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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.05 05:35:00 -
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So, startrek online is going into beta, im not a trek fan, but i have a friend that is a HUGE one... im more babylon 5, but he wants me to play it with him when it comes out...
whats ccp going to do to combat this new space mmo... that has walking about already in it.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.05 05:39:00 -
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It's not competition in the least.
It's not PVP-centric at all. It's been awhile since I read the PC Gamer article, but the focus was going around and exploring cool **** with people.
Aside from the fact that both feature internet spaceships, the two games are about as different as Counterstrike and Hello Kitty Online
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.05 05:49:00 -
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not what ive read, there will be a section of 'space for open pvp'
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.05 06:06:00 -
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Nobody except CCP had the balls to make such a heavily PVP-centric MMO and actually get away with it. EVE is safe until somebody with balls the size of the moon and a damn hefty wallet enters the market, which isn't going to be any time soon... at least, no noteworthy contender announced its possible engagement yet.
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Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.08.05 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zurrar not what ive read, there will be a section of 'space for open pvp'
Then it's nothing like EVE at all.
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.05 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Zurrar not what ive read, there will be a section of 'space for open pvp'
Then it's nothing like EVE at all.
your right, but its still competition, look how many people live in empire... the 'safe sandbox'... startrek online is right up their alley...
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Zex Maxwell
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.05 06:55:00 -
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eve wins all
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.05 06:59:00 -
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Many people know play eve because it is the only way to get internet spaceships, another internet spaceship game can be totally different, and still get ccps customers.
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Xikuan
Minmatar New Furia
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:00:00 -
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<insert any of the million other MMO's that are in BETA> is going into BETA, What is CCP going to do to combat this new threat to the very fabric of their plot to take over the world?
Well, nothing. They continue to grow, add features, fix bugs etc.. Why should they suddenly change a winning formula?
I'm a fraking !HUGE! Star Trek fan, but I have no intentions of leaving EVE for it, I don't see why any other trekkie fan that plays EVE would either. IMO it's going to FAIL HARD! Fans will just be expecting too much, sure I may play it for a while, get my jollies maybe, then when it gets abandoned (assuming it ever gets out of beta) it will be as if it never even happened, and will just be another page in Wikipedia on failed Star Trek games.
PS. Jean-Luc Picard was the best captain.
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Artassaut
Minmatar Oblivion Amalgamated
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Xikuan <insert any of the million other MMO's that are in BETA> is going into BETA, What is CCP going to do to combat this new threat to the very fabric of their plot to take over the world?
That's nothing, EVE is still in Alpha. --- The Gate: Lol, try targeting me in a fleet fight. The Station: No U. |
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:27:00 -
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And then Children, all the little PVP enthusiasts who can't stop saying "EVE is PVP!" gathered around to beat the living s...oh hi there!
No MMO is challenge to another MMO 'cause they are...another MMOs.
Just forget it.
EVE won't die.
Might just outlive humanity
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Escobar Noreaga
Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xikuan PS. Jean-Luc Picard was the best captain.
/end
But Star Wars Ships would kick the crap outta those weaksauce Federation Ships. ________
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Kamchak Dicca
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:38:00 -
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I've been keeping half an eye on ST:OL for a couple of years. Yes, I will give it a look when it goes live, I am a big ST fan too. I may even stay with it.
However, I will not abandon Eve.
The one thing that puts me off the ST game, is the potential player base, and reading the forums there, I get the impression that most are 'Simpsonslike Comic Book Store guy' who only get their jollies from deriding people who have something like a life and don't know ST lore to the Nth degree.
Saying that, the game does look interesting, but I suspect that it will end up being more like Pirates of the Burning Sea then Eve, with heavily controlled PvP and nothing like the 'Sandbox' game that Eve is
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Sythyss
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zurrar
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Zurrar not what ive read, there will be a section of 'space for open pvp'
Then it's nothing like EVE at all.
your right, but its still competition, look how many people live in empire... the 'safe sandbox'... startrek online is right up their alley...
no, it's not competition at all. Just because it has a space theme does not mean it it's like EVE in any other way. Akita pretty much summed it up.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zurrar So, startrek online is going into beta, im not a trek fan, but i have a friend that is a HUGE one... im more babylon 5,
http://www.starwreck.com/
Originally by: Zaqar Anyway, you don't have to be Einstein to play Eve - a quick glance over the forums will tell you that -
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.05 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Many people know play eve because it is the only way to get internet spaceships, another internet spaceship game can be totally different, and still get ccps customers.
And in that statement, is truth.
And there is another thing.
A lot of people are familiar with Star Trek, considerably so. I recall back in junior high school there was a game popular at that time that was all about fighting with starships using dice rolls. There was a lot of adaptations from the D&D thing of the 1970s into other areas (Star Trek, plus the other TSR creations like Gamma World, Boot Hill, etc).
Yes yes I am a geek. Let's all laugh about it and get over it.
Would Star Trek online "steal" EvE players away? That is a good question.
I could project/reflect my own ideals and such and claim that how I feel is how everybody feels, but that is typically useless and anecdotal. But it's all I can claim, from my end of things, and some observations made.
Before I get there, I can say that "arbitrary" PVP constraints can be irritating and drive people off (and keep them in EVE). What I mean is, a WOW-like "you cannot attack that target" response to attempting to target something.
But seeing how, having been nerdy enough to have seen many a TOS, TNG, STV, and DS9 episode, a starship captain who decides to blow up a non-combatant target will get dog-piled by his bridge crew. And you won't get far if you got Vulcans with that blasted nerve pinch. You might squeeze off a torpedo or two.
From my perspective and what is observed from other players (opinions in game and forums), a lot of people are not into the game for the direct PVP on the one hand, that being not out looking for a fight, but on the other hand, the game for them is already boring enough if there was no PVP at all. I avoided PVP for a long time out of fear that I would be left sitting there thinking "that's it?" and put it off, doing all other things first. After faction warfare got to be a drag, I was ready to quit this game for a second time, out of boredom.
Then came Apocrypha and exploration. But even now, as WH space becomes Kennified, and the root of exploration fall to lack of missions surrounding it or results for smaller groups by it, that too seems to be trailing off.
So if I can actually beam down to a planet and see some red-shirts get turned into a D12 (those of you who know what a D12 is, don't say anything) by some alien race that nobody has seen before, I might go there.
Star Trek might do what WOW did as far as missions go, making every one of them individualistic and at times "instanced". This is what made WOW such a boring endeavor that it was thus I was driven to the battlegrounds often, mouse in one hand and rum in the other, for some tank and spank because that was not predictable at least.
But Star Trek might also give you the ability to warp a ship from one chosen point, to another, thereby making the game blob and gank proof. Blob and gate camp warfare is just as bad for the alliance pets and corp noobs who get stuck with the job, as it is for the victims of such activities. For every ragequitting carebear, I think there is a boredquitting ganker also headed for the exit. But I think that CCP might be working on the solution for that, with wormholes, no local, and scanning changes becoming the new reality.
In the end, I must drink a nice big cup of STFU and say "I don't know".
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.05 08:19:00 -
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EVE do not need to do anything. As Akita said, EVE is a very PVP centric game, and until anyone dares make something similar, that has real losses (as opposed to non existant loss in WOW) and based around PVP there will be no other games like it.
I myslef am a ST fan, but I dunno, flying around space seeing alot of picard clones sound not as fun :P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Posted - 2009.08.05 08:30:00 -
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The interesting thing for me about Star Trek online is twitch-based combat instead of EVE's ... I guess strategy.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.05 08:33:00 -
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Eve and STO are matter and antimatter. The Federation is the very antithesis of all that is Eve. So any game based upon it is going to be so completely different that it will appeal to a different type of gamer altogether.
There will probably be some overlap for those looking for something different, but they're not really in any sort of competition outside the generic sci-fi level.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.05 08:34:00 -
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eves strategy for pvp is 'get moar ppl in fleet DAMNIT!'
im not a trek fan, in the least, but i more or less *have* to play it... as my friend has been edging me on to do it.
but my question is more centered around the empire dweebs who dont partake in pvp unless they screw up some where... hell, guys in my alliance, been there a while have no kills and only losses where they got tackled in a belt...
i see the carebears leaving eve for ST:O
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.05 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 05/08/2009 08:44:27
Originally by: Escobar Noreaga
Originally by: Xikuan PS. Jean-Luc Picard was the best captain.
/end
But Star Wars Ships would kick the crap outta those weaksauce Federation Ships.
Star trek vs Star Wars
Another Trek vs SW
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.08.05 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Xikuan PS. Benjamin Sisko was the best captain.
fixed your little typo there.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.08.05 09:04:00 -
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wait star treck has game?
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ArmyOfMe
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.05 09:32:00 -
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at worst we might loose a few bears to star trek, and maybe there will be a smaller influx of new players to eve for a while, but thats it.
(none of those are a bad thing imo)
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.05 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: ArmyOfMe at worst we might loose a few bears to star trek, and maybe there will be a smaller influx of new players to eve for a while, but thats it.
(none of those are a bad thing imo)
And at best, we lose a couple of carebear haters to it
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nakKEDK
Gallente tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.05 09:41:00 -
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startrek is gay, so eve wins
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.05 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Nobody except CCP had the balls to make such a heavily PVP-centric MMO and actually get away with it. EVE is safe until somebody with balls the size of the moon and a damn hefty wallet enters the market, which isn't going to be any time soon... at least, no noteworthy contender announced its possible engagement yet.
Then again there is no non-PVP centric internet spaceship game.
If players have a choice, then the vast majority will choose a non-PVP environment. Just like 90% of the players went to live in Trammel back in the old days of UO, with the PVP environment Felucca dying out completely.
Now EVE doesn't have a 90% "carebear" share like UO had because a lot of them simply aren't interested in EVE or already quit due to the PVP or lack of PVE content, but it's still a pretty large portion. I do think EVE has to worry from PVE competitors. ---
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.05 09:42:00 -
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It's a hollywood license tie in. I don't even need to google it to know it's going to be a massive pile of rubbish. I only need to call on the experience of every single game licensed out of Hollywood having been utter drivel pandering to it's 27 going on 12 year old audience.
And then there is "The Problem".
You know the one I mean....
Trekkies. Even if the game had a shred of decency about it, you know there will be a hoard of trekkies jump on it and turn it into a dire analytical ****fest.
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ArmyOfMe
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.05 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
And at best, we lose a couple of carebear haters to it
im no carebear hater, im actually in the middle of a massive bearing period as we speak
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Norian Lonark
Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.05 10:01:00 -
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Once you are hooked with Eve its hard to get away.
The risk, single game world and sheer number of things you can do make Eve so special. Star Trek may look nice and be cool for a few months, but IMO until a mmo comes out with the same depth as EVE and also a single world I cant see myself leaving.
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