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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.26 01:58:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote: The issue is the size of your circle jerk to defend the Tech moons. No small alliance or even a decent size one like -A- can take them. If any of them are attacked the Batphone is rung and you end up with the entire CFC, NCDOT and PL defending each others Tech moons. Ah, because OTEC whill whip their asses with massive blobs. I see. So because 1000+ was too much, 2000+ is just levels of exploitation of our massively multiplayer alliances.
That said, we're hardly the Circle Jerk Coalition, it's actually the ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
725
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Posted - 2012.05.26 02:24:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
The only way for this to end is to either,
Break up the CFC, which wont happen .
So the last Coalition that held all these tech moons, exactly what was it that happened to them?
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Lord Zim
700
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Posted - 2012.05.26 02:29:00 -
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See, they were broken up, but they weren't the CFC. The CFC is invincible! |
Tertiacero
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.05.26 02:53:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:See, they were broken up, but they weren't the CFC. The CFC is invincible!
This time it's different |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
889
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:09:00 -
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Tertiacero wrote:Lord Zim wrote:See, they were broken up, but they weren't the CFC. The CFC is invincible! This time it's different Besides, it's not just the CFC, it's OTEC that is collectively doing ~things~ with tech. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
369
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:12:00 -
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Cameron Cahill wrote:So your alliance has tried and failed repeatedly over the past month or so to take tech, so now you've decided 'If you can't beat em, whine at CCP'. Ahh the -A- we all know and love.
I was going to come in here and say essentially the same thing.
Quoting is fun! You don't know |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
889
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:14:00 -
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Degren wrote:Cameron Cahill wrote:So your alliance has tried and failed repeatedly over the past month or so to take tech, so now you've decided 'If you can't beat em, whine at CCP'. Ahh the -A- we all know and love. I was going to come in here and say essentially the same thing. Quoting is fun! Quoting "for great justice".
"put sinners in their proper place." http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Judgement Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Sisocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:20:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:
But so far all of the new big upstart alliances in nullsec have been befriended by Goons. The main people who oppose us are the e-honour types and I've kind of got to be honest here. E-honour is dead.
E-Honor lives on. It might be a slave to the mechanics but it is not dead. Not yet.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:22:00 -
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Sisocih wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
But so far all of the new big upstart alliances in nullsec have been befriended by Goons. The main people who oppose us are the e-honour types and I've kind of got to be honest here. E-honour is dead.
E-Honor lives on. It might be a slave to the mechanics but it is not dead. Not yet. Not only that, the e-honour people are still here.
Still fighting the CFC as well. I actually don't know if any of them have joined us though, since you never know. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
461
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:26:00 -
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"Man, I'll do anything to get rid of the Tech cartel...
...except beating them in-game."
-Some -A- Dude. |
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Internet Lawyer Steve
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:29:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
The only way for this to end is to either,
Break up the CFC, which wont happen .
So the last Coalition that held all these tech moons, exactly what was it that happened to them?
Your RMT buddies and PL gathered a Big Blue list of people and fought RZR and MM + pets. However Goonswarm and Test, being the best buds they are didnt help and their AFK empire crumbled. Sorta like your RMT bot buddies in the Drone Lands and White Noise.
Its all good, You have Test to prop you up at the moment and when you get bored or have farmed Nulli to death, You will return to low sec and camp a gate while the rest of the TECH cartel defends your moons. Because its not like PL can atm.
~elitepvp~
Internet Lawyer Steve and Associates,
Bringing Justice to New Eden, One post at a time... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
894
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Posted - 2012.05.26 04:31:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:You will return to low sec and camp a gate while the rest of the TECH cartel defends your moons. Because its not like PL can atm. Are you an -a- forums alt? I remember going out and sitting on a titan because you were whacking someone's moon.
A PL moon actually, I think. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
729
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Posted - 2012.05.26 05:27:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
~elitepvp~
~poor folks~
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
896
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Posted - 2012.05.26 05:32:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:~elitepvp~ ~poor folks~ ~blobbers~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Zhihatsu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.05.26 05:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:~elitepvp~ ~poor folks~ ~blobbers~ If I may borrow from you. luv2blob
Did we learn how to blob from Remedial? He was a professional blob, after all. Think of the UI change this way, if your mom bought you a really, really nice watch for christmas, but when you opened it it wasn't exactly the one you had wanted, or maybe the face was cracked on accident or it didn't fit. Would you scream in her face, tell her how worthless she is, and demand that she make this right? |
Eso Es
Li3's Electric Cucumber SpaceMonkey's Alliance
15
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Posted - 2012.05.26 05:56:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: why is the income stream gained by some alliances from this condoned by ccp
/Hemmo
So after X alliances defeats Y alliance, takes all their space and tech moons, X alliances hold on technetium is somehow "CCP collaberation"? Seems to me, they defeated the people living there before, now all their loots is belonging to them, its not like CCP just gave them the moons...
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Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
280
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Posted - 2012.05.26 06:11:00 -
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Cheer up. When they add ring mining, you can get Technetium in wormhole space. What, you thought Morphite was coming from belts? All the T2 salvage was from Commander wrecks and players? People actually use RP to get 2K stacks of datacores? |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2012.05.26 06:17:00 -
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ModeratedToSilence wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
they need some way to help Goons, they got caught doin it the old way with T20. This way it legal in game
You know that traderjohn and vuk lau used to milk tech while hoping goons would help them. now they are simply crying because their toys got taken away from them.
(read sarcasm better)
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2012.05.26 06:18:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:See, they were broken up, but they weren't the CFC. The CFC is invincible!
Its not broken, its advanced http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Eve Orwell
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.05.26 07:21:00 -
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DurrHurrDurr wrote:Take a look at the distribution of R64s in regions like Delve/ Querious and some areas of the drone regions. Before the last moon rebalance R64s (excluding Thulium) were the king moneymakers and Delve had more of them than anywhere else by a pretty gross margin.
Lack of balance drives conflict. It sparked great wars over Delve, the DRF northern push, the anti-coalition coalition pushes and the general firestorm that has been Tenal/Tribute/Vale of the Silent/Geminate.
Alliances that want to be rich will move and invade to get rich. Just because -A- isn't as rich as it used to be because of the rebalance has little to do with imbalance (especially considering the previous prices of R64s and the strength of Delve/Querious in that regard) and more to do with the fact that they have spent years in the same handful of regions without shifting their moneymaking schemes. All they've been are the holders of Catch and the presiding landlord of renter slums.
Technetium is not ruining other alliances' income; the other alliances' inability to take technetium (even in neutral areas such as Aridia, Syndicate, Outer Ring, Venal, etc) is what's ruining their income. Rooks and Kings has owned much of the NPC null/lowsec technetium until recently, there's no reason -A- shouldn't be able to wrestle some of it away other than their own shortcomings.
I didnt read past here because I was too shocked at a good DHD post |
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
327
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Posted - 2012.05.26 09:24:00 -
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Eso Es wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: why is the income stream gained by some alliances from this condoned by ccp
/Hemmo
So after X alliances defeats Y alliance, takes all their space and tech moons, X alliances hold on technetium is somehow "CCP collaberation"? Seems to me, they defeated the people living there before, now all their loots is belonging to them, its not like CCP just gave them the moons...
i should have added hugh before income stream. fact is, with a 1.1 trillion isk income a month just from moons anything can be bought on long term. want new allies? why not buy them for 500 bil. need more more supers, why not buy super accounts by the dozens. on long term there is nothing that rly cant be done. the way o.o fights work with reimbursements means that the entity with such a hugh income can basicly reimburse unlimeted amount of ships. where the compeditor cant. the result is a arms/isk race thats out of proportion for everyone exept the big tech holders. dont forget that the reson why they all took them is because they are clustered togheter so much. technetium is the most clustered moon in eve. where there could have been choosen for more spread out r32's with more dynamic sov war, there was choosen for tech. if you look at the moon amounts and where they are located it doesnt make sence at all... why nerf dispro and prom to change it for a r32 thats even worse? only the fact that there are more tech moons present has prevented techmoon becomming the value of 2 prom/disp in the old days.. CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.05.26 14:11:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Lord Zim wrote:See, they were broken up, but they weren't the CFC. The CFC is invincible! Its not broken, its advanced
Thought it was appropriate give its Zim lol http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Alain Kinsella
113
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Posted - 2012.05.26 15:27:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:actually there is a good solution to the bottleneck problem.
all ccp needs to do is to make all the resources necessary for t2 production available on every single moon, but in different concentrations.
it's a pretty tricky numbers game, but as result there is a kind of break even point for every Ressource, where mining on a worse moon becomes a viable option once the possible revenue is more than the associated costs from running a tower.
it's a bit tricky on the numbers side and im not sure if it's desirable from the game design perspective but it's certainly possible to solve the bottleneck problem
I would agree to a change like this only if they replaced the current moon mining mechanic with the PI/POCO one (with either a POS or a POCO planted on a moon, but not both). This would spread the wealth among individuals in Null, and would not seriously impact well-organized entities such as GSF and TEST.
In High-Sec though, you would suddenly have moon PIers fighting to take down various research POS, through wars (and possibly the reverse). Moons suddenly become a more contestable resource, and something worth fighting over (requiring a more balanced corp/alliance to keep things in control - very useful when considering a move to Low or Null space).
Anyway, the original MD thread by Akita T (the one highlighting the issue several months before Dominion hit) had already given the suggestion to properly extend Alchemy. This is a more likely change, and if done right any Null moon will be usable for T2, just not always profitable.
A lot of people are hanging their hat on this 'ring mining' thing, even though it was still an idea at FanFest. That's a very bad move, and CCP's track record is still lackluster regarding the release of new mechanics. Its far more likely that a faster fix will be done through an Alchemy change / rework, since it may be possible to just add and tweak an existing table someplace.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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