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tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.23 00:55:00 -
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Seems like any patch beginning with IN should be avoided at CCCP.
Either that or they are back to their good (?) old method of not giving a F... as to what other people (ie. their PAYING subscribers) say.
You can guess I give you that freedom, not unlike with this new "expansion" that is more like a patch than an actual release from where I see it.
So let us grind through the fabulous FEATURES again, shall we?
1: missiles
Looks awesome and it's a petty that my rig can't handle it properly so no 60FPS for me I guess... must be running an old PC, I know I am so last year...
2: Graphics update
Did you run out of GOLD for the Amarr, or is that the Minmatar lobby was too strong in your midst? Right now Amarr ships look dark and darker. No golden hulls for me. Silly me, I expected something shiny. Or is it the dark grim future that you are literally painting us in advance?
3: War declaration
I haven't been in a war dec for some time now. And while I applaud the chance on the terms that fleeing a war is just ... meh, I do feel like that cost-scaling will only hurt small corps running a business.
4: Kill reports
Cool, we had that for years, it's called eve killboards. There are at least a 100-300 (thousand) of them lying around on the net, programmed by third parties FOR FREE.
5: Mercenary marketplace
Not sure it was what we really needed. (Bounty system anyone? I could give you advice on that for free!)
6: Factional Warfare
I am sure as hell no one really needed THIS change. Altering FW - good, doing so on your own terms - bad. Every player comment I have read is negative towards stations changing hands every other day.
7: Modules
Stuff that is not really necessary. I wonder how many Bhaalgorns will have to die to bring you this message...
8: Character creator
16 new skin tones, cool... a: I have already made my decision ; b: where is WiS so that I can groove with the other players "oh you used skin shade #15... you are so cheap!" ; c: don't care because I am using station view most times.
9: Unified inventory
Almost every player cried on the test forums who tried it. STILL you added this feature. The only decent thing you COULD have done would have been to add a ticker at the settings: Do you want new shiny thingy? Yes/No. If yes then "you bought it, you broke it" if no then back to the old one. You added this option to the Walk In SmallSpaceAppartmentWithaBalcony thing, you know... Now where did I leave my large ammo for the gun?
10: Incursions
Ripard Teg has a nice blog post about your fabulous Incursion revamp. Pretty much neutered the whole incursion stuff from where I can see.
11: Effects Bar
Nice, although I really miss the option to lock up the whole bloody group by one click.
12: Opportunities
What? Where? Mining? Don't be kidding me! You did not boosted mining, you negated other incomes. That is a BIG difference! And not a feature. I know Apple tried to sell the copypaste ... again ... but you could have guessed where this will lead: a bad taste in the mouth of most people (Datecores, anyone?)
13: more UI stuff
Good, pitty it cannot add stuff properly together.
ps: I still do NOT make 100m ISK / h in high. Not with Incursions, not with mining and sure as hell not with running missions!
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |
NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:05:00 -
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Wall of text of pure tears, not many replies to this thread ey?
This will be my last..
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
143
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:07:00 -
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What a fine and balanced review you have given to this expansion. Everything in it is wrong, you are right about everything. So everyone go home and OP will design the game from now on. |
tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:09:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Wall of text of pure tears, not many replies to this thread ey?
This will be my last..
I had to write it. Otherwise it would have been unheard...
I used to have a door that wouldn't open
Then I got an un-closable window to the UI...
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |
Derrick Munroe
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:11:00 -
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tl;dr
tasman devil wrote:None of the improvements affect me and therefore CCP has literally created Incarna 2.0, we should all unsub in protest!
Oh, and the unified inventory is awesome. |
tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:14:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:What a fine and balanced review you have given to this expansion. Everything in it is wrong, you are right about everything. So everyone go home and OP will design the game from now on.
Neh, Effects bar is cool. I would be happier it it received more luv prior to release
Same with wardec: abandoning ship prohibited - good, raising money on the basis of corp membership count - bad.
And again by FW: altering FW - good, making stations change on a quick pace -bad
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |
tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:15:00 -
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Derrick Munroe wrote:tl;dr tasman devil wrote:None of the improvements affect me and therefore CCP has literally created Incarna 2.0, we should all unsub in protest! Oh, and the unified inventory is awesome.
tl;dr
you do not understand any of it...
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |
Degren
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
354
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:31:00 -
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Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades.
:) |
tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:00:00 -
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Degren wrote:Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades.
This is what CCP does too. Every. Friggin. Time.
Then after 2 months in seclusion, they come back a behave like the rage never happened... 
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |
Keno Skir
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:13:00 -
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I actually read it all, was not worth my time.
OP, the bounty system has NEVER worked. Fix this and all your other points before i bother to read your work again :D
The Apostle : I want a kangeroo
Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians
Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US?
Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
Persona Non Gratis
60
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:27:00 -
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This is an impressive amount of gripe. I suggest chilling out and going outside
"Fools! I'll show them all!"
What do you mean that one's already taken? |
knulla
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:30:00 -
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Quote:I don't make 100 million ISK per hour in highsec, WAAAAAA, WAAAA, CCP SUCKS!!!
You should try out WoW, bye. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
759
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:34:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:Degren wrote:Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades. This is what CCP does too. Every. Friggin. Time. Then after 2 months in seclusion, they come back a behave like the rage never happened...
No, because the rage is always ridiculous and caused by self-entitled people who can't handle changes, and most people just keep enjoying EVE.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Andemnon Kohort
Protagonists Of Doom
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:35:00 -
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knulla wrote:Quote:I don't make 100 million ISK per hour in highsec, WAAAAAA, WAAAA, CCP SUCKS!!! You should try out WoW, bye.
as your the very definition of a WOW reject, its something you should be more than familiar with Knulla..
all you do is troll the forums with your alt insulting people.. maybe you were kicked out of WoW too...
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Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
760
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:37:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:9: Unified inventory Almost every player cried on the test forums who tried it. STILL you added this feature. The only decent thing you COULD have done would have been to add a ticker at the settings: Do you want new shiny thingy? Yes/No. If yes then "you bought it, you broke it" if no then back to the old one. You added this option to the Walk In SmallSpaceAppartmentWithaBalcony thing, you know... Now where did I leave my large ammo for the gun?
Oh 
I can give you a hint- the ammo is not in your Ship Maintenance Array.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
245
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:37:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:7: Modules
Stuff that is not really necessary. I wonder how many Bhaalgorns will have to die to bring you this message...
Please explain.
If you're in a player corp then war-dec is just something you have to accept is coming with it, regardless of your play-style. ~CCP |
impli
Tr0pa de elite.
Against ALL Authorities
9
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:42:00 -
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OP, wall of text stupid tears .. just go out and cry wherever .. Inferno is a good patch it needs to be adjusted a little bit more.
So CCP please close the Mimimimimi threat |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
671
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:45:00 -
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Unified inventory is good
I just gotta go fast! |
Zenos Ebeth
An Eye For An Eye
AN EYE F0R AN EYE
14
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:02:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:tasman devil wrote:7: Modules
Stuff that is not really necessary. I wonder how many Bhaalgorns will have to die to bring you this message...
Please explain.
Pretty shure he is talking about cap batteries having a chance of reflecting cap neuting back at you.
As for the other mods , their concept is interesting , but need a slight buff to be worthwhile.
Also people need to stop whining about everything , i've seen it all from "inventory sucks" to "amarr v3 sucks" when are we getting a "expansion screen sucks" whine post ? |
knulla
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:04:00 -
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Andemnon Kohort wrote:knulla wrote:Quote:I don't make 100 million ISK per hour in highsec, WAAAAAA, WAAAA, CCP SUCKS!!! You should try out WoW, bye. as your the very definition of a WOW reject, its something you should be more than familiar with Knulla.. all you do is troll the forums with your alt insulting people.. maybe you were kicked out of WoW too...
WOW reject?  WoW Is all inclusive, that is why I think the OP and you will love it over there, EVE is not an easy game, you see yet fail to understand
Also, I do not troll these forums, you just label me as such because you fail at life. |
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Tri Yson
New Horizon Enterprises
Beyond All Bounds
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:07:00 -
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Now in STEREO! http://eve-search.com/thread/112201-1/page/1 |
Gul'gotha Derv'ash
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC.
Li3 Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:11:00 -
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Roime wrote:tasman devil wrote:Degren wrote:Guess I'm staying away from GD for a few weeks, til all this badrage fades. This is what CCP does too. Every. Friggin. Time. Then after 2 months in seclusion, they come back a behave like the rage never happened... No, because the rage is always ridiculous and caused by self-entitled people who can't handle changes, and most people just keep enjoying EVE.
The problem a majority of the people have with this expansion isn't with change. It is the changes that were made even though almost everyone on Test said it was a terrible idea, pointed out bugs, glitches, etc, and were basically completely ignored.
CCP touts itself as a company that listens to its player base, but after each expansion it is clear that they are moving in a direction that really doesn't take into account anything the player base says. They only listen to what the CSM says, and we all know they have been pushing their own agenda for years. |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1118
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:12:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:I derped my pants
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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:16:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:I had to write it. Otherwise it would have been unheard...
Some things (and people) are best left that way... |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
762
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:20:00 -
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@ Gul'gotha Derv'ash
CCP actually listens to the player base, Crucible is one evidence of their ability to change direction that pleases their customers. CSM also played a role in this. Ship balancing ideas are discussed and changed according to player feedback, see AFs, titans, rig changes for examples.
CCP also runs periodical surveys to gather direct player feedback.
Inventory seems to have been rushed live with some bugs and unfinished details, but this is rather typical for software releases. I'm confident they will iron the quirks out soon enough, for me personally it has already decreased the hassle and time I spend in the inventory.
Unfortunately I don't consume the amounts of tinfoil required to believe in any CSM conspiracy theories.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:01:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:I actually read it all, was not worth my time.
OP, the bounty system has NEVER worked. Fix this and all your other points before i bother to read your work again :D
Yeah it never worked, I am kinda sad because of that. I always wanted to be a bounty hunter, or Batman... Now I can only be Batman, always be Batman... 8)
Oh! Dear Lord!
St Mio wrote:tasman devil wrote:I had to write it. Otherwise it would have been unheard... Some things (and people) are best left that way...
Thank you dear Sir, info assimilated.
Roime wrote:@ Gul'gotha Derv'ash
CCP actually listens to the player base, Crucible is one evidence of their ability to change direction that pleases their customers. CSM also played a role in this. Ship balancing ideas are discussed and changed according to player feedback, see AFs, titans, rig changes for examples.
CCP also runs periodical surveys to gather direct player feedback.
Inventory seems to have been rushed live with some bugs and unfinished details, but this is rather typical for software releases. I'm confident they will iron the quirks out soon enough, for me personally it has already decreased the hassle and time I spend in the inventory.
Unfortunately I don't consume the amounts of tinfoil required to believe in any CSM conspiracy theories.
My main concern is that I do not see the "improvements" CCP said they have done.
They said they will listen to the player base (which they did in the Crucible expansion - no point in arguing about it). And would have only needed to continue down that road. Now I see the EVE GD full of whine threads and mine is relatively modest compared to others. And this could have been averted if some people in the development department weren't so keen on pressing a release date (or a feature change) by (and through) all means.
ps. I filled out every survey they sent with the newsletters...
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |
Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group
Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:35:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:
My main concern is that I do not see the "improvements" CCP said they have done.
They said they will listen to the player base (which they did in the Crucible expansion - no point in arguing about it). And would have only needed to continue down that road. Now I see the EVE GD full of whine threads and mine is relatively modest compared to others. And this could have been averted if some people in the development department weren't so keen on pressing a release date (or a feature change) by (and through) all means.
ps. I filled out every survey they've sent with the newsletters...
this, so much this. These game of drones guys need to find other employment |
Alias Hentrah
Knightmares of Torments
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:09:00 -
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tasman devil wrote:
1: missiles
Looks awesome and it's a petty that my rig can't handle it properly so no 60FPS for me I guess... must be running an old PC, I know I am so last year...
I don't know why,
but I can't see them fly!
Even with rhyme,
it's suck big time.
@knulla:
If you liked the game where Kung-fu Pandas will be released in such hasty ways as CCP does it's releases (ie.: bugged as hell), I'd suggest, to pack your **** and get back to it. Less idiots would remain. kktybb |
Commandante Caldari
Dark-Rising
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:34:00 -
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My theory is:
People with a healthy social life will simply enjoy EVE and a good bunch of international people on TS.
P.S.: I am out into a sunny warm summer day to pick up my son from kindergarten and looking forward to a big smile when he sees me "hitting the out of office gate". |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
67
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:40:00 -
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I think I've learned a new synonym for the word stupid.
"tasman devil", is a lack of intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense.
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
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