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Snow Burst
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2012.05.26 03:47:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Snow Burst wrote:only cuz of ******** idiots. if you know what your doing high is safe. you obv die in high if you think its dangerous. also interesting employment history... never been in a corp and therefore never been in nullsec properly... n if your commenting on an alt then thats pretty stupid making bold comments on an alt Forum alts are the thing nowadays. You can be a XXYY without having to prove it because your 2012 NPC corp alt is all the proof you need ! goon response is to hide behind an alt? doesnt suprise me lol There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
894
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:25:00 -
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Snow Burst wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Snow Burst wrote:only cuz of ******** idiots. if you know what your doing high is safe. you obv die in high if you think its dangerous. also interesting employment history... never been in a corp and therefore never been in nullsec properly... n if your commenting on an alt then thats pretty stupid making bold comments on an alt Forum alts are the thing nowadays. You can be a XXYY without having to prove it because your 2012 NPC corp alt is all the proof you need ! goon response is to hide behind an alt? doesnt suprise me lol Yeah. Good stuff. Note my NPC forum alt. Haha.
So, uh, we're removing local in the next patch right? It won't be a bug or anything, local just goes poof? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Lexar Mundi
EVE Pilots for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
10
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Posted - 2012.05.26 05:34:00 -
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Quote:Bonuses to Predator side: - Ships: strong, cheap, easy to train, and easy to replace - cloaking devices: a module that costs no cap, that can be active forever, and effectively halts activity by prudent Prey - default warp in points at asteroid belts: predators are given free warp to points making searching for prey a near mindless task
LOL since when is a SB strong? most SBs I have ran in to pop with small drones while their not even pointed.
if it's strong it's not cheep
Cloaking devices are just like sitting in station, do you want to make it cost fuel to sit in a station afk too?
and last on the default warp in points at asteroid belts, to make searshing for preey a "mindless task" I sure hope your not mining because that's about as mindless as it gets man.
maybe if you ran in to a real cov ops pilot you would understand how much time and strat it takes to actually use one.
talking about scanning people in seconds without them seeing probes by using D scan first to get the correct area so you don't spend 10 min scanning them down.
taking the time to watch your prey for weeks sitting off a POS to see what they can fly and to see if they have caps to kill in a WH.
Most of you nul sec carebears have no clue.
I agree 100%
Quote:2) Change D-scan. Spamming D-scan for 4 hours is not fun. - Replace it with a mid slot module called 'Active Proximity Scanner' or something. The basic theory is that any ship passing within a certain range (dependant on skill) would give a warning to the pilot. This gives the attentive Prey a chance to escape while not requiring him to constatly spam D-Scan. It also gives a swift Predator a chance to catch said Prey. Or something to that effect. Why so you can kick your feet up and read a book and have your module scream at you because your not paying attention?
Quote:3) Cloaking devices requrire charges of some sort. - It would allow covops pilots the ability to stay cloaked for decent periods of time, but not make it overpowered. It would also allow covops to create combat fits, as opposed to something like requiring it to use cap, which would force covops to fit solely for cap regen. It also forces the pilot to choose between combat flexibility vs. stealth operations and harassment (ammo vs. cloak charges), or something in between. so while were on 2 hour WH roams we have to go "Hey guys i have to jump 20 jumps to go pick up fuel can you guys wait for me? I know I'm your scan pilot and you can't really do anything without me but just wait ok."
Quote:4) Remove default warp to points in asteroid belts - Make asteroid belts scanable via probes and your system scanner. Both Predator and Prey now have to work for their money. go to WH space, this is already implemented. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2012.05.26 09:48:00 -
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removing local or delaying local wont happen. There are far too many exploits in it. Like multiple logins to avoid been detected in a system among many other exploits, not to mention a brawl that will happen like in the past. CCP is too busy joining two systms together to even concider such a risky move. Can you imagine another mass unregistration from event in the middle of dust 514s first few months of release? Not gonna happen. |
Lord Zim
701
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Posted - 2012.05.26 09:58:00 -
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Lexar Mundi wrote:Cloaking devices are just like sitting in station, do you want to make it cost fuel to sit in a station afk too? Worst comparison I've seen for a while.
Of course you do, you're one of those who are bad at ganking and need all the help they can get. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:29:00 -
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Lexar Mundi wrote:Quote:Bonuses to Predator side: - Ships: strong, cheap, easy to train, and easy to replace - cloaking devices: a module that costs no cap, that can be active forever, and effectively halts activity by prudent Prey - default warp in points at asteroid belts: predators are given free warp to points making searching for prey a near mindless task LOL since when is a SB strong? most SBs I have ran in to pop with small drones while their not even pointed. if it's strong it's not cheep (and has low dps) Cloaking devices are just like sitting in station, do you want to make it cost fuel to sit in a station afk too? and last on the default warp in points at asteroid belts, to make searshing for preey a "mindless task" I sure hope your not mining because that's about as mindless as it gets man. maybe if you ran in to a real cov ops pilot you would understand how much time and strat it takes to actually use one. talking about scanning people in seconds without them seeing probes by using D scan first to get the correct area so you don't spend 10 min scanning them down. taking the time to watch your prey for weeks sitting off a POS to see what they can fly and to see if they have caps to kill in a WH. Most of you nul sec carebears have no clue. I agree 100% Quote:2) Change D-scan. Spamming D-scan for 4 hours is not fun. - Replace it with a mid slot module called 'Active Proximity Scanner' or something. The basic theory is that any ship passing within a certain range (dependant on skill) would give a warning to the pilot. This gives the attentive Prey a chance to escape while not requiring him to constatly spam D-Scan. It also gives a swift Predator a chance to catch said Prey. Or something to that effect. Why so you can kick your feet up and read a book and have your module scream at you because your not paying attention? Quote:3) Cloaking devices requrire charges of some sort. - It would allow covops pilots the ability to stay cloaked for decent periods of time, but not make it overpowered. It would also allow covops to create combat fits, as opposed to something like requiring it to use cap, which would force covops to fit solely for cap regen. It also forces the pilot to choose between combat flexibility vs. stealth operations and harassment (ammo vs. cloak charges), or something in between. so while were on 2 hour WH roams we have to go "Hey guys i have to jump 20 jumps to go pick up fuel can you guys wait for me? I know I'm your scan pilot and you can't really do anything without me but just wait ok."
has anybody ever told you how terribly bad poster you are? I can only imagine you are as bad at this game as you are at posting. |
cpu939
Eternal Darkness. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:31:00 -
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local should stay, don't want local go to wspace.
a change to local to make it less insta intel remove the colour tags from local everyone shows but no way to know if there blue, green, red, grey or anyother colour with out looking up there info.
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Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:34:00 -
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Look at the scared little candyasses posting in this thread. Waaah, I need local because you'll sodomize me, Waaaah.
Waaah waaah, CCP might be listening to the rapists, lets all talk as if our impotent threats of quitting arent laughed at by everyone including the devs themselves. Waaah waaah. |
Solaine Talvanis
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:36:00 -
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Removing local completely would slow the game down so much it would become unplayable.. I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes in every system just to find out if somebody is there.. Space isn't that crowded so it would be really easy to miss other pilots with unfortunately timed jumps and relocations..
I do think that local should be a feature that gets expanded.. For example, adding benefits for who controls the space..
Possible ideas:
-Infrastructure upgrades that slow local information for non-blues entering a sov controlled area. (5 min delay or something). -Infrastructure upgrades that allow an "operator" at a pos or station to check local in the other systems. (range could be discussed) -Infrastructure upgrade that denies reds local information. (1 per alliance, for use in home system?)
Not saying these ideas are good ones, but just demonstrating they could expand local as a feature and truly make it a tool, instead of a free intel feature for everyone.. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:38:00 -
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Solaine Talvanis wrote:Removing local completely would slow the game down so much it would become unplayable.. I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes in every system just to find out if somebody is there.. Space isn't that crowded so it would be really easy to miss other pilots with unfortunately timed jumps and relocations..
I do think that local should be a feature that gets expanded.. For example, adding benefits for who controls the space..
Possible ideas:
-Infrastructure upgrades that slow local information for non-blues entering a sov controlled area. (5 min delay or something). -Infrastructure upgrades that allow an "operator" at a pos or station to check local in the other systems. (range could be discussed) -Infrastructure upgrade that denies reds local information. (1 per alliance, for use in home system?)
Not saying these ideas are good ones, but just demonstrating they could expand local as a feature and truly make it a tool, instead of a free intel feature for everyone..
I don't think you deserve to know nor have an inherent right to know where my character is in space without doing the work yourself.
Im also loving the hardcore nullbears pretending to be on board with removing local but then they want a sov upgrade to keep theirs.
EVE isn't hardcore it's full of risk averse pussies. And if you feel you need local and would just die without, you too are a *****. |
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Lord Zim
702
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:42:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:I don't think you deserve to know nor have an inherent right to know where my character is in space without doing the work yourself. I don't think you deserve a huge crutch to prop up under your lack of ganker skill. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:43:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:I don't think you deserve to know nor have an inherent right to know where my character is in space without doing the work yourself. I don't think you deserve a huge crutch to prop up under your lack of ganker skill.
Your whine is the biggest pile of horseshit ive ever seen. All you ever do is cry and play the role of a victim. |
Lord Zim
702
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:45:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:I don't think you deserve to know nor have an inherent right to know where my character is in space without doing the work yourself. I don't think you deserve a huge crutch to prop up under your lack of ganker skill. Your whine is the biggest pile of horseshit ive ever seen. All you ever do is cry and jump to the side of a victim. Why don't you cry some more about how local is overpowered because you can't get kills about it? |
Solaine Talvanis
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:47:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:I don't think you deserve to know nor have an inherent right to know where my character is in space without doing the work yourself.
Im also loving the hardcore nullbears pretending to be on board with removing local but then they want a sov upgrade to keep theirs.
EVE isn't hardcore it's full of risk averse pussies. And if you feel you need local and would just die without it, you too are a wussy.
If you would be entering space that belongs to another entity it would be logical they have an intel advantage over you.
I never pretended to onboard with removing local, if you actually took the time to read my post instead of insta-raging against an opinion that isn't the same as yours you would seen that I stated that in the very beginning of the post. Just like I stated that the possible ideas were 5 second brainfarts meant only to illustrate the point that local could be expanded/improved without removing it complety. Food for thought.
All I'm saying is local shouldn't work the same everywhere in New Eden. If it's supposed to be an intel tool, it should be possible to manipulate it to your advantage with hard work, earned progress and heavy maintainance..
My 5 cents. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:48:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:I don't think you deserve to know nor have an inherent right to know where my character is in space without doing the work yourself. I don't think you deserve a huge crutch to prop up under your lack of ganker skill. Your whine is the biggest pile of horseshit ive ever seen. All you ever do is cry and jump to the side of a victim. Why don't you cry some more about how local is overpowered because you can't get kills about it?
How about you pretend anyone gives a **** what you think because you sit inside a large alliance. You sir are the most candyass goon i've ever came across. From whining about cloaking to clamoring the most inane gameplay protections each and every time you fill the role of a p.ussy to perfection. |
Lord Zim
703
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:49:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:I don't think you deserve to know nor have an inherent right to know where my character is in space without doing the work yourself. I don't think you deserve a huge crutch to prop up under your lack of ganker skill. Your whine is the biggest pile of horseshit ive ever seen. All you ever do is cry and jump to the side of a victim. Why don't you cry some more about how local is overpowered because you can't get kills about it? How about you pretend anyone gives a **** what you think because you sit inside a large alliance. The truth hurts, doesn't it? |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:50:00 -
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The only truth is you aren't a real goon just a poser who paid his ten bucks. |
Lord Zim
703
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:51:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:The only truth is you aren't a real goon just a poser who paid his ten bucks. I haven't paid 10 bucks. |
Ituhata Saken
Elysium Enterprises
109
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:53:00 -
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As much as I dislike local the truth of the matter is when you jump through the gate and are inserted into the system by the other gate, why wouldn't the gate system know who you were and what ship you were in? It just transported your entire ship molecule by molecule across vast distances of space and reassembled them. It knows you better than anyone would ever care to.
The only idea I might have as far as that is concerned in 0.0 is local only works as intel for the sovereignty owner, so enemy scouts would actually have to scout but system residences would be instantly aware of their presence, and no one gets intel in unclaimed sov systems.
Hey, don't shoot me, I'm not pushing the idea, just throwing it out there as a realistic mechanic. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:01:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:As much as I dislike local the truth of the matter is when you jump through the gate and are inserted into the system by the other gate, why wouldn't the gate system know who you were and what ship you were in? It just transported your entire ship molecule by molecule across vast distances of space and reassembled them. It knows you better than anyone would ever care to.
ROFL, now i will feel violated everytime i use a gate
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Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:08:00 -
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EVE sucks, period. And it sucks because of the mindset of some of the people in this thread. Everything has to be dumbed down and simplified because the candyasses don't want to lose. The game is a big rotten camp session. Null Low and High. Its that simple. Its why the damn game can't get past 50k people playing it after ten years. It has **** all to do with being niche and more it being a mediocre attempt at pleasing two types of people. The competitive gamer and the entitlement minded candyass.
Forums always appear to favor the candyass because they arent doing anything in game so they devote their energy to the forums always vigilant for any suggestion that would out them for the game-dulling parasites they are. The competitve gamer is in EVE doing things and wondering why the OBVIOUS solution to 90% of the games problems isn't implemented.
Diablo 3 is the current excuse being thrown around as to why the population is lagging. Well heres a clue. If people weren't bored out of their mind playing EVE where every single feature is hindered by local maybe it wouldn't be so easy for people to walk away from it.
And yeah, Imadbro. |
Lord Zim
703
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:10:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:EVE sucks, period. And it sucks because of the mindset of some of the people in this thread. Everything has to be dumbed down and simplified because the candyasses don't want to lose. So that's why you want local removed, because you want the act of ganking to be dumbed down and simplified. Gotcha. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:12:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:EVE sucks, period. And it sucks because of the mindset of some of the people in this thread. Everything has to be dumbed down and simplified because the candyasses don't want to lose. The game is a big rotten camp session. Null Low and High. Its that simple. Its why the damn game can't get past 50k people playing it after ten years. It has **** all to do with being niche and more it being a mediocre attempt at pleasing two types of people. The competitive gamer and the entitlement minded candyass.
Forums always appear to favor the candyass because they arent doing anything in game so they devote their energy to the forums always vigilant for any suggestion that would out them for the game-dulling parasites they are. The competitve gamer is in EVE doing things and wondering why the OBVIOUS solution to 90% of the games problems isn't implemented.
Diablo 3 is the current excuse being thrown around as to why the population is lagging. Well heres a clue. If people weren't bored out of their mind playing EVE where every single feature is hindered by local maybe it wouldn't be so easy for people to walk away from it.
your level of anger is dusturbing. you need to have a break from game.
WWOOOOSSSSAAAA!!!!!!!!! |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:13:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:EVE sucks, period. And it sucks because of the mindset of some of the people in this thread. Everything has to be dumbed down and simplified because the candyasses don't want to lose. So that's why you want local removed, because you want the act of ganking to be dumbed down and simplified. Gotcha.
Im sure you think you're impressing someone Zim. Get 'em slugger. |
Frying Doom
179
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:17:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Of course you do, you're one of those who are bad at ganking and need all the help they can get. Have you considered that like most of the members of the large alliances it is actually you guys who don't know how to play and you can only fight in blobs and NEED to have local so you can run away? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Local Channel in Null must Die. Jump Drives need Nerfing. Null is meant to be dangerous and hard. Not safe and boring. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
448
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Have you considered that like most of the members of the large alliances it is actually you guys who don't know how to play and you can only fight in blobs and NEED to have local so you can run away?
coming from a guy who dropped corp the second he was wardecced this is p. ironic eh |
Lord Zim
703
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:22:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:EVE sucks, period. And it sucks because of the mindset of some of the people in this thread. Everything has to be dumbed down and simplified because the candyasses don't want to lose. So that's why you want local removed, because you want the act of ganking to be dumbed down and simplified. Gotcha. Im sure you think you're impressing someone Zim. Get 'em slugger. Again, the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Frying Doom wrote:Have you considered that like most of the members of the large alliances it is actually you guys who don't know how to play and you can only fight in blobs and NEED to have local so you can run away? Why don't you stay in your corp during a wardec about it? |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
160
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:26:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:EVE sucks, period. And it sucks because of the mindset of some of the people in this thread. Everything has to be dumbed down and simplified because the candyasses don't want to lose. So that's why you want local removed, because you want the act of ganking to be dumbed down and simplified. Gotcha. Im sure you think you're impressing someone Zim. Get 'em slugger. Again, the truth hurts, doesn't it? Frying Doom wrote:Have you considered that like most of the members of the large alliances it is actually you guys who don't know how to play and you can only fight in blobs and NEED to have local so you can run away? Why don't you stay in your corp during a wardec about it?
The truth is ZIm you aren't able to play on the level of a competitive gamer. You know this as do I. You need the protection to make up for your lack of ability & mental tenacity. The truth hurts doesn't it? |
Lord Zim
704
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:33:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:ZIm, like many, you aren't able to play on the level of a competitive gamer. You need the protection to make up for your lack of ability & mental tenacity. The truth hurts doesn't it? Caliph Muhammed, like many, you aren't able to play on the level of a competitive gamer. You need the crutch to make up for your lack of ability & mental tenacity. The truth hurts doesn't it? |
Snow Burst
RED.OverLord
7
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:38:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:EVE sucks, period. And it sucks because of the mindset of some of the people in this thread. Everything has to be dumbed down and simplified because the candyasses don't want to lose. The game is a big rotten camp session. Null Low and High. Its that simple. Its why the damn game can't get past 50k people playing it after ten years. It has **** all to do with being niche and more it being a mediocre attempt at pleasing two types of people. The competitive gamer and the entitlement minded candyass.
Forums always appear to favor the candyass because they arent doing anything in game so they devote their energy to the forums always vigilant for any suggestion that would out them for the game-dulling parasites they are. The competitve gamer is in EVE doing things and wondering why the OBVIOUS solution to 90% of the games problems isn't implemented.
Diablo 3 is the current excuse being thrown around as to why the population is lagging. Well heres a clue. If people weren't bored out of their mind playing EVE where every single feature is hindered by local maybe it wouldn't be so easy for people to walk away from it.
And yeah, Imadbro. NO **** YOU!!! xD but in all seriousness... just dont play? :p one person wont be missed if u dnt like eve as u said it sucks There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3 |
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