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Veloletum
Caldari Ourania Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.25 09:38:00 -
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Everyone needs to stop giving in to the buy orders of PLEX and keep your prices above 300Mil, lowering your prices will get your plex sold yes, but it also will result in prices staying that low. Everyone needs to band together to keep the prices high!!
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Nalik iIdeyu
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Posted - 2009.08.25 09:59:00 -
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Profit Per Unit of Time. If someone gets more of that by undercutting you, or even are trying to manipulate the market, then hey have a valid reason. Profit! |
Martosh Toma
Gallente Fraction Investment
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:01:00 -
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Everyone needs to stop giving in to the sell orders of plex and get prices to below 200m, biding more will get you your game time now yes, but it also will result in prices staying high. Everyone needs to band togeter to get prices low!
As if anyone is going to listen... it is all a question of supply and demand. at 300m ther is more supplie than demand, so prices wil drop until there is equilibrium. no forum post will shift those market forces easely. oh and plenty regions already sell below 300m. It pays to look around a bit if you need game time.
BTW the plex market is an intresting market, it is the only product that cannot move from region to region. In this market only the buyer can move.
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Veloletum
Caldari Ourania Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Veloletum on 25/08/2009 10:10:53
Originally by: Martosh Toma Everyone needs to stop giving in to the sell orders of plex and get prices to below 200m, biding more will get you your game time now yes, but it also will result in prices staying high. Everyone needs to band togeter to get prices low!
As if anyone is going to listen... it is all a question of supply and demand. at 300m ther is more supplie than demand, so prices wil drop until there is equilibrium. no forum post will shift those market forces easely. oh and plenty regions already sell below 300m. It pays to look around a bit if you need game time.
BTW the plex market is an intresting market, it is the only product that cannot move from region to region. In this market only the buyer can move.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Your a joke, i have looked around, need game time?? You obviously are blind to what i posted, im selling it, not in need of it. To the point of shifting it easily, i can surely try all i want to make a point, and i am quite aware that prices are below 300 in areas(which is extremely ridiculous).
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:17:00 -
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There's a simple fix for the deflation of PLEX: 1. Hire new players to EVE 2. Teach them how to make ISK enough to buy a PLEX each month
That way you increase demand and cause inflation. Very simple
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:18:00 -
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300m used to get you a 90d GTC. Harden the f' up. |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lanais Suleia 300m used to get you a 90d GTC. Harden the f' up.
I miss those days. Back then it was stupidly easy to scale industrial operations and make fat profit. After the inflation, it has become a lot harder.
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Veloletum
Caldari Ourania Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista There's a simple fix for the deflation of PLEX: 1. Hire new players to EVE 2. Teach them how to make ISK enough to buy a PLEX each month
That way you increase demand and cause inflation. Very simple
I can respect that reply, its all about how you approach things.
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Veloletum
Caldari Ourania Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Lanais Suleia 300m used to get you a 90d GTC. Harden the f' up.
I miss those days. Back then it was stupidly easy to scale industrial operations and make fat profit. After the inflation, it has become a lot harder.
Exactly as said, times have changed it. 300mil wont cut that anymore. So need to tell me to "Harden the f' up.".
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Per Bastet
Amarr B.O.O.M
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:48:00 -
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Your care bear Tears are Delicious. --
Bastet's Organization Of Mining |
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Veloletum
Caldari Ourania Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Per Bastet Your care bear Tears are Delicious.
If only she knew
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Karanth
Gallente Independent Fleet Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:20:00 -
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Well I mined my PLEX myself, so it didn't cost me anything, and if I can sell it faster by doing it for less then why shouldn't I? It's not my fault you bought yours for lots of money and want to sell it higher, and I can make lots of cash by undercutting you.
Maybe if you all mined for PLEX you could make way more money like me and live a life of affluence.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
Sorry, no. You have to go into wormholes and get farmed by the new AI NPCs like everyone else...
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Veloletum
Caldari Ourania Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth Well I mined my PLEX myself, so it didn't cost me anything, and if I can sell it faster by doing it for less then why shouldn't I? It's not my fault you bought yours for lots of money and want to sell it higher, and I can make lots of cash by undercutting you.
Maybe if you all mined for PLEX you could make way more money like me and live a life of affluence.
Why shouldn't you, you ask.. well because if you didnt lower the price and you have this "wonderful income from mining" then why lower your PLEX price? Make more bucks by keeping it high.
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Dealema
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:56:00 -
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I think you''l find that most people who read/post in this part of the forum are:
1) Buyers of PLEX and not sellers, so more liklely to prefer prices to stay low/go lower;
2) Sick and tired of reading "stop selling plexes for the price the market is curently dictating you n00bZors!!!" threads;
3) Able to make the logic behind your statement look more full of holes than Swiss cheese.
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Josh Silver
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Josh Silver on 25/08/2009 12:01:30 Wasn't 30day gametime like 80-90m at some time?
With a good chunk of PLEX buyers (afk/3rd world farmers) out of the game, that direction is where they're going
For the average player without science/production alts, 300m is anywhere from 8 to 20 hours of making iSK, not worth it at all to save 13 Euro.
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Martosh Toma
Gallente Fraction Investment
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:21:00 -
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hmm in a way it is a kind of funny generalization,
PVP people consume stuf they buy for isk and purchase/create plex they sell for isk. Market makers sit somewhere in the middle and get rich from both sides. Care bears consume plex they buy for isk and produce stuff they sell for isk.
Care bears and pvp-ers complain so much about each other and yet they are so very much depended on each other.
Veloletum, at least you laughed about it, and humor was part of the reason I posted (besides trying to manipulate the price down a bit ).
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Magnu Stormhawk
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:23:00 -
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I see two possibilities here:
1) Its a double bluff and the OP is actually a buyer who wants to add to the deflation hype and fuel the downward shift.
2) Its double dumb, and the OP really is a seller, who (a) thinks its worthwhile throwing a feeble attempt at saving his profits by asking other sellers not to sell, and (b) doesnt realise that the actual effect of the thread is against his interest.
Either way, roll on the crash cos i'm buying
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista There's a simple fix for the deflation of PLEX: 1. Hire new players to EVE 2. Teach them how to make ISK enough to buy a PLEX each month
That way you increase demand and cause inflation. Very simple
This.
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Ruddy Rax
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:09:00 -
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i'm making a fortune trading in plex's at the moment so long may the panic selling continue :D
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Mechanogrin
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Veloletum Everyone needs to stop giving in to the buy orders of PLEX and keep your prices above 300Mil, lowering your prices will get your plex sold yes, but it also will result in prices staying that low. Everyone needs to band together to keep the prices high!!
Heres what I heard: WAAAH!!! SELLING PLEX'S IS HOW I MAKE ISK!!! WAAHHH!! CONSOLE ME!!! WAAAH!!
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.25 15:01:00 -
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If plexes drop to 90m p/u, I'll start playing off plexes instead of my credit card.
Hell, if they drop to 150m p/u, I'd probably do it.
Buyers exist... just not at the price point existent. Please continue to burn a downward trend until PvP lazybies like me can buy plex at prices we can afford in between blowing up ships.
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Dark Soldat
Caldari The Green Machine Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Martosh Toma Everyone needs to stop giving in to the sell orders of plex and get prices to below 200m, biding more will get you your game time now yes, but it also will result in prices staying high. Everyone needs to band togeter to get prices low!
As if anyone is going to listen... it is all a question of supply and demand. at 300m ther is more supplie than demand, so prices wil drop until there is equilibrium. no forum post will shift those market forces easely. oh and plenty regions already sell below 300m. It pays to look around a bit if you need game time.
BTW the plex market is an intresting market, it is the only product that cannot move from region to region. In this market only the buyer can move.
This tbfh
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Bret Caliaro
Fortuna inc. Leather Rose Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:16:00 -
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I'll be trying to help bring prices down just for the ****s and giggles. _________________________________________________
I'm a so very lazy, so I play smart not hard. |
Doomed Predator
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bret Caliaro I'll be trying to help bring prices down just for the ****s and giggles.
Good man, hope they fall to 250 mill or something like that. The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:06:00 -
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I wonder if CCP will ever have NPC buy orders to set a minimum value. It is in CCP's best interest for people to trade PLEX rather than enticing people to go through a RMT.
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Bret Caliaro
Fortuna inc. Leather Rose Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:11:00 -
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The truth is though, since the isk farmers have been banned isk has become more valuable so PLEX are worth less isk, which suits me fine. _________________________________________________
I'm a so very lazy, so I play smart not hard. |
Karanth
Gallente Independent Fleet Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:32:00 -
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It's ok, I just went and probed out a PLEX plex, and using my hacking mods I uncovered a cache of PLEX!!! So now you know there are lots of PLEX now to solve this shortage of PLEX you were talking about OP!
Just came back from the market after unloading them all for a cool 200mil each.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
Sorry, no. You have to go into wormholes and get farmed by the new AI NPCs like everyone else...
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Secondskin
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:40:00 -
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Successful price cartels rarely operate by way of public plea.
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Wieting Foyu
Gallente Foyu Trading World
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dealema I think you''l find that most people who read/post in this part of the forum are:
1) Buyers of PLEX and not sellers, so more liklely to prefer prices to stay low/go lower;
2) Sick and tired of reading "stop selling plexes for the price the market is curently dictating you n00bZors!!!" threads;
3) Able to make the logic behind your statement look more full of holes than Swiss cheese.
This x2. Try finding a PLEX BPO like I did. EVE is much simpler now.
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Veebring Greetings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:41:00 -
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Ohhh elite PVP-bear tears, the more the merrier.
Thats the way the ISKies go, Pop goes the carrier
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