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Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx Luna Sanguinem
119
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:06:00 -
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Khadann wrote:" PVP is the backbone of eve, it's core, the only feature worth and should be the only reason why players play eve." BLA BLA...
Stop calling it sandbox then.
CCP would not have implemented industry or PVE features if the game was made only for PVP.
I believe EVE is a sandbox mmo before being a PVP mmo, what do you think?
No matter what you do in EVE, you're participating in PvP. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
193
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:21:00 -
[182] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Khadann wrote:" PVP is the backbone of eve, it's core, the only feature worth and should be the only reason why players play eve." BLA BLA...
Stop calling it sandbox then.
CCP would not have implemented industry or PVE features if the game was made only for PVP.
I believe EVE is a sandbox mmo before being a PVP mmo, what do you think?
No matter what you do in EVE, you're participating in PvP.
Only if you define PVP so broadly that it doesn't mean anything any more. This is the kind of crap logic that makes the internet stink. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
584
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:23:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Only if you define PVP so broadly that it doesn't mean anything any more. This is the kind of crap logic that makes the internet stink.
okay how do you define PvP from the perspective of your hulk eh |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
288
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:24:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Simetraz wrote:Richard Desturned wrote: BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH you do: Simetraz wrote:OP how does any of your comments fix a freighter from getting ganked. Or the industrial ship that gets ganked. Or the cruiser that got ganked .
You said you had the fix for ganking but you haven't addressed these very important issues. as you think ganking needs to be "fixed" to prevent ships from being ganked you clearly are precisely the sort of scum referenced there
Yes we have a winner of utter fail here, I will remember to put in the word sarcasm next time just so you don't get confused
CCP set to change build Requirements for Exhumers |
Arabella Khurelem
3
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:24:00 -
[185] - Quote
The better question is what do you define as non-pvp in Eve? |
Arabella Khurelem
3
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:25:00 -
[186] - Quote
Simetraz wrote:Yes we have a winner of utter fail here, I will remember to put in the word sarcasm next time just so you don't get confused
Hey guys, I was only trolling. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:31:00 -
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Arabella Khurelem wrote:Simetraz wrote:Yes we have a winner of utter fail here, I will remember to put in the word sarcasm next time just so you don't get confused Hey guys, I was only trolling.
Arabella how did you get into to this ? Bad enough EvilweaselSA is taking comments out of context from a whole different thread. And didn't have the decency to link the thread. Or are you EvilweaselSA ? CCP set to change build Requirements for Exhumers |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:18:00 -
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I like how people are going on like Mittani hasn't been writing for TTH for the last few years.
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/64805 Updated Sat, Mar 07, 2009
This was published a month after I started playing. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2245
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:24:00 -
[189] - Quote
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/231736/
Reading that article was like reading the ravings of a sanctimonious lunatic suffering from a god complex with delusions of grandeur.
The hypocritical prejudiced statements, multiple fallacy's and blatant lies presented in that article hardly pales in comparison to the amount of biased posturing and distortion of reality presented in this thread by it's overzealous worshipers.
These fanatical Jihad players screaming 'Holy War' keep trying to validate the exploitation of unbalanced game mechanics as an intentional viable aspect of PvP. The constant referencing of generalized examples and debatable specifics is simply an attempt to justify their own actions, nothing more than an excuse for continuous griefing and harassment specifically directed towards players who participate in a certain type of game play activity.
While it seems CCP has turned a blind eye in allowing this issue to develop into the extremely large scale operation it currently is, some people could view that as favoritism, collusion and quite possibly some behind the scenes orchestration. All conspiracy theories aside, this definitely creates free advertisement for CCP through all the various gaming press releases and personal blogs.
Much like the infamous 'Burn Jita' campaign, CCP will probably ride this Rocket and try to spin it into positive press releases with the hope of gaining an increase in subscriptions. However, this premeditated and systematic 'Genocide' currently being conducted could cause that 'Free Press Rocket' to backfire and blow up in CCP's face, more than likely due to players feeling coerced into a Mass Exodus from the game.
There's just too many variables involved to really speculate on the outcome of all this. All the little Jihads and their 'Fallen Messiah' yelling 'Holy War' better watch out that it doesn't come back and bite them in the arse.
One thing is for sure: NOBODY IS SAFE
DMC
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
586
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:26:00 -
[190] - Quote
dmc in da house with bad postin' eh |
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Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx Luna Sanguinem
123
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:26:00 -
[191] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/231736/
Reading that article was like reading the ravings of a sanctimonious lunatic suffering from a god complex with delusions of grandeur.
I feel the same way... About your post. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:29:00 -
[192] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/231736/
Reading that article was like reading the ravings of a sanctimonious lunatic suffering from a god complex with delusions of grandeur.
I feel the same way... About your post.
Careful guys, don't call DMC on his blatant hypocrisy or terrible posting. He likes to report people. |
Revajin
15 Minute Outliers Novus Dominatum
41
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:29:00 -
[193] - Quote
The Overlord is right. Eve is overwhelmingly carebear and all attempts by Goons or any other party to nudge the carebears toward taking a broader approach to the game has been met with hostility. Don't go soft on the high sec hardliners CCP, help to nudge. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:30:00 -
[194] - Quote
DMC was better when he made Stainless Steel cars. Why can't we trade the badposting DMC for the coke dealing DMC? |
Johnny Rook
Requiem of the Sinner
13
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:32:00 -
[195] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Reading that article was like reading the ravings of a sanctimonious lunatic suffering from a god complex with delusions of grandeur.
I got wood. |
Torvin Yulus
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:33:00 -
[196] - Quote
Revajin wrote:The Overlord is right. Eve is overwhelmingly carebear and all attempts by Goons or any other party to nudge the carebears toward taking a broader approach to the game has been met with hostility. Don't go soft on the high sec hardliners CCP, help to nudge.
GO TRY THIS **** IN WOW GRIEFTARF |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
587
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:36:00 -
[197] - Quote
Torvin Yulus wrote:Revajin wrote:The Overlord is right. Eve is overwhelmingly carebear and all attempts by Goons or any other party to nudge the carebears toward taking a broader approach to the game has been met with hostility. Don't go soft on the high sec hardliners CCP, help to nudge. GO TRY THIS **** IN WOW GRIEFTARF
Go play that game then? eh |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:38:00 -
[198] - Quote
Torvin Yulus wrote:Revajin wrote:The Overlord is right. Eve is overwhelmingly carebear and all attempts by Goons or any other party to nudge the carebears toward taking a broader approach to the game has been met with hostility. Don't go soft on the high sec hardliners CCP, help to nudge. GO TRY THIS **** IN WOW GRIEFTARF
What is a Grieftarf? |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:49:00 -
[199] - Quote
Torvin Yulus wrote:Revajin wrote:The Overlord is right. Eve is overwhelmingly carebear and all attempts by Goons or any other party to nudge the carebears toward taking a broader approach to the game has been met with hostility. Don't go soft on the high sec hardliners CCP, help to nudge. GO TRY THIS **** IN WOW GRIEFTARF WTF?
I TYPZ COMPLEETLE RANDOMZ **** IN ALL CAPZ TOO! |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:53:00 -
[200] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/231736/
Reading that article was like reading the ravings of a sanctimonious lunatic suffering from a god complex with delusions of grandeur.
The hypocritical prejudiced statements, multiple fallacy's and blatant lies presented in that article hardly pales in comparison to the amount of biased posturing and distortion of reality presented in this thread by it's overzealous worshipers.
These fanatical Jihad players screaming 'Holy War' keep trying to validate the exploitation of unbalanced game mechanics as an intentional viable aspect of PvP. The constant referencing of generalized examples and debatable specifics is simply an attempt to justify their own actions, nothing more than an excuse for continuous griefing and harassment specifically directed towards players who participate in a certain type of game play activity.
While it seems CCP has turned a blind eye in allowing this issue to develop into the extremely large scale operation it currently is, some people could view that as favoritism, collusion and quite possibly some behind the scenes orchestration. All conspiracy theories aside, this definitely creates free advertisement for CCP through all the various gaming press releases and personal blogs.
Much like the infamous 'Burn Jita' campaign, CCP will probably ride this Rocket and try to spin it into positive press releases with the hope of gaining an increase in subscriptions. However, this premeditated and systematic 'Genocide' currently being conducted could cause that 'Free Press Rocket' to backfire and blow up in CCP's face, more than likely due to players feeling coerced into a Mass Exodus from the game.
There's just too many variables involved to really speculate on the outcome of all this. All the little Jihads and their 'Fallen Messiah' yelling 'Holy War' better watch out that it doesn't come back and bite them in the arse.
One thing is for sure: NOBODY IS SAFE
DMC
Thank god you signed your post, if you hadn't I would not have known it was you posting it. |
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Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
133
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Posted - 2012.05.31 04:10:00 -
[201] - Quote
Because goonswarm is totally the most dangerous corp to be in. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
902
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Posted - 2012.05.31 05:20:00 -
[202] - Quote
Jayrendo Karr wrote:Because goonswarm is totally the most dangerous corp to be in.
To be fair, if we **** up, someone tends to send out a notification on the Goonswarm Instant Message app and 5000+ people instantly know about it. And if we REALLY **** up, said Instant Message app involves people forming a posse to kick the everloving **** out of us to make us learn. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
349
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Posted - 2012.05.31 05:21:00 -
[203] - Quote
Jayrendo Karr wrote:Because goonswarm is totally the most dangerous corp to be in.
DBRB fleets have a high suicide rate. |
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2012.05.31 05:22:00 -
[204] - Quote
You guys who are threatening to quit, you do realize that if you quit, your Isk/hr goes down to 0, right?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
980
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Posted - 2012.05.31 06:43:00 -
[205] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Jayrendo Karr wrote:Because goonswarm is totally the most dangerous corp to be in. DBRB fleets have a high suicide rate. I... oh no.
Oh no, I remember it all now, the horrible jokes, the stories ahhhh~~~
Xython wrote:Jayrendo Karr wrote:Because goonswarm is totally the most dangerous corp to be in. To be fair, if we **** up, someone tends to send out a notification on the Goonswarm Instant Message app and 5000+ people instantly know about it. And if we REALLY **** up, said Instant Message app involves people forming a posse to kick the everloving **** out of us to make us learn. Like when someone hotdrops you because you weren't watching local or intel. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:47:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:seany1212 wrote:Lexmana wrote:nat longshot wrote:Mittani's lucky they did not permaban his sry butt months ago. keep push ccp and beat it will happen. But for now ill sit back and get a tub of popcorn and watch.
Mittani's times is comeing i can feel it. So is goons. Wow. If you can't beat him in-game you are hoping that CCP will permaban him? Is this the kind of game you want to play? Unfortunately there are becoming more of these players... I thought it was a very good article representing the way ive viewed eve for a while and ive only been playing since 08, god knows how those who've been playing years before me view the game as now. For those bleeting that suicide ganking is easy, its only easy because you make it so. As for the reprocusions i went from practically 0 security status to -4.2 for 2 hulks, a retriever and a pod in 0.5 and 0.6 spaces. I now can only go in 0.5 and below and if i dipped below -5 im shootable anywhere in space. I fail to see how that isnt just rewards. Then again there are people bleeting to ban others for not playing to their gamestyle... You should push to just ban all the goons. Heck the whole CFC, why not since you're at it. I mean, threads have already been made on this subject, people will seriously repond to it. Of course goons will as well, because we all need our laughs, but that's the harsh world of the EVEO General Discussion forum. AS a whole i dont have a problem with gonos your leader on the other hand i have a problem with drunk or not at fanfest he done wrong and got nailed for it but hes think he was thrown under a bus come on goons for your leader and his big mouth would you follow a moron like that in the real world hell no.
I was in the army if my CO made a order like that i would trun his butt in and hang him out to dry. But its a game and you think what he wanted done is ok your the fool allso then.
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Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
40
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:23:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote: If ganking a miner is PVP then punching your grandma is a fistfight. Make all the excuses you want. It's not combat. It's a sucker punch. You like giving people sucker punches. That's who you are.
Although irrelevant to the thread, I must say that my old grandma could lift a pig of respectable frame under each arm. Leaving aside that punching her today would require a shovel and a map, nobody COULD punch her in her time.
A woman that could put a cow to sleep with a lighthearted slap past 60, she was.
Also, no, I don't like giving people sucker punches. BUT, when I share a game with other OPPONENTS, I'd rather "win". I want their resources in my wallet, or destroyed.
And this does not make me a terrible person, or a psycopath. We're playing a spaceships game where fun can be obtained by making other spaceships explode. So, as a result, spaceships are forced to explode.
That doesn't mean I'd steal your car in real life, or kick your toddler on the face, even if I could get away with it.
Because they are not playing a game with me, see? |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
508
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:37:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:seany1212 wrote:Lexmana wrote:nat longshot wrote:Mittani's lucky they did not permaban his sry butt months ago. keep push ccp and beat it will happen. But for now ill sit back and get a tub of popcorn and watch.
Mittani's times is comeing i can feel it. So is goons. Wow. If you can't beat him in-game you are hoping that CCP will permaban him? Is this the kind of game you want to play? Unfortunately there are becoming more of these players... I thought it was a very good article representing the way ive viewed eve for a while and ive only been playing since 08, god knows how those who've been playing years before me view the game as now. For those bleeting that suicide ganking is easy, its only easy because you make it so. As for the reprocusions i went from practically 0 security status to -4.2 for 2 hulks, a retriever and a pod in 0.5 and 0.6 spaces. I now can only go in 0.5 and below and if i dipped below -5 im shootable anywhere in space. I fail to see how that isnt just rewards. Then again there are people bleeting to ban others for not playing to their gamestyle... You should push to just ban all the goons. Heck the whole CFC, why not since you're at it. I mean, threads have already been made on this subject, people will seriously repond to it. Of course goons will as well, because we all need our laughs, but that's the harsh world of the EVEO General Discussion forum. AS a whole i dont have a problem with gonos your leader on the other hand i have a problem with drunk or not at fanfest he done wrong and got nailed for it but hes think he was thrown under a bus come on goons for your leader and his big mouth would you follow a moron like that in the real world hell no. I was in the army if my CO made a order like that i would trun his butt in and hang him out to dry. But its a game and you think what he wanted done is ok your the fool allso then. If you think as good as you write I can understand your frustration. Life is hard right? And EVE is hard. You may need help. And there was no order. Your CO is fine. I promise. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
363
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:38:00 -
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There's really not much point even asking a whiny Hulk pilot what their definition of PVP is - at the end of the day, no matter what words they choose to say it, the definition is going to be "something that doesn't let you shoot me". |
Dendrin Koljn
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.31 15:34:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:There's really not much point even asking a whiny Hulk pilot what their definition of PVP is - at the end of the day, no matter what words they choose to say it, the definition is going to be "something that doesn't let you shoot me".
Whiny Hulk pilot here (well every now and again)... i shoot you or you shoot me..maybe the market interaction but as that can exist in a PvE enviroment then to me its just the shooty stuff.
as for the main thread.....I'm wondering...
1. Why does Mitt care about high sec ?....its only a small section of the universe and its only got the low end mins anyway. 2. Who gains from hulks being ganked ? at the end of the chain the Hulk BPO owners...so who owns them ?
The gank mechanic hasnt changed since ive been playing, if anything its become slighty more risky to the ganker...but with alts (which personally I would remove - also limit it to 1 account per person)...then the risk is still pretty small (as in the result expected is still almost certain)...and i dont expect it to change anytime soon.
I would like to see more/different consequences for this , but as a overall change not just hulk gank specific...ie...if you blow up a player in a NPC corp then no matter where you are your standing with that NPC corp+faction+agents should take a hit. But also players in NPC corps should take standing hits for shooting freindlies to that corp.
And the 'prize' is only 10M isk per hulk killed.....your gunna have to make sure you get a good drop to make it worth the time. |
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