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Loki Valis
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Posted - 2009.08.05 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kamchak Dicca The one thing that puts me off the ST game, is the potential player base, and reading the forums there, I get the impression that most are 'Simpsonslike Comic Book Store guy' who only get their jollies from deriding people who have something like a life and don't know ST lore to the Nth degree.
Saying that, the game does look interesting, but I suspect that it will end up being more like Pirates of the Burning Sea then Eve, with heavily controlled PvP and nothing like the 'Sandbox' game that Eve is
As opposed to the elitist attitude found often enough on these forums ... just sayin.
Other then that I agree with you.
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Akor Flandres
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Posted - 2009.08.05 21:49:00 -
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Star Trek Online does have some real nice looking space environments though...
http://kotaku.com/5326397/all-the-star-trek-online-screens-youll-ever-need
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Marty Bones
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Posted - 2009.08.05 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Marty Bones on 05/08/2009 22:27:06
Originally by: Akita T Nobody except CCP had the balls to make such a heavily PVP-centric MMO and actually get away with it. EVE is safe until somebody with balls the size of the moon and a damn hefty wallet enters the market, which isn't going to be any time soon... at least, no noteworthy contender announced its possible engagement yet.
you might want tot take a look at this, must admit its nt sapceships:
http://www.darkfallonline.com
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Trathen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.05 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Loki Valis
Originally by: Kamchak Dicca The one thing that puts me off the ST game, is the potential player base, and reading the forums there, I get the impression that most are 'Simpsonslike Comic Book Store guy' who only get their jollies from deriding people who have something like a life and don't know ST lore to the Nth degree.
Saying that, the game does look interesting, but I suspect that it will end up being more like Pirates of the Burning Sea then Eve, with heavily controlled PvP and nothing like the 'Sandbox' game that Eve is
As opposed to the elitist attitude found often enough on these forums ... just sayin.
Other then that I agree with you.
That's why the release of STO is good news for EVE. The Trekkies that actually hate PvP and just want to fly spaceships and whine about how the fake physics aren't fake real enough will go away... hopefully. _ |
DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.05 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Akor Flandres Star Trek Online does have some real nice looking space environments though...
http://kotaku.com/5326397/all-the-star-trek-online-screens-youll-ever-need
Your standards are low, that's on par with Earth and Beyond.
They're probably using the same crummy environmental techniques as EVE; textured spheres for planets and flat sprites for the rings / nebulae.
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Laruant Wiggins
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:09:00 -
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Hmmm.
Theme Park (STO,SWTOR)
or
Playground (Eve)
I pick playground.
I will play the others but I will be here for a while.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.06 01:28:00 -
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The problem I would have with any other game is the lack of risk. I'm getting addicted to the fact 'everyone' wants to screw me over and is allowed to, while I have many ways to avoid that or even turn it around.
As an ex WOW player for years I never once got the buzz I get from EVE except perhaps when I was doing high level PVP and the result mattered.
I think once players see another game is fun but has no consequences they will miss EVE for all its faults.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.06 03:35:00 -
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Admittedly the crap people pull in EvE does allow you to recognize patterns. EvE is likely the only video game that does not fully let go of the real world. After EvE, everything else feels like watching a cartoon.
The day will come when WOW is looked back as the "AOL of MMOs". Advances in technology are going to make large operations like WOW too expensive against all of the new choices that will arise. Therefore EVE is more like the future of MMOs: less than a million players but a long-lasting game experience that evolves over time. Eventually there will be so many MMOs that everybody will manage somehow to find that kind of game that suits them perfectly. In that way, while many people play EvE and not the other games, and EvE makes no attempt to suit everybody while CCP is not a large company with overhead (and not run by marketers who are all about money).
Most WOW players will eventually find they are playing a game that attempts to satisfy everybody, and that never really lasts long over a course of years. Somebody mentioned in this thread that DAoC is still going. I know people who still play it, and indeed they will keep at it until the lights are out. However we can still count on fingers and toes how many MMOs per genre there are, and leaving out the quick fails, still have digits left over. But look at EvE as the future, and many games like it will be like this: less than half a million players, lots of player driven factors, but a variety of them to suit every need.
When all is said and done, it's good to see that the free market provides choices.
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Siona Windweaver
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Posted - 2009.08.06 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Akor Flandres Star Trek Online does have some real nice looking space environments though...
http://kotaku.com/5326397/all-the-star-trek-online-screens-youll-ever-need
Your standards are low, that's on par with Earth and Beyond.
They're probably using the same crummy environmental techniques as EVE; textured spheres for planets and flat sprites for the rings / nebulae.
Most of those space environment screenshots are way better than Eve. Thats a damn shame though, because in game quality is no where near those. Kudos to Cryptic for modifying screenshots, again.
I think EVE should be worried for the PvE side. There are already huge amounts of people that grinds missions as a full time job in Eve. Most of them aren't very fond of PvP. If they game is a success, i can see large amounts of empire dwellers leaving.
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.06 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Siona Windweaver Edited by: Siona Windweaver on 06/08/2009 05:04:17
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Akor Flandres Star Trek Online does have some real nice looking space environments though...
http://kotaku.com/5326397/all-the-star-trek-online-screens-youll-ever-need
Your standards are low, that's on par with Earth and Beyond.
They're probably using the same crummy environmental techniques as EVE; textured spheres for planets and flat sprites for the rings / nebulae.
Most of those space environment screenshots are way better than Eve. Thats a damn shame though, because in game quality is no where near those. Kudos to Cryptic for modifying screenshots, again.
I think EVE should be worried for the PvE side. There are already huge amounts of people that grinds missions as a full time job in Eve. Most of them aren't very fond of PvP. If the game proves to be a success, i can see large amounts of empire dwellers leaving.
thats what im thinking, faction (LP) stuff will sky rocket in price (YAY), miners and mission runners... main source for the trit in the galaxy will start to fall short (YAY)... hmm maybe, economy wise, ST:O would be good for eve
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.06 11:58:00 -
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EVE Spaceships are best Spaceships. Startrek Spaceships are Girls Spaceships.
Wildfire - New Horizons |
James Vayne
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Posted - 2009.08.06 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Siona Windweaver
They're probably using the same crummy environmental techniques as EVE; textured spheres for planets and flat sprites for the rings / nebulae.
The planets are in the process of being overhauled, I hear.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.06 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 06/08/2009 13:51:44
Originally by: Siona Windweaver Most of those space environment screenshots are way better than Eve. Thats a damn shame though, because in game quality is no where near those. Kudos to Cryptic for modifying screenshots, again.
I can understand them, though: the in-game videos make the graphics look like complete arse. If that's because there's something wrong with the video, I understand that they want to tart things up to compensate; if it's because it does look like that, then they really need to gloss it over somehow… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:21:00 -
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The only good thing about STO is the griefability of the player base.
Hardcore fanboys and, if I'm reading the forums right, furries.
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: James Vayne on 06/08/2009 14:25:05
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 06/08/2009 13:51:44
Originally by: Siona Windweaver Most of those space environment screenshots are way better than Eve. Thats a damn shame though, because in game quality is no where near those. Kudos to Cryptic for modifying screenshots, again.
I can understand them, though: the in-game videos make the graphics look like complete arse. If that's because there's something wrong with the video
no there's nothing wrong with the video. It's simply polished, animated and rendered in an entirely different rendering engine to make it look as polished as it possibly can. This is the computer games industry's version of airbrushing the celebrity.
Yes, it does make the in-game graphics so much poorer for it. But that's just the way it's done.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: James Vayne It's simply polished, animated and rendered in an entirely different rendering engine to make it look as polished as it possibly can.
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Yes, it does make the in-game graphics so much poorer for it.
That builds confidence, let me tell you…
"Hey, we need to improve the looks of this thing for PR purposes — bring out the HQ renderer!!" "OMFGZ, now it looks even worse than before!!"
You know you have a problem when the graphics look more and more like crap the better tech you use to create it. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
James Vayne
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: James Vayne It's simply polished, animated and rendered in an entirely different rendering engine to make it look as polished as it possibly can.
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Yes, it does make the in-game graphics so much poorer for it.
That builds confidence, let me tell youà
"Hey, we need to improve the looks of this thing for PR purposes ù bring out the HQ renderer!!" "OMFGZ, now it looks even worse than before!!"
You know you have a problem when the graphics look more and more like crap the better tech you use to create it.
It's no different from having an affinity for your favourite celebrity because he/she looks oh so beautiful on-screen or in a magazine and then, one day, you meet them in real life and they're not one bit the person they looked liked in their airbrushed pictures. Suddenly you feel let down. Welcome to the 21st century and the realm of the fickle.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: James Vayne It's no different from having an affinity for your favourite celebrity because he/she looks oh so beautiful on-screen or in a magazine and then, one day, you meet them in real life and they're not one bit the person they looked liked in their airbrushed pictures. Suddenly you feel let down. Welcome to the 21st century and the realm of the fickle.
The difference is that the celebrities actually do look good on-screen, unlike these gameplay videos. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2009.08.06 14:56:00 -
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Eve is doomed. When ST online comes out, I am canceling my eleventy accounts !!!11!!
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Nikolay Tesla
Minmatar Nomadic Angels
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Posted - 2009.08.06 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Akor Flandres Star Trek Online does have some real nice looking space environments though...
http://kotaku.com/5326397/all-the-star-trek-online-screens-youll-ever-need
Looks too much like cartoon... Terrible, don't like at all.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.06 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Illwill Bill on 06/08/2009 17:11:12
Originally by: Kurfin Hollywood have managed one decent game, Goldeneye on the N64 was fantastic. It is probably the only one though.
Actually, I found X-wing: Alliance to be an excellent game. It did have several almost-gamebreaking bugs, though.
EDIT: And yes, Golden eye was awesome.
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Akor Flandres
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Posted - 2009.08.06 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Akor Flandres Star Trek Online does have some real nice looking space environments though...
http://kotaku.com/5326397/all-the-star-trek-online-screens-youll-ever-need
Your standards are low, that's on par with Earth and Beyond.
They're probably using the same crummy environmental techniques as EVE; textured spheres for planets and flat sprites for the rings / nebulae.
EVE is my standard and I'd struggle to find any better looking space shots.
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Entreri Finwe
Can't Decide Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.08.07 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill Edited by: Illwill Bill on 06/08/2009 17:11:12
Originally by: Kurfin Hollywood have managed one decent game, Goldeneye on the N64 was fantastic. It is probably the only one though.
Actually, I found X-wing: Alliance to be an excellent game. It did have several almost-gamebreaking bugs, though.
EDIT: And yes, Golden eye was awesome.
Tie-Fighter was (is) god like...some levels was to hard before you got the good ships though...
Originally by: jarack I de-synced in my bathroom once, now i have no where to wash my hands
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