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Posted - 2012.05.31 12:48:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Sociopaths need someone to hate. And their brains are shortcircuited, so they themselves don't understand why they do what they do. Well, that certainly explains why miners spew so much hate over the goons.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:19:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:It would still be EVE. The greatness of the game is that it can accomodate a multiplicity of play styles.
In theory a hi-sec bubble of theme park could accommodate those most hated of players from WOW, SWTOR etc. This would bump up CCP's resources. It would also mean more players would be able to find their feet before joining the "real" EVE. No it wouldn't, unless, in that same theory, those players were unable to interact with the market; were unable to engage in science and industry; were unable to mine, do exploration, and collect loot and salvage from missions.
Without those restrictions, the rest of EVE cannot accommodate the levels of protections inside that bubble and it would abused to no end. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:33:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:How would it be abused? I accept that some people would do their level best to abuse the system. They already do. But what would the nature of the abuse be? Production of ISK, materials, and equipment without any possibility whatsoever to disrupt those activities. Competition on vastly unequal terms. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:51:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:Isn't most of the buying/selling/production already done in hi-sec anyway? Even if it is, none of it is protected and can be disrupted at any point. It's not about the economy (although that plays in as well, since less stuff will be destroyed), but about the inequality between the rule sets by all the actors.
Quote:Competition between who? Between anyone and everyone who buys, sells, and uses the stuff being produced. Some will do it inside the bubble and be completely safe from all disruptions; some will do it outside of the bubble and won't be. That makes it brain-dead to do anything of the kind outside of the bubble and you've just ruined EVE at its very core.
All production must be open to disruption, or you've just robbed the game of its largest PvP area. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.31 16:39:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:Wouldn't everyone else just get it in the same way? They would still have to transport it all the way to null so the effort is not really reduced. Yes they would, and that's the entire problem. Transporting isn't all that difficult as it is, so what you've just done is remove all forms of logistical interdiction. You've made it impossible to affect the people who are affecting the rest of the universe.
Quote:You can't really do much with tritanium by itself. There are many things that cannot be sourced from hi-sec originally. Tritanium can be but morphite can't . Doesn't matter. You've still created an unassailable base of industrial production that affects the entire universe around it, but which is protected from any kind of influence in the other direction. This fundamentally breaks the very core of the game: the industry and the economy that drives it.
You're asking for godmode. If you don't understand why that is bad in a multiplayer game, there is no helping you. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.31 17:06:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:They hate us because we ate their cookies Yeah, you really shouldn't have done that.
They were left over from last Christmas. Enjoy the food poisoning. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.06.06 18:54:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Which makes me think you think this is a PVP centric game. It isn't. It is an economic centric game GǪwhich means it's a PvP-centric game since the entire economy is founded on a PvP market, which is supplied by a PvP industry that responds to a PvP-generated demand.
There is next to zero PvE, and what there is is purely incidental and just thrown in for giggles.
So you got that pretty much 100% backwards.
GǪoh, and yes, of course CEOs fly around in frigates. Why on earth shouldn't they? EVE isn't one of those fundamentally flawed games where bigger is better, after all. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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