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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.10 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Miklas Laces
Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Didn't any one else read the hot fix patch-notes? It's now 1.3 seconds, matching the visual timer. To find it look under the patch notes at the bottom it says "Hot fix...deployed October 6, 2009" and is the first item.
it's still totally crap and also that's not the point, I asked if CSM raised this issue with CCP or not
go back the wormhole space
As has been mentioned in countless other threads... we were very vocal about it at the CSM summit (I can't speak about fanfest, welp). However, from what was explained to us the changes were for good reason and not to shaft anyone in particular. As one of the old school scanner pros I especially hate the change and still argued against it.
But as people of your ilk so often decree 'the CSM has no power' (unless there's something you as an individual want changing then it absolutely MUST have power over CCP policy and game design). Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator |
Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.10.13 04:12:00 -
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Quote: CSM - does it serve an actual purpose?
IT sure does. Before people would post their ideas and it was CCP denying them. Now it's the CSM denying them.
1. Less work for ccp; iow they dont have to read posts. 2. CCP isnt the bad guy. 3. CSM takes all the blame.
Quote: There's a thread going on in the Assembly Hall regarding the competence of GMs and the seeming failures of the petition system. It's over 350 posts long yet CCP feel able to not bother with any form of official response.
GM issue is a funny one. They get spammed with so much crap... they have to copypaste. But that copypaste almost never answers anything. Infact hardened petition metagamers have devised ways to break the copypaste.
Furthermore; gms have been tricked into so many things so many times they are on epic short leash.
add on top of that leash... they have been given a set of rules so vague that if you take the smallest thing out of context or have a legit char screwing up... the innocent person gets penalized.
Just think of this. Someone isk spams(or says something racist or something) rookie help(why ur in there i dont know) you copy paste and hit enter ingame after ud opened the petition window. BUT it just went to local. You notice you didnt paste into window. You never even notice local because its uber tiny. Someone else petitions you for isk spamming. You then get muted and/or banned. Sorry but the rules are rules. You stay banned and/or warned.
^^^ happened to me. Though not banned obviously.
Quote: There are multiple threads going on the the issues, workarounds and localization forum regarding people bringing hack attempts on their accounts to CCP. They subsequently get locked out of their accounts for weeks on end and are left high and dry by CCP in the meantime with not a single scrap of feedback on their issue while still being charged for the "privilege".
The other good one I've seen. Person x petitions wartarget y. Saying "It's very unusual for my war target to be on @ this time. I just killed a bunch of stuff... I know him IRL though we havent talked in years and he wouldnt do that. Y just happens to be using vpn/proxy iow unusual ip address. Banned. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2009.10.13 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Juicy Gossip Short answer: No
If it ever served a purpose it no longer does. It's just a popularity contest now.
This.
Bringing "democracy" into EVE as if we needed it is both pretentious and idiotic. A meta-gaming democratic system (functional or not (this one isn't)) is the opposite of the sandbox philosophy of EVE and... well, Ms. Gossip summed it up pretty well really.
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.10.18 07:54:00 -
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The CSM is nothing more than a convenient platform in which CCP generates some good press and makes you feel they listen.
Although they have implemented a number of small fixes based on the CSM these would probably have seen the light of day without the CSM, after all the devs do read the ideas and some of the ones in Dominion etc are on the boards in one form or another and not part of the CSM.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.19 18:38:00 -
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CSM does work, not very well, it is not perfect, but it does work. Now, if more people would be bothered to vote for the correct candidates, that would greatly improve the situation.
Why do i think it works? Because the issue i proposed for underpowered destroyers made it through. CSM does not have to reply to the post, they might well just have a look at it, discuss it, then discuss it with CCP, and see what CCP thinks. Now, if CSM would make us aware of such doings, that would greatly improve players opinion of it, and there reputation, but that's a different ussue. IF you look at the wiki, there is a list of all issues, votes, denied proposals, so on. Fix Destroyers |
Daugar Draaken
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Posted - 2009.10.31 16:57:00 -
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It is extremely easy to have a year of CSM members elected, largely by chance, that has no effect whatsoever. The people, argue back and forth, CCP listens, nods politely and does what it wants. And that is the way it ought to be.
However, if you have one iota of common sense, you have an afternoons talk with some developers and artists and coders at CCP, without being a hassle, and get a feel for what compells these people and what is a consideration in the game. And then you present your points in that light. And you woo them. You seduce them. And you bring them into your way of thinking.
I can't say for certain I would be able to pull that off. But I'll give it a decent try.
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