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Zverofaust
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Posted - 2009.08.14 16:06:00 -
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Last night the destitute and homeless Federal Defense Union and its corporate affiliates launched an unprovoked attack against Tribal Liberation Force assets in the Kourmonen system.
Having no home of their own, it seems the FDU took it upon itself to venture into our territory to vent some of their anger against the Amarr -- and if what the reports suggest is true, they failed miserably. Obviously emotionally strained at their repeated defeats, FDU forces initiated hostilities against myself and then subsequently against other TLF forces who came to my aid, destroying a Maelstrom battleship.
I can not speak for the entirety of the Minmatar militia, but I can say that for myself, effective immediately all pilots involved in this crime will be treated with a KOS status should they venture into Minmatar or Amarr militia territory.
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Mizhara Del'thul
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Posted - 2009.08.14 16:10:00 -
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This has the potential for hilarity... Does the Federation really need more enemies now that it's painfully obvious they are incapable of facing the Caldari without losing horribly?
I am looking forward to seeing an explanation from their side.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 16:19:00 -
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Apparently FDC pilots have also fired on the neutral pilots of ILF in low sec.
Maybe the Caldari have been fat and happy for too long, sounds like the Feds are getting brave again and need a good teeth kickingā
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.14 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Apparently FDC pilots have also fired on the neutral pilots of ILF in low sec.
That has already been disproven as a lie of Yuri Intaki, that so-called "neutral pilot" was fleeting up with the Caldari and assisting in the capture of Gallente strategic sites. Why the Gallente are stupid enough to shoot at the TLF is anyone's guess though.
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Maybe the Caldari have been fat and happy for too long, sounds like the Feds are getting brave again and need a good teeth kickingā
FDU and bravery? Maybe some, in a select few corps and individuals, but not much. ---
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Val Erian
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.08.14 16:52:00 -
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The combat database you link to is very interesting.
For example it shows the top damage dealer on th eloss of your ship was an AMARR SENTRY GUN. second was a sentry gun belonging to an organization called CONCORD.!
Also, in th ecomments section FDU Member Bald Beaver well known to fly often with the Tribal Militia fleets states th eloss was compensated and was a misunderstanding.
My wild guess is that you had engaged in some CRIMINAL actions that casued you to be a target...... amazing what you can pick out from such obscure records. A bit easier since you provided it.
It is also well known that upon enlisting in FDU and/or the Tribal Liberation Force that the 'friendly' militias are not issued "blue" transponder codes for each other, despite the fact of being allies.
Err.... and Tomahawk......ILF misstatements and lies have been easily proved as such. Further these events to place several months ago....so I guess you will have to get worked up about some other things you read on Gal Net.
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Zverofaust
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:09:00 -
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Yes, it is amazing how much information you can get from reading my post -- but you seem not to have caught on.
As I stated clearly, several members of the TLF came to my defense when I was attacked, and yes, some of them obtained a GCC status because of it. The Gallente fleet subsequently tackled this particular ship to prevent it from disengaging (as well as fired upon it).
Oh the glory of information.
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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah FDU and bravery? Maybe some, in a select few corps and individuals, but not much.
This is rather ironic coming from a woman that has shown absolutely no loyalty to any side in the conflict, fighting for at least three separate militias, and whose combat experience generally consists of flying around in a completely unfitted frigate. I am obviously no particular fan of the FDU, but you have no right to criticize them. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/08/2009 17:14:41
Originally by: Val Erian My wild guess is that you had engaged in some CRIMINAL actions that casued you to be a target...... amazing what you can pick out from such obscure records. A bit easier since you provided it.
Don't expect your capitalization of the word CRIMINAL to have the effect you wish it to. The reality of war often brings capsuleer freedom fighters to the neccessity of flagging themselves outside the protection of corrupt concord mechanisms to fight their enemies. If your forces are in the habit of firing on any flagged ships they see you will soon come into conflict with a wide range of organizations many of which might well make you regret the incautious selection of targets.
It appears this matter was resolved satisfactorily with the mistake rectified and apologies made. Lets not make any more of the matter than for those involved to resolve to be more careful in the future.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet This is rather ironic coming from a woman that has shown absolutely no loyalty to any side in the conflict, fighting for at least three separate militias, and whose combat experience generally consists of flying around in a completely unfitted frigate. I am obviously no particular fan of the FDU, but you have no right to criticize them.
I wouldn't expect anything less than slander from Caldari pilots that are clearly jealous of my successes on behalf of the Federation. ---
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Mortant Neros
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:21:00 -
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After a battle with the Amarr we went back to collect loot, saw flashy reds looting our wrecks, so we engaged. Perhaps if the minies had aided us in engaging their enemies we would have known who it was...
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Ammon Dei
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:23:00 -
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This incident has been taken care of and the parties involved have been compensated. In the future it would be good for CCP to place the Allied FW factions under ally status to avoid this in the future.
Till then neutral pilots that are caught looting friendly wrecks will be treated as thieves and SHOT on site. If it is not yours leave it alone, or take the risk and loot away.
Later, the parties involved held a meeting and resolved the issue to the best of their abilities.
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Greg6
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:25:00 -
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The OP is a brilliant piece of BS, from one BS'er to another. Great read, very entertaining and it even contains a grain of truth. Here's the whole kernel;
I was in a Minnie fleet that a Gall friend had invited me to. Now that the Gall have found religion and refuse to plex, the Caldari are hard to find and there were WTs in Ammar space. A Gall militia fleet formed up and headed to Ammar space to find a fight.
When the Galls got to Minn space the Gall FC contacted me and asked me to ask the Minn if they wanted to merge or work together. The Minnie fleet was an anarchy special, no specific FC, and the quick consensus was that they did not want to merge, did not want to work together, and did not want the Galls in their neighborhood. And so both fleets sat in the same system, not talking to each other.
The Galls were boxing in some sniper fit Amarr WTs. And those Amarr did indeed whip us Galls in two fights. After the second one the Minnies warped into the battlefield and started looting Gall wrecks. This ****ed the Galls off. The Minnies had watched while the Gals got owned, refused to cooperate, refused to help, and refused even to share any intell on the WT fleet. Then, they came in and started looting Gall wrecks. The Galls were a ****ed after the whole flow of events and opened fire on the Minnies that had gone GCC and stolen Gall loot.
After the fight we got in a private convo and, I believe, agreed to shake hands, let bygones be bygones, and forget about it. There was plenty of blame to go around, after all, and no need to make a mountain out of this given molehill.
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet This is rather ironic coming from a woman that has shown absolutely no loyalty to any side in the conflict, fighting for at least three separate militias, and whose combat experience generally consists of flying around in a completely unfitted frigate. I am obviously no particular fan of the FDU, but you have no right to criticize them.
I wouldn't expect anything less than slander from Caldari pilots that are clearly jealous of my successes on behalf of the Federation.
I'm no fan of the Caldari but in this case Svetlana speaks the truth. Ankhs cowardice is legendary throughout New Eden and is viewed with distain by many in the Gallente militia. She is not fit to make statements about the bravery of the Gallente pilots when she runs from every fight. She is just another loudmouthed deserter with no class and her ties with the enemy militias show how deep her disloyalty to the federation goes.
Empty vessels make most noise.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Droog 1 I'm no fan of the Caldari but in this case Svetlana speaks the truth. Ankhs cowardice is legendary throughout New Eden and is viewed with distain by many in the Gallente militia. She is not fit to make statements about the bravery of the Gallente pilots when she runs from every fight. She is just another loudmouthed deserter with no class and her ties with the enemy militias show how deep her disloyalty to the federation goes.
Empty vessels make most noise.
You Caldari always have something to whine about have you not? WOLFY is bad because they don't plex, and Ankh is bad because all she does it plex. Make up your mind. ---
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zverofaust I can not speak for the entirety of the Minmatar militia, but I can say that for myself, effective immediately all pilots involved in this crime will be treated with a KOS status should they venture into Minmatar or Amarr militia territory.
It's rather pathetic that you brought his here after the involved parties have reconciled their differences. As Greg6 said, you sat doing nothing and then swooped in and stole loot from your allies.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.08.14 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Greg6 ...the Caldari are hard to find...
Confirming Caldari Fleets are indeed extremely hard to find.
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Zverofaust
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Posted - 2009.08.14 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zverofaust on 14/08/2009 20:51:40 Funny, the Gallente seem quick to want to state that the issue has been "resolved" and all involved parties are "happy" -- it seems more like the Gallente criminals involved are quite happy they got out of Minmatar space in one piece since the nobody involved on the Minmatar side that I've heard from is in any way "satisfied". Infact, I distinctly remember our FC giving the Gallente the one-finger salute as they headed home (half of them in noobships).
Nor was the pilot who was destroyed by these Gallente criminals "compensated by the FDU". He was compensated out of the pocket of one single courageous Gallente pilot (who has flown with us for the past several months and was last night); he has to my knowledge received no formal apology.
As the original victim of this unprovoked and heinous attack, I have not been compensated, apologized to or indeed been shown an iota of decency or respect from these Gallente curs; as their response shows, these communications warriors have no intention of even accepting their role in the attack, instead choosing to immediately accuse me of "thievery".
If that was indeed the case -- you believe I and others in my fleet had taken from your wrecks -- then the appropriate action would have been to convo me or our FC or even initiate communication in local space. Up until the point of your unwarranted aggression I was fully prepared to return the loot to its rightful owners -- a handful of tech 2 small projectiles, a DC2 and other assorted garbage are of little consequence to me. Are the Gallente so impoverished that they would go to war over such pitiful booty?
More than likely, as I have already stated, your pilots' destitute moral and the stress of defeat upon defeat have obviously taken a heavy toll on your fighting ranks. As a Gallente myself, I must say I am both ashamed and embarassed of your pathetic, barbaric and belligerent attitudes.
If you wish to fly in Minmatar space again unscathed, I will be the bigger man, and hereby state I am willing to accept your formal apology here.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.14 20:57:00 -
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I have flown with Bald Beaver and he is an upstanding pilot and FC.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.14 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ammon Dei In the future it would be good for CCP to place the Allied FW factions under ally status to avoid this in the future.
Or maybe just get off the tit, take responsibility for yourselves and conduct your own diplomacy.
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Annie Anomie
Gallente Aenigmata
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Posted - 2009.08.14 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Annie Anomie on 14/08/2009 21:32:46 I don't know the specifics but it sounds like everyone should be a bit more careful if theoretically allied fleets are going to operate in each other's back yards.
Doesn't really need drama bringing here in any event.
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.08.15 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Droog 1 on 15/08/2009 10:45:50
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Droog 1 I'm no fan of the Caldari but in this case Svetlana speaks the truth. Ankhs cowardice is legendary throughout New Eden and is viewed with distain by many in the Gallente militia. She is not fit to make statements about the bravery of the Gallente pilots when she runs from every fight. She is just another loudmouthed deserter with no class and her ties with the enemy militias show how deep her disloyalty to the federation goes.
Empty vessels make most noise.
You Caldari always have something to whine about have you not? WOLFY is bad because they don't plex, and Ankh is bad because all she does it plex. Make up your mind.
I'm not Caldari you spinless whench. I have ties with the Federation that you chose to criricise. While others fought and died for the Gallente you sought to hide amongst them and use the war for personal gain. Your greed, cowardice and sense of self worth is legendary. You have served the Ammar and the Caldari since the conflict started and will prostitute yourself to whichever militia suits your needs at the time. Why should anyone listen to you when you speak of bravery when you are nothing but a mercenary ***** with no spine for combat and no alliegance to anyone except yourself.
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.08.15 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zverofaust Edited by: Zverofaust on 14/08/2009 20:51:40 Funny, the Gallente seem quick to want to state that the issue has been "resolved" and all involved parties are "happy" -- it seems more like the Gallente criminals involved are quite happy they got out of Minmatar space in one piece since the nobody involved on the Minmatar side that I've heard from is in any way "satisfied". Infact, I distinctly remember our FC giving the Gallente the one-finger salute as they headed home (half of them in noobships).
Nor was the pilot who was destroyed by these Gallente criminals "compensated by the FDU". He was compensated out of the pocket of one single courageous Gallente pilot (who has flown with us for the past several months and was last night); he has to my knowledge received no formal apology.
As the original victim of this unprovoked and heinous attack, I have not been compensated, apologized to or indeed been shown an iota of decency or respect from these Gallente curs; as their response shows, these communications warriors have no intention of even accepting their role in the attack, instead choosing to immediately accuse me of "thievery".
If that was indeed the case -- you believe I and others in my fleet had taken from your wrecks -- then the appropriate action would have been to convo me or our FC or even initiate communication in local space. Up until the point of your unwarranted aggression I was fully prepared to return the loot to its rightful owners -- a handful of tech 2 small projectiles, a DC2 and other assorted garbage are of little consequence to me. Are the Gallente so impoverished that they would go to war over such pitiful booty?
More than likely, as I have already stated, your pilots' destitute moral and the stress of defeat upon defeat have obviously taken a heavy toll on your fighting ranks. As a Gallente myself, I must say I am both ashamed and embarassed of your pathetic, barbaric and belligerent attitudes.
If you wish to fly in Minmatar space again unscathed, I will be the bigger man, and hereby state I am willing to accept your formal apology here.
Amarr spy/ aggitator spotted.
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.08.17 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: Frank Monkey on 17/08/2009 08:54:25 Edited by: Frank Monkey on 17/08/2009 08:53:13
Lolz at Zvero and his bah-bah-black-sheep flock of mutton.
To be fair quite a number of the Minmatar Militia pilots aren't worth shooting.
The ammo is worth more than their wretched hides.
However I must admit it gives me particular pleasure to shoot certain individuals, especially those particularly cowardly ones amongst them.
Zvero is a well known "hide behind lots of ships" pilot.
'Zvero hits you doing 0.1 damage'.
You get the picture.
His words and those of his foolish cowardly corp of failure sauce dipped sheep are hollow. They have no strength, no honour.
Shoot them if it gives you pleasure.
It works for me.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
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Farelle
Gallente Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.17 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzzi
Originally by: Ammon Dei In the future it would be good for CCP to place the Allied FW factions under ally status to avoid this in the future.
Or maybe just get off the tit, take responsibility for yourselves and conduct your own diplomacy.
wow I'm agreeing with a member of U'K that would be the first time ever.
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lucifers widow
3rd Kador lancers
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Posted - 2009.08.17 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Farelle
wow I'm agreeing with a member of U'K that would be the first time ever.
Well think how I feel, agree with U'K AND what Jade said !
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.08.17 23:25:00 -
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I think WOLFY upset a few people.. with no valid government it was time to try and find a good fight where ever the legal fight could be had. And we did.. GF mini's. We had to tell you where we were but you did come and in reasonable numbers. We'd love to do that with a carrier in our space, but a cyno is like a light to the pirate moths near by. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2009.08.18 00:37:00 -
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It seems even The Scope has picked up on the Federal Defence Union's most recent woes, concerning this event.
I don't envy whoever it is that will have the misfortune of being Souro Foiritan's successor.
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.08.18 09:16:00 -
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"unpredictable and destabilizing." << we just signed them to our corp... very capable pirates. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Sumerio Rayej
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:23:00 -
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You and The Scope have it right Zverofaust. Those of us in the ILF have known for a long time that the FDU isn't a force that can be trusted.
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Zverofaust
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Zverofaust on 18/08/2009 17:45:13 Sadly, I must again report another incident in which Federal Defense Union members, particularly from the WOLFY corporation, maliciously and knowingly attacked more Tribal Liberation Force assets yesterday, engaging a Tribal fleet and destroying a Rohk battleship belonging to the Royal Order of Security Specialists, one of the most prestigious and respected affiliate corporations in the Minmatar cause, and piloted by one of our Militia's most esteemed fleet commanders.
I would like to say with deep admiration for those Tribal pilots involved that every attempt was made to cease hostilities diplomatically; our fleet commander made several requests for a cessation of hostilities which went unanswered. Despite our unwillingness to open fire, Tribal forces had no choice but to engage the aggressors for their defense and the defense of their comrades.
It is painfully obvious that the political situation within the Gallente Federation has spiralled into out-of-control chaos. While it is not clear who exactly is in control of Gallente militia forces, it is becoming apparent that they are fast turning into a rogue force with no qualms against opening fire against their long-standing allies in the Minmatar Republic. One can not help but question the sanity of turning against the only ally they have left, particularly given their bitter defeat by the Caldari State.
We must also, of course, take into account the possibility that the Gallente government and militia leadership has somehow become corrupted or, worse, infiltrated by their enemies, which may or may not have contributed to their swift and overwhelming defeat against the Caldari and their imperialistic aggressiveness towards the Republic.
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