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BugCoder009
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Posted - 2009.08.06 05:33:00 -
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You should also ban those accounts that buy ISK ,not just those that sell it!I think it's the real key!What you have done now is useless.Stop your stupid work right now and get smarter!
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.08.06 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i am your brain on boosters lol
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Rikhard Corentin
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Posted - 2009.08.06 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Rikhard Corentin on 06/08/2009 05:39:57
Srsly. This has been said a million times.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.08.06 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Leave that horse alone!!!! And did you know that this is in fact Surfin's Plunderbunny's forum alt? It's official! |
Alternate Poster
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Posted - 2009.08.06 05:55:00 -
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Nasty ISK seller just has to sacrifice some ISK and send to random innocent users. Innocent users then get banned because CCP has no way of telling if there actually was a RMT transaction outside of EVE.
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente TarNec New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.06 06:00:00 -
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Rikhard beat me to it.
My sig was fail, but now it isn't.
Originally by: CCP Navigator We love you all as well <3
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BugCoder009
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Posted - 2009.08.06 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Alternate Poster Nasty ISK seller just has to sacrifice some ISK and send to random innocent users. Innocent users then get banned because CCP has no way of telling if there actually was a RMT transaction outside of EVE.
Since CCP can tell the sellers,why can't they tell the buyers?
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Kurzhan Suvok
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.06 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: BugCoder009
Originally by: Alternate Poster Nasty ISK seller just has to sacrifice some ISK and send to random innocent users. Innocent users then get banned because CCP has no way of telling if there actually was a RMT transaction outside of EVE.
Since CCP can tell the sellers,why can't they tell the buyers?
If, for example, I wanted to have some fun at your expense I would just need to order some ISK from a known ISK-seller and have the ISK sent you YOU instead of me. Then when CCP investigates and tracks the ISK they will ban you. I know plenty of people that would dump a few weeks of pay to ban whole alliances in the blink of an eye.
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BugCoder009
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Posted - 2009.08.06 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kurzhan Suvok
Originally by: BugCoder009
Originally by: Alternate Poster Nasty ISK seller just has to sacrifice some ISK and send to random innocent users. Innocent users then get banned because CCP has no way of telling if there actually was a RMT transaction outside of EVE.
Since CCP can tell the sellers,why can't they tell the buyers?
If, for example, I wanted to have some fun at your expense I would just need to order some ISK from a known ISK-seller and have the ISK sent you YOU instead of me. Then when CCP investigates and tracks the ISK they will ban you. I know plenty of people that would dump a few weeks of pay to ban whole alliances in the blink of an eye.
I think what you have said is just a technique question.That's what CCP really should do, finding ways to solve it.After all,only banning the sellers' accounts seems useless to stop RMT.
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.06 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: BugCoder009
Originally by: Kurzhan Suvok
Originally by: BugCoder009
Originally by: Alternate Poster Nasty ISK seller just has to sacrifice some ISK and send to random innocent users. Innocent users then get banned because CCP has no way of telling if there actually was a RMT transaction outside of EVE.
Since CCP can tell the sellers,why can't they tell the buyers?
If, for example, I wanted to have some fun at your expense I would just need to order some ISK from a known ISK-seller and have the ISK sent you YOU instead of me. Then when CCP investigates and tracks the ISK they will ban you. I know plenty of people that would dump a few weeks of pay to ban whole alliances in the blink of an eye.
I think what you have said is just a technique question.That's what CCP really should do, finding ways to solve it.After all,only banning the sellers' accounts seems useless to stop RMT.
You are so ****ing stupid its unlikely you even exist at all... --
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 07:02:00 -
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Simple enough solution;
Allow ISK selling.
You heard me!
Allow isk sellers to come in and make accounts, encourage it even.
No more zrttggzzbz etc, just "isk seller x".
Now you can put that seller on block if you wish. No more clicking every single name as tey appear.
Now CCP can track the accounts of those certain isk selling accounts.
Now CCP can ban every single person buying ISK.
Now flame the suggestion
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.08.06 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Allow ISK selling.
What up, Kuole?
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Allow ISK selling.
What up, Kuole?
So far from the truth that it hurts.
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BugCoder009
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Posted - 2009.08.06 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Simple enough solution;
Allow ISK selling.
You heard me!
Allow isk sellers to come in and make accounts, encourage it even.
No more zrttggzzbz etc, just "isk seller x".
Now you can put that seller on block if you wish. No more clicking every single name as tey appear.
Now CCP can track the accounts of those certain isk selling accounts.
Now CCP can ban every single person buying ISK.
Now flame the suggestion
I think it may be a good idea.Any more?
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:20:00 -
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CCP ban the seller so they lose the account, but still have probably profited from the RMT sale overall.
The buyer of the ISK loses the isk, so minimum has just wasted a few dollars and worse case is in neg wallet so screwed.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: BugCoder009 I think it may be a good idea.Any more?
Making ISK buying appear legitimate to sucker in people into buying ISK, then banning them for it is a **** move.
And once certain people figure out that it's a trap, they'll go back to clandestine isk selling accounts, and we're right back where we are now, only some people will have been banned for silly enough to think that the CCP endorsed ISK selling was legitimate.
I'll give that idea a 0/10
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: BugCoder009
I think what you have said is just a technique question.That's what CCP really should do, finding ways to solve it.After all,only banning the sellers' accounts seems useless to stop RMT.
"Police should arrest all the thieves and all the fences. Finding them is only a technique question, what they should should is finding way to solve it".
Is is only some thousand of years that we have thieves and fences and still the police has no found ways to get them all. It is easy to sprout principles, it is hard to implement them in reality.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/08/2009 08:34:45
Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: BugCoder009 I think it may be a good idea.Any more?
Making ISK buying appear legitimate to sucker in people into buying ISK, then banning them for it is a **** move.
And once certain people figure out that it's a trap, they'll go back to clandestine isk selling accounts, and we're right back where we are now, only some people will have been banned for silly enough to think that the CCP endorsed ISK selling was legitimate.
I'll give that idea a 0/10
Who said anything about endorsing selling, or especially legalising it, just don't ban the isk sellers and soon they'll settle in, become accustomed to not getting the boot and become "known isk sellers". People who hate the buy isk adds would block them, people who would buy isk would.
Then get rid of the buyers, not the sellers. (by looking at the sellers)
Sellers eventually see "no profit" and go away.
Let them burn themselves out.
I'll give your reply 1/10, 1 for effort, but -9 for not thinking it through.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Who said anything about endorsing selling, or especially legalising it
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Allow isk sellers to come in and make accounts, encourage it even.
You did.
Can you get over yourself long enough?
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/08/2009 08:48:41
Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Who said anything about endorsing selling, or especially legalising it
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Allow isk sellers to come in and make accounts, encourage it even.
You did.
Can you get over yourself long enough?
That does not mean "encourage isk selling" or "legalize buying isk".
It's about encouraging for the sellers to make accounts by not banning them direct hit.
Still illegal, still illegal to buy.
So, 0/10 once more.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:52:00 -
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i see what the jones is saying. Its not his fault your a ***** with a limited understanding of well, anything.
Let the sellers be legal, make the buyers illegal. Very good solution imo. rig BP sales LDS |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rellik B00n i see what the jones is saying. Its not his fault your a ***** with a limited understanding of well, anything.
Let the sellers be legal, make the buyers illegal. Very good solution imo.
Why would isk sellers make a legitmate account only to have their customers banned, when they could continue making clandestine accounts and have their customers retain their accounts for repeat business?
Either one of you jokers can answer, though, you both deftly avoided it when I mentioned it earlier, preferring to pretend you're smart based on seemingly nothing at all.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:03:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/08/2009 09:03:37
Originally by: Tiny Tove Why would isk sellers make a legitmate account only to have their customers banned, when they could continue making clandestine accounts and have their customers retain their accounts for repeat business?
Either one of you jokers can answer, though, you both deftly avoided it when I mentioned it earlier, preferring to pretend you're smart based on seemingly nothing at all.
Cost effective, delusion of legality, no banning = try legal account.
And so forth.
You think any of these actions should be broadcasted on front page of EVE?
Not very stealthy operation now is it.
By calling me a joker though, if you meant it as an insult, our discussion is over.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tiny Tove on 06/08/2009 09:10:29
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Cost effective, delusion of legality, no banning = try legal account.
And so forth.
You think any of these actions should be broadcasted on front page of EVE?
Not very stealthy operation now is it.
By calling me a joker though, if you meant it as an insult, our discussion is over.
Was some of that supposed to make sense? The correct answer you were looking for was:-
The ISK sellers would make these accounts because they will make money out of every eve player they and CCP sucker into getting banned, and ISK sellers love money. They would also create clandestine accounts to get money out of the people that do not fall for the ISK Seller/CCP trap, because ISK sellers love money.
And the discussion is over, because you can't rationalise what you spouted and you need an exit. Quality > Quantity.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:12:00 -
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Banning an ISK seller means they will make a new account.
Banning an ISK buyer means they will find a new game.
Tell me again; why should CCP ban buyers, and not sellers? You make no sense.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Banning an ISK seller means they will make a new account.
Banning an ISK buyer means they will find a new game.
Tell me again; why should CCP ban buyers, and not sellers? You make no sense.
HEY! Quit thinking!!!
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove And the discussion is over, because you can't rationalise what you spouted and you need an exit. Quality > Quantity.
No, the discussion is over 'cause you can't be polite.
NS.
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Banning an ISK seller means they will make a new account.
Banning an ISK buyer means they will find a new game.
Tell me again; why should CCP ban buyers, and not sellers? You make no sense.
After all buyers are gone(which they should) the sellers will leave.
If there are buyers, there are sellers.
It's simple.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones After all buyers are gone(which they should) the sellers will leave.
Because 100% of ISK buyers will only ever buy from the obvious traps.
Originally by: Sheriff Jones It's simple.
Well something is.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones After all buyers are gone(which they should) the sellers will leave.
If there are buyers, there are sellers.
It's simple.
There will always be new buyers; those ignorant of the rules that make the mistake of thinking buying ISK is ok.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Sheriff Jones After all buyers are gone(which they should) the sellers will leave.
If there are buyers, there are sellers.
It's simple.
There will always be new buyers; those ignorant of the rules that make the mistake of thinking buying ISK is ok.
Depends on the effectiveness of any anti-isk operation.
One less is still one less, hit it hard enough and it'll die due to simple "risk vs reward" rules.
These are only ideas, i'm not working for the CCP afterall.
Other idea was to launch a black ops team of CCP workers who sell isk to catch the buyers.
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