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yunafan2004
Nox Noctis Industrius Novus Dominatum
9
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Posted - 2012.05.29 16:41:00 -
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Gainard wrote:More whine for CCP: 1. If you don't know what to do with your dev time do something about the 10+ clicks to start an invention. At least insert an REPEAT button. 2. Next roll back the unified UI. It simply sucks, I don't see anything about it as positive: Load time - slower, occupied space - increased, ease of use - gone. 3. I want to play this game not click, click, click, click, click, click, etc. (forgot the shift key ) 4. Does anyone at CCP notice there is already 64 pages of complaints (at least 90% of it being complaints). 5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game. 6. What do you guys have SISI for??? Thats it for today's whine. More tomorrow
#1 here is brilliant! as fellow invent and builder this system should have been changes awhile ago...but my concern is after seeing this UI they will make it even more work for us to invent..im not sure how but i think they will find a way to F it up so careful what you ask for...they just might try..... |
Andy DelGardo
Hedion University Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.05.29 16:49:00 -
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yunafan2004 wrote:Gainard wrote:More whine for CCP: 1. If you don't know what to do with your dev time do something about the 10+ clicks to start an invention. At least insert an REPEAT button. 2. Next roll back the unified UI. It simply sucks, I don't see anything about it as positive: Load time - slower, occupied space - increased, ease of use - gone. 3. I want to play this game not click, click, click, click, click, click, etc. (forgot the shift key ) 4. Does anyone at CCP notice there is already 64 pages of complaints (at least 90% of it being complaints). 5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game. 6. What do you guys have SISI for??? Thats it for today's whine. More tomorrow #1 here is brilliant! as fellow invent and builder this system should have been changes awhile ago...but my concern is after seeing this UI they will make it even more work for us to invent..im not sure how but i think they will find a way to F it up so careful what you ask for...they just might try.....
Btw vote "like" for every-time u accidentally hit "destroy stack" instead of "reverse engineer", this happens nearly every day to me. Who thought that putting a "destroy" mechanism near the same entry u hit a couple hundred times a day is a great idea?
Also the whole invention/RE interface is a joke, u basically need like 15 clicks to setup a single job and since the interface wont remember anything u do this like x100 times a day, every few hours for every lab-slot u have. The whole process could be brought down to like 5 clicks if u could select multiple jobs at once, in a "good" interface, but i guess someone thought "hey lets make a mini click game out of this like we did with everything else, this will be fun!". |
vasuul
BLUE M00N Fetish Group Eternus Imperium Alliance
32
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Posted - 2012.05.29 17:38:00 -
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OK supposedly there were changes today ???? really what ????
come on the corp tab will still not stay open on the first go you have to click wait for it to load Slowly then it slams shut and you have to click on it again the scroll thing is flat annoying before it was open location1 open destination drag and drop
now its open , watch it close open again , scroll through file tree find what you are looking for ,select it , scroll back up file to to find your target location , drag it to target location
if you try and move items don't hover a millisecond too long or it flips to that view forcing you to Guess what ?? come on guess ?? Yeah scroll the damn tree again
the file tree is the worst possible system you could come up with forget properly trying to find the right members hangar to drop something in . cause one mis click and oops got to wait for .so-and so to log in so he can get you your stuff .as i accidentally dropped it in his hangar .
this joke has gone far enough unified inventory is as annoying a FAIL as the stupid customs office closing at random when you hit transfer and you still have not fixed it either
Come on CCP me and almost all the previous posters in the thread expect better
ALL WE ASK IS FIX WHAT YOU BROKE there was nothing wrong with the old system most of the people here never complained the old system was an issue before
how about for once you listen to the people that play your game, if you don't know what they are saying already , then put it to a vote if you are worried no one will vote put it on a splash page right before people log in that way you don't miss any active players
If you are too pigheaded or stubborn to see what you players want
then once again "what we have here is a failure to communicate " and this time that failure will be all on you we the players have tried to reach you but some people are just too stubborn and you just can't reach
Don't be one of those CCP
Don't ignore the majority of your customers
It's time you remember its our game too , and we have been together for a long time
every player account that has been here since 2007 has paid over $2,000 so far to be here most active people have 2 or more accounts because we love the game i have 5 myself
please do the right thing
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N3LLY
MUNKI.MINERS.INC
59
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Posted - 2012.05.29 19:19:00 -
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games still broken UI IS CRAP GET RID AS SOON AS POSSIBLE P.S. CAN I GET A REFUND FOR LOST GAME TIME ?
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Cutesmile
Black Sharks Division
14
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Posted - 2012.05.29 19:32:00 -
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N3LLY wrote:CAN I GET A REFUND FOR LOST GAME TIME
good idea, btw... |
Makaganti
University of Caille Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.05.29 20:51:00 -
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Gainard wrote:More whine for CCP: 5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game.
Heads up brain wave ccp don't give a fuk how much time you play eve you pay ccp is happy
"shakes head at the intelligences"
With Unity there is Power |
Makaganti
University of Caille Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.05.29 20:53:00 -
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Cutesmile wrote:N3LLY wrote:CAN I GET A REFUND FOR LOST GAME TIME good idea, btw...
Already petitioned that very question ccp's short answer: get lost With Unity there is Power |
Nemulus
Mercury Inc.
9
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Posted - 2012.05.29 21:02:00 -
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I want a refund on 2 accounts of all game time until inventory system is put back the way 99.99% of EvE liked it. If you want to keep windows file manager then use it on assets not inventory.
Really c'mon CCP I don't see any threads with positive views on this change which in the scheme of things is so minor but upsets so many.
In UK we just had the Pasty tax revoked because of it's stupidity I hope you realise soon how really poorly thought out this change is, not a gaming player who made it or they would have known how much of a royal pain in the a*se it is.
Please put back the old system before you genuinely start losing business.
Nem
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KORAY OKTAVYAN
Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts
5
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Posted - 2012.05.29 21:07:00 -
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WH life and Issues with this new inventory system..
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114552&find=unread
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Pattonator
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
2
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Posted - 2012.05.29 22:07:00 -
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Personally I hate it. I liked the old way and had no problems with the old format.
Now I always have to hit open as a new window so it is an extra step. Sometimes we don't even have the option to open as a new window.
When you try to assemble multiple ships and actually see what is in the cargo hold for each ship it is really cumbersome. Also with a capital you should still be able to directly right click capacitor to select open fuel bay. |
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Zac Solo
CANUCKIAN SALVAGE COMPANY
4
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Posted - 2012.05.29 23:15:00 -
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how do you still have job after this cluster f*** new system? |
Shadow Phaze
THE DRUNK SAILORS Infernal Creations
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 00:15:00 -
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while in space u have to sort out your cargo containers... for some like me i have mine open constantly... when i undock i have to resize it and re position it... this has still not been fixed yet... also while docking... i want my cargo container so stay with me and also show me my items hanger and ship hanger in 2 seperate windows in a tab! this does not happen...
if this has been said then fine but i cba reading 65 pages to see.... |
Hawgr
Sanctum Infinitas
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 01:42:00 -
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Di Mulle wrote:Not sure if a need for a persistent multi-window setups in a certain cases is properly understood and addressed. Need to read once more.
But, renaming all POS structures ? Wow. Impressed.
(Not impressed in any way by the fact why this wasn't done years ago, structures even had an editable name field all the time... but, maybe CCP simply can't work in other way. Needs to screw-up and then produce an unexpected bonus...)
Just try Fleet Mining with one window!! This new system stinks for Orca's, multiple windows are required!!!
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Hawgr
Sanctum Infinitas
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 01:44:00 -
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Zeoraima Celestial wrote:Please, bring the old system back.
I So agree!!!
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.05.30 02:28:00 -
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This sounds like a baby step in the right direction. Why you are not just solving all problems I have no idea.
Here's the real answer to all problems. Bring back the old system. You can if you want leave this new UI as a button on the side in case there is one person in the game who actually likes it.
That way we all get the UI that we want and you CCP devs with your fragile egos don't have to admit that you were wrong and all the development time was a waste.
Seriously stop trying to save face by forcing this thing on us. No on likes it. It's too much of a PITA. People are leaving the game because inventory management has become too cumbersome. Just drop this piece of **** and put the old system back. It was not broke and in trying to fix what was not broke you broke it and now the fix is just to undo what was done.
TLDR; bring the old system back. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.05.30 02:33:00 -
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Nemulus wrote:I
Please put back the old system before you genuinely start losing business.
Nem
Have you seen the logged in numbers lately? I think they already have. |
ROOVALK
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.05.30 04:01:00 -
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can i get a ******* refund on the 10 plex sitting on my account? if not, then CCP, you can go **** yourself lesson learned... moving on |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids Pleasure Syndicate
238
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:26:00 -
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i think CCP is in the wrong business. if they enjoy screwing over their customers they should start a credit card company instead. |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
39
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:05:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Cyriacus Antonius wrote:Will there ever be a way to revert to the old inventory system? I'm not sold on the new one at all, regardless of changes. No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.
Any way to swap the range measurement on POS structures to be based of the tower easily? This flying around crap blows and it's very old. With the primary use of POS's in wormholes POS's have moved far beyond their origional purpose. With this new UI feature, being able to access everything in the POS from a point within 5k of the main tower would be very ideal. |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
39
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:06:00 -
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Nemulus wrote:I want a refund on 2 accounts of all game time until inventory system is put back the way 99.99% of EvE liked it. If you want to keep windows file manager then use it on assets not inventory.
Really c'mon CCP I don't see any threads with positive views on this change which in the scheme of things is so minor but upsets so many.
In UK we just had the Pasty tax revoked because of it's stupidity I hope you realise soon how really poorly thought out this change is, not a gaming player who made it or they would have known how much of a royal pain in the a*se it is.
Please put back the old system before you genuinely start losing business.
Nem
It needs work, but I like it. |
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Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
39
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:07:00 -
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Hawgr wrote:Di Mulle wrote:Not sure if a need for a persistent multi-window setups in a certain cases is properly understood and addressed. Need to read once more.
But, renaming all POS structures ? Wow. Impressed.
(Not impressed in any way by the fact why this wasn't done years ago, structures even had an editable name field all the time... but, maybe CCP simply can't work in other way. Needs to screw-up and then produce an unexpected bonus...) Just try Fleet Mining with one window!! This new system stinks for Orca's, multiple windows are required!!!
Shift Click |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
39
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:09:00 -
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Shadow Phaze wrote:while in space u have to sort out your cargo containers... for some like me i have mine open constantly... when i undock i have to resize it and re position it... this has still not been fixed yet... also while docking... i want my cargo container so stay with me and also show me my items hanger and ship hanger in 2 seperate windows in a tab! this does not happen...
if this has been said then fine but i cba reading 65 pages to see....
Your going to have to fix your macro to work with the new system I think. |
Capsuleer Newton
Hedion University Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:23:00 -
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yunafan2004 wrote:Gainard wrote:More whine for CCP: 1. If you don't know what to do with your dev time do something about the 10+ clicks to start an invention. At least insert an REPEAT button. 2. Next roll back the unified UI. It simply sucks, I don't see anything about it as positive: Load time - slower, occupied space - increased, ease of use - gone. 3. I want to play this game not click, click, click, click, click, click, etc. (forgot the shift key ) 4. Does anyone at CCP notice there is already 64 pages of complaints (at least 90% of it being complaints). 5. I am not threatening to leave the game, i actually love it - but if you monitor my online times: they have dropped significantly. Today I spent for the first time ever more time in the forum than in game. 6. What do you guys have SISI for??? Thats it for today's whine. More tomorrow #1 here is brilliant! as fellow invent and builder this system should have been changes awhile ago...but my concern is after seeing this UI they will make it even more work for us to invent..im not sure how but i think they will find a way to F it up so careful what you ask for...they just might try.....
HAHAHAHA!!!! now that needs a unified window, from selecting the bpc, selecting the installation slot, and checking for the mats.... |
Tex Steele
Department of Defence Fatal Ascension
3
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:27:00 -
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The best possible way to fix this new inventory system is to scrap it, and go back to what we had before.
I am spending way toom uch time and energy and frustration opening hangars and reopening hangars and reopening hangars and cans and holds, and trying to figure out what is qwhat.
The Naming conventioin SUCKS. Name a can, put it in the cargo hold of a ship, and then open it. Do this 12 times in an ITTY 5, and stack the cans windows in 2 rows of 6. YOu cannot see the name of the can, only the first letters of hte ship name. I know what BLOODY SHIP the can is in - I"M looking at it. I want to know WHAT CAN i'm putting stuff into.
This system has too many problems to even list here - I'd be here for 5 or 6 hours. I am a developer and a smart person. If the developers for CCP cannto see the problems that are blatantly obvious to the casual observer, much less to anyone who actually plays this game for more than 5 minutes a week, then CCP needs new developpers with some common sense.
Sorry, dudes, jsut calling it like I see it.
Bottom line: SCRAP THIS MESS and start over. |
Makaganti
University of Caille Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.05.30 08:10:00 -
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Good People of eve ccp need to be punished ccp need to know this is our game we pay an therefore we own eve
Please people of eve boycott eve for 23hrs show ccp they can't ignore us, help to train ccp how to listen
I'm proposing 1st June eve time turn off eve go spend quality time with your wife/husband, your girlfriend/boyfriend family friends if you have none of this then go out side or watch tv do anything or rob the local 7/11
Its time for action ladies and gentlemen
With unity there is power With Unity there is Power |
Mournful Conciousness
Special Situations TOHA Conglomerate
66
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Posted - 2012.05.30 08:42:00 -
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Petition Owner
Mournful Conciousness
Petition Body
The new one is impossible to use in a POS since it queries every single POS module. It is also unsafe during combat since it is common practice to keep cap boosters in small cans in your cargo hold. This is now not tenable.
Message History
AuthorMessage
Mournful Conciousness Sent - 5/30/2012 8:39:00 AM Hi Alvaldi, I sense the frustration in your reply and I sympathise. Unfortunately, I have not seen a response from a anyone in CCP that gives me any comfort that the previous look, feel and function will be restored. I cannot emphasise too much how damaging this is. Please leave the petition open as a signal of my dissatisfaction and distrust over this issue. Once the UI has been put into a state where the previous functionality is available to me, then I will be happy for this petition to be closed, and will in fact ask you to close it. Out of interest, may I ask why it is that there has not been any pro-active response from CCP? What is it that makes the company so reluctant to respond to customer demand on this issue?
GM Alvaldi Sent - 5/30/2012 5:00:00 AM I understand every single concern you have outlined in this petition as a fellow EVE player. I must however emphasize the fact that us game masters are not in any control over what changes are made to the game or any actions taken regarding the new inventory. The best way to get your point across to the devs now, as we have already made them aware of the number of petitions we are receiving that declare dissatisfaction with the new system, is to post them on the forums. In particular the Inferno feedback forum found at the following URL:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=111782
The developers are making an effort to improve the new system and find a solution that everyone can be happy with and they will be making weekly changes to the new system based on the feedback from that forum thread.
Now, are there any problems that I can assist you with or would you like for us to close this petition for you?
Best regards, GM Alvaldi EVE Online Customer Support Team
Mournful Conciousness Sent - 5/29/2012 8:00:00 AM Last night I took a deep breath, put sleeper loot into secure containers and transported it all to a trade hub to sell. The whole enterprise was painful, taking at least twice as long as it used to, requiring me to remember to shift-click, arrange new window positions etc.. Truly awful. I warped away from the POS with all the various corporate hangar windows open. Previously they would have closed automatically. Not this time, they just all switched to another view of my cargo hold. Why? Then last night I jumped into a moros to help run some sleeper sites.... and I could not find the fuel bay! Where has the right-click option gone to open my fuel bay? Why must I remember to shift-click so that I can open my fuel bay without closing my cargo bay? I need them both open, on every op. I need to see how much ammo and fuel I have left. It will never be different.
Mournful Conciousness Sent - 5/25/2012 2:28:00 PM The message from the forums is unequivocal. The new inventory has made the game unpleasant to play. The UI must revert to the previous system, at least in look and feel. The new system is terribly flawed from the persepective of gameplay. CCP's failure to come out and own up to this is outrageous in the context of Hilmaar's contrition 6 months ago.
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Lambeau Field
Spaceboobs
1
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:23:00 -
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Give us the option to opt out of this awful new UI and let us have the old UI back.At least give us the option this is terrible and you managed to **** off all of eve. |
Talon Kayd
Paratus Allied Covert Engineering Research
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:40:00 -
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Yes this has been a nightmare even still in POS use ,especially in pos use I spent more time stuffing around now then I ever did in various Inventorys give us THE CUSTOMERS a opt out option back to the old system this is a disasaster that should never of got off the ground .dont spend 6 months and god knows how many micromanaged patches to try a remady a bad idea.
Scrap it or give us the option to revert. |
StoneRhino
Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
11
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:43:00 -
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Just as a bit of an FYI.
CCP, you updated your UI, and now your new user tutorials are all broken again. Great job at boning your new players :) |
BobTheExcavator
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:57:00 -
[1350] - Quote
When it first came out. I though it was barely an improvement. With these latest tweaks it has gotten better. I've salvaged, pos managed, and dealt with corp hangars. I've not dealt with multi bay ships or corpmates private hangars (I hear that one is a real nightmare), keep fixing things like you did with the last patch and it'll be great. |
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