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The rockfisher
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Posted - 2009.07.16 15:52:00 -
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Hey all;
I'm rather a newb still on terms of fittings for pvp.
Firstly I need a cabable ship of solo pvping frigs as well as larger things up to battle cruiser size. So which ship would be best for this the Raven or the Rokh, and what fitting would be cabable of this?
Thanks
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Dracoknight
Griefers Anonymous Reality Unwoven
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Posted - 2009.07.16 15:58:00 -
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To be honest, i wouldnt use ANY Battleship solo, and Caldari is pure support ships these days.
You might preferder to use smaller ships instead. ____________________
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Fobiah
Altruism. Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.16 15:58:00 -
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You have a lot to learn Padowan. Battleships are not going to do a good job killing frigs.
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Devine Winds
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Devine Winds on 16/07/2009 16:03:20 agree with the above two posters. Battleships are no longer viable for solo pvp, and have been that way for a while now. Unfortunately you can not always assume that the biggest ship will kill all ship classes below it, and when you include specialized ships (eve wiki the heavy assault ship class) the hierarchy becomes even more convoluted.
with that said, I would pick that ship that I had more skill points trained for and want to use for a long time. The raven is the BS for the missile slinger class line kestrel/caracal/drake/raven
and the rokh is the battleship for the gun line merlin/moa/ferox/rokh.
Most people go with missiles
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Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:05:00 -
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The rockfisher
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:11:00 -
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Hmm okay thanks.
Well what would you reccomend for a drake fitting in order to do the above (What I posted)
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Devine Winds
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:22:00 -
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i would recommend the search function.
or
www.battleclinic.com > eve online > loadouts > drake
to get you started
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The rockfisher
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:27:00 -
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I must be blind or something but I can't find any ones that are reccomended for solo pvp? against frig -> Cruiser sized ships. (Mainly because this is what I will be against)
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:29:00 -
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in the case of cruiser and frig sized ships, a full wrack of Assault missile launchers can be devastating. and it may leave room for even more buffer or resist on mids. ________________________________________________
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Will Strafe
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: Will Strafe on 16/07/2009 17:05:04 On a Battleship you need a capacitor neutralizer and some small scout drones tech II, like warrior II's. That's a dead frig right there. For cruisers prolly the same, going medium drones and maybe one more cap neutralizer.
A setup like this also allows you to fill heavy weapons in your highslots, making you able to deal with bigger ships also.
Using neutralizers means you will need a cap injector in the mid slot, and be most effective if you train up the skills strengthening this module.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:03:00 -
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I hear AML caracal is pretty good V frigs be it t2/t1, maybe you could look into that.
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Cavazos
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: Cavazos on 16/07/2009 17:05:00
Originally by: Dracoknight To be honest, i wouldnt use ANY Battleship solo, and Caldari is pure support ships these days.
You might preferder to use smaller ships instead.
actually my mate always used a raven in 0.0 and i never saw a raven pilot get so many kills. solo and fleeted.
really only BS that can solo somewhat is the megathron, hyperion, armageddon, and abaddon. but if your still a newb to pvp fittings id really recommend a caracal or drake
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Duke Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cavazos Edited by: Cavazos on 16/07/2009 17:05:00
Originally by: Dracoknight To be honest, i wouldnt use ANY Battleship solo, and Caldari is pure support ships these days.
You might preferder to use smaller ships instead.
actually my mate always used a raven in 0.0 and i never saw a raven pilot get so many kills. solo and fleeted.
really only BS that can solo somewhat is the megathron, hyperion, armageddon, and abaddon. but if your still a newb to pvp fittings id really recommend a caracal or drake
You didn't even mention the domi wtf...
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Cavazos
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:30:00 -
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lol my bad i was just thinkin of ships that are somewhat regular and the dominix is used alot yes i forgot slipped my mind sorry master lol
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:53:00 -
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a HAC or T1 BC could better fit that role, both are faster then a BS and they typically have bonuses for weapons systems that hit that wider varity of targets. BC being the best choice as it can take some punches but also doesnt punch the wallet as hard as a HAC will.
or there is a the good ole throw away T1 cruiser, Caracal for example. not much of a tank on it but it can still deliver some pain, oh and out range many frigates even if you use AMLs.
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Cavazos
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker a HAC or T1 BC could better fit that role, both are faster then a BS and they typically have bonuses for weapons systems that hit that wider varity of targets. BC being the best choice as it can take some punches but also doesnt punch the wallet as hard as a HAC will.
or there is a the good ole throw away T1 cruiser, Caracal for example. not much of a tank on it but it can still deliver some pain, oh and out range many frigates even if you use AMLs.
yup. honestly the rokh isa sniper pwnmobile everyone knows that or it can be a blaster boat but ehhh 1k dps doesnt satisfy me lol. and the raven is a good POS basher
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.16 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cavazos
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker a HAC or T1 BC could better fit that role, both are faster then a BS and they typically have bonuses for weapons systems that hit that wider varity of targets. BC being the best choice as it can take some punches but also doesnt punch the wallet as hard as a HAC will.
or there is a the good ole throw away T1 cruiser, Caracal for example. not much of a tank on it but it can still deliver some pain, oh and out range many frigates even if you use AMLs.
yup. honestly the rokh isa sniper pwnmobile everyone knows that or it can be a blaster boat but ehhh 1k dps doesnt satisfy me lol. and the raven is a good POS basher
If anything I'd fly pvp gangs in it just because of how awesome they look and feel to fly. Rokh is definately the fleet ship. ________________________________________________
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Ishoderan
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Posted - 2009.07.16 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Enden Assulu I hear AML caracal is pretty good V frigs be it t2/t1, maybe you could look into that.
this.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.07.16 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Starbuckington
Originally by: Cavazos Edited by: Cavazos on 16/07/2009 17:05:00
Originally by: Dracoknight Stuff/quote]
You didn't even mention the domi wtf...
this, the Domi is probably one of the only, if not the only battle ship to be able to solo
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Tagami Wasp
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Posted - 2009.07.16 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 16/07/2009 19:31:06 Caldari frig hunter? Caracal with Assault Launchers and 2x BCS II. Add MWD, Scramble and web , tada!!! You can even put buffer tank on it. If you fell rich, rig it for missile ROF, speed and damage. :)
[Caracal, Frig hunter] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Bay Loading Accelerator I Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Warrior II x2
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Gromik
Mining Bytes Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cavazos
yup. honestly the rokh isa sniper pwnmobile everyone knows that or it can be a blaster boat but ehhh 1k dps doesnt satisfy me lol. and the raven is a good POS basher
1K dps doesn't satisfy you? 1K dps and 1K tank (non-0.0) is pretty good for any BS. Granted you can get a Hype to a ludicrous dps number, but 1K turret dps is great- better than the Maelstrom w/RF EMP and about the same as an Abaddon. What, pray tell, else is needed to satisfy you? Glowing neon spinners?
And on topic- HAM Drake, Assault launcher Caracal, Blasterox (it's cheap for a 4-500 dps/tank). BS do not solo well these days.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.16 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tagami Wasp Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 16/07/2009 19:31:06 Caldari frig hunter? Caracal with Assault Launchers and 2x BCS II. Add MWD, Scramble and web , tada!!! You can even put buffer tank on it. If you fell rich, rig it for missile ROF, speed and damage. :)
[Caracal, Frig hunter] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Bay Loading Accelerator I Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Warrior II x2
doing the math, yea not a bad fit. the YT8 MWD can be expensive but out the door you are still cheaper then the T2 frigate you are likely to shred.
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The Tzar
Malicious Intentions Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.07.16 22:21:00 -
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[Raven, frig killa] Large Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Ballistic Control System II
Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Target Painter II Target Painter II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Precision Cruise Missile Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Warhead Flare Catalyst I Warhead Flare Catalyst I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Warrior II x5
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.07.16 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tagami Wasp [Caracal, Frig hunter] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Bay Loading Accelerator I Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Warrior II x2
Use disruptor not scrambler. Use Rigour not Flare.
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Scarlett Sky
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Posted - 2009.07.17 03:38:00 -
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torp Golem w/ 17 target painters.
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Corrock
Minmatar SUBLIME L.L.C.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 03:39:00 -
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You could also find a bs you can fully insure, and put some named large smartbombs in the highs, some kind of shield buffer, and a bunch of warp core stabs in the lows. Add a mwd for those "oh, crap!" gatecamp moments, and sit on gates waiting for frigs to gank.
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Cavazos
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gromik
Originally by: Cavazos
yup. honestly the rokh isa sniper pwnmobile everyone knows that or it can be a blaster boat but ehhh 1k dps doesnt satisfy me lol. and the raven is a good POS basher
1K dps doesn't satisfy you? 1K dps and 1K tank (non-0.0) is pretty good for any BS. Granted you can get a Hype to a ludicrous dps number, but 1K turret dps is great- better than the Maelstrom w/RF EMP and about the same as an Abaddon. What, pray tell, else is needed to satisfy you? Glowing neon spinners?
And on topic- HAM Drake, Assault launcher Caracal, Blasterox (it's cheap for a 4-500 dps/tank). BS do not solo well these days.
just being sarcastic 1k dps is very nice lol
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2009.07.17 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Millith on 17/07/2009 04:54:35 Edited by: Shade Millith on 17/07/2009 04:53:18 I have seen some loons in Raven's soloing in 0.0.
And tearing the **** outta most things from Inties, HAC's CS's to other BS's. When fit for PVP it can be a nasty ship. Might not be the best or even second best, but it'll still do the job.
However, like people have said, for a good Caldari solo, you have VERY good options like the Drake (HML and HAM are both viable), and Caracal (AML's will demolish any frig/destroyer. T1 or T2)
Or you could go with a Griffin (As unlikely as may seem) as a surprise buttsex on inties - [Griffin, Shade Millith's Griffin] Signal Distortion Amplifier I
1MN Afterburner I Warp Scrambler I ECM - Multispectral Jammer I ECM - Multispectral Jammer I
Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Rocket Launcher I, Foxfire Rocket Rocket Launcher I, Foxfire Rocket
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin I x1
Overload both Multispecs, and the weapons. With my skills, its about 68% chance to jam an Intercepter. That's using T1, as be prepared to loose the thing quite often. Very fun, VERY cheap, and effective ship against it's specific target.
If he gets scrammed, and you can get two jam cycles on him, he's pretty much dead --------------------------------------------
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.17 07:40:00 -
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Only Domi really got any means to solo.
I have seen a few decent gate hugging rokhs as well, but its mainly a fleet ship :)
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Cavazos
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Only Domi really got any means to solo.
I have seen a few decent gate hugging rokhs as well, but its mainly a fleet ship :)
theres more then just the domi thats a good solo ship. raven and mega are good solo. abaddon and maybe a geddon are aswell. the maelstrom is a very good solo ship aswell if fitted right
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