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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:17:00 -
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I don't know about a brick wall.... But wtf are you going on about you idiot.... Can you read ok? You seem to be having a real problem with understanding whats happend here!
1, He mine his own ship, with the help of a friend in his corporation that don't sound like being give anything too me. 2, He was using the ship as a mining ship in 0.8 space, and the first thing he start to mine was money for Insurance by the sounds of it. 3, You don't expect two of his own corporation members to offer him help to finsh off getting your Insurance and then blow up your ship.
So you wouldn't mind if sombody join's your corporation in the future and pod's you when you most vulnerable....hmmmm
Oh..5, Kel Shek, You realy don't have a clue do you, you fool. I'll be seeing you soon n00b. Can't stand people like you.
Don't join a n00b corp :P
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:17:00 -
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I don't know about a brick wall.... But wtf are you going on about you idiot.... Can you read ok? You seem to be having a real problem with understanding whats happend here!
1, He mine his own ship, with the help of a friend in his corporation that don't sound like being give anything too me. 2, He was using the ship as a mining ship in 0.8 space, and the first thing he start to mine was money for Insurance by the sounds of it. 3, You don't expect two of his own corporation members to offer him help to finsh off getting your Insurance and then blow up your ship.
So you wouldn't mind if sombody join's your corporation in the future and pod's you when you most vulnerable....hmmmm
Oh..5, Kel Shek, You realy don't have a clue do you, you fool. I'll be seeing you soon n00b. Can't stand people like you.
Don't join a n00b corp :P
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:19:00 -
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It seams everyone (well most everyone) is kinda missiong the point
2 peoble attacked 2 other peoble FROM THE SAMME CORP the 2 peoble that was attacked was NOOBS (it does not matter what the heck they where flying) the 2 attackers was offering "help" knowing full well that the defenders could not defend them self yet this is not an exploit
I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS
and as useall CCP does nothing does not ban the peoble behind it nor compensate the Noobs and thats the real shame in this story
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:19:00 -
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It seams everyone (well most everyone) is kinda missiong the point
2 peoble attacked 2 other peoble FROM THE SAMME CORP the 2 peoble that was attacked was NOOBS (it does not matter what the heck they where flying) the 2 attackers was offering "help" knowing full well that the defenders could not defend them self yet this is not an exploit
I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS
and as useall CCP does nothing does not ban the peoble behind it nor compensate the Noobs and thats the real shame in this story
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Toastin
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Toastin on 05/10/2004 03:36:18
Originally by: Paw Sandberg It seams everyone (well most everyone) is kinda missiong the point
2 peoble attacked 2 other peoble FROM THE SAMME CORP the 2 peoble that was attacked was NOOBS (it does not matter what the heck they where flying) the 2 attackers was offering "help" knowing full well that the defenders could not defend them self yet this is not an exploit
I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS
and as useall CCP does nothing does not ban the peoble behind it nor compensate the Noobs and thats the real shame in this story
Couldn't agree more
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Toastin
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Toastin on 05/10/2004 03:36:18
Originally by: Paw Sandberg It seams everyone (well most everyone) is kinda missiong the point
2 peoble attacked 2 other peoble FROM THE SAMME CORP the 2 peoble that was attacked was NOOBS (it does not matter what the heck they where flying) the 2 attackers was offering "help" knowing full well that the defenders could not defend them self yet this is not an exploit
I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS
and as useall CCP does nothing does not ban the peoble behind it nor compensate the Noobs and thats the real shame in this story
Couldn't agree more
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Artika
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:28:00 -
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Hello?? Mcfly's?? Wake up people, if they want a bs to PLAY this GAME in, then let them, it's there money. But on another note, i gather the post is about corp mates attacking and blowing up fellow corp mates. I figure there should be a trust between corpmates and any loser who would attack a corpmate just because there jelous or anything just below spying and stealing should really be hunted down by everybody in eve.
Remember, the issue isn't why there in bs's, it's why they corp mates attacked them
My 2 cents
The Evil CA
Artika
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Artika
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:28:00 -
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Hello?? Mcfly's?? Wake up people, if they want a bs to PLAY this GAME in, then let them, it's there money. But on another note, i gather the post is about corp mates attacking and blowing up fellow corp mates. I figure there should be a trust between corpmates and any loser who would attack a corpmate just because there jelous or anything just below spying and stealing should really be hunted down by everybody in eve.
Remember, the issue isn't why there in bs's, it's why they corp mates attacked them
My 2 cents
The Evil CA
Artika
"No matter how good she looks, some guy is sick and tired of putting up with her crap" |
Mech
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mech on 05/10/2004 03:37:48
Originally by: MysticNZ
Originally by: Cleopatera
Originally by: MysticNZ Im sorry, but those guys are idiots.
You don't fly a bs after a month of playing. He deserved to die.
what? Does everyone assume that they wanted to use BS's for combat?? For these guys they were obviously going to be used as money makers for perhaps buying smaller ships, implants, whatever and evolving in the game a little quicker than they would without a battleship to mine in?? I know if i were in 0.8 in a bs and a corp m8 asked if i needed help with anything i wouldnt worry about whether or not he would try to bloody kill me or not. you just dont expect that really and it is very low of the attackers to do that. I hope they get what they deserve.
All you guys saying the miner shouldnt have been in a bs, perhaps, IF he were PVPing or NPCing in low sec space, but he wasn't. So you guys can stfu
How hard is it really? i mean NOT to blame the victim in such a situation??
Don't you see?
If they can't defend themselves in a BS, they should not fly it, end of story. I don't care if there in 1.0 space. They still should of had protection of some kind.
Why is that then MysticNZ, WTF can possibly kill you there 1.0 space apart from your own corp? Regardless of what skills you have train.
You must be stupid too.. Or you agree with joining some ones corporation just with the intend of attacking it's members.
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Mech
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mech on 05/10/2004 03:37:48
Originally by: MysticNZ
Originally by: Cleopatera
Originally by: MysticNZ Im sorry, but those guys are idiots.
You don't fly a bs after a month of playing. He deserved to die.
what? Does everyone assume that they wanted to use BS's for combat?? For these guys they were obviously going to be used as money makers for perhaps buying smaller ships, implants, whatever and evolving in the game a little quicker than they would without a battleship to mine in?? I know if i were in 0.8 in a bs and a corp m8 asked if i needed help with anything i wouldnt worry about whether or not he would try to bloody kill me or not. you just dont expect that really and it is very low of the attackers to do that. I hope they get what they deserve.
All you guys saying the miner shouldnt have been in a bs, perhaps, IF he were PVPing or NPCing in low sec space, but he wasn't. So you guys can stfu
How hard is it really? i mean NOT to blame the victim in such a situation??
Don't you see?
If they can't defend themselves in a BS, they should not fly it, end of story. I don't care if there in 1.0 space. They still should of had protection of some kind.
Why is that then MysticNZ, WTF can possibly kill you there 1.0 space apart from your own corp? Regardless of what skills you have train.
You must be stupid too.. Or you agree with joining some ones corporation just with the intend of attacking it's members.
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Paw Sandberg It seams everyone (well most everyone) is kinda missiong the point
2 peoble attacked 2 other peoble FROM THE SAMME CORP the 2 peoble that was attacked was NOOBS (it does not matter what the heck they where flying) the 2 attackers was offering "help" knowing full well that the defenders could not defend them self yet this is not an exploit
I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS
and as useall CCP does nothing does not ban the peoble behind it nor compensate the Noobs and thats the real shame in this story
They shouldn't. This happens alot.
The corp should deal with this internally. Its not something for CPP.
Quit crying to CPP about every god damm problem.
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Paw Sandberg It seams everyone (well most everyone) is kinda missiong the point
2 peoble attacked 2 other peoble FROM THE SAMME CORP the 2 peoble that was attacked was NOOBS (it does not matter what the heck they where flying) the 2 attackers was offering "help" knowing full well that the defenders could not defend them self yet this is not an exploit
I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS
and as useall CCP does nothing does not ban the peoble behind it nor compensate the Noobs and thats the real shame in this story
They shouldn't. This happens alot.
The corp should deal with this internally. Its not something for CPP.
Quit crying to CPP about every god damm problem.
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:29:00 -
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Why is that then MysticNZ, WTF can possibly kill you there 1.0 space apart from you own corp? Regardless of what skills you have train.
You must be stupid too.. Or you agree with joining some ones corporation just with the intend of attacking it's members.
Because in EVE, anything can happen.
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:29:00 -
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Why is that then MysticNZ, WTF can possibly kill you there 1.0 space apart from you own corp? Regardless of what skills you have train.
You must be stupid too.. Or you agree with joining some ones corporation just with the intend of attacking it's members.
Because in EVE, anything can happen.
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Mech
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Mech on 05/10/2004 03:58:32 Edited by: Mech on 05/10/2004 03:56:12
Originally by: MysticNZ
They shouldn't. This happens alot.
The corp should deal with this internally. Its not something for CPP.
Quit crying to CPP about every god damm problem.
Why is that then MysticNZ, because you say so? LOL who are U to say that, you work for CCP then?
Can't stop laughing here!
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Mech
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Mech on 05/10/2004 03:58:32 Edited by: Mech on 05/10/2004 03:56:12
Originally by: MysticNZ
They shouldn't. This happens alot.
The corp should deal with this internally. Its not something for CPP.
Quit crying to CPP about every god damm problem.
Why is that then MysticNZ, because you say so? LOL who are U to say that, you work for CCP then?
Can't stop laughing here!
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t00r
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:56:00 -
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wow, the thread has slightly deviated from original context. Im sure it was to warn other corp's of these characters in the hope that this type of low down action wouldnt happen to another by the same ppl. If ppl didnt give out warnings then theres a possibility that these characters may harm other corps new players by continuing with thier actions, but.. as it stands now, thanks to the warning thier names have been added to the unwritten virtual list of untrustables. It's this kind of communication that helps others when recruiting/selecting members for thier corp. __________________________________________ 1.9 How can I participate in beta testing EVE? |
t00r
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:56:00 -
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wow, the thread has slightly deviated from original context. Im sure it was to warn other corp's of these characters in the hope that this type of low down action wouldnt happen to another by the same ppl. If ppl didnt give out warnings then theres a possibility that these characters may harm other corps new players by continuing with thier actions, but.. as it stands now, thanks to the warning thier names have been added to the unwritten virtual list of untrustables. It's this kind of communication that helps others when recruiting/selecting members for thier corp. __________________________________________ 1.9 How can I participate in beta testing EVE? |
Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:21:00 -
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--I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS--
The point is not to allow training in combat or to try setups imo. It is to allow for in corporation discipline, if somebody steals, goes loco on TS or in chat or packs his indy full of your BPO then you can kill him. Corp killings allow corporations to police their members better and add an element of realism to the game.
Another useful thing about it is it ensures an element of risk is involved in recruiting members to your corporation and it allows players to infiltrate a corporation and assasinate a member for another player or even for yourself.
The only thing I find wrong with these killings was that they seem to have deliberately killed this guys uninsured ship because it was uninsured and the only reason I can imagine for doing that is because they wanted to cause out of game unhappiness.
That very sad.
Infinity
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:21:00 -
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--I understand why CCP allows us to attack corpmembers with no response from Concord (I have done it many times myself) this is to train peoble in combat or to try setups these 2 cowardly peoble EXPLOITED the game machanics to kill 2 NOOBS--
The point is not to allow training in combat or to try setups imo. It is to allow for in corporation discipline, if somebody steals, goes loco on TS or in chat or packs his indy full of your BPO then you can kill him. Corp killings allow corporations to police their members better and add an element of realism to the game.
Another useful thing about it is it ensures an element of risk is involved in recruiting members to your corporation and it allows players to infiltrate a corporation and assasinate a member for another player or even for yourself.
The only thing I find wrong with these killings was that they seem to have deliberately killed this guys uninsured ship because it was uninsured and the only reason I can imagine for doing that is because they wanted to cause out of game unhappiness.
That very sad.
Infinity
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Brunis
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:36:00 -
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People that fly in what they can't afford to loose deserves to loose it! No matter how new they are to the game!
Sorry if it has when said before.
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Brunis
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:36:00 -
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People that fly in what they can't afford to loose deserves to loose it! No matter how new they are to the game!
Sorry if it has when said before.
/Brunis Another dog lifting its leg |
Toastin
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Toastin on 05/10/2004 04:56:00
Originally by: Kel Shek Edited by: Kel Shek on 05/10/2004 03:07:14 I thought I had implied this detail of that.
they should earn it BEFORE they fly it.
not after.
working UP TO it, gives them experience and a feeling of accomplishment that they earned it, rather than were given it, then worked off a debt.
I much rather mine for a month and then say "wow, I finally have my BS!" than "wow, I finally don't owe a huge debt to my corp" one is alot more *FUN* and enjoyable.
in general its a VERY bad thing to get yourself in debt in a game, because it makes the game into work.
I want to log in and be able to do what I want, and if my setting aside my mining towards my next ship puts it off a day... so what? rather than having my CEO essentially slap me and go "Wheres my money b***?" (if I don't mine the quota for that day's payment, or whatever)
but maybe I'm just funny like that...
why step down from a BS to mine in a crusier, when your skills make the difference in productivity negligible? well if you got blown up like in this circumstance, it would be far less catostrophic to lose a cruiser. and losing a cruiser like that, would set the progress for "owning" the BS back alot less than the difference in mining efficiency.
I'm not being funny... but can you read Kel Shek?
Quote Kel Shek "I much rather mine for a month and then say "wow, I finally have my BS!" than "wow, I finally don't owe a huge debt to my corp" one is alot more *FUN* and enjoyable."
Yes, I agree with you. Do you understand that this is what he did, he mined he own ship, and any help that was given would of been free.
Quote Kel Shek "In general its a VERY bad thing to get yourself in debt in a game, because it makes the game into work. I want to log in and be able to do what I want, and if my setting aside my mining towards my next ship puts it off a day... so what? rather than having my CEO essentially slap me and go "Wheres my money b***?" (if I don't mine the quota for that day's payment, or whatever)
but maybe I'm just funny like that..."
What are you going on about Kel Shek, Who owe's what to who! The person who's battleship was destoryed didn't owe the corporation anything, were are you getting this info from are we reading the same topic?
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Toastin
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Toastin on 05/10/2004 04:56:00
Originally by: Kel Shek Edited by: Kel Shek on 05/10/2004 03:07:14 I thought I had implied this detail of that.
they should earn it BEFORE they fly it.
not after.
working UP TO it, gives them experience and a feeling of accomplishment that they earned it, rather than were given it, then worked off a debt.
I much rather mine for a month and then say "wow, I finally have my BS!" than "wow, I finally don't owe a huge debt to my corp" one is alot more *FUN* and enjoyable.
in general its a VERY bad thing to get yourself in debt in a game, because it makes the game into work.
I want to log in and be able to do what I want, and if my setting aside my mining towards my next ship puts it off a day... so what? rather than having my CEO essentially slap me and go "Wheres my money b***?" (if I don't mine the quota for that day's payment, or whatever)
but maybe I'm just funny like that...
why step down from a BS to mine in a crusier, when your skills make the difference in productivity negligible? well if you got blown up like in this circumstance, it would be far less catostrophic to lose a cruiser. and losing a cruiser like that, would set the progress for "owning" the BS back alot less than the difference in mining efficiency.
I'm not being funny... but can you read Kel Shek?
Quote Kel Shek "I much rather mine for a month and then say "wow, I finally have my BS!" than "wow, I finally don't owe a huge debt to my corp" one is alot more *FUN* and enjoyable."
Yes, I agree with you. Do you understand that this is what he did, he mined he own ship, and any help that was given would of been free.
Quote Kel Shek "In general its a VERY bad thing to get yourself in debt in a game, because it makes the game into work. I want to log in and be able to do what I want, and if my setting aside my mining towards my next ship puts it off a day... so what? rather than having my CEO essentially slap me and go "Wheres my money b***?" (if I don't mine the quota for that day's payment, or whatever)
but maybe I'm just funny like that..."
What are you going on about Kel Shek, Who owe's what to who! The person who's battleship was destoryed didn't owe the corporation anything, were are you getting this info from are we reading the same topic?
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Gadjet
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Brunis People that fly in what they can't afford to loose deserves to loose it! No matter how new they are to the game!
Sorry if it has when said before.
Which has nothing to do with your own corporation members killing you! You Spanner lol
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Gadjet
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Posted - 2004.10.05 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Brunis People that fly in what they can't afford to loose deserves to loose it! No matter how new they are to the game!
Sorry if it has when said before.
Which has nothing to do with your own corporation members killing you! You Spanner lol
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DaOpa
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Posted - 2004.10.05 05:08:00 -
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geez Static Corp Website |
DaOpa
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Posted - 2004.10.05 05:08:00 -
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geez Static Corp Website |
Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2004.10.05 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Toastin As a result of this action, and after chatting with the members that was attacked, it's looking like CCP are going to lose another 2 new customers :( and this is also not the first time I've heard of this happening. I just hope the game don't die off, because this kind of behavior is aloud to continue. If it continues anybody joining the game who is new to eve will not have a chance of ever progressing further :(
The two people in question are "Djens" and "Maestro Feyd" So it's not to wise to recruit them, they more likely to kill fellow members of your corporation than help them, but they are more likely to be a pair of cowards hiding behind there alt's characters :(.
Just letting you lads know out there in the community!... Bye Toastin
I would think the CEO/Directors of your Corp is just as much to be blamed. If you got no serious control on who you let into your Corp, things like this might happen. And with responsible CEO/Directors you would cover your members loss's. If you cant do so through pure isk, then do so by rally around em help them get back what they lost by mining with them etc.
Bad luck losing out like that, but it happens. Might I suggest one of the Cruisers with the 20% yield mining bonus in stead of battleships for mining? At least for rather new members, less expensive to lose and replace.
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2004.10.05 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Toastin As a result of this action, and after chatting with the members that was attacked, it's looking like CCP are going to lose another 2 new customers :( and this is also not the first time I've heard of this happening. I just hope the game don't die off, because this kind of behavior is aloud to continue. If it continues anybody joining the game who is new to eve will not have a chance of ever progressing further :(
The two people in question are "Djens" and "Maestro Feyd" So it's not to wise to recruit them, they more likely to kill fellow members of your corporation than help them, but they are more likely to be a pair of cowards hiding behind there alt's characters :(.
Just letting you lads know out there in the community!... Bye Toastin
I would think the CEO/Directors of your Corp is just as much to be blamed. If you got no serious control on who you let into your Corp, things like this might happen. And with responsible CEO/Directors you would cover your members loss's. If you cant do so through pure isk, then do so by rally around em help them get back what they lost by mining with them etc.
Bad luck losing out like that, but it happens. Might I suggest one of the Cruisers with the 20% yield mining bonus in stead of battleships for mining? At least for rather new members, less expensive to lose and replace.
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
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