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Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:01:00 -
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Hi all
Just wondering, any decent t1 prophecy fits out there? just wanting to doodle into Amarr PvE, and to decide if i want to work my way up through the battleships.
now, i dont need the comments Uh get a tengu, or uuuh drakes run l3s soo much better uuuh armarr are **** for running missions derp derp. im just looking for a good T1 prophecy fit. :)
Many thanks! |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:03:00 -
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Nogginz wrote:Hi all
Just wondering, any decent t1 prophecy fits out there? just wanting to doodle into Amarr PvE, and to decide if i want to work my way up through the battleships.
now, i dont need the comments Uh get a tengu, or uuuh drakes run l3s soo much better uuuh armarr are **** for running missions derp derp. im just looking for a good T1 prophecy fit. :)
Many thanks!
just on a side note, i'm also wanting just a proph fit due to the fact it looks soo bad ass with them new cylon eyes. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:11:00 -
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Something along these lines.
[Prophecy, Prophecy fit]
Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Small Tractor Beam I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
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Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:14:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Something along these lines.
[Prophecy, Prophecy fit]
Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Small Tractor Beam I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
so, if i were to get the meta 4 versions of each ( i can get some T2 stuff)would that be cool?
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:15:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Something along these lines.
[Prophecy, Prophecy fit]
Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Small Tractor Beam I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
Yeah, something like that. It has a lot of caveats, though:
- Use against Sanshas only. Will have crappy damage against all other pirates except Blood Raiders, and those guys neut you too hard.
- Slow as hell.
- Crappy damage overall compared to other battlecruisers.
I agree that the Prophecy looks sweet, but it's just not that great for actually shooting things. It's better at being a brick. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:18:00 -
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[/quote] Yeah, something like that. It has a lot of caveats, though:
- Use against Sanshas only. Will have crappy damage against all other pirates except Blood Raiders, and those guys neut you too hard.
- Slow as hell.
- Crappy damage overall compared to other battlecruisers.
I agree that the Prophecy looks sweet, but it's just not that great for actually shooting things. It's better at being a brick.[/quote]
well, considering i just want to doodle in it, i'd rather survive-ability for now, im not looking for a gank ship, something i can chill in, and do at a slow pace |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.05.23 23:20:00 -
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Nogginz wrote: so, if i were to get the meta 4 versions of each ( i can get some T2 stuff)would that be cool?
Scorch is pretty much a requirement for that fit.
Without you'll probably need beams. I haven't PvE'd with medium beams so. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:15:00 -
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Try this fit - downgrade to T1 modules as needed:
[Prophecy, M's Prophecy copy 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN Afterburner II Stasis Webifier II Cap Recharger II
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Assault Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5
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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:39:00 -
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FT has the right direction for you. It's part of got me to make Lili train Minmatar as her second race of ships. The past and current prophecy gets no damage bonus to lasers. Only the meh cap reduction bonus. No matter, you can fit it with projectiles and it becomes your go to boat to take into level 3 Gurista, Angel, and EOM missions (until you train a second race of ships, which every character should do).
I differ with FT on the guns though. Even though the grid gets tight I usually fit mine with 650s for missions. It's just nice to have range as an option. I have never liked ac or pulse in missions for that reason.
For missions against sansha, blood raiders and rogue drones use a Harbinger. It actually slices through them better than any other tech I boat option. And that would be a meta 4 beam fit Harbinger, again because range is so often an advantage you can use in missions. Scorch is great, but I'd still rather do most missions with beams tbh especially with heavy TD from the sansha rats. |
Salo Aldeland
Luma Operations
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:56:00 -
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I did all my Amarr L3's in a T1 Prophecy with Heavy Beams, I think. Stable cap, with hardeners for Sansha / BR.
[Prophecy, New Setup 1] Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I N-Type EM Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I Extruded Heat Sink I Extruded Heat Sink I Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array Optical Tracking Computer I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio M [empty high slot]
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
I had discovered the ability to juggle lenses and tracking scripts to adjust as targets moved through the different ranges. Used Radio, Standard and Multifrequency lenses. Having no prop mod was slow and a bit annoying on missions with widely spaced gates, but the beams had enough reach I never had to approach an enemy to start shooting it. By that time my drones skills were good enough to deal with close orbiting frigates, but not all that well. I think I eventually lost the ship due to a scramming frigate my drones just couldn't kill in time, so beware of that. But having the long range guns was a treat after doing L2's in a pulse fit Maller.
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Kaikka Carel
White syndicate Wormholes Holders
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:05:00 -
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Well why not Harbinger? |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:16:00 -
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Kaikka Carel wrote:Well why not Harbinger?
Prophecy is sexy, Harby is pugly. |
Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.24 06:46:00 -
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Yeah you want beams cause you need the range on Scorch or you'll be burning right up to everything you want to kill which is a huge waste of time, and yes, meta versions of the weapons will work but you should at least have a full t2 armor tank for battlecruisers.
Also, if you don't care that much about the looks, the Harb is far better for missions because of damage bonus and still enough tank for L3s. |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:21:00 -
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Cheers for all the replys so far, and nice to see an actual T1 fit! :D i'll give it a go later on today.
on cross training, ect, i'm pretty much trained up for everything but Amarr, hence T1 fittings ect ect, but i would of never of guessed putting mimmy guns on a amarr ship!
P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now. |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:23:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote: you should at least have a full t2 armor tank for battlecruisers.
aye, that's bog standard really, with any ship but, it's just a taster :P |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:23:00 -
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Nogginz wrote:P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now. I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:27:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Nogginz wrote:P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now. I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.
aye, sub par, but one of the best looking amarr ships due to the new overhaul. |
Karmu Ivanostrov
Ride To Ruin
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:28:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Nogginz wrote:P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now. I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.
And Ferox and Cyclone! |
Alara IonStorm
2271
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:29:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Nogginz wrote:P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now. I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome. I use a Pulse Laser Scorch Prophecy for small gang stuff with 3 Heatsinks. 60kEHP and a bit above average Cruiser DPS but it hits out good and you're the last ship to be shot at. Not good but gimicky.
I can't wait for it to get the Punisher style damage bonus. |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:30:00 -
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Karmu Ivanostrov wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Nogginz wrote:P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now. I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome. And Ferox and Cyclone!
on the subject of ferox, if you happen to be out of armour ships, fit a ferox up for armour and you'll be amazed at the results. many people in my corp/alliance worship the armour tanked sniper ferox. |
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:36:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome.
Well, new Punisher is like frigate sized Abaddon. If they do the same for Prophecy it will be awesome. |
Karmu Ivanostrov
Ride To Ruin
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:56:00 -
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Nogginz wrote:Karmu Ivanostrov wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Nogginz wrote:P.S as i said, i dont want people recomending other ships i know, mad i am. but the proph is a ship i want to fly, i mean, look at 'dem bad ass eyes on it now. I own two Prophecies and use them both for PvP. They really are subpar, but pretty. I can't wait for a rebalance to hit them and make them be awesome. And Ferox and Cyclone! on the subject of ferox, if you happen to be out of armour ships, fit a ferox up for armour and you'll be amazed at the results. many people in my corp/alliance worship the armour tanked sniper ferox.
Would that be Armor tanked Arty Ferox? lol I could see it with dual webs, neut and cap booster... But as a sniper.. what do you put in all those mids? Tracking computers?? I dont know.. it seems a bit underwhelming in the dmg department.... Would have to EFT one and check.. Thanks for the heads up =) |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:01:00 -
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Karmu Ivanostrov wrote: Would that be Armor tanked Arty Ferox? lol I could see it with dual webs, neut and cap booster... But as a sniper.. what do you put in all those mids? Tracking computers?? I dont know.. it seems a bit underwhelming in the dmg department.... Would have to EFT one and check.. Thanks for the heads up =)
i can find you a fit once im online in game, and i'll soon be taking one out on roams. there have been many a time where fleets have been lost, (hey, its 0.0) and the mighty ferox tends to be last on field, still slugging away till the bitter end. |
Karmu Ivanostrov
Ride To Ruin
2
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:04:00 -
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Nogginz wrote:Karmu Ivanostrov wrote: Would that be Armor tanked Arty Ferox? lol I could see it with dual webs, neut and cap booster... But as a sniper.. what do you put in all those mids? Tracking computers?? I dont know.. it seems a bit underwhelming in the dmg department.... Would have to EFT one and check.. Thanks for the heads up =)
i can find you a fit once im online in game, and i'll soon be taking one out on roams. there have been many a time where fleets have been lost, (hey, its 0.0) and the mighty ferox tends to be last on field, still slugging away till the bitter end.
Gotta love that on the tanky tier1 BCs... Always the last one holding the field... in the end you might end up doing more damage than those pesky Hurricanes being primaried to hell and back..
What better defence than having a friend look more menacing? |
Nogginz
Tymast Industries 150th THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:11:00 -
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Karmu Ivanostrov wrote:Nogginz wrote:Karmu Ivanostrov wrote: Would that be Armor tanked Arty Ferox? lol I could see it with dual webs, neut and cap booster... But as a sniper.. what do you put in all those mids? Tracking computers?? I dont know.. it seems a bit underwhelming in the dmg department.... Would have to EFT one and check.. Thanks for the heads up =)
i can find you a fit once im online in game, and i'll soon be taking one out on roams. there have been many a time where fleets have been lost, (hey, its 0.0) and the mighty ferox tends to be last on field, still slugging away till the bitter end. Gotta love that on the tanky tier1 BCs... Always the last one holding the field... in the end you might end up doing more damage than those pesky Hurricanes being primaried to hell and back.. What better defence than having a friend look more menacing?
it's all down to fleet comp, and chance, i guess too. in my time in 0.0...
50% of FCs go for random targets in the bulk of the fleet ships that are the same to neut alpha 50% of FCs go for odd ships/logi ect ect.
but Ferox(es?) are the odd balls. they never seem to be primary. ever. (that'll all change now) |
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