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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
904
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:10:00 -
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Croniac wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Croniac wrote:So really, if you want to directly counter Hulkageddon, and other actions like it, what you'd have to do is bore them off the game by bringing endless hours of staring at a rock to them. Then they'd move on to some other game. So... you make them mine, then? The remark was in jest, I was simply saying how absurd it really is. It won't help. People mine while drunk...
Granted, we were roaming in fleets while drunk, but there you have it. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Croniac
Thunder Chickens
17
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:14:00 -
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Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:Croniac wrote:
Idle money making, while it might be the play style for a lot of players, is not what Eve is about. Eve is about struggling to survive.
Too bad that's not what most people are looking for in Leisure Time Entertainment, which ultimately is ALL it is.
I don't think that's what 'most' are looking for from Eve. It might be what a lot are looking for. It might be what you are looking for. And I certainly don't see CCP pushing videos to the internet saying, come play eve, because it's a relaxing place too mine. They push videos of crap exploding to a soundtrack of Swedish death metal. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
933
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:25:00 -
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The Mytanni wrote:
So looking at it this way, it isn't hard to think that in 3 maybe 4 years, everybody is either gonna be a Goon, or will indirectly be working for them.
People said that about BoB and the Curse Alliance too. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
154
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:35:00 -
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The Mytanni wrote:I've decided that the best way to hurt the Goons, is by doing the exact same thing they do. So, i have decided to turn the great amounts of real life money i have, into great amounts of ISK. I will buy GTC's and PLEX, till i have enough ISK to pay for this and trust me, i actually do have the real life financial power to do this.
Here is the plan: 100 Billion ISK for the alliance with the most Goon kills. 80 Billion ISK for the corporation with the most Goon kills ( note: this corporation is the highest ranked corporation, that is not and has not been a member of the highest ranking alliance, during Goonageddon ) 40 Billion ISK for the number 1 ranking player 25 Billion ISK for the number 2 ranking player 10 Billion ISK for the number 3 ranking player 2 Billion isk for numbers 4 to 10. 3 Billion ISK for each player who ganked a POS un Goonswarm Federation null sec space ( only the top 10 damage dealers in each POS gank get the ISK ) 1 Billion ISK for each player who ganked The Mittani each time he's ganked ( only the top 10 damage dealers in each Mittani gank get the ISK )
And as a top stunt, i will offer the alliance that manages to drive Goonswarm Federation out of null sec completely, another 100 Billion ISK, even if that alliance is the top alliance already. cool, which 3rd party will handle the rewards?
I heard shatteredcrystal.com can handle such jobs if you are buying the GTCs through them (just in case you are unhappy with Chribba, Darkness or The Mittani for some reason) |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1349
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:38:00 -
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Moved from EVE General Discussion. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Mark Androcius
88
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:42:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Moved from EVE General Discussion.
ghe ghe, what? i never seen this happen to the Hulkageddon thread.......... If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Mijano
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:03:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Moved from EVE General Discussion. I am as surprised to see that CCP actually moderates this forum, as I am disappointed in you for deleting my posts; however much my examples may have been extreme, they were indeed topic and should never have been deleted, especially not since EVE is built to represent an environment in which individuals are capable of creating a domino-effect of change, just like in the real world. It should therefore not be a problem when I draw examples to real-world wars and paint up a possible future based on human psychology. |
Xenuria
Center Haus Apocalypse Now.
517
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:47:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:PRO-TIP: SAVE YOUR ISK
want to kill goons?
open corporation open wars current wars check the box the says "ally or assistance request" find someone that goons have decced offer assist
THIS!
The Future of GoonSwarm |
Tark Grethor
Shattered Illusion
7
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Posted - 2012.05.26 19:22:00 -
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Chribba said he was a bit busy just now and your to send me the isk to hold instead |
Jakob Anedalle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:22:00 -
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Quote:Idle money making, while it might be the play style for a lot of players, is not what Eve is about. Eve is about struggling to survive. There are already lots of games where you can sit around and do nothing and be rich. The world doesn't need another, and even if it does need another, I'd rather that it not be Eve. Get a gun.
So, wait, why did CCP bother putting the non-PvP roles into the game again? Why do their ads constantly talk about how there there are lots of different ways to play this game.
Just because that's the way you want to play the game... |
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Croniac
Thunder Chickens
17
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Posted - 2012.05.26 21:10:00 -
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Jakob Anedalle wrote:Quote:Idle money making, while it might be the play style for a lot of players, is not what Eve is about. Eve is about struggling to survive. There are already lots of games where you can sit around and do nothing and be rich. The world doesn't need another, and even if it does need another, I'd rather that it not be Eve. Get a gun. So, wait, why did CCP bother putting the non-PvP roles into the game again? Why do their ads constantly talk about how there there are lots of different ways to play this game. Just because that's the way you want to play the game...
Please, take a moment to find me the one that says you are guaranteed safety while doing any of those career paths.
Day one, you log in and you are given a newbie ship, it has a gun, and a miner on it. These are not the red pill and the blue pill, what they are is your introduction to the concept that you will need resourses, AND you will need to defend yourself.
Eve does not provide any mechanism or promise of risk free play. |
Croniac
Thunder Chickens
17
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Posted - 2012.05.26 21:17:00 -
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[quote=Jakob Anedalle]Quote:Just because that's the way you want to play the game...
Actually, you're wrong , I'm a highsec miner mostly, ask around. I am just not foolish enough to think I have been promised safety. |
Spikeflach
Echo's of Liberty Dominatus Atrum Mortis
12
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Posted - 2012.05.26 23:33:00 -
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Not sure you guys actually read the guys post. Whether or not all that isk is given to a third party doesn't matter.
Nobody but the original poster is putting isk into his endeavor so whether or not he makes payout once the time frame is up doesn't matter.
It's like finding an un-scratched scratch ticket on the ground and scratching to see if you win anything. If you get something, great, but if its not a winning ticket, well, you didn't lose anything because you got the ticket for free. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
138
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Posted - 2012.05.27 00:03:00 -
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wondering if all the isk OP is promising will land in goons' pockets or just 90% of it. |
InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.05.27 04:36:00 -
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The Mytanni wrote: I will buy GTC's and PLEX, till i have enough ISK to pay for this and trust me, i actually do have the real life financial power to do this.
So what you're saying here is that goons have griefed you so hard that you're willing to drop real money on us.
Awesome.
I'm guessing your a trust fund baby or inherited your vast wealth, because I just can't imagine someone with the ambition to earn that kind of cash blowing all his time and money on a video game. They usually have far more important things to do.
Croniac wrote: So really, if you want to directly counter Hulkageddon, and other actions like it, what you'd have to do is bore them off the game by bringing endless hours of staring at a rock to them. Then they'd move on to some other game.
We've been in eve for years, we're pretty much immune to hours of tedious boredom. We've even got a whole corp who, as far as I can tell, mine all day every day. In Hulks, since they can do that. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
138
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Posted - 2012.05.27 08:22:00 -
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InternetSpaceship wrote:We've been in eve for years, we're pretty much immune to hours of tedious boredom. We've even got a whole corp who, as far as I can tell, mine all day every day. In Hulks, since they can do that. where can i apply? |
Devore Sekk
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.05.28 05:08:00 -
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I approve of this event and/or service, and will subscribe immediately upon Chribba's confirmation in this thread that funds are received into escrow. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
140
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Posted - 2012.05.28 05:38:00 -
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Jakob Anedalle wrote:Quote:Idle money making, while it might be the play style for a lot of players, is not what Eve is about. Eve is about struggling to survive. There are already lots of games where you can sit around and do nothing and be rich. The world doesn't need another, and even if it does need another, I'd rather that it not be Eve. Get a gun. So, wait, why did CCP bother putting the non-PvP roles into the game again? Why do their ads constantly talk about how there there are lots of different ways to play this game. Just because that's the way you want to play the game...
Every role in the game is PvP. |
Steam Cat
The Skunkworks
3
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Posted - 2012.05.28 14:49:00 -
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Well if he actually wanted to make this happen he could just offer say 50% bounty on api verified kill mail values of both ships and pods (excluding pods worth under X million) making it a losing proposition to just kill alts off. |
Cetaphil Thrace
The Royal Dynasty Stealth Wear Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.28 16:01:00 -
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The best way around this is to just protect yourself. The goons play the game like its supposed to be played, and yes we all hate losing ships, it happens, it sucks we get over it. You need to get over it, the problem is some people dont increase their awareness, or skills to be able to ward off attacks. If you wanna afk missions and mining, you can not complain when you come back and you are at the hospital station needing to update your clone. But the prospect of offering isk to attack them, just dec them yourself, and go in head on, die, and try again, thats what it is all about. |
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The Slayer
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.28 22:46:00 -
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See the reason hulkageddon worked is that the EBIL HORRIBLE GEWNIES actually had the cash to back up their offers. How exactly (besides saying TRUST ME, and believe me I have no issue trusting some random nobody npc corp alt, but others might) are you going to assure that this money is paid out? Chribba guarantee or no kills. |
School Nickname Worldmonkey
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.05.28 23:02:00 -
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Why not up the ante here? Why not just permanently add bounties to goon pilots, based on ship? Anywhere, anytime. As you'll be dealing with pilots who are (arguably) more intelligent than rats, these bounties would have to be proportionately larger.
5m per goon frigate/destroyer; 20m per T2 frigate/T2 destroyer 15m per goon cruiser; 60m per T2 cruiser 30m per goon battlecruiser; 120m per T2 BC; 150m per Strategic Cruiser 50m per goon battleship; 200m per T2 BS 200m per capital ship; 500m and 1bn for supercarrier and titans, respectively.
Bounties could be divided among all players on the killmail, to a minimum of 1m. A frigate kill may cost 20m if 20 people were on the km for instance. Or all players could get a 5m bounty each, getting you more potential players. You just have to put your money where you mouth is, pubbie.
And when you tire of spending actual money to make people lose internet spaceships to goons, maybe you can cry to CCP and beg them to permanently add goon bounties to goons themselves. Maybe 2-4 week rotations between sov holder to make it fair, where their sov/assets are untouchable to compensate.
I'd love it if you paid bounties. I'd never have to leave VFK for ~goodfites~. |
Zain Andreas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.05.28 23:18:00 -
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Do I qualify for repeatedly self destructing a low SP alt? This is important. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
736
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Posted - 2012.05.29 02:55:00 -
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to proof that you take that serious you have to give everyone commenting in this thread 100m a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Ramon Sohei
URSALIS LOGISTICS GROUP Villore Accords
1
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Posted - 2012.05.29 03:33:00 -
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@OP And this is why Goons will win: Because they have a focused event called Hulkageddon. Highly successful because its one very organized, with good marketing, and very motivated people involved.
You are just another person coming up with yet another event like many others. Have you looked up Griefergeddon? I bet not if you are coming up with your own rebranding.
Heaven forbid, if people were to organize themselves into *one* major event ... maybe it can make a difference.
Guess what? It won't happen in the near future because most miners, or miner corps, or for that matter, many of the folks in hisec are only to themselves and won't work together for such an event the magnitude of Hulkageddon.
Hey, If want set it up and get major alliances working together, good luck. EVE would be more fun to many players having more pew pew in hisec. But making more fragmented events and no collaboration is doomed to fail.
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Hellkate Helcat
Elite Aeronautic Developer Syndicate Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.05.29 14:38:00 -
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1/10 for the OPs avatar that has DERP written all over it. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
675
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Posted - 2012.05.30 09:28:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:InternetSpaceship wrote:We've been in eve for years, we're pretty much immune to hours of tedious boredom. We've even got a whole corp who, as far as I can tell, mine all day every day. In Hulks, since they can do that. where can i apply? EVEmail me your API keys for all your toons, and the standard 500 mil security deposit, and I will get you in right away. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Sarah xCalibre
Paradox Collective Choke Point
21
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Posted - 2012.05.30 09:34:00 -
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Ramon Sohei wrote:@OP And this is why Goons will win: Because they have a focused event called Hulkageddon. Highly successful because its one very organized, with good marketing, and very motivated people involved.
You are just another person coming up with yet another event like many others. Have you looked up Griefergeddon? I bet not if you are coming up with your own rebranding.
Heaven forbid, if people were to organize themselves into *one* major event ... maybe it can make a difference.
Guess what? It won't happen in the near future because most miners, or miner corps, or for that matter, many of the folks in hisec are only to themselves and won't work together for such an event the magnitude of Hulkageddon.
Hey, If want set it up and get major alliances working together, good luck. EVE would be more fun to many players having more pew pew in hisec. But making more fragmented events and no collaboration is doomed to fail.
Damn and here I thought Hulkageddon was Heliticy's creation and event. :( Ive deleted this sig 500 times now! - Sarah xCalibre |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
551
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:20:00 -
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The Mytanni wrote:The goons ( and The Mittani in particular ), have made many peoples EVE lives harder then they normally would be and in fact for a lot of people, it's even made it impossible to continue playing the game like they want.
Harder EVE = Better EVE
And the game is definitely not about players getting what they want, but what they can achieve. Hulkageddon is applying a very healthy dosage of Darwin to the miner population, so the not-so-stupid ones remaining can enjoy the increased mineral prices. The low-ends held pretty steady throughout the month (likely in the wake of the drone-nerf hype), but now they are definitely rising.
Which is perfectly fine, because these days it's stupidly easy for everyon to make tens of millions of ISK an hour anyway. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Slider VII
Grey Templars Ushra'Khan
22
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:28:00 -
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I am not a big fan of Hulkageddon myself. But, you need to understand that this is a game, and it's just internet pixels.
If you don't like what someone is doing to your nice shiny ships then move them to another region of space. People are going to do what they are going to do if you like it or not. Just get over it. If you are still wanting to do your mining...then get some overwatch to protect your operations when you are mining.
If you still don't like what is happening then go back to playing WoW...
'nuff said
***EDIT***
Also, if you can't post on your main or afraid then don't post at all... -Slider VII Target Practice anyone?
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