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Sandeep
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:15:00 -
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Why does patching an EVE client (i.e. changing some files in an already installed EVE folder) require the user to have Windows Administrators privilege? A "Modify" permission to the folder would have been sufficient.
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Lork Niffle
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:16:00 -
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You aren't running as admin? ------------------------------------- Read my bio ingame for tips on how to live and not be called nasty names by me. |
Asum Delm
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:20:00 -
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If you are a normal user in a company it isnt your job to install or change whats on the computer, this goes for most big companies. There's a reason why you have super users and admins, to many don't know what the **** is going on when they change things.
And if you are running as admin, then its just a check that something is changing on the computer are you aware of this.
Basic protection of computers.
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Sandeep
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:25:00 -
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No. I am still using Windows XP, and it's safer to run as non-admin most of the time.
If a software does not need admin privilege, it shouldn't demand to have it.
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Sandeep
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Asum Delm If you are a normal user in a company it isnt your job to install or change whats on the computer, this goes for most big companies.
I am talking about the patches, not the initial installation. The initial installation will require admin (to set up DirectX stuff, I guess). If all the patch changes are some files that you already have permission to change, why escalate to admin?
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Lork Niffle
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:27:00 -
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Safer from what? I've had viruses on Administrator accounts. Xp is nearly 7 years old. Viruses are well ground into getting around the security features in XP. Believe me if you get something bad it isn't going to need admin. ------------------------------------- Read my bio ingame for tips on how to live and not be called nasty names by me. |
Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sandeep No. I am still using Windows XP, and it's safer to run as non-admin most of the time.
If a software does not need admin privilege, it shouldn't demand to have it.
If it didn't need admin it wouldn't ask for it, its asking for it so it must need it >.>
Your own logic defeated your arguement, i'm not aware of many patches that don't need admin, if i update anything it prompts me for admin, if you don't like giving it admin then just download the fresh install each time they patch and extract it with winrar it bypasses admin ;)
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lork Niffle Safer from what? I've had viruses on Administrator accounts. Xp is nearly 7 years old. Viruses are well ground into getting around the security features in XP. Believe me if you get something bad it isn't going to need admin.
Teehee! "Safety features of Windows". You made a funny! ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |
Franco Caruso
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sandeep Why does patching an EVE client (i.e. changing some files in an already installed EVE folder) require the user to have Windows Administrators privilege? A "Modify" permission to the folder would have been sufficient.
It's not the EVE patch requiring the permissions it is your system security policy and how YOU have set it up. You want to be secure, you set the system up like that ... don't go around asking why.
FC
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Captian Conrad
Minmatar Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Captian Conrad on 20/08/2009 17:32:14
Originally by: Sandeep If a software does not need admin privilege, it shouldn't demand to have it.
Look it sounds like you and your pc are going though some hard times, like all couples, so just take a break a few days apart will do you to some good, and before u know it it will no longer demand, but ask
/troll
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: SandeepThe initial installation will require admin (to set up DirectX stuff, I guess).[/quote
From what I've seen recently, the SiSi patches (and probably TQ as well) run dxsetup after changing the EVE files, which probably needs admin.
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Edward Mungrelson
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lork Niffle Safer from what? I've had viruses on Administrator accounts. Xp is nearly 7 years old. Viruses are well ground into getting around the security features in XP. Believe me if you get something bad it isn't going to need admin.
That's the whole point! Running in Administrator/root is not as safe as a limited account as once the system is comprised they have access to everything - however due to slacking programmers a repeating cycle has formed where most windows users run in admin (myself included) and programs that don't really need it request for admin rights. For that reason UAC was created, however it was far too annoying, and everyone I've spoke to just clicked yes, as most applications on windows stupidly ask for admin and there were also exploits that could avoid UAC anyway.
GNU/Linux distros do admin/user rights much better such as Ubuntu where only things that require root access ask for it and it's much less hassle to type sudo apt-get bubblebobbleclone97 and be done with it.
Also XP is almost 8 years old :)
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Captian Conrad
Minmatar Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.20 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Edward Mungrelson For that reason UAC was created, however it was far too annoying
Thankfully UAC has been fixed somewhat with win7 (can set the alet lv, if u edit, a program does ect ect)
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PuncherDavis
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ancy Denaries
Originally by: Lork Niffle Safer from what? I've had viruses on Administrator accounts. Xp is nearly 7 years old. Viruses are well ground into getting around the security features in XP. Believe me if you get something bad it isn't going to need admin.
Teehee! "Safety features of Windows". You made a funny!
Please for the Love of anything you love NEVER ever use these words again... Safety and windows..NO bigger oxymoron...anitmatter vs matter..gravity vs antigravity...wow vs brains counter argument of insanity has ever been..
DONT DO IT
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Edward Mungrelson
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Captian Conrad
Originally by: Edward Mungrelson For that reason UAC was created, however it was far too annoying
Thankfully UAC has been fixed somewhat with win7 (can set the alet lv, if u edit, a program does ect ect)
And a back door they have no intention of fixing last time I read about it :/
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