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Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 30/07/2009 07:58:38 Why so sleeperous?
Sheriff, so when you want to do that 1v1? Come on you had months to get your AF skills up to par and I haven't touched mine. Name the place. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 30/07/2009 08:24:37
Originally by: Schalac Sheriff, so when you want to do that 1v1? Come on you had months to get your AF skills up to par and I haven't touched mine. Name the place.
This again?
I've had months to get my IRL skills to level 3
But like i said all those months ago, set it up.
You called me out, you set it all up.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Azirapheal WH is primarilly pve content, not that i dont trawl it in my pilgrim picking off people here and there...
"PvE" != "carebear"
Anyone who mines or rats in a place with no local might be PvEing, but they're no carebear.
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:37:00 -
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Quote: Okay, here's the deal. EVE is overflowing with non-sentient dip****s. This is pretty normal. They also hide behind the same slobbering ****** excuses, which they don't even understand well enough to realize are complete nonsense. We all know these soundbites:
"l2p" (Translation: "I do not comprehend basic game mechanics enough to realize your skill as a player has little bearing on the fact that my gate-camping battleship blob just blew up your cruiser.") "Sorry, you were in lowsec" (Translation: "I didn't kill you, society did.") "Cry more, n00b" (Translation: "I need this. My stepfather ****s me.") "Go play on a PvE server." (Translation: ...I don't even know where to start.)
And, of course, there is the sacred mantra of the greatest of *******s, the one parroted mindlessly over and over any time anyone says anything about the fact that they're ****ing people off for it's own sake:
"If you don't like it, play something else."
To those people, I say this: pull your head out of your ass, you God damn hypocrite. You're perfectly willing to discount the way other people want to play, but you scream your balls out if anyone suggests ganking be curbed. Hey, I've got an idea: how about we remove PvP completely and YOU go play something else? Oh wait, you don't like that? Then shut the **** up.
To CCP, I give the following warning: these ****s are defining the play experience your game offers. This "**** you, go play something else" atmosphere is what defines your game, whether you intended that or not. And when there is so much hostility, so much antagonism, and so much intolerance, that gives a lot of oomph to that suggestion. If a new player gets killed for absolutely no reason, posts or EVEmails about it, and is subsequently ridiculed and told to quit the game, is it that unreasonable to think they might do just that? Being ganked isn't fun, being ridiculed isn't fun, and being told you're not welcome isn't fun. Being reassured that it's just part of the game really just tells them "sorry, this game isn't meant to be fun."
I partly agree this part, the rest is just a rant about risk vs. reward. Most of the response on your thread proves your first point, it shows what the EVE community has become. It is the new MEME or something to say those lines and everybody wants to be a part of it. Want to know more? |
Derus Grobb
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: OP CCP: If you tell people to stop playing enough times, they just might.
Play something easier? ---
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Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2009.07.30 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 30/07/2009 08:24:37
Originally by: Schalac Sheriff, so when you want to do that 1v1? Come on you had months to get your AF skills up to par and I haven't touched mine. Name the place.
This again?
I've had months to get my IRL skills to level 3
But like i said all those months ago, set it up.
You called me out, you set it all up.
GDI, still ducking I see. I told you let me know where you are at presently and I will fly my happy ass over there in an AF ready to kill you. And **** your RL skills are at 3 now??? Mine are still at 2, work and play, that seems to be all I need. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:16:00 -
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Your tears are sweet.
Welcome to the cold sad world of the capitalist distopic future envisioned by those who work at CCP games.
This game, its institutions and its community is a work of art. It is, in a word, awesome.
You've pretty much touched all the basics here. You were warned before you went into low-sec... and somehow that's not good enough. You think CCP should give you some sort of uber warning before they play... something like "this game sucks and you'll get ganked by *******s!"
The funny thing is, if you spent... oh 5 minutes reading reviews of eve on the interweb YOU'D know what this game was about.
So yes, go play another game. The reality is you've waltzed into a niche pvp MMO with you're free trial, you got ganked, and now you're explaining to the community you just joined why we all suck--as human beings--because we play the way we play in the game we play.
I would give you advice like--you can only use level 2 agents in low-sec? If you continued to grind level 1 agents you'd be able to bypass low-sec altogether... but I won't. You're a lost cause, and offensive taboot.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, kid.
-Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work. |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Schalac GDI, still ducking I see. I told you let me know where you are at presently and I will fly my happy ass over there in an AF ready to kill you. And **** your RL skills are at 3 now??? Mine are still at 2, work and play, that seems to be all I need.
No ducking, saying as it is.
You call a battle, you set it up.
You even wanted it to be a show of some sort, so go on and put your AF where your mouth is
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Schalac GDI, still ducking I see. I told you let me know where you are at presently and I will fly my happy ass over there in an AF ready to kill you. And **** your RL skills are at 3 now??? Mine are still at 2, work and play, that seems to be all I need.
No ducking, saying as it is.
You call a battle, you set it up.
You even wanted it to be a show of some sort, so go on and put your AF where your mouth is
What is easier than me coming to you and dropping a can? There I set it up. Now just tell me where you are so I know where to drop said can and we can continue with the event. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
Dark Soldat
Caldari The Green Machine Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:39:00 -
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Riveting tale, chap !
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Shadowsword
Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:42:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowsword on 30/07/2009 09:42:48
Originally by: Anslo ...yes and confirming that the major part of wh space and entire focus is pve, getting materials from pve to create pve ships. Get over it. Carebears hold on the cards, pvpers now mean nothing :)
Subsystems with ECM, scrambling, interdiction nullifiers and scanning are for pve...
The OP rant is pretty good, btw. ------------------------------------------
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Schalac What is easier than me coming to you and dropping a can? There I set it up. Now just tell me where you are so I know where to drop said can and we can continue with the event.
Me saying where i am or where this should happen will nto happen.
Basic rules of combat.
You called it, you set it up.
You say where, when etc.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Ulviirala Vauryndar
Gallente Vauryndar
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Posted - 2009.07.30 09:56:00 -
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This wouldn't have happened if you had put a condom up your arse before jumping. Fly safer o/
Unfortunately, your signature is not 22239 bytes, it exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches I fail, regards to Cortes - Ulvi |
Whineroy
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne Your tears are sweet.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, kid.
-Karlemgne
...And yet another proof that the "niche PvP community" that Eve apparently caters to consist largely of nerdy losers who enjoy being big and bad online, and who lack a pair to admit having done anything wrong.
Maybe ganker w***ers like you should go play Counter-Strike. Oh wait, CS would involve more player skill and less "pwning stupid noobs" or otherwise enjoying "PvP" where opponent has little chance of fighting back.
Or at very least, stop all the endless whining to CCP about how "L4s need to be moved to lowsec" and other crap after ganker nerds like you have driven people out of lowsec. Wait, you are a ganker nerd and doing things like above would require admitting having done something wrong and thus it would require a pair. So the whining will continue, I'm afraid.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Bestofworst Worstofbest on 30/07/2009 10:16:57
Originally by: Whineroy
Originally by: Karlemgne Your tears are sweet.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, kid.
-Karlemgne
...And yet another proof that the "niche PvP community" that Eve apparently caters to consist largely of nerdy losers who enjoy being big and bad online, and who lack a pair to admit having done anything wrong.
Maybe ganker w***ers like you should go play Counter-Strike. Oh wait, CS would involve more player skill and less "pwning stupid noobs" or otherwise enjoying "PvP" where opponent has little chance of fighting back.
Or at very least, stop all the endless whining to CCP about how "L4s need to be moved to lowsec" and other crap after ganker nerds like you have driven people out of lowsec. Wait, you are a ganker nerd and doing things like above would require admitting having done something wrong and thus it would require a pair. So the whining will continue, I'm afraid.
...And yet another proof that people like you love to just throw insults at random passerbys like they were free candy. While I don't disagree with everything you say, or agree with it either. I just got to say I'm loving the baseless insults.
Edit: And way to act big and bad on the internet. ________________________________________________
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Whineroy
Originally by: Karlemgne Your tears are sweet.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, kid.
-Karlemgne
...And yet another proof that the "niche PvP community" that Eve apparently caters to consist largely of nerdy losers who enjoy being big and bad online, and who lack a pair to admit having done anything wrong.
Maybe ganker w***ers like you should go play Counter-Strike. Oh wait, CS would involve more player skill and less "pwning stupid noobs" or otherwise enjoying "PvP" where opponent has little chance of fighting back.
Or at very least, stop all the endless whining to CCP about how "L4s need to be moved to lowsec" and other crap after ganker nerds like you have driven people out of lowsec. Wait, you are a ganker nerd and doing things like above would require admitting having done something wrong and thus it would require a pair. So the whining will continue, I'm afraid.
I see what your doing here
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Junko Togawa
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:28:00 -
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8/10 Troll, nice junior threadnaught so far. Keep it up! The emorage is strong with this one!
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:32:00 -
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hehe we all go tru that fase.
its adept or die. its an harsh world. www.garia.net |
Empress Norton
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Posted - 2009.07.30 10:46:00 -
[109]
uhoh i herd eve iz dying u gais |
Vanzatoarea
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Posted - 2009.07.30 11:04:00 -
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*flamezzzz*
ok...just wanting to add that it`s terribly wrong to assume "pvp`ers depend on carebears" . If anything , it`s the other way around.
And in case of further confusions : Mining/ratting/industry are not inherently carebear activities . I supose 90% of the 0.0/lowsec people do all of those more often then not .
all the carebears (read : NPC corp highsec players) bring to the table is inflation and lessening the value of 0.0/lowsec/legit corps activities . So all in all we would eventually be better without them
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M Thatcher
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Posted - 2009.07.30 11:13:00 -
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Bubby lost his Hurricane :( |
Darius Brinn
Gallente Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.07.30 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Brinn on 30/07/2009 11:48:31 Edited by: Darius Brinn on 30/07/2009 11:46:56
Originally by: Ezevector Okay, here's the deal. EVE is overflowing with non-sentient dip****s.
Yes, it's amazing, isn't it? Very few games can mimic real life interactions so well.
Originally by: Ezevector
"If you don't like it, play something else."
What is wrong with that sentence? Looking at the numbers, this game has been around since 2003, expanding its userbase constantly. Working as intended. If you don't like it, play something else.
Originally by: Ezevector You're perfectly willing to discount the way other people want to play, but you scream your balls out if anyone suggests ganking be curbed.
I am 100% carebear. No alts, can't even fit a T1 warp scrambler in a frigate. And I don't discount the way people wants to play. I merely dismiss people that claim they cannot play without changing the wonderful game mechanics for the rest of the playerbase.
The ganking mechanics could do with some tweaking (insurance payouts for Concorded ships make no goddamn sense), but not being 100% safe ever also means no one is 100% safe from you.
There's no Arthas waiting for you at the end of a pre-secripted progression path. There are just other selfish bastards that want to crush you, see you driven before them, and hear the lamentations of your women. In this world you choose your path and you adapt, and even the most carebearing carebears like me can do their thing, have fun and succeed (having fun and succeeding being equal, as this is a game).
Honestly, this looks like a joke topic.
Originally by: Ezevector Hey, I've got an idea: how about we remove PvP completely and YOU go play something else? Oh wait, you don't like that? Then shut the **** up.
Yeah, awesome idea. Discard a winning formula that makes money, and adapt a completely new one which is exactly opposite of the previous one. That surely is what any sane developer would do.
Originally by: Ezevector To CCP, I give the following warning: these ****s are defining the play experience your game offers. This "**** you, go play something else" atmosphere is what defines your game, whether you intended that or not.
Yes, it is. Isn't it REALLY wonderful? That's why the userbase grows non stop. People like intellectual challenges and hate being throdden on, and most people (at least most INTERESTING people) will endure and improve, not run away.
Originally by: Ezevector And when there is so much hostility, so much antagonism, and so much intolerance, that gives a lot of oomph to that suggestion. If a new player gets killed for absolutely no reason, posts or EVEmails about it, and is subsequently ridiculed and told to quit the game, is it that unreasonable to think they might do just that?
They might. Or they might actually consider ways of learning, and eventually retaliate. If a new player gets killed for no reason, they're not thinking clearly. Reading the manual, tutorials and forums give you the clue: you're killed for being killable. Be as unkillable as possible. Don't trust strangers easily. Check their backgrounds. Just as you would do in real life.
If you were trapped in a lawless territory (say, Darfur) and you were carrying something extremely valuable, would you be broadcasting your position, posessions and situation to strangers? Would you invite a gang of strangers to join you? Would you trust them to carry your goods?
Of course not. Well, here's the same. They're out to get you, and you're given the means to defend yourself. Your own personal capabilities and time devoted to the game are the limit. Raise a fortune mining, and have their asses assassinated and their corpses delivered to your hangar. Plan, plot, deceive, struggle, get revenge. Cut thei trade routes. Send them mercs and have them dock for a week. Improvise.
Nothing keeps them from killing you, and nothing keeps you from killing them.
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Skalet
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Posted - 2009.07.30 11:48:00 -
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excellent whines OP, please , continue.
One small point though. It is not the denziens of eve that are to blame, it is yourself.
some people on this earth , like to play games that have the element of risk, and using your head attached.
some do not. you obviously fit into this catagory.
i bet warcraft, hello kitty and the new jumpgat evolution might be best for you. have a nice day .
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teoliit
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Posted - 2009.07.30 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Whineroy Maybe ganker w***ers like you should go play Counter-Strike. Oh wait, CS would involve more player skill and less "pwning stupid noobs" or otherwise enjoying "PvP" where opponent has little chance of fighting back.
CS is mostly 'pwning stupid noobs' actually They cry even more than in EVE though, strangely
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2009.07.30 14:14:00 -
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When you get bored of PvE try PvP then you will understand
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Ketinvik
SRE Brotherhood
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Posted - 2009.07.30 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: No Homo Totally agree dude. Every time I get shot I'm all "why you violence my ship?" and they're all "cry more noob" and then I do. I cry for hours in my room into my Hannah Montana pillow because internet spaceships is super serious and I'm a serious person but they don't take me for serious and they call me noob and that makes me sad and I cry :(
This made me spit coffee all over my keyboard. Thanks for a good laugh to start the day.
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Doomed Predator
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.30 14:40:00 -
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Looks like someone got ganked and maybe smack talk was involved. I suggest you gb2wow where the devs will hold your hand and you can pick flowers. The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
Baugoti
Amarr Middle Finger Technology
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:01:00 -
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Someone needs a hug
{{{{Ezevector}}}}
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Doomed Predator Looks like someone got ganked and maybe smack talk was involved. I suggest you gb2wow where the devs will hold your hand and you can pick flowers.
What's wrong with picking flowers, someone has to do it. Anyway its carrots.
Op is trolling anyway or simply very dense to get sent to and then caught in lowsec.
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Argounova
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:18:00 -
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Get a cloak and learn how to use it. Nothing to see here, move along.
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