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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:15:00 -
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Why is the insurance such a joke on these things? |
Salo Aldeland
Luma Operations
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:24:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:Why is the insurance such a joke on these things?
Insurance is based on the cost of the minerals it would take to build them, not the market price to buy the finished ship.
I think. That's also the reason T2 ships aren't well insured. The cost of advanced components never gets factored into the replacement cost for insurance purposes. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:38:00 -
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Insurance is for people who lose.
Faction Battleships are for winners.
Are you a winner? |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:04:00 -
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Salo Aldeland wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:Why is the insurance such a joke on these things? Insurance is based on the cost of the minerals it would take to build them, not the market price to buy the finished ship. I think. That's also the reason T2 ships aren't well insured. The cost of advanced components never gets factored into the replacement cost for insurance purposes.
Although I like Alara's answer more, this is correct. |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:05:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Insurance is for people who lose.
Faction Battleships are for winners. So if you lose a faction battleship, what does that make you? |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:23:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Insurance is for people who lose.
Faction Battleships are for winners. So if you lose a faction battleship, what does that make you? Usually poor.
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Leetha Layne
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:23:00 -
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Someone who can replace it. |
TomyLobo
Posthuman Society Elysian Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:24:00 -
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I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days |
Heun zero
Reliant Tactical Operations
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:40:00 -
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TomyLobo wrote:I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days
It is the way forward to un-noob yourself |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:32:00 -
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Heun zero wrote:TomyLobo wrote:I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days It is the way forward to un-noob yourself
Ironically, it paints you as a noob more and more with each question asked. Lurking silently would give you most of the information, without activating a huge flashing light over your head ^^ |
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:48:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Heun zero wrote:TomyLobo wrote:I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days It is the way forward to un-noob yourself Ironically, it paints you as a noob more and more with each question asked. Lurking silently would give you most of the information, without activating a huge flashing light over your head ^^ for once i have to agree with trollboy. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:56:00 -
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It's never wrong to ask, sharing information is the purpose of these forums.
I'd also suggest that losing a tier 3 battlecruiser to a Hulk in highsec is a brighter beacon of noobiness than asking a question.
Just sayin.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Victor Sane
Aerodyne Nova
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:22:00 -
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If you choose to fire on hulks in high sec if youre not in war with them then yea its stupid espicially since a tier 3 bc is not a tanker but a heavy gunner with large turrets shooting on a medium target is just stupid |
Heun zero
Reliant Tactical Operations
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:31:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Heun zero wrote:TomyLobo wrote:I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days It is the way forward to un-noob yourself Ironically, it paints you as a noob more and more with each question asked. Lurking silently would give you most of the information, without activating a huge flashing light over your head ^^
You say that like there is something wrong with being a noob. If I'm a noob then I'm a noob, although a rather old one.. Asking questions is a good way to learn, and as you grow and learn in this game, you'll learn to ask better questions. Not only that but you'll be able to answer the new noob questions on this forum which will further add to not being seen as a noob anymore.
But hey why would you care if people in a game or on a forum view you as a noob?? I'd much rather be appreciated by my friends and family in rl.
Heun.
p.s. Since we're hijacking this thread anyway and the OP's question has already been answered, can somebody tell me why it's a bad Idea to use a torp raven in L3's? I mean torps do soo much dmgt hey really must kick ass don't they??
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Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:22:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Heun zero wrote:TomyLobo wrote:I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days It is the way forward to un-noob yourself Ironically, it paints you as a noob more and more with each question asked. Lurking silently would give you most of the information, without activating a huge flashing light over your head ^^
Well, someone has to ask all the questions for all the lurkers to get the answers. If everyone just lurked, these forums would be |
Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:24:00 -
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Heun zero wrote:p.s. Since we're hijacking this thread anyway and the OP's question has already been answered, can somebody tell me why it's a bad Idea to use a torp raven in L3's? I mean torps do soo much dmgt hey really must kick ass don't they??
I don't think the words kick ass and raven belong in the same sentence (quite aside from torps and L3s), but for some reason in the last few days I've developed a really strong hate for Ravens apparently.
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Renier Gaden
Exanimo Inc Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:52:00 -
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Heun zero wrote: p.s. Since we're hijacking this thread anyway and the OP's question has already been answered, can somebody tell me why it's a bad Idea to use a torp raven in L3's? I mean torps do soo much dmgt hey really must kick ass don't they??
This looks like a baited hook to me, but heck, I will bight.
1) Torps do less than full damage against ships that have a smaller signature radius than the TorpGÇÖs explosion radius. L3 missions have small ships, so Torps do less damage to them.
2) Torps do less than full damage against ships that are moving faster than their explosions velocity (61 m per sec for Inferno Rage TorpedoGÇÖs for example) and small ships in L3 missions fly fast. Actually just about any ship will exceed 61m per second, so you would almost never do full damage.
3) Torps are close range, and Rats usually do the most damage at close range, making them harder to tank than if you were kiting them 60 km out. This would be more of an issue in level 4 missions where the ships do more damage.
Anyway, that is my best guess as to why torps donGÇÖt kick ass in L3 missions. I am guessing that you already know this, and just ask to get someone to explain it to the lurkers. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
661
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:54:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Heun zero wrote:TomyLobo wrote:I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days It is the way forward to un-noob yourself Ironically, it paints you as a noob more and more with each question asked. Lurking silently would give you most of the information, without activating a huge flashing light over your head ^^ for once i have to agree with trollboy.
Don't you mean, agree with Mr. Gorki publicly |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
661
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:55:00 -
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Mavnas wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Heun zero wrote:TomyLobo wrote:I'm guessing OP is a noob based on all the questions he or she has been asking this past few days It is the way forward to un-noob yourself Ironically, it paints you as a noob more and more with each question asked. Lurking silently would give you most of the information, without activating a huge flashing light over your head ^^ Well, someone has to ask all the questions for all the lurkers to get the answers. If everyone just lurked, these forums would be
Yes they'd be a lot quieter but a lot better, without people crudding up the place with 'What's a good level 4 raven setup' (good god!) |
Transporter Ted
Midas Tycho
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:55:00 -
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Can't say I've ever insured a ship on any character, weird! |
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
665
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:59:00 -
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Heun zero wrote:
You say that like there is something wrong with being a noob. If I'm a noob then I'm a noob, although a rather old one.. Asking questions is a good way to learn, and as you grow and learn in this game, you'll learn to ask better questions. Not only that but you'll be able to answer the new noob questions on this forum which will further add to not being seen as a noob anymore.
But hey why would you care if people in a game or on a forum view you as a noob?? I'd much rather be appreciated by my friends and family in rl.
I'm not sure exactly how you make the connection between an internet spaceships game and RL family and friends, but hey ho, to each their own. The reason I said that is EVE is a game in which it (and it's community) rewards self-reliance and initiative. Spoonfeeding is generally something to be discouraged. I know it's a somewhat illogical situation, but there you have it :) |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.26 02:29:00 -
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Insurance doesn't cover the cost of the blueprints either.
That isn't an issue for T1 ships, but faction and T2 blueprints are expensive. |
Heun zero
Reliant Tactical Operations
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Posted - 2012.05.27 09:28:00 -
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Renier Gaden wrote:
This looks like a baited hook to me, but heck, I will bight.
1) Torps do less than full damage against ships that have a smaller signature radius than the TorpGÇÖs explosion radius. L3 missions have small ships, so Torps do less damage to them.
2) Torps do less than full damage against ships that are moving faster than their explosions velocity (61 m per sec for Inferno Rage TorpedoGÇÖs for example) and small ships in L3 missions fly fast. Actually just about any ship will exceed 61m per second, so you would almost never do full damage.
3) Torps are close range, and Rats usually do the most damage at close range, making them harder to tank than if you were kiting them 60 km out. This would be more of an issue in level 4 missions where the ships do more damage.
Anyway, that is my best guess as to why torps donGÇÖt kick ass in L3 missions. I am guessing that you already know this, and just ask to get someone to explain it to the lurkers.
lol, i was a baited hook yes. Nonetheless I thank you for your reply |
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