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Fina13
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Fina13 on 27/07/2009 23:33:13 I am currently minmatar and would like to cross train for a race more suited for PvP especially with the larger ships (somewhat cruiser, BC, BS, and so on). I am not certain which race i should train for. Caldari is also a option but i was leaning towards amarr for the most part and also partially Gallente. Which race would be the best for me?
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Clan Gold Viper
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:47:00 -
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Depends on which type of PVP you want to do. For fleets, pick Amarr, for solo, pick Gallente.
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Vyktor Abyss
Gallente The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:51:00 -
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Go flavour of the year with CCP - Amarr Victor!
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Jethr0
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:56:00 -
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Well im kinda new myself but i don't see how 1 race should geared more to PvP then the rest, and don't forget some ships might get nerfed or buffed. The race that would be best for you i the one you choose for your self no one can really tell you which is better because everyone has different views. I take it you new to the game and so i take it you don't have to many SP atm, so you can still change the direction you want to go.
Im not too sure what minmater traits are but for example if u like missiles/hybrid caldari are good to go for. Personnaly i went for caldari first because the corp that i wanted to join were caldari(now FW amarr). However i never got to caldari BS because i decided i wanted to be a close up kind of player so i trained for the abaddon(my fav looking ship).
However you might not like this way as i said at the start no one can really decide for you go for what YOU like.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Fina13 Edited by: Fina13 on 27/07/2009 23:33:13 I am currently minmatar and would like to cross train for a race more suited for PvP especially with the larger ships (somewhat cruiser, BC, BS, and so on). I am not certain which race i should train for. Caldari is also a option but i was leaning towards amarr for the most part and also partially Gallente. Which race would be the best for me?
It depends on where more of your support skills are at. Since many of matari ships are shield tanks. Caldari would be a better choice. [i]FALCON!!![i]
however but gallente and amarr have their ups and downs. IF you have good drone skills go gallente, if you dont want to deal with drones go amarr. --------------------------
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.28 00:04:00 -
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Since you want bigger ships (Minmatar cruisers, BCs, and frigates, both T1 and T2, are awesome for PvP), let's see what each race has to offer:
Gallente: Dominix
Amarr: Harbinger, Damnation, Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon
Caldari: Drake, Vulture, Scorpion, Raven, Rokh
If we include cruiser hulls, add the following:
Gallente: Ishtar
Amarr: Zealot, Sacrilege, Curse, Pilgrim
Caldari: Blackbird, Eagle, Cerberus, Onyx, Rook, Falcon
Conclusion: train Amarr or Caldari, depending on which specific ships you want. Gallente are not worth it. ==========
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Jethr0
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Posted - 2009.07.28 00:08:00 -
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Meh i love my domi on my other account and the mega isn't all that bad, to be honest i've heard nothing but good things about it.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.28 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin Since you want bigger ships (Minmatar cruisers, BCs, and frigates, both T1 and T2, are awesome for PvP), let's see what each race has to offer:
Gallente: Dominix
Amarr: Harbinger, Damnation, Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon
Caldari: Drake, Vulture, Scorpion, Raven, Rokh
If we include cruiser hulls, add the following:
Gallente: Ishtar
Amarr: Zealot, Sacrilege, Curse, Pilgrim
Caldari: Blackbird, Eagle, Cerberus, Onyx, Rook, Falcon
Conclusion: train Amarr or Caldari, depending on which specific ships you want. Gallente are not worth it.
Durr 1400 DPS megathron Durrr
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Vexor Fleets (same # of drones as a myrm and a better tank if you all fit RR means alot)
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DPS Out the asswhole ASS-Tarte
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2009.07.28 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Conclusion: train Amarr or Caldari, depending on which specific ships you want. Gallente are not worth it.
I can't wait till amarr get nerfed and gallente get buffed. It'll be funny to see all your posts change suddenly to recommend gallente instead of amarr. Also, I think you underestimate the uses that gallente ships have.
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Sharp Feather
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.28 01:22:00 -
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by the time you train for amaar the minmatar will be buffed and you will have done that for nothing. Race supremacy is a cycle. Its amaar now, its gonna be minmatar later... You get the point. Just fly what you like most and forget the rest. LOGIC & MORE LOGIC
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2009.07.28 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sharp Feather by the time you train for amaar the minmatar will be buffed and you will have done that for nothing. Race supremacy is a cycle. Its amaar now, its gonna be minmatar later... You get the point. Just fly what you like most and forget the rest.
Remember when everybody trained for falcons and then they got nerfed. I'd say if you train for gallente or minmatar, by the time you get good at them, they will be buffed and amarr nerfed.
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Eli Porter
Amarr Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.07.28 03:14:00 -
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Megathron is an excellent fleet ship and don't let anybody tell you otherwise. Dominix is good for almost everything and Hyperion is a great solo ship.
I'm no fan of the Myrm, but the Brutix is a beast when it comes to gankpower. Hurricane is an excellent Battlecruiser as well.
Then there are the Thorax and Vexor which IMO are the best two T1 cruisers out there besides the Blackbird.
As for T2, you're sorted with Minmatar+Gallente. Vagabond and Ishtar are arguably tied for the best HAC out there, and having Deimos as a 2nd option for sniping really works well. with other stuff like Interdictors, Gallente don't really shine that much. But Minmatar has the best Interdictors so you're sorted.
I'm no fan of the Gallente Recon ships and EWar frigs, but I like the Minmatar ones. You could always train for the Curse(Amarr Recon Ship) later as it doesn't require too much training time besides Amarr Cruiser V(No Lasers or Ewar skills required).
I'd go Gallente over Amarr.
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Fina13
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Posted - 2009.07.28 05:05:00 -
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Well thank you for all of your input. Both Gallente and Amarr seem like very good choices but i think i will go for Amarr.
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2009.07.28 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Fina13 Well thank you for all of your input. Both Gallente and Amarr seem like very good choices but i think i will go for Amarr.
you're so screwed you don't even know it yet
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Fina13
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Posted - 2009.07.28 05:24:00 -
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And why would that be?
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente Clearly Compensating
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Posted - 2009.07.28 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
DPS Out the asswhole ASS-Tarte
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Epegi Givo
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.07.28 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fina13 And why would that be?
People believe that Amarr is more powerful than the current other races. They believe that amarr will soon be nerfed.
However, these are all minmatar who have fought amarr in FW. Gallente are actually very powerful. A megathron is a force to definitely be feared on the battlefield, and the navythron one of the few PVP-viable faction ship around.
but minmatar and caldari aren't doing very well. Missiles are almost completely useless in PVP, and shield tanking leaves little room for sensorbooster/ECCM/warp jammers/etc. And minmatar is horribly short ranged, and thanks tot he speed nerf they can no longer catch up to their targets.
But for gallente and amarr they are both specialized in different areas.
For gallente their battleships are forces to be feared, and in small gangs they are even better. Their battlecruisers i have no experience with, so i cannot reliably give any advice for them, other than use a BS instead, around just as maneuverable and much more firepower/tank.
The amarr battleships are also powerful, but easy to tank against, due to only 2 damage types. But in my opinion, amarr's strongest point is its t2 cruisers. The pilgrim and curse can neut even battleships, and with their tracking disruptors, even frigates will have trouble hitting a close-orbitting one. and with the target neutralized completely you will easily eat their tank up.
The Sacrilige isn't very good because of the missile nerf, but still a pretty good ship. But the zealot is easily one of the strongest ships around. Its lack of drones makes frigates a problem, but nothing a web and multifreqs won't quickly solve. The zealot can deal HEAVY dps, while still keeping a decent tank.
So it just depends on what you like more.
Gallente has better big ships, amarr has better small ships. Minmatar also had powerful small ships, (Rupture comes to mind) so for your particular case, I would go with Gallente. ------------------------------------- My other alt is a Ferrari
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aDore Velr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 09:16:00 -
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Real men fly Sansha.
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Wacktopia
Infinity Miners Union Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Wacktopia on 28/07/2009 09:58:40
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Gallente: Dominix Amarr: Harbinger, Damnation, Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon Caldari: Drake, Vulture, Scorpion, Raven, Rokh
If we include cruiser hulls, add the following:
Gallente: Ishtar Amarr: Zealot, Sacrilege, Curse, Pilgrim Caldari: Blackbird, Eagle, Cerberus, Onyx, Rook, Falcon
Hahahahaha. Ahem. Ha.
I think you are forgetting the Megathron, Brutix, Vexor, Ishkur, Myrm. It's common knowledge that Caldari suck big-time at PVP unless they are EWAR.
Made me luagh though, thanks for that.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Liberi Fatalius Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:30:00 -
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Amarr have Scorch, what do Gallente have?
exactly!
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Isilwen Nightfall
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia Edited by: Wacktopia on 28/07/2009 09:58:40
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
It's common knowledge that Caldari suck big-time at PVP unless they are EWAR.
Sorry Sir, I have to disagree.
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Isilwen Nightfall
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Isilwen Nightfall on 28/07/2009 10:37:17
Originally by: Wacktopia
It's common knowledge that Caldari suck big-time at PVP unless they are EWAR.
Sorry Sir, I have to disagree.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: aDore Velr Real men fly Sansha.
This :)
But Amarr got excelent BSs. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Liberi Fatalius Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Isilwen Nightfall Edited by: Isilwen Nightfall on 28/07/2009 10:37:17
Originally by: Wacktopia
It's common knowledge that Caldari suck big-time at PVP unless they are EWAR.
Sorry Sir, I have to disagree.
my hamdrake, cerb, rook and tengu all agree with your disagreement
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Isilwen Nightfall Edited by: Isilwen Nightfall on 28/07/2009 10:37:17
Originally by: Wacktopia
It's common knowledge that Caldari suck big-time at PVP unless they are EWAR.
Sorry Sir, I have to disagree.
my hamdrake, cerb, rook and tengu all agree with your disagreement
I can confirm the Caldari awesomeness as well. HAM Tengu sure nice imo <3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Isilwen Nightfall
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.28 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Various
stuff
Well, without going for the costy Tengu (which i rarely see in pvp), other ships are good as well.
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