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Lemster
Disconnected. Choke Point
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:33:00 -
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Leeloo Malaquin wrote: - HYDRA and OB are not a single entity. They are 2 different entities on TQ with their own history. CCP knows this very well. We worked together closely in AT9 but with the new rules we were only planning to test together(unless told we can't do it) before the tournament begins.
If you watch last years final carefully I think you'll find that for tournament purposes you are one entity.
+1 CCP |
Spark's
Terra Hawks The Initiative.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:53:00 -
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CCP has made an example of you and Outbreak. as a warning to other alliances so deal with it. At the end of the day you will continue to play the game and most likely will enter next year. Just remember the rules next time to avoid this mess. you have only yourself to blame, the rule they done for you was to STOP what you did last year. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
272
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:55:00 -
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banning both teams for f*cked up AT IX finals is a proper decision. props CCP |
Halarach
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
27
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:57:00 -
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Congratulations on making this year's AT much less interresting than what it could be CCP.
Hubris has already damaged you a lot as a company, thought you learned the lesson, was wrong.
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
272
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:57:00 -
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Halarach wrote:Congratulations on making this year's AT much less interresting than what it could be CCP.
Hubris has already damaged you a lot as a company, thought you learned the lesson, was wrong.
AT IX final was in fact very interesting. Oh I forgot irony tags there. you too? |
Time Funnel
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
135
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:03:00 -
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Lemster wrote:Leeloo Malaquin wrote: - HYDRA and OB are not a single entity. They are 2 different entities on TQ with their own history. CCP knows this very well. We worked together closely in AT9 but with the new rules we were only planning to test together(unless told we can't do it) before the tournament begins.
If you watch last years final carefully I think you'll find that for tournament purposes you are one entity. +1 CCP
From someone who has watched every match from last year at least 6 times and gone over the killboards for most of them, I concur that for the purposes of blatantly stealing your setups you are one team.
We have stolen and analyzed pretty much every setup/match you have fielded/been in./. There are really no differences between the two teams. You did that Vindicator thing at the end almost as comedy. My complements on your metagaming, it was almost "as you say" too good.
My only comment is that if you would have bashed each others faces in and the winners made hip thrusting motions at the crowd of fans, then you are providing the sort of online tournament entertainment that people expect.
When you stop shooting half way through a match in the finals in a Starcraft Tournament... well I think you see my point. |
Rhatar Khurin
United Earth Directorate
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:05:00 -
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Throwing two different matches including the final deserves both of you to be excluded dispite what you have recently been doing.
If it was upto me, both HYDRA and Outbreak would've be disqualified and the 1st/2nd place given to 3rd/4th |
Spark's
Terra Hawks The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:06:00 -
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Halarach wrote:Congratulations on making this year's AT much less interresting than what it could be CCP.
Hubris has already damaged you a lot as a company, thought you learned the lesson, was wrong.
Your opinion of course right? I think it's made this years AT much more interesting as the outcome looks far different. Who is going to win? We find out soon! |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
273
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:07:00 -
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Rhatar Khurin wrote:Throwing two different matches including the final deserves both of you to be excluded dispite what you have recently been doing.
If it was upto me, both HYDRA and Outbreak would've be disqualified and the 1st/2nd place given to 3rd/4th
legit suggestion this man brings +1 |
xo3e
The Deliberate Forces HYDRA RELOADED
14
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:12:00 -
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Quote:Who is going to win? We find out soon!
pandemic legion or pandemic legion ?
or maybe pandemic legion?
so entertaining Signature removed. Navigator |
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Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
200
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:12:00 -
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Rhatar Khurin wrote:Throwing two different matches including the final deserves both of you to be excluded dispite what you have recently been doing.
If it was upto me, both HYDRA and Outbreak would've be disqualified and the 1st/2nd place given to 3rd/4th
I think they both deserved to be in the final last year, however what happened in the final was an insult to everyone running/watching the tournament.
I may actually watch the tournament now - I wasn't going to bother if last year's finalists were included in the draw.
From having a read through recent threads it appears both finalists thought they could take the **** this year as well, despite knowing full well that the rule changes were caused by them.
+1 to CCP for removing them, the tournament will be better for their absence. |
Spark's
Terra Hawks The Initiative.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:26:00 -
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xo3e wrote:Quote:Who is going to win? We find out soon! pandemic legion or pandemic legion ? or maybe pandemic legion? so entertaining
Maybe... Maybe.... But you know they will fight for their victory. But say they happen to win, hypothetically of course, do you think you'll get a little light headed and sick to your stomach? |
Musician
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:28:00 -
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Halarach wrote:Congratulations on making this year's AT much less interresting than what it could be CCP.
Hubris has already damaged you a lot as a company, thought you learned the lesson, was wrong.
This pretty much sums it up. You have removed the best... what is now left?
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Rhatar Khurin
United Earth Directorate
12
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:34:00 -
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Musician wrote:Halarach wrote:Congratulations on making this year's AT much less interresting than what it could be CCP.
Hubris has already damaged you a lot as a company, thought you learned the lesson, was wrong.
This pretty much sums it up. You have removed the best... what is now left?
I dont know if you watched last years AT9, but i dont think i even saw a close fight in it.. Unlike previous ones with a couple of ships at the end pumping away.. none of that..
AT9 was the worst one yet :( |
Mirrodin
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:36:00 -
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ScoRpS wrote:We had neither 0utbreak or Hydra on the roster. We didn't get picked and as such we never had either team a secured spot in the tournament. So technically no we didnt but our intentions were to field both teams.
Anyone else see this?
"OUR intentions were to field BOTH teams"
Coming from one person, talking about them fielding both teams. It is obvious, the mindset going on here. |
Lemster
Disconnected. Choke Point
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:37:00 -
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Musician wrote:Halarach wrote:Congratulations on making this year's AT much less interresting than what it could be CCP.
Hubris has already damaged you a lot as a company, thought you learned the lesson, was wrong.
This pretty much sums it up. You have removed the best... what is now left?
Have a look at last years final. I think you'll agree neither team looks particularly good at pvp, let alone the best.
I suppose you could call last years final interesting, but I think it's a different kind of interesting, possibly involving some pvp, which people are looking for from the tourney. |
Time Funnel
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
135
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:38:00 -
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xo3e wrote:Quote:Who is going to win? We find out soon! pandemic legion or pandemic legion ? or maybe pandemic legion? so entertaining
With the drone changes maybe they can make that HAM Tengu / Gila team work this year. I have a soft spot in my heart for both those ships. |
PMSing
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:41:00 -
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xo3e wrote:Quote:Who is going to win? We find out soon! pandemic legion or pandemic legion ? or maybe pandemic legion? so entertaining
I think people are vastly overestimating us.
We're having too much fun in DayZ to care much about the tournament lately :3 |
Rhatar Khurin
United Earth Directorate
12
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:42:00 -
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Time Funnel wrote:xo3e wrote:Quote:Who is going to win? We find out soon! pandemic legion or pandemic legion ? or maybe pandemic legion? so entertaining With the drone changes maybe they can make that HAM Tengu / Gila team work this year. I have a soft spot in my heart for both those ships.
nano domi's this year i'm sure of it! *crosses fingers* |
Captain Woo
BLOOM. Bloomswarm
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:47:00 -
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Boom! Hybris / Nemesis bitches. What did you expect from trying to outsmart the devs?
Start an alt corp and enter that into the competition. HYDRABREAK RELOADED? I'm so bad at this eve.-á Also PL spai.-á |
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
653
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:51:00 -
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Leeloo Malaquin wrote:
The reason Sreegs gave for excluding HYDRA and OB was that he thinks HYDRA and OB are a "single entity" who are "practicing together in a single corporation on the test server in a single wormhole" while "masquerading as two units".
Followed by:
Leeloo Malaquin wrote: - Reason we joined the same corp in the TEST server was because of wormhole logistics. No one considered that a logistic technicality in the TEST server would suddenly be bannable when training together was not. And I don't understand Raivis comments when he says we made a mistake doing it, as we had been very open with CCP and told them we would practice together unless being told that we can't.
Oh please, if you really want to train on the testserver that badly its not hard to get two or even twohundred freighters into one WH. 5 man corps can do that.
Leeloo Malaquin wrote: - This leads me to wonder what Sreegs means when he talks about HYDRA and OB "masquerading as two units". We told them our intentions regarding the tournament, we told them we practice with each other, they know we are separate unit on TQ etc. I simply don't see what he is referring to.
See last year. See above. See logic. The reason the rules where changed where your actions, then you done and went and done it again...doesn't take a genius to figure out why you got scrapped.
You where ONE entity, training together intermingled in a wormhole, it doesn't matter you where on the testserver. And to top it all off you showed everybody just what would happen if another Outbreak/Hydra final would occur last year. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
483
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:52:00 -
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And there I was thining they wanted to make ATX more interesting.
Only achievement: More drama and more selling out. Just quit with the crap called AT.
You ****** up when you let metagaming to to where it is now and you laugh about it, but as soon as it doesn't suit your arses you start to become Nay sayers.
You brought all the crap on yourselves CCP. Your ignorance knows no boundries.
Hydra get's told by one GM they can train together as one entity and as soon as they do you take out another rule and just blatantly ignore the GM's reply to it so you eventually can get your revenge for AT9.
But that what happened at AT9 was a product of your own baby is just another thing you just ignore. It is you who allow even worse metagaming for everything else and then expect people to behave within narrow boundries for 1 event.
No CCP. you ****** up and you don't even have the balls nor the common sense to admit it.
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Halarach
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
27
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:53:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Halarach wrote:Congratulations on making this year's AT much less interresting than what it could be CCP.
Hubris has already damaged you a lot as a company, thought you learned the lesson, was wrong.
AT IX final was in fact very interesting. Oh I forgot irony tags there. you too?
Yes it was interresting, for the very same reasons all the stories about scamming and metagaming are entertaining and part of eve so-called sandbox, where everything is supposedly possible.
Until it doesn't fit CCP's views, that is. |
xo3e
The Deliberate Forces HYDRA RELOADED
14
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:54:00 -
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Quote:Start an alt corp and enter that into the competition. HYDRABREAK RELOADED?
no. we have enuff isks to buy plenty of characters to make 5-6 alliances for the next AT, and run this **** into the ground.
also we will spend this year to get as many chars in other alliances as we can, so next AT will become a total horseshitfest.
ccp wants a war. we will give it to them.
just butthurting. dont mind me Signature removed. Navigator |
MadbaM
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:56:00 -
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OK so I'v skim read this thread and forgive me if I'm going to ask a question that's already been answered.
I know there argument is that there two individual teams and this doesn't really apply to there argument, but they have been banned under Rule 5. To ensure that all Alliances get a fair opportunity to participate we will be checking on team entries and will disqualify teams who we consider to be 'B' or 'C' teams for bigger Alliances.
If they have banned both teams who is the supposed 'A' team? because as far as I can see they shouldn't have banned both only the B or C entry's.
I'm sure you'l let me know if I'm wrong on this.
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xo3e
The Deliberate Forces HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:08:00 -
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Quote:I think people are vastly overestimating us.
We're having too much fun in DayZ to care much about the tournament lately :3
so u say that CCP accidentally kicked only alliances that took AT10 seriously ? :333333
thats nice Signature removed. Navigator |
Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
49
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:10:00 -
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Spyker Slater wrote:Let me start by saying I was very mad after the final last year. But I think maybe a compromise CCP could do is to let them compete as one alliance as is the case with RvB?
This would be a decent compromise, to forcibly join last years "one team" as with the precedent they've now set with RvB.
Just cutting both alliances out of the tourney because of their grudge about "BAD TV" last year doesn't make the AT Team look that good as people or representatives of their company...
MadbaM wrote: OK so I'v skim read this thread and forgive me if I'm going to ask a question that's already been answered.
I know there argument is that there two individual teams and this doesn't really apply to there argument, but they have been banned under Rule 5. To ensure that all Alliances get a fair opportunity to participate we will be checking on team entries and will disqualify teams who we consider to be 'B' or 'C' teams for bigger Alliances.
If they have banned both teams who is the supposed 'A' team? because as far as I can see they shouldn't have banned both only the B or C entry's.
I'm sure you'l let me know if I'm wrong on this.
And yeah I too am confused about this |
Officer Nyota Uhura
241
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:19:00 -
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Mirrodin wrote:ScoRpS wrote:We had neither 0utbreak or Hydra on the roster. We didn't get picked and as such we never had either team a secured spot in the tournament. So technically no we didnt but our intentions were to field both teams. Anyone else see this? "OUR intentions were to field BOTH teams" Coming from one person, talking about them fielding both teams. It is obvious, the mindset going on here.
This quote indeed sums it up - it was noted, though, already on the first page:
MrWhitei God wrote:ScoRpS wrote:We had neither 0utbreak or Hydra on the roster. We didn't get picked and as such we never had either team a secured spot in the tournament. So technically no we didnt but our intentions were to field both teams. Thats alot of "We" for two separate entities
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
277
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:23:00 -
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it is all right they are banned. its not only the rule in question alone, its also the fact they already proved how they think about the competition.
ban them permanently CCP. |
ScoRpS
0utbreak Outbreak.
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:27:00 -
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Officer Nyota Uhura wrote:Mirrodin wrote:ScoRpS wrote:We had neither 0utbreak or Hydra on the roster. We didn't get picked and as such we never had either team a secured spot in the tournament. So technically no we didnt but our intentions were to field both teams. Anyone else see this? "OUR intentions were to field BOTH teams" Coming from one person, talking about them fielding both teams. It is obvious, the mindset going on here. This quote indeed sums it up - it was noted, though, already on the first page: MrWhitei God wrote:ScoRpS wrote:We had neither 0utbreak or Hydra on the roster. We didn't get picked and as such we never had either team a secured spot in the tournament. So technically no we didnt but our intentions were to field both teams. Thats alot of "We" for two separate entities
Well I am part of a team that consisted of some 20 0utbreak members. So yes its a "we" I hope I have explained it ok as I did not intend to enter the tourney on my own as a Rambo. Although I understand the Hydra implication its not warranted here. |
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