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Signal11th
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Posted - 2012.06.21 11:08:00 -
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and just in case you missed it ...No God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
USGAnthrax
Macedonian Phalanx Monkey Circus
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Posted - 2012.06.26 18:42:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No
and just in case you missed it ...No
Just to be sure you get it...!
Oh, and btw : No !!!
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Flakey Foont
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Posted - 2012.06.27 22:47:00 -
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I still want to sell SP for LP |
Lilith Desora
Parallax Shift The Periphery
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Posted - 2012.06.28 17:30:00 -
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Yes!
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I mean, No!
SP should not come from LP, it should come from rats.
Killing one rat should give you its bounty in SP, just like WOW!
WOW was a great game, and it has so much awesome, I wish EVE was as good. |
The Dissident
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.29 03:21:00 -
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I know I'm contributing to the problem here, but could we stop necroing this dumb idea? |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2012.06.29 11:36:00 -
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They need to give extra skill points for the stuff I do.
It's so important that we have every single person do faction warfare and nothing else all the time.
How did ccp not think of that? They need to hurry up and ruin eve for us all. |
Cray47
Gravity Pipe
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Posted - 2012.06.29 11:48:00 -
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dude.
please don't post such suggestions.
how about getting 100 skillpoints for every 100000 ship spins, huh?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
Ron Maudieu
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:49:00 -
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In retort to the OP, how about you lose 10,000 skill points on all of your characters when you make a foolish suggestion. |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.30 17:05:00 -
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I don't need to read through this thread to know its 4 pages of people telling you no. Hopefully at least one person explained to you why it's such a stupid dumb idea, because I am not going to. I am just here to tell you and your ideas are all awful. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.30 17:37:00 -
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Lilith Desora wrote:Yes!
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I mean, No!
SP should not come from LP, it should come from rats.
Killing one rat should give you its bounty in SP, just like WOW!
WOW was a great game, and it has so much awesome, I wish EVE was as good.
Awesome idea! If they do that I only ask that they make the Worgen and Pandaren playable races in Eve! |
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.30 17:41:00 -
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The Dissident wrote:I know I'm contributing to the problem here, but could we stop necroing this dumb idea?
Maybe there is an ISD somewhere? |
Drakarin
Omnitech Corporation Wonder Kids
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Posted - 2012.07.01 07:55:00 -
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Karak Bol wrote:Nope
Would be a boost to mission runners mainly.
You are kidding, right? To acquire two million loyalty points running missions even in low sec would take me months, and I am using a fairly skilled character in a Tengu.
I don't Blitz missions, mind you, but 2 million lp is such a high cost, I wouldn't even consider this as an option.
This idea is great, but naturally for people who have a time advantage over others, they won't support it. Any suggestion that player effort be convertible to enhancing your skills in a direct way is taboo around these parts. Maybe people just don't want the game to be like others. It's too cool to be different for no valid reason. And no, there is no valid reason. This proposal enhances skill training without altering the fundamentals of it. |
Abon
Pandorum Research Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.07.01 15:28:00 -
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oh my god NO! |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.02 16:37:00 -
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I like it. But I want to be able to by SP with ISK too... |
trollerii
Evil Eye corp
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Posted - 2012.07.02 16:41:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:I wish there was an automatic [JUSTNO!] button for every ideas regarding free/exchangeable skillpoints. I truly do.
<3 |
Atra Solis
Tafatt
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Posted - 2012.07.03 03:46:00 -
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Haha, the only way do make this possible, would be to make it so time consuming that you would rather kill yourself then grind that LP after awhile.. |
Mirime Nolwe
the muppets RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:21:00 -
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So terrible.. Lock this please, we have seen enough. |
Virginia Virdana
Envoy Fast Deployment
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Posted - 2012.07.09 22:25:00 -
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Drakarin wrote: This idea is great, but naturally for people who have a time advantage over others, they won't support it. Any suggestion that player effort be convertible to enhancing your skills in a direct way is taboo around these parts. Maybe people just don't want the game to be like others. It's too cool to be different for no valid reason. And no, there is no valid reason. This proposal enhances skill training without altering the fundamentals of it.
You should have understood the mechanic before your free trial ended: No shortcuts. No grind. Just patience and anticipation.
Please insert your own indication of where wow is.
Thank you I don't post often, but when I do, I do it with my main. |
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:19:00 -
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I like this idea and I support it's application. Just make sure that it's effected by the tier system in EVE so that I can finish my 27 year training plan by New Years and I will be happy. |
Sovereign Broker
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.10 20:14:00 -
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Ragnahrock pielut, Rorkwal pielut, Falgun pielut, Reha pielut, Macaramel pielut, Revolasion pielut, Simitar pielut, Protoss pielut, Paladin pielut, Ishtar pielut is ALL SAME PIELUT!!!?
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CAN SAME PIELUT HAZ MAKIN ALL TEH SHIPS?!!!!?
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PERFECKT EVRYFING PIELUTX talking smack in Jita, ONE IZKING YOUR ORDERz!
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MOAR PLEX! MOAR ACHIEVEMENTS!
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So, when are they going to merge shards? Does anyone know yet? |
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Emaleena Rogers
Relapsing
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Posted - 2012.07.12 01:06:00 -
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[Insert J.Jameson's Spiderman 2 kettle laugh here] Let's get to bashing Butts, as well as deeeez nutts. |
Relient Tolemus
Fist of Eargon The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:26:00 -
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You do realize, that grinding LP to get SP is basically just grinding the skill itself right?
Seems a little bit like the opposite of how skill progression in eve is supposed to work. It's also important to remember that this is a signature. |
Night Stalker789
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.12 17:05:00 -
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Relient Tolemus wrote:You do realize, that grinding LP to get SP is basically just grinding the skill itself right?
Seems a little bit like the opposite of how skill progression in eve is supposed to work.
Hit the nail on the head!
Night |
Elsbeth Taron
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.07.13 09:39:00 -
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It's almost worth suggesting ideas like this for the entertainment gained from all the know-alls, 'streetwise' (lmfao!) and generally up-their-own-arse types responding with evermore "I'm soooo clever" reasons why it's a bad idea.
The best ones are the dickheads who just say "no" with no reason why not.
A close second are those who pretend to come up with a reason as an excuse to attempt to display to the reader just how worldwise they are. Usual result is to look like a complete prat.
As a way to kick FW it has possibilities, though I'm not sure a straight LP->SP swap would be the way. It would probably kill the warfare bit of the FW as people would be running mish for the LP.
HOWEVER, having SP as a prize for achieving something FW-related might be an idea. Off the top of my head, something like controlling a system for a day is rewarded. The mechanics would need to be considered but it would make it worthwhile joining the militia.
Regardless of what is implemented, the so-called veterans of the game will hate anything to be implemented that they didn't have when they started to play. "Dinosaurs" is a euphemism for people incapable of adapting to new conditions, so the whining is to be expected. It's not, however, a reason not to consider new things for the game. As I said at the start: at the least it lets us laugh at the whining vets.
Note: not an FW expert |
Signal11th
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:05:00 -
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Elsbeth Taron wrote:The best ones are the dickheads who just say "no" with no reason why not.
Note: not an FW expert
No God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Night Stalker789
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:45:00 -
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Elsbeth Taron wrote:It's almost worth suggesting ideas like this for the entertainment gained from all the know-alls, 'streetwise' (lmfao!) and generally up-their-own-arse types responding with evermore "I'm soooo clever" reasons why it's a bad idea.
The best ones are the dickheads who just say "no" with no reason why not.
A close second are those who pretend to come up with a reason as an excuse to attempt to display to the reader just how worldwise they are. Usual result is to look like a complete prat.
As a way to kick FW it has possibilities, though I'm not sure a straight LP->SP swap would be the way. It would probably kill the warfare bit of the FW as people would be running mish for the LP.
HOWEVER, having SP as a prize for achieving something FW-related might be an idea. Off the top of my head, something like controlling a system for a day is rewarded. The mechanics would need to be considered but it would make it worthwhile joining the militia.
Regardless of what is implemented, the so-called veterans of the game will hate anything to be implemented that they didn't have when they started to play. "Dinosaurs" is a euphemism for people incapable of adapting to new conditions, so the whining is to be expected. It's not, however, a reason not to consider new things for the game. As I said at the start: at the least it lets us laugh at the whining vets.
Note: not an FW expert
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=90449 can see why you agree.....
Why should people who can get on the game more progress with more SP? Hardly fair on ALL the casual players.
You have isk to use as a measure of how well / much you play the game.
Elsbeth Taron wrote:HOWEVER, having SP as a prize for achieving something FW-related might be an idea. Ergo, if you don't FW you lose?
Elsbeth Taron wrote:As I said at the start: at the least it lets us laugh at the whining vets./quote] Trust me, they are laughing at you.
[quote=Elsbeth Taron]It's almost worth suggesting ideas like this for the entertainment gained from all the know-alls, 'streetwise' (lmfao!) and generally up-their-own-arse types responding with evermore "I'm soooo clever" reasons why it's a bad idea.
The best ones are the dickheads who just say "no" with no reason why not.
A close second are those who pretend to come up with a reason as an excuse to attempt to display to the reader just how worldwise they are. Usual result is to look like a complete prat. This is completely useless to anything other than to let people know just how upset you are about your other thread.
On topic - If you could ever grind for SP most of the casual players would quit as they can't compete with people who can stay at home and play eve all day. How it is now, everyone gains at the same rate so it is equal for all. If you want to grind either run level 4's or go play WoW. Either way, do X for SP is never going to happen.
Night
P.s If your looking for my constructive reply it's in bold, just incase you're incapable of finding it. |
Azurius Dante
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
3
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Posted - 2012.07.13 14:12:00 -
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No.
This would force every character to farm LP.
Next you'll come up with an idea like, "Buy SP with ISK" -.- |
Ayeshah Volfield
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.07.13 14:22:00 -
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This feature is already ingame.
You exchange loyalty points and a small amount of isk for learning implants which give a boost to your skill point gain per unit of time. |
CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
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Posted - 2012.07.13 16:47:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Elsbeth Taron wrote:The best ones are the dickheads who just say "no" with no reason why not.
Note: not an FW expert No
No.
And here's why.... |
Alicia Fermi
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.13 20:38:00 -
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I will add to the chorus of "No".
Obtaining new SP for anything other than time would break the skill system of the game. At the moment there are two ways you can increase the rate at which you learn skills: (i) planning; and (ii) risk. You are rewarded for planning out your skill learning by using your neural remaps efficiently, keeping the off-plan skill trains to a minimum. This restricts your training options as a consequence. Or you can risk the use of more expensive implants. If you want to learn a skill faster you either remain docked up or suffer the cost when you are podded.
Of course, a player may wish to exchange their time spent learning skills by selling the character on the bazaar. That is their choice and they pick the price.
So "No". Seriously, no. |
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