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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:35:00 -
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Humour.
Also, no. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:05:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far. Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely differentGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:19:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:It wasn't a demand in any form. Uh-huhGǪ
GÇ£If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.GÇ¥
Just because it was based on a flawed and uninformed premise doesn't make it any less of a demand.
It's silly because all kinds of GÇ£sp remap/refundGÇ¥ requests are silly to begin with and because of that flawed premise. There is absolutely no reason CCP should give you something because of something players decide to do, and there is definitely no reason why they should give you any SP back. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:25:00 -
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Twulf wrote:EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close. Oh really? What keeps it from being a sandbox?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:21:00 -
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Twulf wrote:The fact that you cannot do what you want to do when you want to do it. For one, you can GÇö you're just not ensured of success. For another, that doesn't particularly keep it from being a sandbox.
To quote something Malcanis wrote a few days back: GÇ£GÇÿsandboxGÇÖ doesn't mean GÇÿI get to succeed at whatever I feel like attemptingGÇÖ, it means that GÇÿI get to attempt whatever I want to succeed atGÇÖ.GÇ¥
Quote:Example, My corp had been war dec for the last couple of weeks and I wanted to move some stuff around and do some missions but since High Sec is not safe during a War, I spend the last 2 weeks in Null running Anom's. Not what I wanted to be doing but what I was forced to due based on how EVE works. That's a particularly bad example because it doesn't demonstrate that you can't GÇ£do what you want to do when you want to do itGÇ¥ (which is a rubbish definition of a sandbox anyway). No, you weren't forced. You chose to do that.
Quote:A Sandbox allows players to play the game how they want, when they want. You're missing a very important detail: it's a multiplayer sandbox, and adding that crucial GÇ£multiplayerGÇ¥ pre-modifier does indeed drastically change what a sandbox is.
In a multiplayer sandbox, you can't do what you want GÇö everyone can do what they want, which can and will include things that you do not want them to do (to you). Moreover, that is not what it means to be a sandbox. Being a sandbox means that the game doesn't really come with any pre-defined gameplay but rather gives the player(s) tools to create their own content and then lets them do what they want with those tools.
EVE does exactly that: it gives the players tools and it gives everyone those tools tools. It doesn't discriminate and let you separate yourself from the sandbox by giving you different tools, but rather lets everyone affect everyone with said same set of tools. It is as true a sandbox as you'll ever find.
Quote:Last point, in a Sandbox, I could equip and fly any ship anyway I pleased Good news: you can. The game provides you with every tool required to make that happen, and then it's up to you to do so. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:40:00 -
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GǪif only they got rid of the out-of-sector nonsense, the auto-pillock, and the artificial stupidity. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:39:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Sooo, any large alliances actually going to fight Goons? Beyond the usual suspects? Why would they? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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