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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 04:01:00 -
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How do you Vote Yes on the removal of local in Null space?
Just click the Like button on https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110995&find=unread
This post contains the removal of Local completely but the majority of replies are on removing Local in 0.0
0.0 has become a safer place to mine than Hi-sec 0.0 Alliances are funding Hulkagedon knowing that there own hulks are safe.
In 0.0 any one that shows up in Local who is not blue is prosecuted and killed. In Hi-sec you cannot tell the wolf from the sheep.
Without local in 0.0 these Alliances would have to actively patrol all parts of their sovereign space not just the outer edge.
This was shown to all of EVE that 0.0 must be too safe if these Alliances can abandon their space to come and burn Jita without fear for territory they have claimed in supposedly lawless space.
If we get enough likes maybe we could have it elected to next years CSM , Just send a cardboard cutout to Iceland with a speech bubble on it that says "Remove Local in Null". It would probably do a better job of fixing EvE than some of the members of past CSM's. This last bit is a joke but not that far off the truth.
This is NOT a forum for replies on the issue. Those occur here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110995&find=unread for removal of Local in Null and here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110157&find=unread for all the rest of the discussion on the stagnant hole 0.0 has become.
Joke replies however are always welcome. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 04:06:00 -
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Keep those Joke replies coming:) Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 04:41:00 -
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Spineker wrote:No
Learn to adapt and all that other horseshit people tell highsec players Wouldn't the removal of local be more like making the Null sec carebears adapt by not giving them free intel. You know like the Hi-sec players have too.
It's 0.0 lawless space HTFU Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 04:45:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:op you are the most pathetic kind of scum wagon jumping me-tooing everything you see on the gd, low even for the gd, oh i am anti goon, but now i am going to start ganking too let's not forget how creepy you were for issler dainze a few months back
lurk more, read up on nickyo, masternerdguy, and those other regulars, count to ten before you post. christ Thanks:) Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 04:53:00 -
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To be honest I love those ideas, I just think CCP would stuff them up or come up with some wonderful idea to make them "Better" that is why I am promoting the easier option of removing local in null. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 05:09:00 -
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Chunicha wrote:Posting in a thread created by an idiot who doesnt realize removing local from 0.0 would make it essentially the same as W-space I, too, enjoy killing variety and gameplay options in my sandbox. 0.0 without Local is nothing like Wormhole space go read the whole argument thread it was brought up several times and shot down in flames by different people.
So the glib reply I always give is "You think Null and WH are the same go try to get sovereignty in one." Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 05:13:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote: let's not forget how creepy you were for issler dainze a few months back
never forget Yeah for my next amazing trick I might even try to get a member of Goonwarm to finish an entire term on the CSM. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 05:23:00 -
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Chunicha wrote:There is a reason why CCP doesnt listen to the tunnel-vision idiots such as yourself, they have a bigger picture of things A bigger picture of things like when they released Incarna? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 06:23:00 -
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Strange Shadow wrote:Nullsec already pays for local's intel with Sov bills.
Requesting removal of local in highsec instead, they didnt paid for it and they have concord already. Its used for jita scamming only anyway.
Pls vote for removing highsec local, that would attract more people to null. The argument is very simple
Empire is space controlled by empires with trillions of citizens, these empires can make skill books, bpos and so much more including the technology for local.
Sovereignty space is controlled by thousands of people only and is completely insignificant to an Empire. The easiest way to put this forward would be to say the upkeep of the local system in empire costs a fortune, higher than these fledgling Alliances can afford. Not to mention if you had technology like that would you just give it away? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 06:40:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote: let's not forget how creepy you were for issler dainze a few months back
never forget Yeah for my next amazing trick I might even try to get a member of Goonwarm to finish an entire term on the CSM. Like in CSM 1,2,3, and 4, you mean? Oh you mean the very CSM's that where totted by the Goonswarm in the last CSM elections as useless and nothing more than a PR stunt. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 07:53:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:No.
Aside from the usual argument, removing local would significantly reduce the chance of engagement/fights and made it far harder to collect useful intel for fleet engagements and small gang roams. Fleet battles, small gang roams are some of the reasons people go to null in the first place. So your argument is keep it for the same reasons the population is so low atm. 0.0 should be so much more than easy Pvp.
EvE is not only a PvP game, strangely CCP decided to make other parts of the game like missions, mining, trading and so much more. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 07:58:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Yeah this is a great idea. Make 0.0 even less enjoyable to live in than it is already. I'm sure that will attract people to live out there in droves. Pretty much this. Every time Frying Doom is pushed on this, all he does is respond with "well that's just, like, your opinion, man!", even though he himself says that nullsec is more depopulated than it should be, and the risk vs reward aspect is broken. So he wants to fix that by making it riskier still, and expects that suddenly the hisec population will see that nullsec is a hardcore place and suddenly man up and go out there in droves. I don't quite understand his logic, but that's why we keep getting these topics, because of people like himi, with his weird sense of logic. vOv It would make Pvp harder but also more strategic as you would not be able to get instant information as to your oponents size for one thing and it would create a system that would favour the attentive rather than the current system that favours the lazy.
There are alot of other points that I have made repeatedly but Zim doesn't seem to be able to read. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 07:59:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:i dunno where his plan of highsec pubbies waging a guerilla war on goons' mining backbone could go wrong. Clearly the one barrier must be the existence of local. Oh another "I can't be bothered to read, so I will just comment anyway" post. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 08:06:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:What happened to adapt or die? Or does that only apply when things work in your favor? Good quote and it really sums it up doesn't it. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 08:21:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Shian Yang wrote:Get voter support for it as authorised in the CSM charter - there is a special button / checkbox to support a CSM topic. If it gains a certain level of support they are FORCED to consider it. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Forced by who? The CSM pushes it's own personal agenda. An agenda that is comprised of the entities that put them there. Seriously what rock have you been living under? The current meeting in Iceland is looking at removing the [Proposal] header in Assembly hall.
Seleene wrote:Malcanis wrote:Does posting in the assembly hall still have any value as far as you are concerned?
If so, please quantify that value. TBH, it's actually something we're going to discuss at the summit. ATM it does seem to be the step-child of the forums.
So at the moment there is not much point in it.
Even though the welcome message still says
"How it works: In order to raise an issue, simply create a new thread. In the title write a brief description and in the body, give as many details about your idea as possible. Any person replying to the thread can check a box to show support for the issue, which provides at-a-glance on the thread listing how supported an idea is. If a CSM member wants to raise an issue in a meeting, they are only allowed to select issues arising from threads in the Assembly hall, and only threads that are at least a week old."
The voting on issues is a process that occurs during the CSM elections I believe.
Yeah the post by Marlona Sky was right they all have their own agenda and that is part of why they are there, large threads on the other hand do eventually get the eye of CCP one way or the other. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:01:00 -
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Just 27 more likes to go and the No local for 0.0 thread could run for the CSM.
Please press like at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110995&find=unread Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:05:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:wrong forum, do not pass go, do not collect $200 Strange I click on the link and it takes me to the forum titled "Grow some extremely durable genitalia."
Were does your send you? Null bear land. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:16:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Yeah, the one that's in General Discussion and not Assembly Hall (which is where proposals with enough likes are eligible for CSM consideration, not GD). Meaning this whole thread was a dumb misinformed waste of time. Which it would have been anyway GD or no-GD. Oh except the CSM just discussed this in the last couple of days and the system may or may not be valid anymore, no one but the CSM and CCP knows.
Read more type less. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:36:00 -
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Kitfox Mikakka wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Yeah, the one that's in General Discussion and not Assembly Hall (which is where proposals with enough likes are eligible for CSM consideration, not GD). Meaning this whole thread was a dumb misinformed waste of time. Which it would have been anyway GD or no-GD. Oh except the CSM just discussed this in the last couple of days and the system may or may not be valid anymore, no one but the CSM and CCP knows. Read more type less. Well if the system won't be valid (IE, it doesn't need to be in Assembly Hall), what the hell makes you think it'd still use the same rules regarding numbers of likes and whatnot? Come on dude. Do you people ever read anything?
I said "Just 27 more likes to go and the No local for 0.0 thread could run for the CSM."
Implying that because the number of likes in the last CSM election required to appear on the ballot was 100'.
On the opening post I said "If we get enough likes maybe we could have it elected to next years CSM , Just send a cardboard cutout to Iceland with a speech bubble on it that says "Remove Local in Null". It would probably do a better job of fixing EvE than some of the members of past CSM's."
I think we now have come to the root of the problem. The people that are continuously arguing against the implementation of "No local in Null", NEVER read anything. They just type letters and hit the POST button with never a thought passing between their ears. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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