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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:42:00 -
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I think if the ridiculously bad Sheriff Jones idea ever came about, I would definitely create an ISK seller account to make RMT off people, then I would simply send the silly sausage a billion isk and wave him goodbye....
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove I think if the ridiculously bad Sheriff Jones idea ever came about, I would definitely create an ISK seller account to make RMT off people, then I would simply send the silly sausage a billion isk and wave him goodbye....
So what stops you now from sending people billions and giving them negative wallets?
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Tiny Tove I think if the ridiculously bad Sheriff Jones idea ever came about, I would definitely create an ISK seller account to make RMT off people, then I would simply send the silly sausage a billion isk and wave him goodbye....
So what stops you now from sending people billions and giving them negative wallets?
Selling ISK is illegal.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/08/2009 09:53:44
Originally by: Tiny Tove Selling ISK is illegal.
Bad last word syndrome there buddy *pats head*
It still would be illegal, try to understand something before bashing it as bad.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Bad last word syndrome there buddy *pats head*
Obviously it wasn't the last word, but they demonstrated the ridiculousness of your idea so well, that you have no means of refuting it, instead you come up with this nonsense.
I find it likely you will get the last word. But I find it unlikely they will be "ummm, yeah, it was a pretty stupid idea, maybe next time I will think before I post".
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:56:00 -
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Next time when you want to discuss something, try being polite.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/08/2009 09:53:44
Originally by: Tiny Tove Selling ISK is illegal.
Bad last word syndrome there buddy *pats head*
It still would be illegal, try to understand something before bashing it as bad.
And you edit what you put to alter context... well done.
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Simple enough solution;
Allow ISK selling.
Read what you type, stop talking nonsense. Simple solution to all your problems.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:05:00 -
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Ah yes, the good old out of context trick when you run out of insults.
*pats head again*
Good little troll. Fetch! **throws a WiS thread*
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Ah yes, the good old out of context trick when you run out of insults.
*pats head again*
Good little troll. Fetch! **throws a WiS thread*
Again, I showed you up and you hide behind pretending you have the moral ground. It's no big deal. I know you feel embarassed and want to deflect it, that's only natural. But really, the best way is to man up and admit your failings. Growth is important and it comes from within, not from having a few fanboys rally behind you on a forum even when you are demonstrably wrong.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Tiny Tove I think if the ridiculously bad Sheriff Jones idea ever came about, I would definitely create an ISK seller account to make RMT off people, then I would simply send the silly sausage a billion isk and wave him goodbye....
So what stops you now from sending people billions and giving them negative wallets?
Selling ISK is illegal.
Oh ok i thought you meant the "ban isk buyers" Kuole suggested, sorry m8.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove Again, I showed you up and you hide behind pretending you have the moral ground. It's no big deal. I know you feel embarassed and want to deflect it, that's only natural. But really, the best way is to man up and admit your failings. Growth is important and it comes from within, not from having a few fanboys rally behind you on a forum even when you are demonstrably wrong.
If you apologize for the insults, i'll gladly answer your "reasoning".
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Alternate Poster Nasty ISK seller just has to sacrifice some ISK and send to random innocent users. Innocent users then get banned because CCP has no way of telling if there actually was a RMT transaction outside of EVE.
That only work if the people who receive the ISK are ******ed. The rest of us will just raise a petition so the GMs can investigate if the few billion ISK sent from sdkfhlasdf are legit or not.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Tiny Tove Again, I showed you up and you hide behind pretending you have the moral ground. It's no big deal. I know you feel embarassed and want to deflect it, that's only natural. But really, the best way is to man up and admit your failings. Growth is important and it comes from within, not from having a few fanboys rally behind you on a forum even when you are demonstrably wrong.
If you apologize for the insults, i'll gladly answer your "reasoning".
You started by saying "Allow ISK Selling", but changed that to "ISK selling will still be illegal" when you needed to force a perceived win in an argument you have no chance of winning.
With that in mind there is no reasoning to answer. All that is required is that you put away the preconception that because you thought of it, it is right, and the notion that because you used the words, they mean what you want them to mean at the time you want them to mean it, and then you only need to read the words presented by yourself and others. Then it will become clear very quickly.
By the way, "troll" has never once meant "Somebody who disagrees with you in public, even when you are dead wrong", though it has become everybody's favourite definition. Presumably they feel that by saying the word, they "win" something.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Tiny Tove I think if the ridiculously bad Sheriff Jones idea ever came about, I would definitely create an ISK seller account to make RMT off people, then I would simply send the silly sausage a billion isk and wave him goodbye....
So what stops you now from sending people billions and giving them negative wallets?
Selling ISK is illegal.
Oh ok i thought you meant the "ban isk buyers" Kuole suggested, sorry m8.
The dangers of multiple Conversation threads in a single Topic thread. It's a forum weakness, they'll get round to upgrading it to 2003 standards soon I am sure.
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Kratznotzt
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kratznotzt on 06/08/2009 10:19:39 Interesting idea, Sheriff, but I'm afraid that the sellers are smart enough not to fall in that trap. Once they get word that their customers get banned for buying from them, which they definitely would, they most certainly would change their strategy. If not by reducing their semi-legal isk-seller accounts, then by adding a more traditional service by jjfklsjen and other famous players.
I think the only effect from this would be that the semi-legal isk sellers could advertise their product legally, and that their business would increase since they could sell both in the open (to succers who don't read the EULA) and as they are doing now. So no, even though the idea isn't bad the result would not be the desired one.
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Geralden
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:21:00 -
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I've never heard of a worse idea, ever.
Sheriff - the tone in this forum have been extreemly polite - concidering how dumb that suggestion really is.
If we follow your idea - i would gladly buy 20 plex'es, sell them, send isk to various playes... Easy way of getting Privateers and other empire rat's out of the game?
This is "playing eve on the easy mode" and wealthy industrialists would dictate who is, and who isnt playing EVE.
Too bad your are caught up in your "i was INSULTET - im going to refuse to listen to ANY arguments - even though it really really makes me look like a compleate ...."
Hope you get over yourself at some point. Your idea still stinks though.
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Vanzatoarea
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:23:00 -
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well...here`s a little related story
I sent some 700m (GTC money) to my trial account instead of the active account i wanted to pay by mistake . I then realized trial characters cant trade isk in any form , be it direct trade , donation , contract (so how the hell do isk seller trial accounts work?)
I was scared for a while thinking the isk is stuck there with no way of geting it to my mains again , was allmoast ready to activae that account aswell (wth...) then I figured out a simple way to get the job done......
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vanzatoarea well...here`s a little related story
I sent some 700m (GTC money) to my trial account instead of the active account i wanted to pay by mistake . I then realized trial characters cant trade isk in any form , be it direct trade , donation , contract (so how the hell do isk seller trial accounts work?)
I was scared for a while thinking the isk is stuck there with no way of geting it to my mains again , was allmoast ready to activae that account aswell (wth...) then I figured out a simple way to get the job done......
You sold a rocket for 700 million isk?
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Vanzatoarea
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:34:00 -
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meh...a tag (was crucial that mine was the only available one on the market in the system ;
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Geralden I've never heard of a worse idea, ever.
Sheriff - the tone in this forum have been extreemly polite - concidering how dumb that suggestion really is.
If we follow your idea - i would gladly buy 20 plex'es, sell them, send isk to various playes... Easy way of getting Privateers and other empire rat's out of the game?
This is "playing eve on the easy mode" and wealthy industrialists would dictate who is, and who isnt playing EVE.
Too bad your are caught up in your "i was INSULTET - im going to refuse to listen to ANY arguments - even though it really really makes me look like a compleate ...."
Hope you get over yourself at some point. Your idea still stinks though.
Zero tolerance for impolite people, so won't bother with people who will eventually just insult you further and forget the point altogether.
You could buy the plexes and send the isk, but it would show quite clearly that A: you bought plexes(or rather sold them) and B: it would mean you're selling isk for same price as the plex(if not less).
No problem there as CCP would consider an isk seller who sells ISK to get less money quite silly
With my idea the dynamic of;
- Tons of fzzrtg players selling isk.
Would change to;
- We atleast know where they are.
Since as my good friend over there said; "Theyd just make new accounts".
It might not solve it directly or straight away, but it wouldn't hurt.
You're assuming my system would be "direct transfer of isk= isk seller automatically". Which is wrong.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Vanzatoarea meh...a tag (was crucial that mine was the only available one on the market in the system ;
Well good luck. If a GM sees it, he'll be doing cartwheels at getting to ban somebody.
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Vanzatoarea
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Posted - 2009.08.06 10:51:00 -
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so the same would be valid for al those 1mill fire sale Navy Eanm`s going round the clock in amarr/jita?
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BugCoder009
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Posted - 2009.08.06 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Alternate Poster Nasty ISK seller just has to sacrifice some ISK and send to random innocent users. Innocent users then get banned because CCP has no way of telling if there actually was a RMT transaction outside of EVE.
That only work if the people who receive the ISK are ******ed. The rest of us will just raise a petition so the GMs can investigate if the few billion ISK sent from sdkfhlasdf are legit or not.
I agree with you completely.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.06 12:18:00 -
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This thread started out so well. Too bad it was nerfed by someone without the stones to post that they were doing so.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.08.06 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 06/08/2009 12:59:39 RMT will never stop for 3 simple reasons:
- you cant definetly prove it
- (REAL)time, spent in eve for whatever has always its real money value, just like everything
- CCP does RMT in form of legal selling of PLEX and GTC for ISK
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BugCoder009
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Posted - 2009.08.07 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 06/08/2009 12:59:39 RMT will never stop for 3 simple reasons:
- you cant definetly prove it
- (REAL)time, spent in eve for whatever has always its real money value, just like everything
- CCP does RMT in form of legal selling of PLEX and GTC for ISK
The unique reason is that CCP don't really want to stop it, I think.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.07 07:26:00 -
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The only way would be for CCP to sell ISK materialized out of thin air themselves, at prices undercutting all possible ISK sellers.
Of course, it has the nasty side-effect of kinda' screwing up the EVE economy and driving out most people that pay with ISK-purchased PLEX/GTC nowadays, and those that buy ISK get a lot more ISK for even less cash... ...but the ISK sellers are gone, amirite ?
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