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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2012.06.03 21:53:00 -
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So I'm sure this has been brought up at some point, but I didn't see anything so I thought I would. It seems to me it would be cool if there was a way to use a plex to activate training on an alt slot of your account. For example, I'd really love an alt freighter pilot. I don't need another complete account for this. I could purchase one off of the market. I could pause my main toon's training for a month, which I'd hate doing, and train an alt. but I'd be happy to dump a plex on my account to allow me to activate training on an alt slot without having to pause my main.
It seems like it would be a win win. It would be the same essential cost as having a second account, so ccp still gets their money. I can't see any major downside, other than it would not show an increase in actual accounts for ccp to brag about. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.06.03 21:54:00 -
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Character Bazaar Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.06.03 21:54:00 -
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Actually this is sounds like a good idea, as long as the SP is gained in the same normal way (no buying SP instantly with plex)
Im sure everyones looked at their alt slots and thought "oh i really could do with spending a month more on my hauler alt and get him in a t2 hauler" etc but cant bring themselves to stop the main training.
Excellent idea! http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:16:00 -
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The mechanic to transfer characters from one account to another exists and is finished. This plan would require a reprogramming change to the game.
When there is a function that already exists there isn't much point in investing more programming time to redo it. Then again, we got the Unified Inventory and that went over so well I'm sure they are ready to adopt your idea any minute. Check out the new Orca model, brought to you by the Unified Inventory System
http://i.imgur.com/InJgK.jpg-á
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:25:00 -
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Thanks smart guy. But buying off the market is something I addressed in my post |
Bossy Lady
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:39:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:So I'm sure this has been brought up at some point...
so you thought it would be a great and popular move to bring it up again?
Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:43:00 -
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Bossy Lady wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:So I'm sure this has been brought up at some point... so you thought it would be a great and popular move to bring it up again?
...But I couldn't find anything...
Quoting out of context is fun eh? |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:45:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Thanks smart guy. But buying off the market is something I addressed in my post
That's the option you have, use it or not, your choice. And learn to use search smart guy. It has been brought up before which you'd have found if you'd actually bothered. You'll see in each of the threads that have brought up this idea before that there are clearly spelled out arguments against it.
In other words, I doubt you'll get a great deal of support. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
640
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:46:00 -
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Bossy Lady wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:So I'm sure this has been brought up at some point... so you thought it would be a great and popular move to bring it up again? Most people don't have an original thought inside their heads, but it's okay; if we only allowed original posts, then these forums would have less activity than the actual game server. |
Bossy Lady
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:47:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Bossy Lady wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:So I'm sure this has been brought up at some point... so you thought it would be a great and popular move to bring it up again? ...But I couldn't find anything... Quoting out of context is fun eh?
"Your" idea crops up at approximately 4-8 week intervals in the various forums (mostly in the Skills Forum, where it belongs)
Honestly, payin a PLEX for 30 days of skilling one of the alt slots isn't that bad an idea, but inevitably, and I do mean the damb day it was introduced, people would be bawwing like crazy for the ability to double skill their mains. Let's just not go down that road.
Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M. |
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Shian Yang
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:48:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:So I'm sure this has been brought up at some point, but I didn't see anything so I thought I would.
Greetings capsuleer,
Your ability to search is certainly sub-par.
Features and Ideas have a home where this has been discussed to such a point that many capsuleers vomited into their pod goo. See here, here, here and here.
If you are more patient than I am you can sift through the other dross and find more results. Donations of ISK for me doing your searching for you will definitely be appreciated.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:51:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Bossy Lady wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:So I'm sure this has been brought up at some point... so you thought it would be a great and popular move to bring it up again? ...But I couldn't find anything... Quoting out of context is fun eh?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96186
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117077&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60186
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=105822
It's been done before. The short version is that if you want to acquire SP faster, buy a second account and train up new characters or buy old characters and continue training them. The second account only costs 1 PLEX a month and has the advantage of being accessible concurrently with your main account.
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
755
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:51:00 -
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Came expecting stupid idea, found one thats not all that bad.
Never gonna happen tho. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
755
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:53:00 -
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And even better, if you buddy invite yourself, chose 1 plex as the reward, and activate the new account with a plex, you get a new one you can sell to get an account free for 51 days.
You can do this 10 times a month, for free, by bouncing plex that way, tho I am sure if it got overly abused we would lose that loophole. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
131
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:54:00 -
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I must respectfully disagree with you OP. If anything, I wish CCP would remove alts entirely. They detract from the game in my opinion. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1463
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:59:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:GǪ I'd be happy to dump a plex on my account to allow me to activate training on an alt slot without having to pause my main.
It seems like it would be a win win. It would be the same essential cost as having a second account, so ccp still gets their money. I can't see any major downside, other than it would not show an increase in actual accounts for ccp to brag about.
The essential difference between dumping 1 PLEX on your existing account to train for a month versus dumping 1 PLEX into a second account to train for a month is that you are evading the 2 PLEX to transfer a character cost. That cost acts as a barrier to prevent people training one month here and one month there as they can afford to, since a single month of training would effectively cost 3 PLEX.
Being able to train multiple characters at once is evading the problem of the most scarce resource in the game, which is time. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
755
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:11:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:I must respectfully disagree with you OP. If anything, I wish CCP would remove alts entirely. They detract from the game in my opinion. Care to suggest a way to restrict alts that doesn't prevent my wife and roommate from playing? Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1155
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:41:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:loophole. IIRC CCP quite strongly dislike you doing that, you might want yo edit your post to remove that suggestion before a mod sees it
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1155
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:44:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Maxpie wrote:I must respectfully disagree with you OP. If anything, I wish CCP would remove alts entirely. They detract from the game in my opinion. Care to suggest a way to restrict alts that doesn't prevent my wife and roommate from playing? Well you could limit the number of instances you could run on one machine.
Sure, you could remove that limitation pretty easily, use a virtual machine as a workaround or just use a second computer but it would stop the majority of players using alts.
The real questions is why the hell would CCP want to do that?!
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
538
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:53:00 -
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Honestly I would just love to get rid of all the multiple accounts nonsense. Have a pool of characters you own and allow people to add more characters to that pool by paying more subscriptions.
For example, I am paying three subscriptions right now. I would have a pool of 9 characters available, three of which can train skills and three of which can be logged in simultaneously. But I would get to pick any three out of the nine.
For some, a character is everything, a virtual representation of themselves. For some, a character is just a tool no more important than a ship or a module. And I feel that there could be less arbitrary restrictions on use of these tools. |
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
200
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:37:00 -
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I don't know; if you are going to pay the equivalent two accounts just to train your second character why not get the benefit of a second account? [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
760
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:46:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:loophole. IIRC CCP quite strongly dislike you doing that, you might want yo edit your post to remove that suggestion before a mod sees it Its not exactly disallowed, but thats why I made a point to mention that abuse would cause Bad Thing To Happen. I've always understand that as long as they are not used a throwaways, its not an issue. They do, after all, want more accounts. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2012.06.04 11:56:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Maxpie wrote:I must respectfully disagree with you OP. If anything, I wish CCP would remove alts entirely. They detract from the game in my opinion. Care to suggest a way to restrict alts that doesn't prevent my wife and roommate from playing?
Simple. One character per account. Sure, I'd love to remove multiple accounts as well, but that does not seem viable, so I'm not suggesting it. Just removing alts would be an improvement though. It would move the game a little closer to the 'risk vs reward' and 'being held accountable for your actions'. As is, there are way too many people hiding behind disposable alts. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:27:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Maxpie wrote:I must respectfully disagree with you OP. If anything, I wish CCP would remove alts entirely. They detract from the game in my opinion. Care to suggest a way to restrict alts that doesn't prevent my wife and roommate from playing? Simple. One character per account. Sure, I'd love to remove multiple accounts as well, but that does not seem viable, so I'm not suggesting it. Just removing alts would be an improvement though. It would move the game a little closer to the 'risk vs reward' and 'being held accountable for your actions'. As is, there are way too many people hiding behind disposable alts. You have more than one character per account?
That makes them pretty useless. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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