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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:27:00 -
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Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. |
Roxwar
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
67
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:29:00 -
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Just for you
/End of thread http://roxwar.blogspot.com/ |
Yolanta Geezenstack
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:30:00 -
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My history doesn't go beyond 4 weeks, but I am curious - when was the time you actually could fly an Hulk safely - I wish I would have been born in those times. Alas, they are gone. Forever. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
958
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:31:00 -
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This is... a hulkageddon whine thread, right? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:32:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:This is... a hulkageddon whine thread, right?
Hardly a whine, buzz off drone. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
105
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:33:00 -
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TLDR: Theme Parker crying and rambling about something he can't possibly comprehend (Sandbox). If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
617
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:33:00 -
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You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:34:00 -
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Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:My history doesn't go beyond 4 weeks, but I am curious - when was the time you actually could fly an Hulk safely - I wish I would have been born in those times. Alas, they are gone. Forever.
There has always been a degree of risk in anything in EVE and I agree that it makes things more fun. But with current situation Hulks are just targets for the psuedo pvp'ers too afraid to fight combat ships and as such are not a viable thing to use. So I think with the changing atmosphere of the game, sanctioned by CCP, that people who flew Hulks should get their points back. |
seany1212
Zat's Affiliated Traders Originally Riotous Corps
176
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:34:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
I heard CCP give your skillpoints back if you biomass |
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
388
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:35:00 -
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Just mine in a 0.0 alliance you cretin. Sov space is safer than hisec nowadays. Damn nature, you scary! |
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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:35:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums.
Yes and you are one of the b++sse lining up to kneel before Mittani. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7495
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:35:00 -
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Humour.
Also, no. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Maledictum Aideron
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:35:00 -
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No, CCP should remove them from high-sec. Period. T2 and T3 ships have no place in high-sec. If you want to run plexes, incursions and missions because you're an IPH nerd, buy faction or go to low-sec/null. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
244
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:37:00 -
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Only if they remove mining barges and exhumers, otherwise, do what the rest of us do and train up other things. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
958
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:39:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums. That's how these forums work. It's like magic !
My Little Carebear: Posting is Magic. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
623
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:40:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:masternerdguy wrote:You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums. Yes and you are one of the b++sse lining up to kneel before Mittani.
Confirming anyone who appreciates the complexity of EVE is lining up to lick Mittani's solid Technetium butt.
Virgil Travis wrote:Only if they remove mining barges and exhumers, otherwise, do what the rest of us do and train up other things.
Maledictum Aideron wrote:No, CCP should remove them from high-sec. Period. T2 and T3 ships have no place in high-sec. If you want to run plexes, incursions and missions because you're an IPH nerd, buy faction or go to low-sec/null.
That would be anti sandbox. It's bad enough they disallow capitals in hi sec. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Maledictum Aideron
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:42:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:masternerdguy wrote:You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums. Yes and you are one of the b++sse lining up to kneel before Mittani. Confirming anyone who appreciates the complexity of EVE is lining up to lick Mittani's solid Technetium butt. Virgil Travis wrote:Only if they remove mining barges and exhumers, otherwise, do what the rest of us do and train up other things. Maledictum Aideron wrote:No, CCP should remove them from high-sec. Period. T2 and T3 ships have no place in high-sec. If you want to run plexes, incursions and missions because you're an IPH nerd, buy faction or go to low-sec/null. That would be anti sandbox. It's bad enough they disallow capitals in hi sec.
Pos should be removed too.
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March rabbit
Trojan Trolls Red Alliance
183
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:45:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:masternerdguy wrote:You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums. Yes and you are one of the b++sse lining up to kneel before Mittani. Confirming anyone who appreciates the complexity of EVE is lining up to lick Mittani's solid Technetium butt. ganking hulks == complexity
Mittani is right: games become easier year after year.....
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seany1212
Zat's Affiliated Traders Originally Riotous Corps
176
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:46:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:masternerdguy wrote:You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums. Yes and you are one of the b++sse lining up to kneel before Mittani. Confirming anyone who appreciates the complexity of EVE is lining up to lick Mittani's solid Technetium butt.
Literally laughed out loud! |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
177
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:46:00 -
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You can tell the integrity of an OP by the speed with which the Thought Police line up to condemn her. OP here is clearly a threat to the ColdDarkHarsh Party. She must be ridiculed at all costs, and any validity to what she says must be scorned. Line up with the Thought Police. |
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
177
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:48:00 -
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seany1212 wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:masternerdguy wrote:You are the poster girl for carebear entitlement on the forums. Yes and you are one of the b++sse lining up to kneel before Mittani. Confirming anyone who appreciates the complexity of EVE is lining up to lick Mittani's solid Technetium butt. Literally laughed out loud!
"Appreciates the complexity of Eve" = Shoots miners in unarmed ships and thinks he is badass and really playing the "hard" game of Eve to its max. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
180
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:49:00 -
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Real men post with their mains, just saying. |
Maledictum Aideron
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:50:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:You can tell the integrity of an OP by the speed with which the Thought Police line up to condemn her. OP here is clearly a threat to the ColdDarkHarsh Party. She must be ridiculed at all costs, and any validity to what she says must be scorned. Line up with the Thought Police.
I know, right? Damn liberals. |
Gossamer DT
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:52:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
Are you really this stupid? who is your main, and what does he do? |
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
41
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:52:00 -
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I allways get primaried in my recon, CPP give me my skillpoints back! |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:54:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Real men post with their mains, just saying.
Real men don't post, period.
But, seeing as this is the land of the blind and all that... |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
163
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:55:00 -
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Gossamer DT wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Are you really this stupid?
Such a brilliant reply, I am just dazzled with your skills at debate. I posted what I thought was a logical solution to the problem now facing miners and I fail to see how it hurts you, other than there would be less easy targets for you big brave gankers. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:58:00 -
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Hulks are not useless. If you cannot fit a tank, reskilling wouldn't help anyways.
And why should ccp refund the points? You can't use the doomsday weapon on ships below capital class, but no refund. Mother ships/super carriers can only fit fighters and bombers, no refund. Pi changed, no refund. Here ccp did nothing, so really why should they offer a refund if skill points.
Just because people do something, doesn't mean ccp should react. Adapt to the other players in the game, or go pkay sonethung else. It really is that simple. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
623
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:59:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:You can tell the integrity of an OP by the speed with which the Thought Police line up to condemn her. OP here is clearly a threat to the ColdDarkHarsh Party. She must be ridiculed at all costs, and any validity to what she says must be scorned. Line up with the Thought Police.
Oh no, he's summoning Orwell now! Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Gossamer DT
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:01:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Gossamer DT wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Are you really this stupid? Such a brilliant reply, I am just dazzled with your skills at debate. I posted what I thought was a logical solution to the problem now facing miners and I fail to see how it hurts you, other than there would be less easy targets for you big brave gankers.
oh noes an alt has called me out, what ever will I do....If only I had your brave posting I would go post on my main, oh wait this is my main.... who is your main, and what does he do? |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1322
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:01:00 -
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I still can't wear a monocle over each eye, think that's worth a petition? |
HellSpeed
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
3
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:01:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Alternatively, all Hulk miners report GS for harassment. You've been dreaming about that starship of yours again, haven't you? |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:03:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Gossamer DT wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Are you really this stupid? Such a brilliant reply, I am just dazzled with your skills at debate. I posted what I thought was a logical solution to the problem now facing miners and I fail to see how it hurts you, other than there would be less easy targets for you big brave gankers.
The problem is, you have ccp reacting to goons. What next? Goons start targeting tengus, ccp reacts and we get more unkillable tengus? Ccp should not react to a tweet from an alliance leader, it sets a bad precedence.
How about giving this time, see how many people keep ganking hulks. If after a month, the minerals dry up and no one flies a hulk, then yeah, see about balancing the issue. If, however, there is minimal change to rhe status quo, then no worries. What.ccp should not and will not do is make a knee-jerk reaction to a tweet. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:05:00 -
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Gossamer DT wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Gossamer DT wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Are you really this stupid? Such a brilliant reply, I am just dazzled with your skills at debate. I posted what I thought was a logical solution to the problem now facing miners and I fail to see how it hurts you, other than there would be less easy targets for you big brave gankers. oh noes an alt has called me out, what ever will I do....If only I had your brave posting I would go post on my main, oh wait this is my main....
This is the main on this account. The other of my families 4 accounts are currently inactive, so this is the one I use. It seems rather academic which account I post with, the opinions I express are mine, not some avatars. Or do you want other names for ingame targets? |
Sarton Wells
Blackmoon Ltd.
4
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:05:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote: It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one).
Are you suggesting there's a ship that can be safely used anywhere? |
Xavier Holtzman
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
32
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:07:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
You KNOW (though you may not want to admit) that CCP will never refund skill points for mining ships. So since you really do know this, what is the intent of your post? |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:09:00 -
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Xavier Holtzman wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. You KNOW (though you may not want to admit) that CCP will never refund skill points for mining ships. So since you really do know this, what is the intent of your post?
I was expressing an opinion, what is the point of any thread if not the same? |
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Persona Non Gratis
61
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:10:00 -
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Wait, is this a red whine or a white whine? I want to know what I should be eating as I enjoy this "Fools! I'll show them all!"
What do you mean that one's already taken? |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
81
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:11:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
Funny how you interpret non-interference of CCP as tacking the site of the Goons and on the same time demand stuff from CCP. How many times did they kill you to make you whine this hard on the forums? Or is that your natural reaction every time someone kicks a little sand in your face? |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:11:00 -
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MisterNick wrote:Wait, is this a red whine or a white whine? I want to know what I should be eating as I enjoy this
Chardonnay. |
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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
166
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:13:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Funny how you interpret non-interference of CCP as tacking the site of the Goons and on the same time demand stuff from CCP. How many times did they kill you to make you whine this hard on the forums? Or is that your natural reaction every time someone kicks a little sand in your face?
Have never been killed by them. How is a suggestion a whine? It is rather ironic that it is you and the gankers who are in fact whining here yet you accuse me of it. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
62
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:17:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
Give it up it's HOPELESS KENSTARR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb5_DVBWgwY |
Nastrado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:17:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Funny how you interpret non-interference of CCP as tacking the site of the Goons and on the same time demand stuff from CCP. How many times did they kill you to make you whine this hard on the forums? Or is that your natural reaction every time someone kicks a little sand in your face? Have never been killed by them. How is a suggestion a whine? It is rather ironic that it is you and the gankers who are in fact whining here yet you accuse me of it.
You haven't been killed by us.... and you are crying ....... really.... hahahahahahahahahaha
Go play hello kitty online.
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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:18:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining.
That really wouldn't make sense for CCP.
Time you spend training is time you spend paying (they corrected the little oversight of offline training a while ago).
Accept that this is the intended consequence of their game, and move along. Find something you like to do. If it's not EVE as it is, your path should be clear. You can always come back later if you feel like it, unless the game disappears for some reason before that happens in which case you've saved yourself even more time and aggravation. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
166
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:19:00 -
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Nastrado wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Funny how you interpret non-interference of CCP as tacking the site of the Goons and on the same time demand stuff from CCP. How many times did they kill you to make you whine this hard on the forums? Or is that your natural reaction every time someone kicks a little sand in your face? Have never been killed by them. How is a suggestion a whine? It is rather ironic that it is you and the gankers who are in fact whining here yet you accuse me of it. You haven't been killed by us.... and you are crying ....... really.... hahahahahahahahahaha Go play hello kitty online.
Again, not crying you mental midget. I made a suggestion, if Mittani isn't here to translate it for you to bad but please stop trying to think for yourself. |
highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
81
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:23:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
So, CCP released the goons on the world?
please remove yourself from the living. THE EVE-O FORUMS GENERAL SECTION = GOON BASH CENTRAL Butt Hurt about Harrasment?Read first GM post:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88362&find=unread My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
166
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:24:00 -
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highonpop wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. So, CCP released the goons on the world? please remove yourself from the living.
They sanctioned the actions so yes. Telling someone to kill themselves is pretty low as well, as I suspect your IQ to be. |
icy ghost
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:25:00 -
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More tears lol the forum will be flooded soon. Ty for hulkageddoninfintysforeverandeverandabitmore its caused some really tasty tears on the forums |
highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
81
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:25:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:highonpop wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. So, CCP released the goons on the world? please remove yourself from the living. They sanctioned the actions so yes. Telling someone to kill themselves is pretty low as well, as I suspect your IQ to be.
They sanction any action that is taken by an in game entity that adds a new dynamic to the EVE world and that is not in Violation of the EULA.
Learn EVE.
ALSO
Please post a link to The Mittani's thread where a CCP GM posted as sponsoring or endorsing the Hulk ganking.
You can't because it isnt there.
again... Learn EVE THE EVE-O FORUMS GENERAL SECTION = GOON BASH CENTRAL Butt Hurt about Harrasment?Read first GM post:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88362&find=unread My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
18
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:26:00 -
[50] - Quote
Look - The Mittani is a looser, but refund of skill points because you are scared? You do realize you are feeding them with your silly tears,
Get real, this is EVE.
I still mine in a hulk at times - dont have much of a problem with gankers. Get some friends, learn how to play. BoBoZoBoCEO of TheRealm |
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highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
81
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:28:00 -
[51] - Quote
BoBoZoBo wrote:Look - The Mittani is a looser, but refund of skill points because you are scared? You do realize you are feeding them with your silly tears,
Get real, this is EVE.
I still mine in a hulk at times - dont have much of a problem with gankers. Get some friends, learn how to play.
In fact, the CFC as a whole runs on a mixture that consists of several different substances. I can't divulge the whole recipe but I can tell you that it requires 20% tears. THE EVE-O FORUMS GENERAL SECTION = GOON BASH CENTRAL Butt Hurt about Harrasment?Read first GM post:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88362&find=unread My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
Xavier Holtzman
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
33
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:29:00 -
[52] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Xavier Holtzman wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. You KNOW (though you may not want to admit) that CCP will never refund skill points for mining ships. So since you really do know this, what is the intent of your post? I was expressing an opinion, what is the point of any thread if not the same?
Expressing an opinion is certainly not the only reason to make a post in a forum. Pointing out bugs (not features), games, funny/interesting internet content, organizing public events, attention wh0ring , connecting with friends, tutorials/guides, expressing opinions, etc ...
I guess you're saying that if you don't express an opinion in a post, there is no point to the post? |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
167
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:29:00 -
[53] - Quote
BoBoZoBo wrote:Look - The Mittani is a looser, but refund of skill points because you are scared? You do realize you are feeding them with your silly tears,
Get real, this is EVE.
I still mine in a hulk at times - dont have much of a problem with gankers. Get some friends, learn how to play.
I am not scared nor do I even mine. This hulk thing doesn't even effect me directly. I have friends who mine (some left, some didn't). I was just making a suggestion I thought was fair. I don't care if they think I am giving them tears, their idiotic ignorant posts amuse me. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
106
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:highonpop wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. So, CCP released the goons on the world? please remove yourself from the living. They sanctioned the actions so yes. Telling someone to kill themselves is pretty low as well, as I suspect your IQ to be.
We also suspect you have a 2 digit IQ. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
167
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:32:00 -
[55] - Quote
Vaju Enki wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:highonpop wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. So, CCP released the goons on the world? please remove yourself from the living. They sanctioned the actions so yes. Telling someone to kill themselves is pretty low as well, as I suspect your IQ to be. We also suspect you have a 2 digit IQ.
Well aren't you surprising, you said something other than 'its a sandbox-not a theme park mmo'. |
Nastrado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:32:00 -
[56] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Nastrado wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. Funny how you interpret non-interference of CCP as tacking the site of the Goons and on the same time demand stuff from CCP. How many times did they kill you to make you whine this hard on the forums? Or is that your natural reaction every time someone kicks a little sand in your face? Have never been killed by them. How is a suggestion a whine? It is rather ironic that it is you and the gankers who are in fact whining here yet you accuse me of it. You haven't been killed by us.... and you are crying ....... really.... hahahahahahahahahaha Go play hello kitty online. Again, not crying you mental midget. I made a suggestion, if Mittani isn't here to translate it for you to bad but please stop trying to think for yourself.
You are crying. You posted a whiny little thread crying to CCP waaaa give me back skill point because I might get killed waaaa.
You are like a child scared of the monster under the bed. Does mommy need to change your sheets? |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
141
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:33:00 -
[57] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
I should have all of my Gallente sp refunded aswell seeing as they are useless and underpowered...
... even though they are not. |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
82
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:35:00 -
[58] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Have never been killed by them. How is a suggestion a whine? It is rather ironic that it is you and the gankers who are in fact whining here yet you accuse me of it.
I'm whining because i'm so sad that you're suggestion wasted a good portion of server space an power and yet was destined to fail from the very beginning. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
169
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:35:00 -
[59] - Quote
Nastrado, I clearly stated that I do not mine nor fly a hulk, so how exactly am I scared of being ganked while flying one? I would not get one skill point back as I have none in mining-industry. Nice reading comprehension skills. |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
284
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:36:00 -
[60] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:Look - The Mittani is a looser, but refund of skill points because you are scared? You do realize you are feeding them with your silly tears,
Get real, this is EVE.
I still mine in a hulk at times - dont have much of a problem with gankers. Get some friends, learn how to play. I am not scared nor do I even mine. This hulk thing doesn't even effect me directly. I have friends who mine (some left, some didn't). I was just making a suggestion I thought was fair. I don't care if they think I am giving them tears, their idiotic ignorant posts amuse me. You know whiteknighting for miners isn't really something that needs doing, yes?
Maybe should evaluate your time a bit better and do something productive. |
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
175
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:36:00 -
[61] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
Shut up
CCP, WHEN AM I GOING TO GET MY CORP BACK? KINDA WANT MY STUFF BACK FROM THE HANGARS. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1598
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:38:00 -
[62] - Quote
I agree, give them all their hulk-specific skills back. That would be...Exhumers III? Congrats, you get like half a day of training back. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
169
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:38:00 -
[63] - Quote
LOL Cutter, I will get right on that. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
244
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:38:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ban Bindy wrote:You can tell the integrity of an OP by the speed with which the Thought Police line up to condemn her. OP here is clearly a threat to the ColdDarkHarsh Party. She must be ridiculed at all costs, and any validity to what she says must be scorned. Line up with the Thought Police.
The thought police have decided you're below the limit. Carry on. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
106
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:39:00 -
[65] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:highonpop wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. So, CCP released the goons on the world? please remove yourself from the living. They sanctioned the actions so yes. Telling someone to kill themselves is pretty low as well, as I suspect your IQ to be. We also suspect you have a 2 digit IQ. Well aren't you surprising, you said something other than 'its a sandbox-not a theme park mmo'.
Yes i did, and it help you find out after 9 YEARS what EvE is. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
175
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:40:00 -
[66] - Quote
no they shouldn't; refunding points is only reserved for ccp removing something from the game. it's an extreme measure and should almost never be used. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Lokdu
Sacred Templar Knights ROL.Citizens
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:47:00 -
[67] - Quote
your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
169
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:52:00 -
[68] - Quote
Lokdu wrote:your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice
Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE as gone too far. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
107
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 15:58:00 -
[69] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Lokdu wrote:your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE as gone too far.
I would also be mad if i had spent the last nine years with my head buried in the sand, "Ostrich" style. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Haldor Rune
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:59:00 -
[70] - Quote
Bunnie Hop? HAS to be a troll .
Avatar's not bad, though. |
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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
178
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:02:00 -
[71] - Quote
Haldor Rune wrote:Bunnie Hop? HAS to be a troll . Avatar's not bad, though.
Na, just a silly name, I let my oldest daughter help me name one of my characters a few years ago and this is what she wanted. We used to play a bunnie hop game she loved. My husband rolls his eyes at it too |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
178
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:03:00 -
[72] - Quote
Vaju Enki wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Lokdu wrote:your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE as gone too far. I would also be mad if i had spent the last nine years with my head buried in the sand, "Ostrich" style.
Oh hello, you are still here. Hows it going |
Velicitia
Open Designs
945
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:05:00 -
[73] - Quote
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Real men post with their mains, just saying.
^This...
and to be on-topic ...
@Floppie, yeah the "hulk specific" skill is Exhumers III, which is like a day (at most) of training. It's the Mining Barge and Astrogeology 5 that kill you |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7502
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:05:00 -
[74] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far. Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely differentGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
962
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:09:00 -
[75] - Quote
Velicitia wrote:@Floppie, yeah the "hulk specific" skill is Exhumers III, which is like a day (at most) of training. It's the Mining Barge and Astrogeology 5 that kill you You can use a covetor, I hear they're safe, relatively inexpensive compared to Hulk and have a good yield despite that big discount. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
179
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:10:00 -
[76] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far. Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely differentGǪ
It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
74
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:12:00 -
[77] - Quote
Good Lord.
Every day, I find myself thinking more and more like a Goon. It's threads like this that push me that way.... Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7503
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:19:00 -
[78] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:It wasn't a demand in any form. Uh-huhGǪ
GÇ£If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.GÇ¥
Just because it was based on a flawed and uninformed premise doesn't make it any less of a demand.
It's silly because all kinds of GÇ£sp remap/refundGÇ¥ requests are silly to begin with and because of that flawed premise. There is absolutely no reason CCP should give you something because of something players decide to do, and there is definitely no reason why they should give you any SP back. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
963
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:20:00 -
[79] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:Good Lord. Every day, I find myself thinking more and more like a Goon. It's threads like this that push me that way.... You're falling to the dark side.
Soon you'll be looking at a list of Catalysts with shiny blasters ... and it'll come naturally to you. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
77
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:22:00 -
[80] - Quote
Vaju Enki wrote:TLDR: Theme Parker crying and rambling about something he can't possibly comprehend (Sandbox).
Stop saying EVE is a Sandbox and at the same time telling others how to play EVE.
EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close. |
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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
180
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:22:00 -
[81] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:It wasn't a demand in any form. Uh-huhGǪ GǣIf you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.Gǥ Just because it was based on a flawed and uninformed premise doesn't make it any less of a demand. It's silly because all kinds of Gǣsp remap/refundGǥ requests are silly to begin with and because of that flawed premise. There is absolutely no reason CCP should give you something because of something players decide to do, and there is definitely no reason why they should give you any SP back.
I wasn't suggesting it for myself as I have no points in those skills. Well we disagree, lets leave it at that, no sense in this becoming more than a disagreement. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
75
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:23:00 -
[82] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:silens vesica wrote:Good Lord. Every day, I find myself thinking more and more like a Goon. It's threads like this that push me that way.... You're falling to the dark side. Soon you'll be looking at a list of Catalysts with shiny blasters ... and it'll come naturally to you. You know... I *have* been collecting a lot of blasters lately.
Hmmm...
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
963
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:23:00 -
[83] - Quote
The Rokh is decent PvP if you use.. BLASTERS !!
BlasterRokh, go get some killmails ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7503
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:25:00 -
[84] - Quote
Twulf wrote:EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close. Oh really? What keeps it from being a sandbox?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
76
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:27:00 -
[85] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Twulf wrote:EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close. Oh really? What keeps it from being a sandbox? No swingsets or jungle bars. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Exhale.
108
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:28:00 -
[86] - Quote
If all the crybabies would spend the same time searching for alternatives/solutions/reskilling as they spend here whining to CCP to take care of their sore buttes, they already would:
- fly a tanked Hulk - fly a Covertor - mine in a BS - moved in to 0.0 or WH space
I feel sorry for you and your lack of will to adapt. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
417
|
Posted - 2012.05.30 16:32:00 -
[87] - Quote
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, you act like you have a RIGHT to WIN Eve.
Grow up and stop taking it so seriously, why do you play a game you obviously are not enjoying?
Eve is a game about taking risks and MAYBE getting rewarded.
Not fun? Well, why on earth did you subscribe in the first place, didn't you read the product description?
You are nothing more than a spoiled brat. |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
77
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:56:00 -
[88] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Twulf wrote:EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close. Oh really? What keeps it from being a sandbox?
The fact that you cannot do what you want to do when you want to do it.
Example, My corp had been war dec for the last couple of weeks and I wanted to move some stuff around and do some missions but since High Sec is not safe during a War, I spend the last 2 weeks in Null running Anom's. Not what I wanted to be doing but what I was forced to due based on how EVE works.
A Sandbox allows players to play the game how they want, when they want. Just because its an MMO game, does not change what a Sandbox is. EvE has sandbox elements but it is not a true Sandbox.
Also so of you VETs point out that players that play in High sec only are "Not playing EVE correctly" which is another sign that EVE is not a Sandbox as in a Sandbox, there is no wrong way to play.
Last point, in a Sandbox, I could equip and fly any ship anyway I pleased, you cannot do that in EVE due to the game design, not a true Sandbox. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7505
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:21:00 -
[89] - Quote
Twulf wrote:The fact that you cannot do what you want to do when you want to do it. For one, you can GÇö you're just not ensured of success. For another, that doesn't particularly keep it from being a sandbox.
To quote something Malcanis wrote a few days back: GÇ£GÇÿsandboxGÇÖ doesn't mean GÇÿI get to succeed at whatever I feel like attemptingGÇÖ, it means that GÇÿI get to attempt whatever I want to succeed atGÇÖ.GÇ¥
Quote:Example, My corp had been war dec for the last couple of weeks and I wanted to move some stuff around and do some missions but since High Sec is not safe during a War, I spend the last 2 weeks in Null running Anom's. Not what I wanted to be doing but what I was forced to due based on how EVE works. That's a particularly bad example because it doesn't demonstrate that you can't GÇ£do what you want to do when you want to do itGÇ¥ (which is a rubbish definition of a sandbox anyway). No, you weren't forced. You chose to do that.
Quote:A Sandbox allows players to play the game how they want, when they want. You're missing a very important detail: it's a multiplayer sandbox, and adding that crucial GÇ£multiplayerGÇ¥ pre-modifier does indeed drastically change what a sandbox is.
In a multiplayer sandbox, you can't do what you want GÇö everyone can do what they want, which can and will include things that you do not want them to do (to you). Moreover, that is not what it means to be a sandbox. Being a sandbox means that the game doesn't really come with any pre-defined gameplay but rather gives the player(s) tools to create their own content and then lets them do what they want with those tools.
EVE does exactly that: it gives the players tools and it gives everyone those tools tools. It doesn't discriminate and let you separate yourself from the sandbox by giving you different tools, but rather lets everyone affect everyone with said same set of tools. It is as true a sandbox as you'll ever find.
Quote:Last point, in a Sandbox, I could equip and fly any ship anyway I pleased Good news: you can. The game provides you with every tool required to make that happen, and then it's up to you to do so. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1258
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:26:00 -
[90] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Twulf wrote:The fact that you cannot do what you want to do when you want to do it. For one, you can GÇö you're just not ensured of success. For another, that doesn't particularly keep it from being a sandbox. To quote something Malcanis wrote a few days back: GÇ£GÇÿsandboxGÇÖ doesn't mean GÇÿI get to succeed at whatever I feel like attemptingGÇÖ, it means that GÇÿI get to attempt whatever I want to succeed atGÇÖ.GÇ¥ Quote:Example, My corp had been war dec for the last couple of weeks and I wanted to move some stuff around and do some missions but since High Sec is not safe during a War, I spend the last 2 weeks in Null running Anom's. Not what I wanted to be doing but what I was forced to due based on how EVE works. That's a particularly bad example because it doesn't demonstrate that you can't GÇ£do what you want to do when you want to do itGÇ¥ (which is a rubbish definition of a sandbox anyway). No, you weren't forced. You chose to do that. Quote:A Sandbox allows players to play the game how they want, when they want. You're missing a very important detail: it's a multiplayer sandbox, and adding that crucial GÇ£multiplayerGÇ¥ pre-modifier does indeed drastically change what a sandbox is. In a multiplayer sandbox, you can't do what you want GÇö everyone can do what they want, which can and will include things that you do not want them to do (to you). Moreover, that is not what it means to be a sandbox. Being a sandbox means that the game doesn't really come with any pre-defined gameplay but rather gives the player(s) tools to create their own content and then lets them do what they want with those tools. EVE does exactly that: it gives the players tools. It gives everyone tools. It doesn't discriminate and let you separate yourself from the sandbox, but rather lets everyone affect everyone with said tools. It is as true a sandbox as you'll ever find. Quote:Last point, in a Sandbox, I could equip and fly any ship anyway I pleased Good news: you can. The game provides you with every tool required to make that happen, and then it's up to you to do so.
Exactly what I wanted to say.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
417
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:31:00 -
[91] - Quote
You should go back and read the product / service description that you subscribed to.
It is not the game service you THINK it is.
Mummy Online -> this way. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
417
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:32:00 -
[92] - Quote
You should buy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X%C2%B3:_Reunion
That is all. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
417
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:34:00 -
[93] - Quote
I think I am going to wardec you :) Just for giggles. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:36:00 -
[94] - Quote
Twulf wrote:Tippia wrote:Twulf wrote:EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close. Oh really? What keeps it from being a sandbox? The fact that you cannot do what you want to do when you want to do it. but what i want to do is kill you and hang your corpse from my ship
clearly, a "sandbox" game in the way you imagine it is logically impossible in a multi-player game
so obviously you're completely wrong dictionary boy |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7506
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:40:00 -
[95] - Quote
GǪif only they got rid of the out-of-sector nonsense, the auto-pillock, and the artificial stupidity. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
209
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:41:00 -
[96] - Quote
sandbox On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
417
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:42:00 -
[97] - Quote
Lyron-Baktos wrote:sandbox
I can see why the sandbox is failing,, all the water ruining the sand and sandcastles. |
Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
119
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:06:00 -
[98] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
I think I will do something novel and respond seriously to your suggestion. Your suggestion, if implemented, would set a precedent that would force CCP into refunding skill-points whenever a significant event occurred. There are many changes that occurred in the past that would merit the refund of skill-points.
- Drone bay and amount nerf (Suddenly Thoraxes can't fit 5 Heavy drones): refund drone and gallente ship skill-points down to the frigate level.
- Nano Nerf (Vagabonds can now not travel at insanely fast speeds with faction MWDs: refund Minmatar Cruiser, HAC, AS skills, refund any money invested in Vagabonds.
- Super Capital Nerf (Super Carriers can no longer use drones, Titans nerfed, Super Cap HPs nerfed): refund all skillpoints related to Super Capital ships
The problem with your suggestion is that there has been no balance change by CCP to Hulks. This is a reaction to how people play the game have changed things up. Eve is a game of consequences. Every action you take can have huge ramifications to you. You live with the consequences of your choices. That is what makes Eve so special. There are no do overs. If you do something or someone does something to you that completely bankrupts you then you are bankrupt, there is no getting that money back because you don't like it. It's that risk of losing it all that makes this game so wonderful, so addictive.
I like my consequences, please keep them.
FYI: I personally have near perfect Hulk skills that I never use, this change would be a HUGE influx of sp's that I no longer use. http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
283
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:14:00 -
[99] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
Now that is funny. Despite the number of threads out on both sides. I believe most of us are only half serious and half trolling at this point.
And asking for SP's back, well even when CCP nerfed things into the ground they never gave skill points back.
And despite the the threads that state EVE is hurting because there are no minerals being mined. Well the market says otherwise (for how much longer hard to say).
Bottom line people are still mining in Hulk's
And if CCP start seeing Issues with the market. Well they can always you my solution (see sig)
CCP set to change build Requirements for Exhumers |
Grohl Dovah
Corbomite Enterprises.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:21:00 -
[100] - Quote
seany1212 wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. I heard CCP give your skillpoints back if you biomass
you sir are evil hehehe |
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:26:00 -
[101] - Quote
Twulf wrote:Tippia wrote:Twulf wrote:EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close. Oh really? What keeps it from being a sandbox? The fact that you cannot do what you want to do when you want to do it. Example, My corp had been war dec for the last couple of weeks and I wanted to move some stuff around and do some missions but since High Sec is not safe during a War, I spend the last 2 weeks in Null running Anom's. Not what I wanted to be doing but what I was forced to due based on how EVE works. A Sandbox allows players to play the game how they want, when they want. Just because its an MMO game, does not change what a Sandbox is. EvE has sandbox elements but it is not a true Sandbox. Also so of you VETs point out that players that play in High sec only are "Not playing EVE correctly" which is another sign that EVE is not a Sandbox as in a Sandbox, there is no wrong way to play. Last point, in a Sandbox, I could equip and fly any ship anyway I pleased, you cannot do that in EVE due to the game design, not a true Sandbox.
You fail.
One demensional thinking is only one demensional thinking, and does not reality make.
Developer imposed restrictiions that prevent people from doing what they want results in the removal of sandbox play. Player imposed restrictions upon other players IS an element of sandbox play. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
890
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:32:00 -
[102] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
No. And kill yourself.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
966
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:35:00 -
[103] - Quote
Miilla wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:sandbox I can see why the sandbox is failing,, all the water ruining the sand and sandcastles. You mean... tears? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
177
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:35:00 -
[104] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Tippia wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far. Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely differentGǪ It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point.
You still haven't shut up.
CCP, WHEN AM I GOING TO GET MY CORP BACK? KINDA WANT MY STUFF BACK FROM THE HANGARS. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
890
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:38:00 -
[105] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Tippia wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far. Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely differentGǪ It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point. You still haven't shut up.
And you won't see it shut up. It's just the latest Apostle sockpuppet. It switches names every few weeks after enough people get tired of listening to it blather on and on about how evil Goons are to avoid people's ignore lists. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:43:00 -
[106] - Quote
Xython wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Tippia wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far. Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely differentGǪ It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point. You still haven't shut up. And you won't see it shut up. It's just the latest Apostle sockpuppet. It switches names every few weeks after enough people get tired of listening to it blather on and on about how evil Goons are to avoid people's ignore lists.
Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears. |
Scien Inkunen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:53:00 -
[107] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
You have to understand that this is harsh environment suitable only for brave pilots with harts of steel who have deep contempt for all Themepark lovers. Your place is not here and you will be punished for that. Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
890
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:54:00 -
[108] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears.
You appear to be mad still bro, you ok? You mad? |
Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
58
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:56:00 -
[109] - Quote
Xython wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears. You appear to be mad still bro, you ok? You mad?
reminds me of the 13 year olds on Call of Duty MW 3
You 13 bro? You 13? |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:58:00 -
[110] - Quote
Tenchi Sal wrote:Xython wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears. You appear to be mad still bro, you ok? You mad? reminds me of the 13 year olds on Call of Duty MW 3 You 13 bro? You 13?
You mad too bro! Lots of mad in here yo! Not good for complexion, should be less mad, bros!
Edit: Although your corp name is freaking brilliant. :) |
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Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
59
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:59:00 -
[111] - Quote
I mad bro I mad. Not sure about what but I mad bro I mad. |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:01:00 -
[112] - Quote
Not mad here, jeg har det fint |
Onyx Nyx
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:01:00 -
[113] - Quote
Try swinging a cactus above your head, because it apparently helps. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
252
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:02:00 -
[114] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
You know, I know and the rest of Eve knows this is never going to happen, nor should it.
Please stop making non-goons look stupid. You want fries with that? |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:04:00 -
[115] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. You know, I know and the rest of Eve knows this is never going to happen, nor should it. Please stop making non-goons look stupid.
Of course I know this would never happen. I am not totally blond. But I wanted to make a point in the debate about it, though expecting a debate and not a flame war was rather naive on my part I admit. |
baltec1
1253
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:06:00 -
[116] - Quote
Its amazing just how far some people will go before they fit a tank to their ships |
Tirestun
NOCXIUM DOGS
27
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:07:00 -
[117] - Quote
GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.
They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.
On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you? |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:09:00 -
[118] - Quote
Tirestun wrote:GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.
They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.
On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you?
No, I dont mine nor have ever trained for a Hulk, as I stated. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:11:00 -
[119] - Quote
Tirestun wrote:GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.
They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.
On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you?
The whole "we like it when entitled assholes who are killing EVE get upset" motivation doesn't count? |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
497
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:11:00 -
[120] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote: Of course I know this would never happen. I am not totally blond. But I wanted to make a point in the debate about it, though expecting a debate and not a flame war was rather naive on my part I admit.
Free advice: if you want a discussion post something intelligent and if you want a flame war post something stupid. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:12:00 -
[121] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote: Of course I know this would never happen. I am not totally blond. But I wanted to make a point in the debate about it, though expecting a debate and not a flame war was rather naive on my part I admit.
Free advice: if you want a discussion post something intelligent and if you want a flame war post something stupid.
And if you want both: Join Goonswarm and post anything. :) |
baltec1
1254
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:13:00 -
[122] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Tirestun wrote:GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.
They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.
On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you? No, I dont mine nor have ever trained for a Hulk, as I stated.
I have |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:14:00 -
[123] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
I lost 2 Drakes and 5 Blackbirds in the last 2 weeks fighting the forces of bad posting in 0.0
Should I quit flying those boats and get sp refund? . |
Tirestun
NOCXIUM DOGS
27
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:15:00 -
[124] - Quote
Posted this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115546&find=unread
Thread locked in under 10 seconds. Point still stands, though. |
lanyaie
302
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:15:00 -
[125] - Quote
Only mittani can make thousands of players cry by saying only a few words. I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
ErrorRon
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:17:00 -
[126] - Quote
Can't fly hulks safely anymore? Could you ever? Welcome to Eve. Where we make the rules. :) |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:19:00 -
[127] - Quote
No More Heroes wrote:Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. I lost 2 Drakes and 5 Blackbirds in the last 2 weeks fighting the forces of bad posting in 0.0 Should I quit flying those boats and get sp refund?
Well if I were to answer you as most goons answer me, I would tell you to go kill yourself...But that would make me a brainless drone. I think my initial point was valid, if CCP is making the hulk obsolete (which by condoning and even cheering you guys on they are doing) then they should give the skillpoints back. I could argue both sides of this as I know its a slippery slope, but perhaps they will see that people have spent alot of training time and isk for a squishy flying target and something needs change in light of current events.
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:20:00 -
[128] - Quote
lanyaie wrote:Only mittani can make thousands of players cry by saying only a few words.
not empty quoting . |
Scien Inkunen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:21:00 -
[129] - Quote
lanyaie wrote:Only mittani can make thousands of players cry by saying only a few words.
Long live the king and let there be infinite quantity of beers for him ! Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:31:00 -
[130] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Tirestun wrote:GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.
They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.
On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you? No, I dont mine nor have ever trained for a Hulk, as I stated.
Wait, wait wait. You don't have a Hulk, but started a "give us a refund for the Hulk SP because we're too stupid to play the game" thread?
Masterful troll there. You really are mad, aren't you bro? |
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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:35:00 -
[131] - Quote
Sooo, any large alliances actually going to fight Goons? |
Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:37:00 -
[132] - Quote
No, no, I agree. Refund the couple thousand SP for Exhumers III. Make everyone fly covetors. Watch who trains up Hulks again anyway. Laugh. Pray. Namaste. |
Haldor Rune
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:38:00 -
[133] - Quote
lanyaie wrote:Only mittani can make thousands of players cry by saying only a few words. That's power. Though isn't James 315 his main propagandist?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7509
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:39:00 -
[134] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Sooo, any large alliances actually going to fight Goons? Beyond the usual suspects? Why would they? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Juess
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:41:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. A choice.
Always had one, they did.
CCP's fault they made a series of poor choices, it is not.
Bad, your post is.
Into gunnery you wish to put your skill points now?
Too late, it is not! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4002
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:42:00 -
[136] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
you can mine safely in 0.0
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
179
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:02:00 -
[137] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears.
Hmm, were you calling me a drone? You think I have anything to do with Goons? How wrong you are. CCP, WHEN AM I GOING TO GET MY CORP BACK? KINDA WANT MY STUFF BACK FROM THE HANGARS. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
418
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:02:00 -
[138] - Quote
According to this guide... http://www.recover-from-grief.com/7-stages-of-grief.html
You will get over it. Which stage (level) are you at? |
Mallak Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx Luna Sanguinem
116
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:09:00 -
[139] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
Yeah!
I trained for a Chimera that I can no longer fly safely in lowsec. I demand that all my skill points be refunded!
Umm, no. |
Lady Bavmorda
Grau Foundation
4
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:11:00 -
[140] - Quote
I suddenly find myself agreeing with the OP if for the wrong reasons. I trained mining barge 5 on Lady Bav years ago and never use the damn things... I guess I forgot how tedious mining is Would be nice to put 1mill skill points into something useful. |
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Caecilia Arene
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:16:00 -
[141] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead. This is not the game for you. Adapt to the ever changing dynamic.
There are plenty of nice quiet systems in high sec to mine in. Just keep flexible, move around and be careful... And if you die then that's a part of life in EVE. And, no, I don't have to be a Goon drone to disagree with your post. This is not a game about entitlement. It's always been this way so stop trying change it for the worse. |
Gossamer DT
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.05.30 21:22:00 -
[142] - Quote
Dearest OP.
So I find some things you keep claiming hard to believe.
So why do you care then? you claim you can't/don't mine, then why are you here posting and posting about something you can't even do?
And really this is your main? I mean come on really? You have spent your entire eve carrer in an NPC corp with a short stay in Sanctuary corp? you have done nothing else in eve? who is your main, and what does he do? |
Uranium 242
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.30 21:31:00 -
[143] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Sooo, any large alliances actually going to fight Goons?
How bout you start one and take the fight to us.
Please, please please please please take the fight to us. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
1497
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Posted - 2012.05.31 06:03:00 -
[144] - Quote
Moved from "EVE General Discussion".
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Helion Dhamphir
Muj Mining Corp.
11
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Posted - 2012.05.31 07:10:00 -
[145] - Quote
In that case, I want my carrier skillpoints refunded, i just can't seem to rat and mission in lowsec with it without being ganked...
Come on dude, it's eve, if players blow your crap up deal with it (Them >:) ) |
Jackal Datapaw
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:40:00 -
[146] - Quote
It always surprises me how worked up people get over a game. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
290
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:45:00 -
[147] - Quote
another fuggin hulk whine thread??? If you are ganked too much in high sec, dont mine in high sec. That easy. |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
91
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:59:00 -
[148] - Quote
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I still can't wear a monocle over each eye, think that's worth a petition?
If you wore two it wouldn't be a monocle.... sheeesh |
Trollin
67
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:15:00 -
[149] - Quote
MisterNick wrote:Wait, is this a red whine or a white whine? I want to know what I should be eating as I enjoy this
popcorn ofc . |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
91
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:17:00 -
[150] - Quote
Nastrado wrote:
You haven't been killed by us.... and you are crying ....... really.... hahahahahahahahahaha
Go play hello kitty online.
I keep hearing about this hello kitty online game, usually from goons. I had to look it up, I was curious, assuming the goons mentioning it must be familiar with it I thought it must be some blood thirsty game. More of a kitty roleplaying thing actually. I have to say I never expected you guys were in to that kind of thing, but then again it did look like a preschooler game and that would match your intellect. |
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Jackal Datapaw
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:01:00 -
[151] - Quote
Here my vote.
I think one week, every year, when CCP gets tired of all the whining about high sec ****, they should set concord to auto attack everyone found in high sec, but that's just my idea ;D |
star Outamon
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.01 03:36:00 -
[152] - Quote
Here my vote.
I think one week, every year, when CCP gets tired of all the whining about high sec ****, they should set concord to auto attack everyone found in high sec, but that's just my idea ;D
well mostly this just seems to be get everyone out of hi sec....wat do u care where i choose to live.....i get ganked who cares,,,,yea goons get their isk from me buying another hulk..nothing i can do about that,,,,other than not fly them......well thats my perferred ship, all i trained for,,,,,,,the original post is valid and the posters thoughtsbut ccp should not give SP back unless they remove exhumers from the game /o\,,,,,but ofc u see how these big bad tuff guys go rite away (yay moar tears)just cuz u have an idea they dont like, ur whining....a bunch o kiddies wat u expect,,let them have their fun dont care wat they do.....cant stop them unless joining another big alliance is wat u call fun......as for me ill keep mining in hi sec selling my goods til i can afford to build my own ships and have fun playing a game i like....... |
Cari Cullejen
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Can't Undock. Won't Undock
8
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Posted - 2012.06.01 05:33:00 -
[153] - Quote
I feel sorry for the noobs just entering the game... now they have to pay double to get any ship! You all wouldn't care, your wallets are filled with zeros and you all have nothing more to spend on.
I wonder what would happen if EVERYONE moved to 0.0 like most people propose, noobs would enter a hostile empty world wondering what to do and who to work for. In love with CCP Sunset,-á+ëg velti ++v+¡ hvernig ++a+¦ er +í-á+ìslandi |
Felsusguy
Try-Cycle Mining Industry
13
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Posted - 2012.06.01 07:48:00 -
[154] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:This is... a hulkageddon whine thread, right? Hardly a whine, buzz off drone. "Buzz off"? "Drone"? For one, no one should speak like that. Just because. Secondly, refunding skillpoints for a completely applicable, current skill doesn't work.
Hulkageddon is a player event. Do you think CCP should refund Caldari ship skillpoints if everyone is using lasers and EM missiles? Besides, the players should know the risk. There has been Hulkageddons for years. All have eventually ended.
Let's refund Heavy Interdictor skill because everyone is using Tech III ships with Interdiction Nullifiers. Let's refund Marauder skill because everyone is using Noctis. Let's refund Interceptor skill because everyone is using warp core stabilizers. Let's refund Proteus, Legion and Loki skills because everyone is using Tengu. Let's refund Titan skill because everyone is hunting Titans. Let's refund Exhumer skill because everyone is hunting Exhumers Try-Cycle Mining Industry recruiting! |
Tadeo Musashy
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:26:00 -
[155] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his b++sser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.
1st i have to say i've criticized ccp and asked for skill compensation in several ocasions, i did that because some of the "on the run" changes which rendered some skills almost useless in conjunction with a plan set up once other rules were in place... as for this thread's subject i really cant see anything to blame ccp for - there's no new conditions in the game which one could point his finger on and say THAT has ruined my carefully calculated gameplay, at least not something you could blame ccp for... therefore i have to say there's no reason in asking them for compensation... if you think Mittani is to be blamed for the breach in your gameplay you could ask him for reimbursment or you could gather the highsec miners guild, raise some reward isk and, at least, hire some mercs to get his corpse... or even better get a task force to watch you back for say 2-3 days an blast into pieces all those "braves" who think about themselfs they are kinnda "big and mean" mofos when they are lurking high sec looking to "engage" (and in most cases outnumber) unaware, unwilling and uncapable to fight back miners and / or pve'rs... the "heat" is in null out there brave gents - where ppl are prepared and ready to shoot back - that ofc if you are able to stand that heat... if not, well, go get another hulk... bleahhh care about having POLLs available in forum threads? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115634&find=unread |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:08:00 -
[156] - Quote
Really should lock this thread now I think, the original point I was trying to make is lost and it was perhaps too sarcastic and aggressive to begin with. I won't be revisiting it at any rate. Farvel /wave |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
165
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Posted - 2012.06.01 14:11:00 -
[157] - Quote
This is hardly appropriate for F&I. Move it back to General since there is no new feature or idea suggestion here. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
7451
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Posted - 2012.06.02 01:00:00 -
[158] - Quote
Bunnie Hop wrote:Really should lock this thread now I think, the original point I was trying to make is lost and it was perhaps too sarcastic and aggressive to begin with. I won't be revisiting it at any rate. Farvel /wave It wasn't lost, it was simply discounted as utter tosh.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
265
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Posted - 2012.06.02 01:51:00 -
[159] - Quote
There is no inherent right to mine successfully in a hulk. As a matter of fact its the best mining ship because its the weakest. Think of it as a wizard class glass cannon mining ship.
Waiting for years as Mittani unleashes the hive upon the asteroid humpers isn't going to change one thing. He is doing, and remarkably I might add, exactly what he should do. Not only blowing up ships but doing so with a market driven purpose.
If people quit, thats too bad. CCP knew the risk when they created a game like EVE. The truth is when ore begins going through the roof in price those same pvpers will begin mining and taking the risk for the fortunes. And then they will become hunted.
The Mittani is probably the active and intelligently played miners best friend in all of New Eden.
I for one welcome our new Goon Overlords. |
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