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Pulivin Krenensky
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Posted - 2009.08.02 02:38:00 -
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With the big threat of keyloggers on the forums, can AVG Anti Virus (the free one) protect against keyloggers? I also have a good firewall.
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Merouk Baas
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Posted - 2009.08.02 02:47:00 -
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Not sure about AVG, but the firewall won't help. The way these things work, and the reason why [the scammers] want you to click on a link, is because when you click, the computer interprets it as something that you WANT to install, and will let it through.
AVG may give you pop-up warnings, or not.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.02 02:52:00 -
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always kinda wondered do the AV software makers just have workstations that people click on random links and deliberately get infected as possible to test the product and well find any new strains?
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Haakelen
Gallente Nation of Muppets
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Posted - 2009.08.02 02:56:00 -
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AVG is quite unimpressive. Buy NOD32 or get Antivir, which is not quite as good, but is certainly better than AVG. And it is also free. Which firewall, BTW?
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Johann Callasan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Pulivin Krenensky With the big threat of keyloggers on the forums, can AVG Anti Virus (the free one) protect against keyloggers? I also have a good firewall.
Not really, no.
AFAIK, AVG Free Edition doesn't have a process that scans memory regularly, OR a process that monitors application activity unless specifically told to ignore it.
That's usually reserved for the better commercial AV/firewalls - some can detect suspicious activity and alert you to it. Kaspersky, F-Protect, and some others can do that. Trend Micro, McAfee, and Symantec products however are too well known, and too easily defeated, to be of much use anymore.
NOTHING will protect you against blindly clicking through the warnings, however. At all times, it's user-beware - much like in EvE, come to think of it :)
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:04:00 -
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Nothing is going to protect you if you click "yes" on any possible warnings and install the keylogger. Which is basically how it gets into the computer.
"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
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Pulivin Krenensky
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:07:00 -
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I use comodo as my firewall, from tons of research and lots of reviews I came to the conclusion that AVG would be the best free antivirus I could get so not changing that anytime soon. I was just wondering if the free version protects against spyware AKA= keyloggers.
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Haakelen
Gallente Nation of Muppets
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:10:00 -
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Given AVG's poor detection rate, it probably won't do that great if you put yourself in high risk situations. What it finds it will protect you against, for whatever that's worth.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:10:00 -
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Use firefox and the noscript plug. Should safe you from most stuff.
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Pulivin Krenensky
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:18:00 -
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Im using google chrome by the way, I havent clicked any of the links posted by people with names like qasdadsfasdf or something like that but I do frequently browse the My eve section which has lots of links to ingame pictures and stuff, Im worried mainly because I click on the links to the vid's or player made art
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:24:00 -
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It's not a matter of just accidently clicking the wrong link.
It is clicking the wrong link, then accepting the popup that claims it'll update some software on your computer. Just don't trust anything that randomly takes an interest in upgrading software on your computer for no good reason.
"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
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Kolatha
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Posted - 2009.08.02 03:54:00 -
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I've found that AVG, even the commercial version is less than adequate for keeping out the nasties. Early last year I ditched it after it consistantly failed to protect against the google hijack virus that was going around (delivered via acrobat exploit in hidden iframe in an online comic), it refused to even acknowledge there was a problem.
I currently use Comodo. Avast is probably a better antivirus but Comodo comes with other useful protection tools, firewall etc, and I find they don't play too well together.
Use either of these in combination with Malwarebyte's Anti malware and Ad-Aware, they do slightly different things but have a nice overlap and play nicely with other antivirus and firewall software.
With this lot you will be as safe as you can get on a Windows system. However, your first line of defence will always be using your head and not clicking on random links promising girly pics, cheep "enhancers" and other garbage.
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.02 04:03:00 -
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The only problem with Comodo, is the huge amount of false positives you get.
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Seluko
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Posted - 2009.08.02 04:26:00 -
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For people that use Firefox, you should also think about using Firekeeper - http://firekeeper.mozdev.org/
It is a plugin that blocks scripts and other stuff from running. It gains quite a few false positives, but, it will help keep quite a bit of the junk out.
Note: You should still have a good AV.
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2009.08.02 04:31:00 -
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AVG is kind of teh suck. Kaspersky is the best one.
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.08.02 04:59:00 -
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Avast catches it and stops it from downloading. Believe me, I tried it.
Also, a firewall DOES help considering the keylogger will have to phone home at some point. Denying it access effectively makes it useless. It's usually the unprotected machines that get infected.
In speaking of which...I may want to reactivate Avast...
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thesonarnet
Gallente Rukongai Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.08.02 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Cron AVG is kind of teh suck. Kaspersky is the best one.
you have no clue mate, AVG got much better within the last years. If you try one of those online scanner who use nearly every available anti virus scanner on the market on the same file then you will notice that AVG is always within the top scorers.
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machyphy
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Posted - 2009.08.02 07:55:00 -
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keylogger = natural selection in action
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.02 07:59:00 -
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AVAST > AVG, but then AVAST = More CPU hungry and not quite as "Lightweight" as AVG. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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BingBing Betty
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Posted - 2009.08.02 08:04:00 -
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I use AVG free and I've found it to be better than most commercial Antivirus software. It catches more nasties than any other free one I've tried as well. Been using it for years now and never had a problem. It even caught a couple of keyloggers that tried to install themselves last year, however no single solution will protect you against everything, so I also run Norton antivirus Corporate edition alongside it. In general Norton sucks big time but the corporate version is ok as a backup.
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Jenny' JoJo
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.02 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny'' JoJo on 02/08/2009 08:13:13 A keylogger is not always a virus and anyone can create a keylogger that will never show up in virus checkers. Current keylogger technology is so advanced that simply visiting a normal web page in the most updated version of IE or Firefox will get you infected.
There is a WOW keylogger page that is actually a quest guide. So people do not even know they got "hacked". Thats right - just reading the page is enough as IE and Firefox have a major vurnability that is being exploited till IE/Firefox fixes it, which can take a long time. By then, then next new vurnability will be out.
If the keylogger involves some kind of delivery mechanism, sometimes the virus scanner might pick it out. But since when do people keylogger scan webpages?
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.02 08:28:00 -
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i just downloaded the flashplayer.exe from a scammer page and scanned that file whit AVG free, AVG dont detect any virus/keylogger in that file
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2009.08.02 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: thesonarnet
Originally by: Dr Cron AVG is kind of teh suck. Kaspersky is the best one.
you have no clue mate, AVG got much better within the last years. If you try one of those online scanner who use nearly every available anti virus scanner on the market on the same file then you will notice that AVG is always within the top scorers.
It aint better than Kaspersky
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.02 11:11:00 -
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Keyloggers and worms are not viruses so some virus checkers will not detect them. Ideally you need a few programmes, including one that checks just for worms/trojans as well as one for viruses.
I've found my best defence to be Firefox with Noscript as well as common sense.
Using IE is asking for trouble, its bloatware packed full of security holes.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.02 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero AVAST > AVG, but then AVAST = More CPU hungry and not quite as "Lightweight" as AVG.
actually depends of the providers you have activated.
some of them are quite redundant, while the IM, P2P, standart and Web shields are the ones that you must have always activated.
special notice goes to the web shield that stops 99% of the keyloggers, trojans and whatever you can encounter on the internet by scanning pretty much everything on the webpage, but not links, altho it stops you right on the moment you press anything close to shady. ---
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Taram Caldar
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.02 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 02/08/2009 11:26:02 I'm quite a big fan of AVAST myself as far as free stuff goes. But I also highly recommend using Firefox and having the NoScript plugin and the Addblock Plus plugin loaded in it at all times and making damn sure you want to enable scripts from a website before allowing them.
Has saved me many a headache.
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Suneai
Gallente Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.02 11:34:00 -
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I have to add to the votes towards Avast to be the right choice for security. I would recommend turning off the sound effects though, as that alarm that goes off when it finds something really makes you jump when you're dozing off.
Also, as bad as it may sound... Windows Defender has been of some use for me. I wouldn't rely solely on it, but it seems to work well as a back-up.
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Ohhh Matron
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Posted - 2009.08.02 12:16:00 -
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I spend a lot of time uninstalling Kaspersky Internet Suite from customers machines. They find its just too overpowering and in the end it acts more like malware than malware.
I've seen it get so bad that it doesnt want to let folks use their PC anymore.
I either uninstall it and put something less control freakish on or I have to switch off several of the components so they have just the firewall and AV parts running. It makes a PC usable then.
If you arent looking at **** and have a compulsive need to click every popup then for 99% of folks basic AV and a firewall will do.
These internet suites are just there to scare the bejeezus out of joe average PC user.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.02 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 02/08/2009 12:56:13
Originally by: Suneai I have to add to the votes towards Avast to be the right choice for security. I would recommend turning off the sound effects though, as that alarm that goes off when it finds something really makes you jump when you're dozing off.
Also, as bad as it may sound... Windows Defender has been of some use for me. I wouldn't rely solely on it, but it seems to work well as a back-up.
actually, Windows defender + spybot is pretty much enough for spywares and stuff. Add a router firewall, and Avast, and I haven't had a virus infection in... years? ---
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destinationunreachable
Hello Kitty Fanclub
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Posted - 2009.08.02 13:10:00 -
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virus scanner just look out for known code. They will catch any know viruses and some modified forms. If the keylogger is a known one, that has just been used for that specific purposed most will certainly recognize the code and warn you. If the code has been coded specifically and not yet spread (or the anti-virus vendor notified) there is no chance to catch it with any known anti-virus or firewall or whatever.
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