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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
740
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Posted - 2012.06.02 23:41:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote: anger and hatred are different.
GÇ£Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.GÇ¥ Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.06.02 23:48:00 -
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Personally, everyone needs to chill the **** out. I know eve is incredibly immersive to some, including myself, but don't get so pissed when you get ganked. It's just a game. It's not like your ship or modules are one-of-a-kind. There are thousands of hulks you can buy. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
Lord Zim
747
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Posted - 2012.06.02 23:58:00 -
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NO I WILL NOT CHILL THE **** OUT I MUST RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE |
Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.06.03 00:09:00 -
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If no one has died in RL then its all good. Also when it gets to LOATHING start to worry. |
Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.06.03 00:27:00 -
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The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS.
Quote: Rule number 3
You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .
I made the important part rather easy to see.
Now why is that post still there? Winmatar > Everything else |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 00:39:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Quote: Rule number 3
You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .
I made the important part rather easy to see. Now why is that post still there?
Yes let's trivialize actual social problems by comparing pixel destruction to them
By that rule all of CVA should be be permabanned for their "hate-mongering philosophy" and covering it up with "role-playing" eh |
Lord Zim
747
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Posted - 2012.06.03 00:45:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Now why is that post still there? Presumably because it's not "hate-mongering philosophies". Have you tried petitioning/reporting the post? Did you get a response? What did it say? |
Ayame Tao
49
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Posted - 2012.06.03 00:50:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS. Quote: Rule number 3
You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .
I made the important part rather easy to see. Now why is that post still there?
Because 'hate-mongering philosophies' does not extend to professing the dislike of your pixelated mining vessel.
This refers to 'hate-crime' which is something you can be arrested and go to prison for - and for which CCP could be liable if they are shown to be allowing and/or condoning it.
People really need to get some context when reading documents that are designed to protect the rights of players and the company. They are not written to cover your butthurt at being ganked. Ganking is not a hate crime.
If you are really misinfomred enough to believe that somebody blowing your stuff up in a computer gamne is a hate crime, I suggest you report the crime to the police, engage a lawyer and sue CCP. Good luck with that. |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.06.03 00:55:00 -
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All I know is these boards are getting ugly. Very ugly. All I hear is goons this and goons that, it's like you people are the villiagers from goons village. |
Denidil
Larimer Highlands Heavy Industries
274
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:02:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Denidil wrote:Step 1: give hulk's much better buffer tanks yes you can do this by fitting a Damage Control II, Micro Auxiliary Power Core II, Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction, two Adaptive Invulnerability Field IIs, an EM or thermic hardener and two Medium Core Defense Field Extender Is
i know how to buffer a hulk, i do have an alt that can use it and has mined a fair bit in it (highsec, nullsec, w-space) and that tank is still pathetic. This High Sec vs Null sec pissing and gank fight is fracking up the economy.. stop being stupid people, miners provide the materials for the ships you fly. |
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Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:15:00 -
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Ayame Tao wrote:Saladinae wrote:The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS. Quote: Rule number 3
You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .
I made the important part rather easy to see. Now why is that post still there? Because 'hate-mongering philosophies' does not extend to professing the dislike of your pixelated mining vessel. This refers to 'hate-crime' which is something you can be arrested and go to prison for - and for which CCP could be liable if they are shown to be allowing and/or condoning it. People really need to get some context when reading documents that are designed to protect the rights of players and the company. They are not written to cover your butthurt at being ganked. Ganking is not a hate crime. If you are really misinfomred enough to believe that somebody blowing your stuff up in a computer gamne is a hate crime, I suggest you report the crime to the police, engage a lawyer and sue CCP. Good luck with that.
The title of the thread alone is a reference to ******'s infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf. EDIT: Actually the name HIT++L+E+R is so offensive on it's own that it's not allowed to appear in my response to you.
Any CCP employee or Dev can see that the word Solomon is in my account name. So as Jew I find it doubly offensive that one would make a hate-driven work based on that theme. Without a doubt that thread leaves the "grey" territory and enters the"black" territory. Winmatar > Everything else |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7619
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:18:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:The title of the thread alone is a reference to ******'s infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf. In what way? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Be a smarter newbie, don't fall into the trap of lvl V skills. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:19:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:The title of the thread alone is a reference to ******'s infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf.
It's not and you should feel ashamed for trivializing one of the worst atrocities in history because your Hulk got ganked eh |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
290
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:22:00 -
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Degren wrote:Nick Bison wrote:Degren wrote:Nick Bison wrote:abloobloobloo Didn't you quit? That's the best you could come up with? So sad, so very sad. Please explain to me why you think you are worthy of ~effort~ Edit: Nah, nm. Didn't you quit?
No need to explain, you wouldn't "get it" anyway with out it written in crayon.
Quit, well no .. I have unsubbed. Still have 5 days left. Will be back when my RL commitments calm the F down. Probably fall time.
Nothing clever at this time. |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
340
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:26:00 -
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Hate really only matters in this case if you let it get to you. If you don't want to read things that make you feel negative emotions, then don't read them. The great thing about the game is you don't need to listen to anyone you don't want to. You aren't required to read the forums and you can always right click a name and select ignore. Making a post like this only encourages goons to keep doing what they do. They like to see people get worked up and "harvest tears" from people. That might be sad and a pathetic way to get attention, but you got to give them props for how effective they are. In the end though, if you want to annoy goons the most, just ignore them and not giving them the attention they crave. It's pretty easy actually. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:27:00 -
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Nick Bison wrote:Quit, well no .. I have unsubbed. Still have 5 days left. Will be back when my RL commitments calm the F down.
So much for "I'm done" eh |
Lord Zim
747
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Posted - 2012.06.03 01:31:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:The title of the thread alone is a reference to ******'s infamous manifesto: Mein Kampf. EDIT: Actually the name HIT++L+E+R is so offensive on it's own that it's not allowed to appear in my response to you.
Any CCP employee or Dev can see that the word Solomon is in my account name. So as Jew I find it doubly offensive that one would make a hate-driven work based on that theme. Without a doubt that thread leaves the "grey" territory and enters the"black" territory. Is this guy referring to mein kampf? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution:_A_Manifesto Is this a reference to ******'s mein kampf? http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/20421
Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to ******. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it certainly does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them. |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1867
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:30:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Without a doubt that thread leaves the "grey" territory and enters the"black" territory. Why is "black" a bad thing? |
Saladinae
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:35:00 -
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Lord Zim
Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to ******. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it [i wrote:certainly[/i] does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them.
Looks like I finally hit you where it hurts.
Not only does his title insinuate it, but the content is about "erasing miners from existence."
Here is reference to the Jews being blamed for economic recession in Germany and how they were "greedy."
Quote: "Whichever side you're on in this debate--whether you hate the highsec miners or totally support them--I think we can all agree that highsec miners are despicable in both their actions and in their intrinsic nature. A highsec miner is fundamentally going to inspire disgust. What they think, the way they feel about things, their attitudes, beliefs, all of it.
Everyone knows that a highsec miner is motivated by greed. And not just a desire to gain, which could equally be attributed to the conquerors of nullsec, but a particular kind of senseless, materialistic greed."
They're guilty
He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read. Winmatar > Everything else |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1867
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:48:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read. Your very own thread? Right here in GD, for everyone to see? You wouldn't! |
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Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:48:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:The linked thread certainly violates this rule in the TOS. Quote: Rule number 3
You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies .
I made the important part rather easy to see. Now why is that post still there?
There is more dumb buttmad in this post than I know what to do with. Would you try and relate your "persecution" over your mining vessel to an actual hol*caust survivor?
I imagine if you did you'd have a 90-year old kicking your butt so hard your great-great-grandchildren would feel it. |
Lord Zim
747
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:49:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Lord Zim
Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to ******. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it [i wrote:certainly[/i] does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them. Looks like I finally hit you where it hurts. Not only does his title insinuate it, but the content is about "erasing miners from existence." Here is reference to the Jews being blamed for economic recession in Germany and how they were "greedy." Quote: "Whichever side you're on in this debate--whether you hate the highsec miners or totally support them--I think we can all agree that highsec miners are despicable in both their actions and in their intrinsic nature. A highsec miner is fundamentally going to inspire disgust. What they think, the way they feel about things, their attitudes, beliefs, all of it.
Everyone knows that a highsec miner is motivated by greed. And not just a desire to gain, which could equally be attributed to the conquerors of nullsec, but a particular kind of senseless, materialistic greed."
They're guilty
He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read. Christ. I have no words. It's exactly people like you who make the world a worse place for everyone. I'll bet you somehow manage to make me calling you a whiny, overly sensitive little dipshit into a political statement about jews as well.
Biomass your character and go back to politically correct land, where everything anyone says is a reference to something bad. **** off. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:50:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Lord Zim
Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to ******. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it [i wrote:certainly[/i] does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them. Looks like I finally hit you where it hurts. Not only does his title insinuate it, but the content is about "erasing miners from existence." Here is reference to the Jews being blamed for economic recession in Germany and how they were "greedy." Quote: "Whichever side you're on in this debate--whether you hate the highsec miners or totally support them--I think we can all agree that highsec miners are despicable in both their actions and in their intrinsic nature. A highsec miner is fundamentally going to inspire disgust. What they think, the way they feel about things, their attitudes, beliefs, all of it.
Everyone knows that a highsec miner is motivated by greed. And not just a desire to gain, which could equally be attributed to the conquerors of nullsec, but a particular kind of senseless, materialistic greed."
They're guilty
He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read.
I liked the part where you trivialized the murder of more than 6 million Jews, Africans, Gypsies, Gays, and various other groups. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:53:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Saladinae wrote:Lord Zim
Listen, you overly sensitive little dweeb, just because it uses the word "manifesto", doesn't mean you can interpret it into being a reference to ******. I don't care if you're a jew, that does not give you carte blanche to assume everything is about one of the worst atrocities in history, and it [i wrote:certainly[/i] does not give you the ******* right to liken it to the ganking of hulks. It's not even remotely similar, and you should feel ashamed for trying to draw the association between them. Looks like I finally hit you where it hurts. Not only does his title insinuate it, but the content is about "erasing miners from existence." Here is reference to the Jews being blamed for economic recession in Germany and how they were "greedy." Quote: "Whichever side you're on in this debate--whether you hate the highsec miners or totally support them--I think we can all agree that highsec miners are despicable in both their actions and in their intrinsic nature. A highsec miner is fundamentally going to inspire disgust. What they think, the way they feel about things, their attitudes, beliefs, all of it.
Everyone knows that a highsec miner is motivated by greed. And not just a desire to gain, which could equally be attributed to the conquerors of nullsec, but a particular kind of senseless, materialistic greed."
They're guilty
He cannot deny what James 315 wrote in his thread. If you continue to defend I'll make my own public thread right here in GD explaining as to why his thread should be deleted. Locking his thread was not enough, it's still there for people to read. Christ. I have no words. It's exactly people like you who make the world a worse place for everyone. I'll bet you somehow manage to make me calling you a whiny, overly sensitive little dipshit into a political statement about jews as well. Biomass your character and go back to politically correct land, where everything anyone says is a reference to something bad. **** off.
If you want to get technical, I'll bet Saladtosser or whatever his name is's posts could count as hate speech. Since he is completely trivializing the holocaust. It's pretty much right next to outright denying it. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2006
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:53:00 -
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Wait! WHAT?!??
You have got to be kiddin' me.
Quote:man-+i-+fes-+to GÇé GÇé[man-uh-fes-toh] Show IPA noun, plural man-+i-+fes-+toes. a public declaration of intentions, opinions, objectives, or motives, as one issued by a government, sovereign, or organization.
I put in the definition since apparently some people don't know what a Manifesto is. Note the lack of references to hate crimes or famous WW2 political personalities. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Reina Supremus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.06.03 02:59:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote: I liked the part where you trivialized the murder of more than 6 million Jews, Africans, Gypsies, Gays, and various other groups.
I cannot believe that your denying the obvious HATRED in that guys thread and how it intentionally reads as a call to genocide miners.
It's time you bring out a forum moderator CCP. Show us your true colors.
In case the moderator himself in unaware in the ToS
Quote: "You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies."
That thread is certainly based on Adolph's manifesto. |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1867
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Posted - 2012.06.03 03:10:00 -
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Reina Supremus wrote:I cannot believe that your denying the obvious HATRED in that guys thread and how it intentionally reads as a call to genocide miners. And what about all of the carebears' calls to go to VFK and genocide all the Goons? Is that not inspired by the Wagner classic, Goonerd+ñmmerung? You are conveniently silent on that point. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.03 03:12:00 -
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Reina Supremus wrote:Alia Gon'die wrote: I liked the part where you trivialized the murder of more than 6 million Jews, Africans, Gypsies, Gays, and various other groups.
I cannot believe that your denying the obvious HATRED in that guys thread and how it intentionally reads as a call to genocide miners. It's time you bring out a forum moderator CCP. Show us your true colors. In case the moderator himself in unaware in the ToS Quote: "You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies."
That thread is certainly based on Adolph's manifesto.
Are you really equating words made against internet spaceships with the call to literally erase entire races of people from the face of the earth? Do you really want to go down that path? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2006
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Posted - 2012.06.03 03:18:00 -
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Reina Supremus wrote:Alia Gon'die wrote: I liked the part where you trivialized the murder of more than 6 million Jews, Africans, Gypsies, Gays, and various other groups.
I cannot believe that your denying the obvious HATRED in that guys thread and how it intentionally reads as a call to genocide miners. It's time you bring out a forum moderator CCP. Show us your true colors. In case the moderator himself in unaware in the ToS Quote: "You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies."
That thread is certainly based on Adolph's manifesto.
You do realize that they are referring to real groups of people, not fictitious ones like space miners right?
Most of this game is based on the hatred of, killing of, enslaving of fictitious groups of people based on race and/or religious back ground. Key word being fictitious.
Mining asteroids is a fictitious vocation, at least for the moment.
I can freely state "death to all Minmatar" without fear of censure (although possibly at risk of some laughter). I can also freely state "I hate all asteroid miners."
Why? Because it's a game, dumbass.
In fact, I could quote word for word the most infamous hate doctrines in recorded history and simply swap whomever they originally referred to with the term "space miner"... and you know what it would be when I was done?
Hilarious, if in admittedly bad taste. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Haldor Rune
State War Academy Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2012.06.03 04:30:00 -
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Pass around the peace pipe! |
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