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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.08 21:00:00 -
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Matches 49 through 64
255 valid bets 129 winning bets to be paid out.
Should all be done in about an hour or so.
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Alignat
Premium Blotter
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Posted - 2012.07.08 21:20:00 -
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Thanks, done alot better today. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.08 21:44:00 -
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All 129 wining bets for matches 49 through 64 has been paid out.
Payouts for : B128: Bet on a team making it to the Groups stage. B129: Bet on a team NOT making it to the Groups stage
Will be made once the official schedule for next week has been posted.
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.08 21:56:00 -
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Just some really quick stats for the first 64 matches
951 total valid bets made 501 total winning bets
The winners bet a total of 19.204.000.000 ISK And they won a total of 28.996.000.000 ISK paid out in prizes
Any other stats you'd like to know? |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
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Posted - 2012.07.09 03:00:00 -
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Betting option C136 and D139 are both "vote for a team to get to the semis". Do these options have different betting pools? Just an error? |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.09 16:33:00 -
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The betting _deadline_ is different for C136 and D139 - Hence different pools.
The idea of the "letter prefix" is to make it easy to identify that you're dealing with a different deadline - Even though the outcome you are betting on is identical.
The best/worst example is
B133 C137 D140 A127 (listed in order of deadline)
They are all about predicting who wins the final match (and thus the entire tournament)
But as the deadline is different for each bettype, and timed such that less and less teams are left in the tournament, it ofc gets easier and easier to make the correct prediction.
B133 is harder to get right as 64 teams are still left (deadline over as of this writing btw.) A127 is comparatively much easier to get right as at the time of the deadline (start of the match) there's only 2 teams left.
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Sunny Aegyo
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.10 08:25:00 -
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How does C135 work ? If i bet on a team that we now know won't make it to the groups, do i win ? |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:23:00 -
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Granted "Bet on a team who made it to the groups state, NOT making it to the Finals (knock-out) stage." or "Bet on one of the 32 teams left, NOT making it to the Finals (knock-out) stage."
would be better in line with lawyer language.
But it ought to be obvious... else the bet is rather pointless.
So to answer your question : No. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.11 18:17:00 -
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The schedule have been updated with the matches for the group stages - Match 65 through 112.
Make your bets. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:23:00 -
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With the now published schedule for the group matches, it also means that
Bets B128: Bet on a team making it to the Groups stage. B129: Bet on a team NOT making it to the Groups stage
has been decided.
60 winning bets have been paid out.
B128+B129 : 89 total bets 60 winning bets
B128 62 total bets 43 winning bets Finals odds : 1.19 (19% profit)
B129 27 total bets 17 winning bets
Finals odds : 1.49 (49% profit) |
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.14 21:47:00 -
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Matches 65 through 80
137 valid bets 74 winning bets
All 74 winning bets have been paid out.
Not a lot of betting today - 'bout half of what we've seen all the other days - Strange.
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Reid Mallenfant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.15 00:29:00 -
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i used monocle for some of my bets today to compare the payouts. |
Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.15 04:12:00 -
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TornSoul wrote:Not a lot of betting today - 'bout half of what we've seen all the other days - Strange. One thing that scares me are the rules about teams throwing a match or not showing up. Past history shows this is not something to be taken lightly. Betting on EVE Alliance Tournaments is like betting on pro wrestling. Rigged matches do happen and are applauded (even if they're rare). That's not something I'm comfortable risking a lot of isk on.
Not that there's anything you can do about it, and I think your rules are reasonable in that regard, but the way these things have played out over the years doesn't exactly inspire confidence. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.15 17:32:00 -
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@Swidgen
Thown matches should be more likely at the end of the groups stage though, not on day one.
Ie. at the end, where some teams will have already qualified they could be bought to throw their 3rd match.
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.15 21:17:00 -
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Matches 81 through 96
137 valid bets 69 winning bets |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.15 21:55:00 -
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69 winning payouts done.
OMG nice odd's on the last match (Pandemic Legion/Red vs. Blue) : 12.44 (1244% profit) |
Yakamura Shinzhen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.15 22:15:00 -
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pl vs rote kapelle actually I couldnt believe my eyes when i saw the payout :D |
Sarray en Welle
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
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Posted - 2012.07.16 09:15:00 -
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TornSoul wrote:69 winning payouts done.
OMG nice odd's on the last match (Pandemic Legion/Red vs. BlueRote Kapelle) : 12.44 (1244% profit)
Where can i see the odds?
I made a tiny 2 mil bet yesterday, won, i received 3.8 something million, thanks - but where can i see the odds on your site?
Thanks.. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:13:00 -
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http://at10.big-eve.com/allbets.aspx
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.21 22:48:00 -
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Payouts have been made for
B130: Bet on a team making it to the Groups stage but NOT to the Finals (knock-out) stage. B131: Bet on a team making it to the Finals (knock-out) stage.
C134: Bet on a team making it to the Finals (knock-out) stage. C135: Bet on a team NOT making it to the Finals (knock-out) stage.
Matches 97 though 112
A total of 140 winning bets have been paid out for a total of ~15.3 billion ISK
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BIG Games
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.22 15:00:00 -
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I've made an error....
More text later |
Dark Tobby
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:01:00 -
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12410,00Agony Empire10.000.000 ISK1 1241,09Nulli Secunda100.000.000 ISK1
It should be Nulli vs Exodus.
Please refund my bet of 100mil as i wanna re bet it as the listing is fictive...
FYI; match 125 and 126 is also wrongly listed |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:13:00 -
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Dark Tobby wrote:12410,00Agony Empire10.000.000 ISK1 1241,09Nulli Secunda100.000.000 ISK1
It should be Nulli vs Exodus.
Please refund my bet of 100mil as i wanna re bet it as the listing is fictive...
FYI; match 125 and 126 is also wrongly listed
Huh??
Are you looking at the correct website?
I have Nulli vs Exodus for match 124
And... I have nothing on match 125 and 126 yet as... the teams haven't been decided yet...
EDIT :
Ah wait - You are looking at the "All Bets" page. I can't stop people from making wrong bets - I simply list them. |
Dark Tobby
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:14:00 -
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TornSoul wrote:Dark Tobby wrote:12410,00Agony Empire10.000.000 ISK1 1241,09Nulli Secunda100.000.000 ISK1
It should be Nulli vs Exodus.
Please refund my bet of 100mil as i wanna re bet it as the listing is fictive...
FYI; match 125 and 126 is also wrongly listed Huh?? Are you looking at the correct website? I have Nulli vs Exodus for match 124 And... I have nothing on match 125 and 126 yet as... the teams haven't been decided yet...
It's correct on scedule, but check allbets page that show the real math
Direct copy from 18:16, almost 1 hour after the match
1211,40HUN Reloaded110.000.000 ISK2 1213,02The G0dfathers49.000.000 ISK3 1221,48DarkSide.210.000.000 ISK2 1222,69Pandemic Legion112.000.000 ISK3 1231,18Mildly Intoxicated10.000.000 ISK1 1235,50Verge of Collapse2.000.000 ISK1 12410,00Agony Empire10.000.000 ISK1 1241,09Nulli Secunda100.000.000 ISK1 1261,00Agony Empire10.000.000 ISK1 1271,00Mildly Intoxicated500.000.000 ISK1
Agony is out...win by default? Noone is gonna counter bid my 100mil on a team that is not playing out of fear. So i have nothing to win, all to lose.
Hope BIG has a good solution, refund would be best. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:22:00 -
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When I do the math for the payouts - I remove those invalid bets. It's just too much to keep up with while the matches are going here the very last day.
If you've made a valid bet and there is no (valid) counter-bet(s) - You'll get your ISK back (no fees). |
Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:35:00 -
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BIG Games wrote:TL;DR : I made a brainfart when recording who went on to the finals bracket (and who didnt), as such the payouts for the bets 130,131,134 and 135 got messed up....
This has now been corrected.
20 people have been wired additional ISK - For a total of 504,489,672.04 ISK
Furthermore 6 people have been wired too much ISK - for a total of : 537,889,671.86 ISK As the error is mine, I consider that ISK lost - But have written them all regardless.
Brainfarts suck... Confirming my alt got a payout + additional isk i the 135 category. Suggest you run the numbers again. I calculated what my winnings should be based on your All Bets page and I think you sent too much. My alt did get an evemail about the correction, but didn't say anything about being one of the six who got overpaid.
A big +10 to you guy for being honest (shocked, shocked I tell you!) and trying to do the right thing here. It's got to be a lot of work. I hope your 10% cut makes it worth it. |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.22 22:11:00 -
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Swidgen wrote: Confirming my alt got a payout + additional isk i the 135 category. Suggest you run the numbers again. I calculated what my winnings should be based on your All Bets page and I think you sent too much.
I'm fairly sure I did the correction of the payouts correctly. But please please EVE-mail me your math, just so I can triple check.
Swidgen wrote: A big +10 to you guy for being honest (shocked, shocked I tell you!) and trying to do the right thing here. It's got to be a lot of work. I hope your 10% cut makes it worth it.
Thanks!
The admin fee is mainly there as an "insurance" against screwups like this - Any leftover I usually just give away to the BIG Lottery anyhow.
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.22 23:58:00 -
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Bets 113 through 127 and bets 132,133,136,137,138,139,140 has been paid out
A total of 133 winning bets Total payout : ~25.5B ISK
With these POS forums it's near impossible to post any kind of stats in a sensible manner (ie readable) so please forgive the format...
113 through 127
144 bets 70 winning bets 74 losing bets
B132: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals. B133: Bet on a team winning the tournament. (Not the same as A127, due to the betting deadline)
C136: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals. C137: Bet on a team winning the tournament. (Not the same as A127, due to the betting deadline)
D138: Bet on a team making it to the quarter-finals (8 teams left). New in ATX D139: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals (4 teams left). D140: Bet on a team winning the tournament. (Not the same as A127, due to the betting deadline)
total/winners/losers/final odds 443/63/370
53/28/25/1.15 D138: Bet on a team making it to the quarter-finals (8 teams left). New in ATX quarter finals 12DarkSide. 18Exodus. 25HUN Reloaded 30Mildly Intoxicated 34Nulli Secunda 36Pandemic Legion 55The G0dfathers 62Verge of Collapse
30/5/25/6.77 B132: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals. 54/11/43/2.90 C136: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals. 23/10/13/1.99 D139: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals (4 teams left). semis 18Exodus. 25HUN Reloaded 36Pandemic Legion 62Verge of Collapse
109/2/107/157.00 B133: Bet on a team winning the tournament. (Not the same as A127, due to the betting deadline) 99/3/96/128.73 C137: Bet on a team winning the tournament. (Not the same as A127, due to the betting deadline) 65/4/61/43.26 D140: Bet on a team winning the tournament. (Not the same as A127, due to the betting deadline) winner 62Verge of Collapse
Someone REALLY cashed in on betting on Verge of Collapse - Look at those insane odds. |
Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.07.23 00:20:00 -
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TornSoul wrote:I'm fairly sure I did the correction of the payouts correctly. But please please EVE-mail me your math, just so I can triple check. The thing is, I almost never make calculation mistakes in my favor, so when I saw my payout substantially above what I was expecting I naturally assumed it was your math that must be in error. I derped. Re-doing the calculations shows that yesterday I must have added up AL and/or AW incorrectly. That'll teach me to PVC (player vs calculator) with 2/3 of the light bulbs in the room blown out.
Good job, again, with this. Next year I'll pay attention to the All Bets page before I wager! I also hope a lot more people bet since it makes for more excitement given the potential for higher payouts. |
Sarray en Welle
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
4
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Posted - 2012.07.24 08:51:00 -
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This is to confirm that all bets have been payed out in a few hours..
I betted small amounts, just for fun, and won 5 out of 6.. Not bad
+1 for BIG betting |
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