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Philip Canning
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:34:00 -
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Hi guys just got a super nice pc and can run like 10 accounts pv eve on it at once so was thinking I'd get isboxer and help menmulti box what I'd like is a dev to post with ccps ya or na on it's use cheers dev peeps
Ps pls tell me yes or no before locking my post yet again cheers |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
793
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:35:00 -
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The answer is yes. As long as you do the controlling, its fine if commands are sent simultaneously to each client. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:49:00 -
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You have to understand that since Sreegs took over CCP has mostly refrained from white-listing tools.
Before, you had them posting blanket statements like "using a G15 won't get you banned", today they will tell you "read the EULA/ToS" and only comment on specific use cases like "I have programmed my G15 to press F1-F8 at once. Is that ok?" or "I have programmed my G15 to keep my strip miner cycling. Is that ok?"
You can use InnerSpace (which ISBoxer relies on) to do very naughty things and it does in fact form the foundation for a couple of bots.
Using ISBoxer for input replication only is probably fine (petition to make sure) but i wouldn't be too surprised if you do eventually get caught in the crossfire between CCP and the bot programmers. |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
293
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:52:00 -
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As mentioned.. file a petition to be sure.. but afaik, using a tool like that, to control 10 accounts at the same time, with you 'behind the wheel' of every one of them, instead of them being totally automated, is ok.
There's some guy out there who runs a 10 tengu fleet to do incursions I believe like that.
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1089
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:52:00 -
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Anyone tried isboxer for bombing?
I've been tempted for a while to train up bombers on a couple more accounts, so I can sit in a system and have fun with 5 manticores, but im not sure how well it all works. Is it just like controlling one screen, or is there more involved that makes it useless for any pvp-style play?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
168
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:53:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Anyone tried isboxer for bombing?
I've been tempted for a while to train up bombers on a couple more accounts, so I can sit in a system and have fun with 5 manticores, but im not sure how well it all works. Is it just like controlling one screen, or is there more involved that makes it useless for any pvp-style play? would be viable
see this video for what ISBoxer can do for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBfmk2yS2c |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
410
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Posted - 2012.05.28 22:26:00 -
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if you are gaining an advantage by making using multiple accounts easier, then that is considered unfair.
If you want 10 accounts, you can work for it, the hard way, as we all would.
But seriously, are you that fail that you need 10 accounts? I WIN plenty with 1 account and 1 toon on it. Why can't you?
So Eve really is PAY to WIN. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1090
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Posted - 2012.05.28 22:41:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Anyone tried isboxer for bombing?
I've been tempted for a while to train up bombers on a couple more accounts, so I can sit in a system and have fun with 5 manticores, but im not sure how well it all works. Is it just like controlling one screen, or is there more involved that makes it useless for any pvp-style play? would be viable see this video for what ISBoxer can do for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBfmk2yS2c Cheers, will have a look I get back home (on 3g atm), would be pretty awesome if this actually works :D
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
269
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Posted - 2012.05.28 22:43:00 -
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Sure isboxer in of it self is fine.
I use it all the time simply cause it handles even 2 clients better then running 2 native eve clients
10 clients good luck with that, I am not that committed to try and run that many clients at the same time. Let alone have to pay for them.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
410
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Posted - 2012.05.28 22:50:00 -
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So if we can make you rage quit we cost CCP 10 accounts, I'm game :) |
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Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
269
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Posted - 2012.05.28 22:52:00 -
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I will say one thing though.
The only people I knew that ran 10 or more clients where 0.0 miners that could control that many things at once cause the roids where big enough to make it practical.
If someone was running 10 clients in high-sec at the same time. That would definitely peak my interest as to what they are doing with them and I would definitely looking to see what else they are running besides ISboxer.
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Philip Canning
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.05.29 13:13:00 -
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well the tengu gang incurtion systle was the main reason, jew some isk and buy all the shiny **** eve has |
Philip Canning
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.29 13:14:00 -
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but the petition is oin just waiting for a reply |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
523
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Posted - 2012.05.29 13:20:00 -
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Came here thinking this post was about men's underwear. I wear boxers. Left dissapointed. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.05.29 14:01:00 -
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I really hope something like this isnt allowed. You shouldn't be able to use macro programs to gain an advantage. . This is no better than botting. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7469
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Posted - 2012.05.29 14:05:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:I really hope something like this isnt allowed. You shouldn't be able to use macro programs to gain an advantage. . This is no better than botting. In order: it is, you aren't, and it is.
The assumption here is that it's made for input duplication, not macroing or botting. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Owena Owoked
Apocalypse Reign
4
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Posted - 2012.05.30 08:36:00 -
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I have never used this tool but I am interested in how it works. After reading some of the wikis on it and the information from the pages I think this would be awesome for me. Has anyone used this in PvP? Have you done multiple jobs in PVP while using it and how does it work out? Normaly I just have a few windows open at the same time and click back and forth from them but if I only needed one window to control them all I think it would be a great advancement to my playing. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
550
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Posted - 2012.05.30 09:39:00 -
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I'd wish CCP just made ISBoxer illegal. It might not be botting, but by transforming the client but it's almost as bad, allowing players to cheat on the consequences for choosing to multibox. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
55
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Posted - 2012.05.30 09:55:00 -
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Yes ISboxer is allowed. I also was interested by this program and petitioned and got the responce that basicaly, as long as you are physicaly inputting the commands then its ok.
On another note, EvE isnt the ideal game to Isbox, its windows and mouse broadcasting/video fx take quite some configuring, Dont get me wrong, it is possible to get a working setup for what ever you need to do, just be aware its a pain to get going properly initialy. That said the Isboxer forums/community are very helpful!
But yeah, its 100% totally legal :)
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saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
55
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Posted - 2012.05.30 09:56:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:I really hope something like this isnt allowed. You shouldn't be able to use macro programs to gain an advantage. . This is no better than botting.
Isboxer is not a macro program. It offers the ability to make keybinds which is no different to the g18 keyboard. Feel free to go and investogate the program, even purchase and use it, you will find no macro system :)
OP i jsut saw your post about the tengu fleet and wanting to "!jew some isk" Yes you can do that. My main and only pointer would be to setup video FX so you can see each characters overview (or important section) and sort overview by name. as doing by distance causes each char to have a different overview and its a pain to co-ordinate fire that way.
Sort by name, remove players etc as that could be costly. |
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Stalafur
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.31 01:31:00 -
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Tried petitioning CCP about this to see if it is allowed because I could really use this for my mining alts... But there's no reply after almost two days. :( |
Philip Canning
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:08:00 -
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Owena Owoked wrote:I have never used this tool but I am interested in how it works. After reading some of the wikis on it and the information from the pages I think this would be awesome for me. Has anyone used this in PvP? Have you done multiple jobs in PVP while using it and how does it work out? Normaly I just have a few windows open at the same time and click back and forth from them but if I only needed one window to control them all I think it would be a great advancement to my playing. i tryed 5 merlin alts didnt go to well lol |
Philip Canning
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:21:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:Lucy Ferrr wrote:I really hope something like this isnt allowed. You shouldn't be able to use macro programs to gain an advantage. . This is no better than botting. Isboxer is not a macro program. It offers the ability to make keybinds which is no different to the g18 keyboard. Feel free to go and investogate the program, even purchase and use it, you will find no macro system :) OP i jsut saw your post about the tengu fleet and wanting to "!jew some isk" Yes you can do that. My main and only pointer would be to setup video FX so you can see each characters overview (or important section) and sort overview by name. as doing by distance causes each char to have a different overview and its a pain to co-ordinate fire that way. Sort by name, remove players etc as that could be costly.
yes i found once you move something its ****** lol, id say pve was the easyway to run this pvp would need some fancy overview setting up on all your accounts and the like, but i found that you need to reformat before you try isboxer for the first time it will help you out then you can add setting as you like.
the windows that eve use and tabs also need to be left do not move them. |
saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
55
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:55:00 -
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There is a option under the Eve escape key list where you can reset all windows to default positions. I suggest doing this and then using the mouse broadcasting to reposition and resize all windows for all accounts simultaniously.
Other than that be sure to check out the ISboxer videos on Video FX ( basicaly small windows which allow you to see a second of another window on your main window, its pretty cool. ISboxed the crap out of hak and slash MMO's. Who needs a party... not me and my army! mwhahhaa |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
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Posted - 2012.07.25 03:17:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:There is a option under the Eve escape key list where you can reset all windows to default positions. I suggest doing this and then using the mouse broadcasting to reposition and resize all windows for all accounts simultaniously.
Other than that be sure to check out the ISboxer videos on Video FX ( basicaly small windows which allow you to see a second of another window on your main window, its pretty cool. ISboxed the crap out of hak and slash MMO's. Who needs a party... not me and my army! mwhahhaa
I have seen dev posts saying it is OK to broadcast mouse clicks, etc. to multiple clients at once, which is easily done with ISBoxer. However, I have not seen dev posts saying that Video FX is OK. Has anyone seen such a dev post?
I have been playing around with ISBoxer and the Video FX feature and think it would be possible to run 100+ account mining operations without too much trouble (provided you have the computing hardware to support such an operation). I just wouldn't want to invest in said hardware if it wasn't allowed.
Perhaps I should petition it. Anyway, has anyone seen such a post? |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
270
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Posted - 2012.07.25 05:44:00 -
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Miilla wrote:So Eve really is PAY to WIN.
Having multiple accounts is not Pay to WIN.
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
192
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Posted - 2012.07.25 05:46:00 -
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CCP would never consider anything a cheat as long as it makes them money.......
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.07.25 05:57:00 -
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Miilla wrote:if you are gaining an advantage by making using multiple accounts easier, then that is considered unfair.
If you want 10 accounts, you can work for it, the hard way, as we all would.
But seriously, are you that fail that you need 10 accounts? I WIN plenty with 1 account and 1 toon on it. Why can't you?
So Eve really is PAY to WIN.
"A bloo bloo bloo, I can only afford one account so noone else should be able to have more than one account."
Oh the tears. |
Ohh Yeah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
212
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Posted - 2012.07.25 06:01:00 -
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It would only take 3 weeks to train 8 accounts into a bare-bones bomber with Bomb Deployment trained.
ISBoxer would be perfect for synchronizing the bombing runs. The potential there is fantastic, since the biggest hurdle in bombing is organizing the fleet properly and making sure nobody screws up. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1062
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Posted - 2012.07.25 06:27:00 -
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I use isboxer for doing anomalies (me +1 alt) and have never had any problems. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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