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Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:16:00 -
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I do not really know what you guys are planning, but real problem is not the rats in plexes.
there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes. |
Dopified
Quantum Cats Syndicate
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:23:00 -
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BolsterBomb wrote: Believe it or not (Dopified wont) some of us who plex actually plex in certain systems for a specific reason...hint hint hint
Im hoping you can read in between the lines : ie station lock out / travel / reship / problem
So what are you implying Bolster? I have am having troubles seeing what you are trying to say about me. Just the Moron in me I guess. Maybe this
1. I dont plex? ="Dopified" victoryPoints="122654" But where are you on the list? Oh wait your not. But i do plex for a reason not to just decontest systems.
2. Because i am just carebearing? Dopified http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=672815 BolsterBomb http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=530431
My killboard is not impressive compared to most
Bolster when you where in XMETA your source of income was your pos's and planetary interaction which allowed you to fuel your pos's. When these got nerf you rage quit eve because your source of income was being crapped on. It was no longer as lucrative to make isk off of what you had set up and not destroy your standings with your other toons that have high SP so you quit. Now that it is in the works to change the NPC's in plexing so that it is not easy for brand new alts to run the plexes your source of income is being threatened again. You dont want you standings on your main toons to be hit by crashing them in militia so it is easy to have a no SP toon to tank the best plexes LP/HR. You have complained about standing before and wanted to be in militia. So this is threatening your source of income and you are no happy about it so you post against most players and CCP. THIS IS THE SAME AS BEFORE. This is why i posted what i did I CALL IT AS I SEE IT.
Bolster back in the day I brought you into XMETA when no other gallente corp would want to look at you. I advised Froz that you where a good guy. After doing so I took a ton of flack for bringing you in. People wanted you gone from militia so that you would not join thier fleets. I cannot tell you how many people private convoed me sent messages and told this to me on comms. They complained about Failed intel when scouting or just being annoying. I can tell you this you really know how to CRAP on people who have been good to you or just nice. Well i can say you just added another person to you long list of people who dislike you now. |
Dopified
Quantum Cats Syndicate
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:28:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:I do not really know what you guys are planning, but real problem is not the rats in plexes.
there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes.
I am finding it funny how caldari are the only ones who are resisting this topic and dont want it changed. |
Dynast
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
43
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:00:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:chatgris wrote: Except gallente alts cannot afk plex anywhere NEAR as effectively as caldari alts due to the difference in NPC mechanics.
Gallente afk plexing alts can plex as nearly effectively as caldari alts except it requires a few more skill points and 5 million isk instead of 50k isk per loss. (self repping incursus) "Kill all rats" solution would lead to drone boats being used in plexes for "afk" plexing. Maybe Caldari boats with f.o.f missiles (?? don't know mechanics of f.o.f) The difference would be that you would need to bring ships which are capable of applying dps for the appropriate sized plex. No more condors or incursuses solo'ing majors, but perhaps an "afk" imicus soloing minors. This is a realistic goal, IMO. This would be a reasonable solution.. have the button stop at 30 seconds or something as long as there are NPCs remaining. (and for the love of god make sure the NPCs are coded like belt rats, to burn back to the button when they're dragged off past a couple hundred K, so people can't make enemy alts and bug out the plexes, there's enough of that going on already). |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
100
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:13:00 -
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Dopified wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:I do not really know what you guys are planning, but real problem is not the rats in plexes.
there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes. I am finding it funny how caldari are the only ones who are resisting this topic and dont want it changed.
They're still going to have by far the most useful rats (well, tied with Minmatar I guess, never ran against minnie rats) With the proposed changes a caldari guy can burn 30 off the rats in a caracal or drake, take no damage have no ewar and shoot with impunity.
A gallente guy will still have to deal with the incoming damage.
But the proposed changes are most definitely an improvement. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
488
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:20:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Screw this, I am out.
Can I have your stuff? |
Dopified
Quantum Cats Syndicate
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:25:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Dopified wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:I do not really know what you guys are planning, but real problem is not the rats in plexes.
there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes. I am finding it funny how caldari are the only ones who are resisting this topic and dont want it changed. They're still going to have by far the most useful rats (well, tied with Minmatar I guess, never ran against minnie rats) With the proposed changes a caldari guy can burn 30 off the rats in a caracal or drake, take no damage have no ewar and shoot with impunity. A gallente guy will still have to deal with the incoming damage. But the proposed changes are most definitely an improvement.
Let me ask you this Chat for a temporary fix. If all rats missile spammed like caldari rats do and you took the ewar away would this not be a good temporary fix until a long term solution could be found? EW NPC's removed or not who cares we are just talking about the incoming damage.
And yes i know and will say to CCP you would get even more grief for making the rats the same for all by being blamed Gallente bias. I would understand if you would not want to open that can of worms. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
226
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:26:00 -
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Dopified wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:You do know what you are talking about, caldari plexes can be easily tanked with t1 frig as solo even with quite low skill points. Very true we can run plexes in t1 frigs. But you neglect to mention that we can not do this in Major plexes and in med this can not be done afk unless you fully fit out a dual rep cap stable frig and only in med plexes. Again no pvp. If you can please put forward the Ship and Fit with instruction on how to orbit. I would like to see explanation and evidence instead of half truths and misleading information. Someone saying you can run caldari plexes in t1 frig easy does not mean ALL the plexes only the minors. Gallente Minor- T1 frig afk YES Gallente Med- T1 frig afk YES Gallente Major- T1 frig afk YES Caldari Minor- T1 frig Afk Repper cap stable YES Caldari Med- T1 frig Afk Reppers and Cap stable fitted for plexing only YES Caldari Major- T1 Frig IN YOUR DREAMS. HELL NO Again i have given evidence above. This is why the Gallente are losing the battle for systems
You seem to forget to notice the Gal Incursus guys lately running every plex type. You guys already whined and got ECM nerfed while we still have to deal with being perma damped much of the time, now you want them easier?
Hey I have an idea.. fly the proper ship to do the plexes and kill the NPC's..
As far as "numbers" in each Militia, you know just as well as anyone that that is a bunch of BS. There has always been crap tons of guys in Caldari Militia that have nothing to do with fighting and only join Militia NPC corp to farm high sec missions or FW missions because of no taxes.
You are really going to whine about Gal having lower numbers when yesterday I was in Nenn there was over 40 of you docked, I went to Enal and there was a gang of 15 or so and another 5 to 10 guys spread between system like Akadgi, Hikk.. That's not even counting any guys in Hey, Nis, Villi or Rak.
Active pilots are what count and now that Caldari is finally starting to get "close" to having same active numbers you already start whining that you can't compete because i't's no longer easy to just out blob us? |
Dopified
Quantum Cats Syndicate
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:32:00 -
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Mutnin wrote: You seem to forget to notice the Gal Incursus guys lately running every plex type. You guys already whined and got ECM nerfed while we still have to deal with being perma damped much of the time, now you want them easier?
Hey I have an idea.. fly the proper ship to do the plexes and kill the NPC's..
As far as "numbers" in each Militia, you know just as well as anyone that that is a bunch of BS. There has always been crap tons of guys in Caldari Militia that have nothing to do with fighting and only join Militia NPC corp to farm high sec missions or FW missions because of no taxes.
You are really going to whine about Gal having lower numbers when yesterday I was in Nenn there was over 40 of you docked, I went to Enal and there was a gang of 15 or so and another 5 to 10 guys spread between system like Akadgi, Hikk.. That's not even counting any guys in Hey, Nis, Villi or Rak.
Active pilots are what count and now that Caldari is finally starting to get "close" to having same active numbers you already start whining that you can't compete because i't's no longer easy to just out blob us?
Funny we ask for the Damage on the rats to be even, not give us an advantage and yet we are accused of crying so it makes things easier for us? Oh wait we are wanting it to be even. Again another caldari who does not want to give up his advantage |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
453
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:34:00 -
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Dopified wrote:chatgris wrote:Dopified wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:I do not really know what you guys are planning, but real problem is not the rats in plexes.
there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes. I am finding it funny how caldari are the only ones who are resisting this topic and dont want it changed. They're still going to have by far the most useful rats (well, tied with Minmatar I guess, never ran against minnie rats) With the proposed changes a caldari guy can burn 30 off the rats in a caracal or drake, take no damage have no ewar and shoot with impunity. A gallente guy will still have to deal with the incoming damage. But the proposed changes are most definitely an improvement. Let me ask you this Chat for a temporary fix. If all rats missile spammed like caldari rats do and you took the ewar away would this not be a good temporary fix until a long term solution could be found? EW NPC's removed or not who cares we are just talking about the incoming damage. And yes i know and will say to CCP you would get even more grief for making the rats the same for all by being blamed Gallente bias. I would understand if you would not want to open that can of worms.
I think the loss of target painters will help us against the minmatar rats as well.
But yeah for a "quick fix" ccp should just make everyone face the same exact rats - just pick one race.
The long term fix should be to do away with rats entirely and let the players actually fight in the plexes. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
226
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:40:00 -
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O how I heart FW. To think CCP was thinking about adding more drama to it. If only they new then what they can see now.
Only thing that really annoys me, is LP rewards for Kills. They only go to the people in the fleet of the final blow pilot. Outside off that, everything else is pretty much fine. Well NPC balance of course but that drums been banged so much it becomes pointless.
However if you could tweek the missions some, as in force them into ENEMY systems only please. Right now you can do an entire mission run for the Minmatar and never set foot in Amarr space. This is broken. |
Dopified
Quantum Cats Syndicate
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:53:00 -
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Cearain wrote:I think the loss of target painters will help us against the minmatar rats as well.
But yeah for a "quick fix" ccp should just make everyone face the same exact rats - just pick one race.
The long term fix should be to do away with rats entirely and let the players actually fight in the plexes.
I agree with it but maybe think that we stay with each races damage type seperately. For some like gallente they can not tank Explosive very well and thinking of that for the other militia's as well but missile spamming for all will deal the damage. But that would be the only change maybe not the Same rats if you meant one specific damage type. If that is not what you meant then i aggree with one type of rat that has the damage dealt the same for that militia it is dealing too. But i would say we need some kind of resistence in the plexes for when some are not on. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
226
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:12:00 -
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Dopified wrote:Cearain wrote:I think the loss of target painters will help us against the minmatar rats as well.
But yeah for a "quick fix" ccp should just make everyone face the same exact rats - just pick one race.
The long term fix should be to do away with rats entirely and let the players actually fight in the plexes. I agree with it but maybe think that we stay with each races damage type seperately. For some like gallente they can not tank Explosive very well and thinking of that for the other militia's as well but missile spamming for all will deal the damage. But that would be the only change maybe not the Same rats if you meant one specific damage type. If that is not what you meant then i aggree with one type of rat that has the damage dealt the same for that militia it is dealing too. But i would say we need some kind of resistence in the plexes for when some are not on.
Do you realize that you can solo every faction lvl 4's in a bomber? It's not just Minmatar & Caldari that can run solo bombers in missions.. Gal & Amarr can do the same it's just a bit harder and requires ships set up to do the job. Same with plexes..
Either way, plex NCP's changes do little to stop any "easy" mode plexing/mission farming because it then just requires a noob alt in MWD T1 frig to take aggro... If you want to fix plexing to stop noob alts from farming them, then just require all NPC's must be killed in order to complete the plex & then we can have more PVE in FW.
Even then 1 noob Thrasher can run any minor with a 3 day old skilled alt & kill all the NPC's. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
100
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:18:00 -
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Dopified wrote:chatgris wrote:Dopified wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:I do not really know what you guys are planning, but real problem is not the rats in plexes.
there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes. I am finding it funny how caldari are the only ones who are resisting this topic and dont want it changed. They're still going to have by far the most useful rats (well, tied with Minmatar I guess, never ran against minnie rats) With the proposed changes a caldari guy can burn 30 off the rats in a caracal or drake, take no damage have no ewar and shoot with impunity. A gallente guy will still have to deal with the incoming damage. But the proposed changes are most definitely an improvement. Let me ask you this Chat for a temporary fix. If all rats missile spammed like caldari rats do and you took the ewar away would this not be a good temporary fix until a long term solution could be found? EW NPC's removed or not who cares we are just talking about the incoming damage. And yes i know and will say to CCP you would get even more grief for making the rats the same for all by being blamed Gallente bias. I would understand if you would not want to open that can of worms.
It would be a good temporary fix. It would damp down the afk plexing alts some and give everyone an even playing field.
I would prefer that all rats became the short range turret rats instead so that everyone could pvp in plexes without NPC interference just by burning off the button (rats should stay near the button), but that doesn't solve the afk frigate issue until they introduce the "kill all rats to close plex" fix. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
453
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:20:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Dopified wrote:Cearain wrote:I think the loss of target painters will help us against the minmatar rats as well.
But yeah for a "quick fix" ccp should just make everyone face the same exact rats - just pick one race.
The long term fix should be to do away with rats entirely and let the players actually fight in the plexes. I agree with it but maybe think that we stay with each races damage type seperately. For some like gallente they can not tank Explosive very well and thinking of that for the other militia's as well but missile spamming for all will deal the damage. But that would be the only change maybe not the Same rats if you meant one specific damage type. If that is not what you meant then i aggree with one type of rat that has the damage dealt the same for that militia it is dealing too. But i would say we need some kind of resistence in the plexes for when some are not on. Do you realize that you can solo every faction lvl 4's in a bomber? It's not just Minmatar & Caldari that can run solo bombers in missions.. Gal & Amarr can do the same it's just a bit harder and requires ships set up to do the job. Same with plexes.. Either way, plex NCP's changes do little to stop any "easy" mode plexing/mission farming because it then just requires a noob alt in MWD T1 frig to take aggro... If you want to fix plexing to stop noob alts from farming them, then just require all NPC's must be killed in order to complete the plex & then we can have more PVE in FW. Even then 1 noob Thrasher can run any minor with a 3 day old skilled alt & kill all the NPC's.
What set up do you use to run all the amarr level 4 missions solo in a stealth bomber? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
100
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:26:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Do you realize that you can solo every faction lvl 4's in a bomber? It's not just Minmatar & Caldari that can run solo bombers in missions.. Gal & Amarr can do the same it's just a bit harder and requires ships set up to do the job. Same with plexes..
I would love to see what fit you think it is possible to solo a level 4 gallente fw mission (against caldari rats, and NOT the one where you have to pick up the item that can be done in a ceptor). Because those rats hit out to 100+, and the jamming is pretty intense too - it works over the tank of an ishtar/gila real good. |
Dopified
Quantum Cats Syndicate
22
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:14:00 -
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Again the lack of posting actual fits or evidence backing up the claim of certain parties just goes to prove how missleading and untruthful some people can be. You cannot solo Ammar missions or Gallente missions in a Stealth bomber. And in such a way ccp has rewarded our missions with more lp to kind of make up for that.
Secondly you have fully admitted there is an advantage on your side but argue for us to work harder at this. It makes a difference if you can run all 3 plex sizes in one ship and not just minors in a low sp thrasher pilot. But it is still argued by you that this is fair. Again evidence for our side that there is an imbalance and one side is disadvantaged greatly. I would say if they allowed the gallente militia to speed tank like you all do i would have 3 alts running plexes at the same time afk who cares if they get popped numbers prove i can just put them back out cheap. And same can be said if i want to go pvp i can just plex easy by speed tanking and not wasting ammo till a find a fight. You say we can use two alts well NO ONE IS DOING IT because no one thinks in thier right mind paying for two accounts is worth plexing one plex at a time.
Please get real with your arguements and provide at least some kind of evidence to back your claim on THIS TOPIC not another. You want another topic then post it in a new thread I will answer you there. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
226
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:42:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Mutnin wrote:Do you realize that you can solo every faction lvl 4's in a bomber? It's not just Minmatar & Caldari that can run solo bombers in missions.. Gal & Amarr can do the same it's just a bit harder and requires ships set up to do the job. Same with plexes..
I would love to see what fit you think it is possible to solo a level 4 gallente fw mission (against caldari rats, and NOT the one where you have to pick up the item that can be done in a ceptor). Because those rats hit out to 100+, and the jamming is pretty intense too - it works over the tank of an ishtar/gila real good.
It's not think, it's can do.. I'm not here to do your work for yea, but I'm telling you they can be done solo in a bomber.
Also I'm totally watching Pon Chito a (2012.05.27) Gal alt of Russians in Kehjari speed tanking a Caldari major in a Dram.. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
255
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:44:00 -
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Cearain wrote: I think the loss of target painters will help us against the minmatar rats as well.
No target painters/webs = "afk plexing incursus" for missile spam plexes.
The question everybody is arguing is whether you should be able to solo a L3 (or higher) plex with a 50k isk T1 frigate or a 5 million isk T1 frigate. To me there is little difference between the two. It's just as ridiculous that a L3 plex can be solo'd by an incursus as it can be solo'd by a T1 fit condor. The situation may be come even more absurd when CCP Ytter applies the 10%/level rep bonus to the Exeqeror (maybe a Vexor or Thorax, who knows, or perhaps one of the assault frigates) in 6 months.
IMO you should be able to solo a given plex (in a reasonable amount of time) with the largest sized (or best in class) ship allowed in the plex - nothing less. Since we can all build a great tanker out of a small, inexpensive ship, the only metric I see that would work well under current mechanics is forcing everybody to kill all NPCs before closing the plex.
As a point of reference, you can solo a L3 Caldari plex with an Ishtar by killing all the NPCs in about the same amount of time it takes to run the plex down. I don't believe an ishkur (L2 ship) can kill all the NPCs in that same amount of time. That's where we want to be, IMO. |
Heredom
Quantum Cats Syndicate
16
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:09:00 -
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Very good thread with excellent feedback and honestly good answers from CCP.
Congratz, Dopi.
TY, CCP.
TY, adult players with decent coments and feedback .
And to the whining drama queens with PMS-like attitude ("you" must be one if this single sentence is now disturbing your temper), go play "Hello Kitty Online" or watch "Magic Poneys", IF your mommy lets you do it. 'Cause she might ask you first to say sorry to the CCP Devs that professionally answered in this forum thread.
/end childish posts, they're beyond pathetic. Not even considered bad trolls. Done, signature edited with perfection!... |
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Grimfang Wyrmspawn
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
13
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:05:00 -
[111] - Quote
I don't see an issue with giving missile spam to all races plex NPCs once the EW is removed. Every race has them, at least at frigate level, and it would go someway to rectifying the imbalance.
There are one or two L4 Amarrian FW missions at most that you can do solo in a SB. I've had a good chuckle a few times when ex-Minnie pilots have come over and discovered this the hard way.... |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Villore Accords
171
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:21:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:chatgris wrote:Mutnin wrote:Do you realize that you can solo every faction lvl 4's in a bomber? It's not just Minmatar & Caldari that can run solo bombers in missions.. Gal & Amarr can do the same it's just a bit harder and requires ships set up to do the job. Same with plexes..
I would love to see what fit you think it is possible to solo a level 4 gallente fw mission (against caldari rats, and NOT the one where you have to pick up the item that can be done in a ceptor). Because those rats hit out to 100+, and the jamming is pretty intense too - it works over the tank of an ishtar/gila real good. It's not think, it's can do.. I'm not here to do your work for yea, but I'm telling you they can be done solo in a bomber. Also I'm totally watching Pon Chito a (2012.05.27) Gal alt of Russians in Kehjari speed tanking a Caldari major in a Dram..
There might be only 1 gallente fw mission that can be solod in a stealth bomber and now i think about it i cant remember which it is... The bomber i use for the speed tank starts to get overwhelmed if rats spawn within 70km of its 160km orbit and that doesnt even have any torp launchers to allow the fitting of the tank. I could go ab but you need the mwd to get out of the high damage zone of the first spawn before it comes in for some missions... Claiming that SB's can solo gall fw missions really does destroy any credibility you might have thought you had. |
Juan Rayo
Quantum Cats Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:50:00 -
[113] - Quote
Super Chair wrote:I'd also like to add in that there should be LP for defensive plexing. Yes there will be alts doing that however it's probably the most anti-fun thing to do right now when you have to go to a backwater system, watch the plexing alts warp off and leave system then have to sit there orbiting the button in the middle of nowhere with no monetary incentive or PvP to be had.
Should it be as much as offensive plexing? Hell no. It should be 1/4 (or less) of what you get of doing a similar sized offensive plex. Why? Because otherwise attacking a system to destroy its infrastructure would be pointless because the defenders could just repour the LP back in for defending.
Fully agreed. |
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
9
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Posted - 2012.06.05 05:55:00 -
[114] - Quote
Dopified wrote:You say we can use two alts well NO ONE IS DOING IT because no one thinks in thier right mind paying for two accounts is worth plexing one plex at a time.
Ahem...Black Onyx Society on your side. One guy, 7 stabbed atron accounts. Apparently only because he hates Damar's guts and wants to waste his time (somehow I dont think he grasp the irony of the situation there...), not to mention Val has several accounts.
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Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
153
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Posted - 2012.06.05 06:55:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Dopified wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:I do not really know what you guys are planning, but real problem is not the rats in plexes.
there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes. I am finding it funny how caldari are the only ones who are resisting this topic and dont want it changed. They're still going to have by far the most useful rats (well, tied with Minmatar I guess, never ran against minnie rats) With the proposed changes a caldari guy can burn 30 off the rats in a caracal or drake, take no damage have no ewar and shoot with impunity. A gallente guy will still have to deal with the incoming damage. But the proposed changes are most definitely an improvement.
This true, so i do not see any point to change npc because it does not really solve anything.
As i said thing is not so simple, you have to make some other decision 1st and then think how npc is. |
Whisperen
That's Not A Knife Flatline.
1
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:09:00 -
[116] - Quote
Drop the timers and give the npc's sansha AI with some more long range/fast tackle problem solved wheres my cookie. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
255
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:15:00 -
[117] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote: There might be only 1 gallente fw mission that can be solod in a stealth bomber and now i think about it i cant remember which it is... .
Uproot. The rats don't agress unless you get too close to them. Orbit Main reactor at 72km when you get into plex and never see NPC aggression.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
255
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:31:00 -
[118] - Quote
Bad Messenger wrote: there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes.
Is there any way you could describe or list what these problems are? And since you probably have the best insight into FW mechanics of any player who has participated, what would you propose as solutions? |
Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
153
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Posted - 2012.06.05 10:13:00 -
[119] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: there is several bigger problems that needs to be solved before anyone can decide what kind of rats are in plexes.
Is there any way you could describe or list what these problems are? And since you probably have the best insight into FW mechanics of any player who has participated, what would you propose as solutions?
hard to say anything, ccp keeps deleting my posts :) |
Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
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Eve isn't ment to be fair http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
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