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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.11.02 13:17:00 -
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Lavebio wrote:This message was posted on behalf of Trinova and written by Phjil, the CEO of Unleashed' Fury.
I, Phjil, hereby apologise for the wrongful agression some of us, including myself, have shown towards the people of Star Fraction in the general loop area. We did not intend to provoke or antagonise anyone.
Trinova has changed its engagement policy concerning SF and will no longer attack its members once the war is over.
We would also like to thank SF for this opportunity to resolve things peacefully.
+++ Update on this conflict.
Last night in Ruerrota system a Trinova pilot and registered "diplomat" for your alliance Oneida27 played an active part in the destruction of a pair of our battlecruisers from a group attacking our war-enemies in the Slumlord alliance "malum exuro". Challenged on the deed on local comms Oneida27 affirmed his personal intention to fire on anyone who was fighting malum exuro regardless of previous settlements and agreements.
As a result with immediate effect Trinova alliance is returned to -10 standings and status of sanctioned war will again soon be rejoined.
We consider this a full and blatent breach of surrender terms and future negotiations will be on hold while the hot war in space is concluded.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Graelyn
Wolfsbrigade
63
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:32:00 -
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Good ol Jade.
When proven wrong, she will never fail to double down.
*shakes head and disconnects* + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit"
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
110
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Posted - 2011.11.03 01:32:00 -
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There's been a recent spate of threads regarding surrender to the Star Fraction alliance, and while I'm sure someone will disregard my two-isk's worth of opinion as "meaningless" because it disagrees with them, I'll exercise my right to voice it anyway.
I personally don't see the gain in public surrender, it offers little more to civil dispute than to feed the ego of the victor. Such matters were created, discussed, acted upon and negotated behind closed doors. Private affairs should not suddenly be thrust into a public spotlight, as it shows little more to this unaffiliated public eye than "Oh look, another SF ego inflation post from some poor bastards they beat around."
if the entire relationship and creation of this conflict were public, I would understand a public endng. As this was private I see little realistic gain outside of self gratification in it's ending. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
739
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:10:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:There's been a recent spate of threads regarding surrender to the Star Fraction alliance, and while I'm sure someone will disregard my two-isk's worth of opinion as "meaningless" because it disagrees with them, I'll exercise my right to voice it anyway.
I personally don't see the gain in public surrender, it offers little more to civil dispute than to feed the ego of the victor. Such matters were created, discussed, acted upon and negotated behind closed doors. Private affairs should not suddenly be thrust into a public spotlight, as it shows little more to this unaffiliated public eye than "Oh look, another SF ego inflation post from some poor bastards they beat around."
if the entire relationship and creation of this conflict were public, I would understand a public endng. As this was private I see little realistic gain outside of self gratification in it's ending.
Why does an organization make a thread about a new campaign? The production of a capital ship? The adoption of new logo? The beginning of a new initiative? The change of focus? Why does the summit find use for any of these things? It is about publicising a cause pure and simple. For many the cause is profit, for others the cause is simply organizational pride or ego? For us the cause is Radical FreeSpace and our belief that pilots of New Eden should assert their rights and power to travel and conduct business where they please and not bow down to the threats of road-blockers, slumlords and territorial imperialists.
When an NBSI pirate chooses to fire on a neutral starship in open space on the premise the interloper is "invading" their sovereignity that is not a "private" act. It is an act of violence that involves hundreds if not thousands of crewmen and women and may by direct consequence embroil hundreds of thousands more in conflict in the days and weeks to come.
The ending of such disputes (for the Star Fraction) is also not a private act. We see the ideological value in aggressors making apology for the NBSI tendencies and road-blocker practises that led them to hard places and consider such words full and appropriate examples of propaganda of the deed.
Your opinion is noted Caellach Marellus. But you will grant me leave to disagree.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
24
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Posted - 2011.11.03 11:33:00 -
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Thank you keeping the public record updated Madame Constantine, and best of wishes in renewed hostilities. Amir al-Mu'minin of the Seekers of a Silent Paradise and Sr. Banker of EVE Online Hold'Em |
Kei Masuda
Les Enfants de Gaia
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 12:23:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:Good ol Jade.
When proven wrong, she will never fail to double down.
*shakes head and disconnects*
Out of interest: what is she wrong about this time?
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
110
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Posted - 2011.11.03 13:01:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Your opinion is noted Caellach Marellus. But you will grant me leave to disagree.
As is your right to Captain, this is a situation where it's best to agree to disagree.
But thank you for the response. |
Mordus Sith
Kickurass Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.11.04 12:56:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:There's been a recent spate of threads regarding surrender to the Star Fraction alliance, and while I'm sure someone will disregard my two-isk's worth of opinion as "meaningless" because it disagrees with them, I'll exercise my right to voice it anyway.
I personally don't see the gain in public surrender, it offers little more to civil dispute than to feed the ego of the victor. Such matters were created, discussed, acted upon and negotated behind closed doors. Private affairs should not suddenly be thrust into a public spotlight, as it shows little more to this unaffiliated public eye than "Oh look, another SF ego inflation post from some poor bastards they beat around."
if the entire relationship and creation of this conflict were public, I would understand a public endng. As this was private I see little realistic gain outside of self gratification in it's ending. Why does an organization make a thread about a new campaign? The production of a capital ship? The adoption of new logo? The beginning of a new initiative? The change of focus? Why does the summit find use for any of these things? It is about publicising a cause pure and simple. For many the cause is profit, for others the cause is simply organizational pride or ego? For us the cause is Radical FreeSpace and our belief that pilots of New Eden should assert their rights and power to travel and conduct business where they please and not bow down to the threats of road-blockers, slumlords and territorial imperialists. When an NBSI pirate chooses to fire on a neutral starship in open space on the premise the interloper is "invading" their sovereignity that is not a "private" act. It is an act of violence that involves hundreds if not thousands of crewmen and women and may by direct consequence embroil hundreds of thousands more in conflict in the days and weeks to come. The ending of such disputes (for the Star Fraction) is also not a private act. We see the ideological value in aggressors making apology for the NBSI tendencies and road-blocker practises that led them to hard places and consider such words full and appropriate examples of propaganda of the deed. Your opinion is noted Caellach Marellus. But you will grant me leave to disagree.
as a matter of interest, how the hell can a 40 man micro alliance control an area covering 7 systems, much less prevent corps from anchoring towers if they wish? |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
752
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Posted - 2011.11.04 13:33:00 -
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Mordus Sith wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:There's been a recent spate of threads regarding surrender to the Star Fraction alliance, and while I'm sure someone will disregard my two-isk's worth of opinion as "meaningless" because it disagrees with them, I'll exercise my right to voice it anyway.
I personally don't see the gain in public surrender, it offers little more to civil dispute than to feed the ego of the victor. Such matters were created, discussed, acted upon and negotated behind closed doors. Private affairs should not suddenly be thrust into a public spotlight, as it shows little more to this unaffiliated public eye than "Oh look, another SF ego inflation post from some poor bastards they beat around."
if the entire relationship and creation of this conflict were public, I would understand a public endng. As this was private I see little realistic gain outside of self gratification in it's ending. Why does an organization make a thread about a new campaign? The production of a capital ship? The adoption of new logo? The beginning of a new initiative? The change of focus? Why does the summit find use for any of these things? It is about publicising a cause pure and simple. For many the cause is profit, for others the cause is simply organizational pride or ego? For us the cause is Radical FreeSpace and our belief that pilots of New Eden should assert their rights and power to travel and conduct business where they please and not bow down to the threats of road-blockers, slumlords and territorial imperialists. When an NBSI pirate chooses to fire on a neutral starship in open space on the premise the interloper is "invading" their sovereignity that is not a "private" act. It is an act of violence that involves hundreds if not thousands of crewmen and women and may by direct consequence embroil hundreds of thousands more in conflict in the days and weeks to come. The ending of such disputes (for the Star Fraction) is also not a private act. We see the ideological value in aggressors making apology for the NBSI tendencies and road-blocker practises that led them to hard places and consider such words full and appropriate examples of propaganda of the deed. Your opinion is noted Caellach Marellus. But you will grant me leave to disagree. as a matter of interest, how the hell can a 40 man micro alliance control an area covering 7 systems, much less prevent corps from anchoring towers if they wish?
Fear and intimidation mainly.
From what we hear from the locals Malum Exuro generally threaten anybody seeking to establish towers/conduct business in the loops with their often unspecified "big friends" ((the ones with super capital fleets and bad attitudes apparently)).
Ironically they even had some dodgy information minister style identities send threatening Eve mails to me about the kind of "trouble" we'd be in if we went after Malum. Fairly obviously they didn't know much about the Star Fraction!
But yes, mainly its bluff. I imagine to a small industrial corp just setting out in Eve it might be a bit terrifying to have Malum threatening to bring down the fires of wrath on their tower if they settle the loops and perhaps this kind of outfit might consider paying a few hundred million isk a month for "protection and peace of mind" could seem a good deal.
But the reality is Malum is a paper tiger full of cowards unwilling to fight beyond the docking range of their station and carrier reps. Their junior client partner Trinvoa is about 1000x more courageous and its ironic in the extreme that the ice-miners and junionr mission runners of Trinova have tried harder in two days than Malum have in months.
At the end of things - its clear Malum Exuro is a fat lazy slumlord alliance that makes its way in New Eden trying to threaten payment out of small industrial outfits and up to this point has been relatively successful in the bluff.
Then one day they fired on a pilot from the Star Fraction.
History is now being written.
And when Malum is gone the "loops" will be free for anybody to make use of without all this slum-landlord nonsense.
+++ Addition.
Just to demonstrate how completely full of hot air and meaningless bluster Malum is we've taken the opportunity to put up a tower of our own (Planet IV Moon 10) "Stone Canal" in their HQ system and we'll be placing our lovely propaganda cans all over their claims in the days to come.
If Malum's "big friends" don't materialize to tear it down then I think we can all see the value of their threats in the future.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Mzr
Session9 Malum Exuro
0
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Posted - 2011.11.06 11:50:00 -
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This is gonna be the first and last response from us. Just setting a few things straight and be on my merry. Propaganda, lies and self-gratifing posts are really not our cup of tea.
Jade here obviously has a lot of free time to spew RP vomit and misinformation - that's something we can't compete with - we're pretty much normal people. I discovered this section only some days ago and I'm pretty much shocked how much dribble he can post. Coupled with the hours you pull in-game, I'm curious if you have any other activies outside this video game like.. you know a job, school, family, friends?
We threaten anyone who establishes towers? Really? And little birds `speak to you` giving you intel? I guess you haven't seen the plethora of towers anchored around that were here for months before you got to this area. Or the various people coming in doing whatever they want from plexes, to sites, to WHs. Let alone the fact that we're not online 23/7, so please cut the bullshit. Or as Mordus put it - 40-man alliance controlling everything (who does what, POSes, etc.)?? - yes please share that pipe u're smoking, don't keep everything for yourself, seems to be good.
In reality all what you're doing is manufacture war reasons from your RP ideoloy to actually grief and strongarm smaller entities - be it less numbers or lower quality pilots. Targets are probably carefully selected so they don't have the means to fight the ever-increasing SF blob - I don't see you deccing Snuffs, BYDI, Unicorns, etc. - they `terrorize` lowsec plenty and/or intersect with your `wonderful` RP ideology. You're nothing but a bully with a lot of propaganda in the RP section. And this time it's us drawing the short stick.
-- Nobody we know sent any mails to you. Made-up lie.
-- We're paper tiger alliance full of cowards? Prolly, if you say it - it must be true. But this outfit engaged your fleets plenty for more than a month when u brought decent numbers.
Now this war pases 2 months (longest war we've ever been in) and you got so butthurt from the loses, that the ONLY way for you was to bring in more and more people. I'm sorry if I'm not suiciding some random 6-man fleet into yours 13-20. But even then we still gave you fights (others wouldn't) and got some kills.
As for figthing decent odds, one acquaintance put it best `Trying to get SF to fight is like trying to pull teeth`. Shall I remember what happens when you guys don't have enough people to impose your `ideology`? Flying much falcons and bombers and idling for hours till DT hits? Declining duels with stupid/******** reasons? Titan-bridging 10 lousy drakes onto BC duels because your guy was losing (yea it wasn't an agreed duel, but still BRIDGE 10 people for a lousy BC kill?? Guess you HAD to save face).
-- History is being written? Really? You do understand it's NPC space? People can't be forced to move unless they want to. And because it's Placid (empire), anyone in highsec/lowsec/Syndicate can come around. If I'm based out of Alentene means I've moved?
-- If we have friends or not and if they're gonna come to help or not it's completely our business. Trying to goat us to engage some deathstar you put up only shows your 12y old ******** logic. Please burn more fuel, I guess you have to wait and see if/when we're giving you a taste of your own medicine (ie. blob people then feel important about it).
-- It seem the smaller/weaker your opponent is the more zealous you get. Typical bully attitude.
As for TRINOVA (our indy friends), they made their decision to shoot you again on their own. Shocker right? Whatever deals/businesses we had/have with them is really none of your concern. Ironically it seems we're treating them infinitely better than what you did since they decided they can't stand your bullshit anymore and shoot you again. I guess you won, now there's a truckload of nubs and bears to be killed - time to beat that SF chest.
Engagements stopped being funny a long time ago, now it's all about the blob, trolls in local, drakes and long self-gratifying propaganda in the RP section.
-- I'm gonna stop here, no need to write more. A lot of people actually know very well who you are and what you did in these last 8 years (heard quite some gems about SF when u lot were living in amarr/CVA space back in the day).
If Eve now means griefing small entities for months, then I'm clearly playing the wrong game.
o/ |
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
755
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Posted - 2011.11.06 12:28:00 -
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Well pilot Mzr, there are clearly many issues we will continue to disagree on but I will start by clarifying the situation once again.
Star Fraction became involved in GÇ£the loopsGÇ¥ because our pilots were attacked. Our ideology holds that the best response to incoming aggression from a regressive entity is to reply in strength and pay back the violence to the measure appropriate.
In this case we discovered a tale of economic woes with Trinova alliance telling us they were paying to rent the Loops to Malum and as part of the rent agreement they were obliged to shoot at neutral pilots in this area of lowsec to keep the area GÇ£cleanGÇ¥ of strangers. Your alliance (Malum) were therefore painted as GÇ£slumlordsGÇ¥ who not only charged for GÇ£accessGÇ¥ to FreeSpace but attempted to oblige your clients to adopt NBSI methodologies to literally do your dirty work for you.
Now perhaps you are telling us that Trinova lied to us? That you never charged them rent? That you never asked them to become NBSI gate-campers? That would at least be a meaningful statement from your lips. We remain curious as to whether this is your assertion.
Or was the fifty lines of angry nothing you posted above simply an attempted smokescreen to disguise the unpalatable truth that we were right about you from the beginning?
Now to the general complaints and wheedling about engagement methods, weGÇÖve quite literally heard it all before. You are an alliance of gate-camping NBSI road-blockers who is entirely happy to drop a half dozen ships on an unwary industrial ship in lowsec and call it GÇ£good fun and gamesGÇ¥ but when you are brought a significant organized threat that takes some skill and courage to confront now you are being GÇ£bullied and blobbedGÇ¥.
Well frankly pilot Mzr that is pathetic.
Whatever happened to live by the sword die by the sword?
Everything you complain about is a tactic of war and let me tell right here and now, if you are annoyed about the things youGÇÖve seen so far you literally havenGÇÖt seen anything yet.
And when I name you an alliance of dock monkey cowards I do so with the assurance of personal experience mind and a single anecdote serves to demonstrate for the audience what we speak of here:
A couple of days ago you might recall I was outside your station trying to provoke a fight from a Rapier with my Daredevil class frigate. You decided to undock an (anti frigate thorax) to even the odds in your favour.
GÇ£FineGÇ¥ (I thought) and immediately attacked. Rapier thought the better of helping and left. Thorax and my Daredevil fought for a minute or so and while his anti frigate guns had impressive tracking he was unable to make the kill due to my onboard armour reps. Fight was clearly going in my favour. So your alliance undocked a Remote Rep Dominix and (I kid you not) a Triage Archon class Carrier to keep your Alliance Thorax alliance from a single seat Daredevil! I shrugged and made range and left your thorax to have its armour repaired.
Now I donGÇÖt tell this anecdote to complain or tear my hair out or curse fate at the ways of war pilot MZR. This is war, these are the kinds of things that happen in war and the audience must decide for itself the value of anyoneGÇÖs words who complains this kind of thing. You alleged the Star Fraction have mercilessly GÇ£blobbedGÇ¥ you, have hot-dropped and falcon-freaked and bomber-spooked, and consistently attacked your station range carrier+battleship group with lighter ships. Fine. We have. And weGÇÖll keep doing it till you die, run-off or you change your approach to neutrality in the loops. You have gained our attention and we think it is in the interest of FreeSpace you be taught a bloody lesson.
So I'll close by highlighting again what an absolute pleasure it remains to be called a "bully" by NBSI road-blocking pirates in Lowsec Placid. I am proud to be "bullying" the kind of people who are happy to themselves bully lone industials and tiny start-ups in the loops. It is high time you had a taste of your own medicine and if you are already growing frustrated over the 2 month duration of this war then let me promise you more to come and I assure you, with every angry word and gum-mashing contradiction you bring against us in public the reality will be sweeter in space.
As for TRINOVA - pilot Oneida made the choice for his organization and his comrades now pay the price while he cowers in the dock range of a station. It is not Pilot Oneida's industrial ships and mining barges that burn every night. It is not Pilot Oneida's blueprint collections and ratting loot that are spilled across the placid stars. It is not Pilot Oneida's courage on display when groups of TRINOVA battlecruisers attempt to attack our single pilots.
No. Pilot Oneida having provoked the resumption of hostilities spends his nights hiding like the dog he is.
So I'll leave you to plan your war strategy pilot MzR.
Perhaps you will reflect on the reversal and irony of the situation that you who once delcared himself the slumlord of lowsec and terrorized any who would not follow your rules and engagement ideologies and killed for sport "because you could" are now reduced to complaining about being "outblobbed" by a dozen drakes and begging for help and sympathy on the Intergalactic summit for all to see.
Frankly its a gift you provide me here wrapped up in soft fabrics and tied with a bow.
A pirate complaining that war in space is not fair.
And for that,
I thank you.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
406
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Posted - 2011.11.07 06:56:00 -
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OOC post removed.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
111
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:51:00 -
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As always, Jade, your war threads are a fascinating read. |
Mordus Sith
Kickurass Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.11.07 16:55:00 -
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There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
762
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Posted - 2011.11.07 18:27:00 -
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double post please remove
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
762
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Posted - 2011.11.07 18:28:00 -
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It is an interesting link and nice to demonstrate again the basis for our casus beli.
Chris Libby wrote:Malum Exuro: We will maintain the deep blue NAP, and continue to pay rent and participate in defense of the Loop. I understand there is some discussion of our poor treatment by Malum, and their lack of support during the initial war with SF. Not having 100% of the information, I am going to attribute this to two things GÇô our general lack of coordination, and Malum not getting 100% of the info. In this particular case, the war was brought about by our defense of the Loop for Malum. I will communicate to Malum that I expect support in any future wars caused by our continued defense of the Loop, and vice versa. We developed this relationship and I feel the only real way to gain allies in this game is to be true to your word. So until they really screw us over, we will maintain our word.
There it is really. Rent to the Malum Slumlords and "defending" a lowsec constellation for an occupying "power".
One thing I'd suggest pilot Libby to address with his Malum overlords is specific defense of Trinova industrial vessels in hisec.
Yesterday this Orca pilot learned a hard lesson on moving his vessel in wartime.
http://www.mordante.aquiss.com/SDorca.jpg
The irony here is that while the vessel was dying (to all of 3 frigates) a combined Malum/Mercenary fleet of 20 battleships was camping a lowsec gate against neutrals a handful of jumps away.
If I was on the "trinova counsel" I'd seriously consider raising this matter as an urgent point of order!
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2742
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Posted - 2011.11.07 19:34:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:One thing I'd suggest pilot Libby to address with his Malum overlords is specific defense of Trinova industrial vessels in hisec. Yesterday this Orca pilot learned a hard lesson on moving his vessel in wartime. http://www.mordante.aquiss.com/SDorca.jpgThe irony here is that while the vessel was dying (to all of 3 frigates) a combined Malum/Mercenary fleet of 20 battleships was camping a lowsec gate against neutrals a handful of jumps away. If I was on the "trinova counsel" I'd seriously consider raising this matter as an urgent point of order!
Hello again, Miss ConstantineGÇöand my fellow New Eden. It's been a small while, ne? I hope you've been well.
I just happened to be skimming this thread again (out of sheer coincidence and certainly not to gloat about your failure to answer certain points of recent history), and I happened upon this gem. Being the helpful member of the community that I am, I thought I would take the time to sit down with you and discuss this matter because it is near and dear to my heart-strings. You seem to be under the impression that whatever entity it is whose pilot recently lost an OrcaGÇöhonestly, I could not be bothered to checkGÇöhas reason to look upon that unhappy event with the same perspective held by the unfortunate pilot. Nothing could be furthest from the truth. In this Dionysian space-librarian in which we find ourselves, "hands off!" is the name of the game. You endorse it yourself with your claims of adoration: "Free Space," alongside cries of "Hey, listen to me!" and, "Gosh, how dare these 'people' with smaller post counts oppose my opinions?" But I digress.
In many if not the vast majority of corporations concerned with something besides being the personal entourage of a self-absorbed B-list spaceship celebrity, the loss of a ship for "stupid reasons" is a subject not of horror or tragedy but of shame or comedy. "Hey guys, did you hear about that idiot who lost an Orca to three frigates? Did you hear that those three frigates were from ~Star Fraction~ of all people? Guffaw! Let us chortle while polishing our monocles, then defenestration that wireless git. Serves him right!" The only loser in that entire debutante is the poor soap whose Oracle was lost. I hope you feel proud of yourself, Mister-and-Missus- Space Crusader!
On a completely unrelated note, have you checked to see if your kill qualifies for the Goonswarm Shrugged payout list?
Warm Regardless |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
762
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:03:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:One thing I'd suggest pilot Libby to address with his Malum overlords is specific defense of Trinova industrial vessels in hisec. Yesterday this Orca pilot learned a hard lesson on moving his vessel in wartime. http://www.mordante.aquiss.com/SDorca.jpgThe irony here is that while the vessel was dying (to all of 3 frigates) a combined Malum/Mercenary fleet of 20 battleships was camping a lowsec gate against neutrals a handful of jumps away. If I was on the "trinova counsel" I'd seriously consider raising this matter as an urgent point of order! Hello again, Miss ConstantineGÇöand my fellow New Eden. It's been a small while, ne? I hope you've been well. I just happened to be skimming this thread again (out of sheer coincidence and certainly not to gloat about your failure to answer certain points of recent history), and I happened upon this gem. Being the helpful member of the community that I am, I thought I would take the time to sit down with you and discuss this matter because it is near and dear to my heart-strings. You seem to be under the impression that whatever entity it is whose pilot recently lost an OrcaGÇöhonestly, I could not be bothered to checkGÇöhas reason to look upon that unhappy event with the same perspective held by the unfortunate pilot. Nothing could be furthest from the truth. In this Dionysian space-librarian in which we find ourselves, "hands off!" is the name of the game. You endorse it yourself with your claims of adoration: "Free Space," alongside cries of "Hey, listen to me!" and, "Gosh, how dare these 'people' with smaller post counts oppose my opinions?" But I digress. In many if not the vast majority of corporations concerned with something besides being the personal entourage of a self-absorbed B-list spaceship celebrity, the loss of a ship for "stupid reasons" is a subject not of horror or tragedy but of shame or comedy. "Hey guys, did you hear about that one guy who lost an Orca to three frigates? Did you hear that those three frigates were from ~Star Fraction~ of all people? Guffaw! Let us chortle while polishing our monocles, then defenestration that wireless git. Serves him right!" The only loser in that entire debutante is the poor soap whose Oracle was lost. I hope you feel proud of yourself, Mister-and-Missus- Space Crusader! On a completely unrelated note, have you checked to see if your kill qualifies for the Goonswarm Shrugged payout list? Warm Regardless
You really are going to have to stop mumbling dear, I couldn't make out the sense of what you were trying to say there. Take a deep breath and try again!
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2744
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:05:00 -
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Most people think it's funny when ships explode due to your actions. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
762
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:09:00 -
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*shrugs* means nothing to me
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2744
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:12:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:*shrugs* means nothing to me Then why did you post about it? |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:16:00 -
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So the rest of us could laugh about it, of course. The Orca pilot was indeed rather stupid. Besides, isn't it your own alliance making sport of killing industrial ships? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2744
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:17:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:So the rest of us could laugh about it, of course. The Orca pilot was indeed rather stupid. Besides, isn't it your own alliance making sport of killing industrial ships? Yes, we are! I am jealous that Miss Constantine beat us to that one. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
762
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:24:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:So the rest of us could laugh about it, of course. The Orca pilot was indeed rather stupid. Besides, isn't it your own alliance making sport of killing industrial ships? Yes, we are! I am jealous that Miss Constantine beat us to that one.
As always the secret is in the delivery.
You can kill a thousand ships without a sense of ideological Panache and it means nothing. After all, its just victims for sport and no deeper meaning whatsoever.
But kill one ship belonging to a lowsec slumlord pet devoted to renting out lowsec to others while its allies wait a few jumps away predating on the weak, and it becomes a revolutionary act of significant propaganda payload.
Understand this Lyris Nairn and you will take a step towards understanding the true knowledge of the Star Fraction.
Its not how many shots you fire but how many land with precise impact.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2744
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:33:00 -
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So is it your testimony that the actions of Goonswarm Federation do not have any ideological meaning?
I am glad to hear that. Please speak up in our name the next time someone presents a conspiracy theory. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
762
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Posted - 2011.11.07 22:22:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:So is it your testimony that the actions of Goonswarm Federation do not have any ideological meaning?
I am glad to hear that. Please speak up in our name the next time someone presents a conspiracy theory.
Its hardly "testimony" merely opinion and I don't really feel obliged to speak up in your organization's name Lyris Nairn regardless. And why would you need me too? Surely you have many thousands of comrades of the goonswarn prepared to do that onerous task already.
Goonswarm are simply bored nullsec aristocrats hunting empire ice-mining peasants from (100% insured) golden chariots as functionaries (such as yourself) keep score and hand out the tea and cakes while making quips about the jolly wheezes that were had.
Is there anything more to be said really?
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2745
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Posted - 2011.11.07 22:29:00 -
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My fiancee thinks you sound fruity; though, I personally envision you as a vegetable. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
764
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Posted - 2011.11.08 10:36:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:My fiancee thinks you sound fruity; though, I personally envision you as a vegetable.
Clearly La belle amour has better taste, but if you wish to project sappho-phallic penetration fantasies on a summit debating partner in the privacy of your own mind who am I to object?
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
764
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Posted - 2011.11.08 11:07:00 -
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Update on Trinova Hostilities
Last night Gallente Heavy Industries decided to leave Trinova alliance without approaching Star Fraction diplomatic comrades to signal their formal surrender.
The following notification is automatically triggered:
Quote: Gallente Heavy Industries surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.07 23:47
The war between Gallente Heavy Industries and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. Gallente Heavy Industries has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
At the moment we are unclear as to whether this is a genuine decision to distance Gallente Heavy Industries from the policies of Trinova and the treaty-breaking activities of pilot Oneida OR simply a cynical war evasion tactic by an entity that intends to continue covert support of Trinova/Malum in the "loops" area.
We invite Gallente Heavy Industries leader Chris Libby to contact us for talks to confirm the status of his organization going forwards.
Pending these discussions we give formal notification that Gallente Heavy Industries will continue to be -10 to the Star Fraction and we may at our preference issue specific wardec against Gallente Heavy Industries at any time of our choosing.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
765
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Posted - 2011.11.08 20:36:00 -
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Well looks like a Trinova implosion tonight ... (or truly staggering scale of wardec evasion)
Unleashed' Fury surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:27
The war between Unleashed' Fury and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. Unleashed' Fury has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Vile Holdings surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:27
The war between Vile Holdings and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. Vile Holdings has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Kokuryuukai surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:28
The war between Kokuryuukai and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. Kokuryuukai has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
The Orion Nebula Federation surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:28
The war between The Orion Nebula Federation and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. The Orion Nebula Federation has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
League of Excellent Gentlemen Upholding Principles surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:28
The war between League of Excellent Gentlemen Upholding Principles and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. League of Excellent Gentlemen Upholding Principles has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Cutting Edge Industries surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:31
The war between Cutting Edge Industries and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. Cutting Edge Industries has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
AcesEndless surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:31
The war between AcesEndless and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. AcesEndless has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Ghost Recon Squad surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:31
The war between Ghost Recon Squad and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. Ghost Recon Squad has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
159th covert Brigade surrenders to The Star Fraction From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.11.08 20:31
The war between 159th covert Brigade and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. 159th covert Brigade has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
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And so much for Trinova alliance.
A would be "sword of placid" destroyed by the arrogance and treaty-breaking of one of their diplomats - pilot Oneida.
But considerably quicker total collapse than we were expecting to be quite honest.
Still, if Trinova are finished and genuinely out of the war then Malum will hopefully be next.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
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