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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:53:00 -
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G'day,
I usually don't post here so excuse any poosible and obvious oversite but anyway..
Recently I joined Amarr faction warfare for a change of atmosphere, it's pretty enjoyable, minus one thing.
The markets in amarr space, especially on the border of amaar lowsec are terrible.
The closest decent trade hub that I know of is Amarr, though thats 9 j + from the bordering systems of fw.
Theres a huge lack of many t2 mods, especially for non-amarr races, for the entire area. This is strange considering Ohide, a system about 3 jumps from the fw lowsec systems, is a major mission hub.
The point is, theres some iskies to be made for the venturing production tycoon to profit off the fw near the area. Some particular t2 needs in short supply are ships (t1 is poor as well, if not worse for ships, I didn't look at many, but most caldari ships are limited/non-existent) and certain mods e.g. 75mm gattling rail II (Very popular on frigates, dessies, af's etc). Not to mention the massive demand for rigs since the rig changes (main ships used in fw are frig-cruiser size). Im sure's theres loads more, I haven't researched deeply into it.
The skilled producer will soon snuff out whats in short supply, and profit hugely from inflated prices, supply/demmand and all that. Ohide sounds like a decent future hub..
The reason I post is because I'm sick of trekking years just to fit out a basic t2 frigate, so please benefit yourself and fw players soon!
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Dzil
Caldari Halo Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:59:00 -
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profit = margin * volume.
I'm guessing the supply shortage there is due to a lack of demand. But, I'd recommend you test the waters! Courier out a small shipment of T2, post the sell orders, and see how long it takes to move pvpish t2 mods. You could have just stumbled onto your own private goldmine!
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: BiggestT on 26/08/2009 15:09:29 Well, I don't really have the capital to do anything of that sort and still afford basic pvp etc.
I'd probly give it a whirl if I had the investment ability, but alas I dont.
Besides, I'm perfectly happy foe another person to reap the rewards as long as I don't have to hunt all day for a damn frig gun lol. EVE history
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Dzil
Caldari Halo Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:15:00 -
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Hmm.
Trouble with market tips, is you never really know which ones will pan out, and which ones are just trying to get you to buy something overpriced.
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dzil Hmm.
Trouble with market tips, is you never really know which ones will pan out, and which ones are just trying to get you to buy something overpriced.
True. Well, all I know is that fw has provided at least some impotus for market development in the area, since more non-amarr capsulers now occupy the area. Theres a semi-decent hub around 5 j from low sec, starts with an E, long name lol it slips my mind. This hub has quite a few basics, including the more popular t2 mods, though it definately has holes in areas such as non-Amarr mods and ships..
Might work, might not, if no one even bothers well then I'm no worse off since before posting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:27:00 -
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OP, you would not neet to post on the forum if you checked the sales volume history in those systems.
I tried stuffing some items around the Amarr peripheral systems but you sell like 1-2 items per day. Not worth the bother. - Auditing and consulting
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:34:00 -
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Ahh K..
That's strange, U'd think FW would encourage much stimulus, especailly in the way of frig type mods/ships...
Guess it's back to the 9 jump slogs then! -.- EVE history
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Dzil
Caldari Halo Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:38:00 -
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I'm sure it generates some, just not quite enough to reach "mission hub"/major Jump point status. Definately no Torrinos. I'd recommend investing a little capital there and marking things up 200% or so. Either a bigger supplier will move in and undercut you, or you'll make bank, and can continue to triple your investment till it covers the market you want.
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Yelan Zhou
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:59:00 -
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At the begining of FW I sold alot of goods there. But now the sales are realy realy low, this is due lack of interest in FW and people are shiping in stuff en masse from Amarr. Nice thing was to be able to capture plexes and adjusting my sell orders while circling the button.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: BiggestT Ahh K..
That's strange, U'd think FW would encourage much stimulus, especailly in the way of frig type mods/ships...
Guess it's back to the 9 jump slogs then! -.-
The prominent FW corps have their own internal production and sales (i.e. ours did when we were in FW) so cross the big buyers off the list.
The "poor" randoms tend to fly cheap T1 frigates, the piratey guys tend to fit with what they kill or have an high sec hauler alt.
So what's left are casual players who need a module every now and then and that CBA going to Amarr. - Auditing and consulting
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:13:00 -
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Profits are decent, but volumes are too low for the hassle.
As said, many corps or even individuals have their own supply and production lines. ____
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Salbeca
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:33:00 -
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I can confirm there is of course a hole there, but it's just not enough volume to bother filling. Only thing I could see is maybe selling ammo, drones and cap boosters. Other than that I think it would be more hassle than it's worth.
Even the market in Amamake is a bit slow and that system is very busy for a low sec system. What is worse, is I often see things for sale there cheaper than in Rens which is of course the largest Minmatar trade hub and only 3 jumps away.
I've tried playing on the market there with frigs and their fittings. The problem is someone always comes in and dumps a bunch of stuff on the market at Rens prices, making it not worth the risk or hassle inb most cases.
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Jehosephat Godlittle
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.08.28 17:26:00 -
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The margins for inventors are too thin due to the competition with T2 BPO owners. This is noticeable especially in low-demand markets who are mostly fed through resellers anyway. Due to this, T2 invention is only profitable in Jita where the volume is large enough to allow T2 inventors to compete with the market share not covered by T2 BPO production capacity.
Also, the 9 jump distance is too little a hurdle to increase the margin to profitable levels for the customers you're thinking about trading with.
Reselling might be an option if you've got the Isk, enough patience, and don't mind flying up and down to Jita. Away from Jita, invention is not profitable enough to warrant the hassle.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.28 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jehosephat Godlittle The margins for inventors are too thin due to the competition with T2 BPO owners. This is noticeable especially in low-demand markets who are mostly fed through resellers anyway. Due to this, T2 invention is only profitable in Jita where the volume is large enough to allow T2 inventors to compete with the market share not covered by T2 BPO production capacity.
Also, the 9 jump distance is too little a hurdle to increase the margin to profitable levels for the customers you're thinking about trading with.
Reselling might be an option if you've got the Isk, enough patience, and don't mind flying up and down to Jita. Away from Jita, invention is not profitable enough to warrant the hassle.
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.08.28 18:04:00 -
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The major Caldari stageing point is three jumps from Jita. It's great. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Forge Lag
Jita Lag Preservation Fund
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Posted - 2009.08.28 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Salbeca What is worse, is I often see things for sale there cheaper than in Rens which is of course the largest Minmatar trade hub and only 3 jumps away.
That is pretty much all OP needs to know.
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