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Posted - 2012.05.31 10:39:00 -
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EFF ONEF1 wrote:The whiners want to play the game their way with no interruption or outside factors unless they specifically go looking for it.
The people who "hate" them do not want them to play that way, they want them to play their way.
oversimplification
Not necessarily "our" way ... but just to realise that "yes, seriously, by clicking 'UNDOCK' you consented to PvP". Along with that, the acceptance that anyone can blap you anywhere at any time for any reason, and it's 100% "fair" within the confines of the game rules (sure, it stings ... and it has the potential to set you back days or weeks ... but someone can do the same thing to them [might even be YOU one day]) |
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Posted - 2012.05.31 10:49:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:You assume all Hi-Sec players = carebear sperglords likr yourself. The hate is directed at the whiners that want to change the game we've loved for years. Also the overwhelming influx of these whiners is worrying.
Eve is the last stronghold of worthwhile on-line gaming. Quiet simply, what they want is certain death for eve. What do they want? and how will it kill EVE?
What they want: 100% safe "on rails" experience, with optional PvP (see: WoW, SWTOR, etc as examples of this type of gameplay).
Why it will kill EVE: Because once you put things "on rails", you kill the sandbox. The sandbox is the main reason that I (and many other people) came to this game.
Sure, "sandbox" means you can play however you want ... and mining "in safety" can be done. You just have to realize that everyone else logged in can ALSO play however they want.
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Posted - 2012.05.31 11:08:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:
I take your point about putting the game "on rails", but if CCP could get a giant chunk of cash by allowing Hi-sec to go "themepark" would that be too much of an intrusion into the sandbox nature of the game? After all Hi-Sec is a very small part of the EVE universe.
Yes. CCP would have to spend countless hours on more and more PvE content ... and the "sandbox" side would suffer for it.
If you want to see what EvE would be like with a "no PVP" zone, check out Sisi.
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Posted - 2012.05.31 11:45:00 -
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pussnheels wrote: Another false statement nobody wants a100% safe region it goes against everything eve stands for, only the new players and the griefers want this
so if the new players and greifers want a 100% safe area... new players and griefers are nobody?
Or am I missing something key here?
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Posted - 2012.05.31 11:47:00 -
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I think they do ... but then things become "Oh, hey Bob ... we killed Steve again" ... it gets stale ... |
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:14:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:
My idea, as unfleshed out as it is, is that this "bubble" would seed players into the rest of EVE where they could find more enagaging game play. I admit that it requires more thought, particularly as to how it might impact on the wider economy, but would it have an overall negative impact on other players? The dog-eat-dog aspect of the rest of the Universe wouldn't change.
Let's say you're a nullsec alliance leader, and you need 250 million trit. you could mine it in nullsec, where it's dangerous ... OR you simply mine it in (or buy it from) hisec, where it's 100% safe, and jump it directly to where you need it to be.
NOW do you see why it's a problem? |
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