Pages: 1 2 3 [4] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
271
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:10:00 -
[91] - Quote
You're right I never will because people who struggle defending a position are linking random various posts in an attempt to convey some format that the rules follow. When by the postings linked show that precisely no format exists. Its not unwillingness. its incompetent instruction. Essentially the rules are made up on the fly and used to silence critique or opinion whoever is moderating decides unworthwhile. |
Vanria Vexed
Posiden Industrial
3
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:11:00 -
[92] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:No I don't. There seems to be no apparent ruleset that determines whether something falls under general discussion. Which takes us back to open air admission of bias and censorship.
For everything that cannot be specifically defined and laid out in the rules falls under CCP's discretion. If a mod feels that certain topics fit elsewhere they will move it. Get over it, move on and quit feeling like you are being tormented. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
271
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:14:00 -
[93] - Quote
Or said another way, open air bias and prejudice. |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
66
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:15:00 -
[94] - Quote
Kimmi Chan wrote:If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.
Intelligence shouldn't be free. by Mors Sanctitatis |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
271
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:17:00 -
[95] - Quote
Kimmi Chan wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer. I did read the rules, and I didnt find anything either of my posts violated sans discussing moderating bias. And I never drew first blood in the threads and no action or moderation was taken against those who did. So don't slap me with the whip and then cry out in pain.
|
Vanria Vexed
Posiden Industrial
4
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:20:00 -
[96] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Or said another way, open air bias and prejudice.
Every company is "bias" to their own success, and will defend themselves how they feel to continue onward to their idea of success. You alone on this failure of a crusade, and playing a self defined martyr, will not change that fact. ONCE AGAIN, learn that mods have freedom to that which you cannot and move on. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
271
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:23:00 -
[97] - Quote
If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action? |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2327
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:27:00 -
[98] - Quote
Shian Yang wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:I'm not getting it. What exactly is able to be posted in this forum? It appears i've struck a nerve and now anything I post is removed. Yet slurs, snide remarks and general harassment isn't. Enlighten me, what qualifies as a general discussion of EVE? Greetings capsuleer, Your original discussion on the influence of Local was moved to Features and Ideas. You then spammed the forum by repeating the topic, despite having them locked. Admittedly, capsuleer Crimson, Lord Zim and Cutter was instrumental in getting one of those threads locked, but as capsuleer Crimson has said: DMC wrote:I personally detest seeing that and have been guilty of doing that myself in the past. But I was shown the error of my ways and have vowed to post replies as per Forum Rules. Now when I see it getting out of hand, I'll post a reminder to those involved and if continued, will just issue 'Report Cards'. He is a stickler for the forum rules and you should listen to him. What the owners of this board says is what the rules are. And these rules have determined that your discussion should go to Features and Ideas and that repeated occurences of that topic will be locked. I am correct in this, am I not capsuleer Crimson? Regards, Shian Yang Capsuleer Yang,
Yes, you're correct in saying I made that statement and am now, as you put it, a 'stickler' for the forum rules.
I also agree that myself, Lord Zim and Cutter Isaacson, along with other players, contributed to the lock which was not my intention. However, the way you present my statement and the fact that you omitted the first part of it consequently bolsters your post and implies that my statement was directed towards Caliph Muhammed, which it most certainly was not.
When viewed in it's entirety, my statement definitely paints a different picture :
Quote:Nonetheless, everything I posted is true. The OP was perfectly fine and had some legitimate replies. However, he was personally attacked by others who were trying to incite a flame war and derail this thread by posting sarcastic, disrespectful, demeaning, berating and offensive replies directed towards the OP.
I personally detest seeing that and have been guilty of doing that myself in the past. But I was shown the error of my ways and have vowed to post replies as per Forum Rules. Now when I see it getting out of hand, I'll post a reminder to those involved and if continued, will just issue 'Report Cards'. Obviously by then the only players active in the thread was myself, Lord Zim and Cutter Isaacson. Due to it continuing, I did what I said I would do which resulted in various replies being removed (expected) and ultimately the thread being locked (unexpected).
Regards,
DMC
Lord Zim wrote: Actually, the timeline is, he started a thread about removing local in GD, it went on and on and on for a long time, was moved to F&I, he then opened a thread in GD asking why the thread was moved, it was locked for discussing moderation, he started another thread where the OP was just a bunch of "fill in the blanks" sentences, that got locked and he started a new thread within 10 minutes with the exact same first post, only a different subject, which promptly got locked for being a duplicate of a locked thread.
And now we're here.
If recounting facts, let's present all the facts. While I don't know the actual specifics about the first 2 posted threads, those 2 threads are irrelevant pertaining to what happened in the 3rd thread.
The "Fill in the blanks" thread was fine for General Discussion, another 'fun type' thread like the 'Likes' or 'Avatar' threads, presented as a guessing game regardless of the hidden content. It even had some legitimate replies. Unfortunately it was immediately attacked by those with a cross to bare, resulting in events which were explained above. Now if some of the replies had exercised some restraint as per forum rules, possibly even ignored the thread instead of trying to lol flame it, that thread probably would have died out after a while. It definitely wouldn't have gained my attention. I will agree though that quickly posting another thread after that was indeed a bad move.
Now that brings us up to speed.
To the OP - Caliph Muhammed,
If you feel that you are being unjustly persecuted, file a complaint with Customer Service - Internal Affairs. That's what they are there for. Also there are various other ways to bring attention to your thread topic even if it is in F&I sub-forum, such as placing a link to it in your characters forum signature and your characters bio. You can also link it in local chat of various solar systems within Eve.
Best thing to do right now is not push the issue here and let it rest. Above all, just ignore these players who keep trying to antagonize you. DON'T FEED THEM. More than likely their intent is to get you raging. Just let it be.
As for me, well, no offense intended to anyone but I believe my reputation should be well known by now. If not, I welcome the opportunity to re-establish it whenever the need arises. Now with that all said, I really don't want to look over this thread cuz I'm done for today. However, tomorrow is another day.
DMC
|
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 03:53:00 -
[99] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action?
The mods can only censor the forums and the forums are limited to an already paying population.
I have reported every post you've made in this thread. |
Grandpa Bill
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 04:00:00 -
[100] - Quote
You know I see a lot of people saying things on this internet page thingie and just to what the topic is, is slightly random like my grandson Frank. One time we were out froggin and we come upon this one that just wouldnt stay still like it was on some kind of drug or something. There was this one boy down the road that liked to do drugs and we knew he did because he never mowed his yard. That yard was such a mess that when he would finally mow it, he would run somethin over that he didnt want to and that can be bad on your mower blade. Just remember that everytime you hit something big with the mower, check the blade to make sure its ok to continue running... |
|
Vanria Vexed
Posiden Industrial
4
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 04:05:00 -
[101] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
The mods can only censor the forums and the forums are limited to an already paying population.
Paying your subscription doesn't entitle you to berate/insult employees of CCP, it only entitles you to ability to agree with the EULA and play. You always have the option of not paying CCP and not playing the game if you are so truly offended by their ability to handle their customers. Feel free to fill out the survey they have for you as you cancel your account as to why you are doing so. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
16
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 05:18:00 -
[102] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Once again can we get one example of a topic that would uniformly fall under general discussion?
Or are we at the point of open air admission of bias?
yes one thing you dont do:
Reopening a locked thread by creating a new one is not allowed.
Recreating or reopening a thread that has been closed by a moderator is prohibited. Threads that have been closed by a moderator have been closed for the benefit of the community. Reopening a locked thread will result in its removal.
as we've heard you have done
Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful, provided that it is presented in a civil, factual manner. Tell us what you don't like and why and how you feel it could be improved. Posts that are not constructive, insulting or rude may be deleted, no matter how valid the ideas behind them may be.
Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not contribute to the sense of community we want for our forums.
Ranting is prohibited
A rant is a long-winded, redundant post, often filled with angry, non-constructive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game, but rants are disruptive and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise, clear manner and avoid going off on rambling tangents.
Its not long winded no, but its a rant
This thread really violates these
and Im too tired to find the one that says you cant discuss moderation but there is one and again, you did it in the OP
also; read here:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules
Maybe itll answer your question
|
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
271
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 05:31:00 -
[103] - Quote
I do not rant or ramble. I try and present an argument as concise as possible. To state otherwise is being intellectually dishonest. None of you are moderators, get a life.
Also you'll note that i'm not banned. You want to know why? Because I haven't violated any rules in spite of the lemmings parroting that fallacy. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
769
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 05:38:00 -
[104] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action? They are not treating the community as a worthless factor tho.
Just you. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
271
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 05:40:00 -
[105] - Quote
Tallian Saotome wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action? They are not treating the community as a worthless factor tho. Just you.
And you as well when you decide to discuss a topic they find too disruptive or difficult to answer. You just sit back, drink a soda and buy a monocle from the nex store lemming. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
769
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 05:43:00 -
[106] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action? They are not treating the community as a worthless factor tho. Just you. And you as well when you decide to discuss a topic they find too disruptive or difficult to answer. You just sit back, drink a soda and buy a monocle from the nex store lemming. Already been moderated more than once, sonny boy. Difference between me and you is I learned to stop doing what pissed them off. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
271
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 05:45:00 -
[107] - Quote
Im not disagreeable. If we can get a concise listing of acceptable topics that are equally applied to everyone as well as posting rules applied in the same fashion i'd gladly do so. You can't expect me to guess at it can you?
I have an inclination that if The Mittani decided local had to go he wouldn't have his posts removed.
But alas were getting off topic, a forum violation! The topic is what topics are acceptable for general discussion?
And for the daft i'm looking for clarity by people who enforce the rules not an inconsequential trolls attempt at stating factually that which has never been factually stated. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
771
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 05:50:00 -
[108] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Im not disagreeable. If we can get a concise listing of acceptable topics that are equally applied to everyone as well as posting rules applied in the same fashion i'd gladly do so. You can't expect me to guess at it can you?
I have an inclination that if The Mittani decided local had to go he wouldn't have his posts removed.
But alas were getting off topic, a forum violation! The topic is what topics are acceptable for general discussion. Your posts were not removed.
This thread was removed. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2331
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 06:03:00 -
[109] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed -
Don't bother with these people, all they want to do is harass and enrage you, trying to derail and lock this thread.
I already gave you some ideas on how to get your message out to the public. Need to gain support first, then after a while can bring it back with reinforcements to counter all the anti-posting being done. If you honestly can't refrain and need to reply to this thread, use the 'Report' option.
Anyway, I'm done for today and need a rest, I suggest you do the same.
DMC |
Lord Zim
763
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 06:21:00 -
[110] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:No the community does not. Just because you state it doesn't make it so. This line of argumentation sounds eerily familiar. I wonder where I might've seen this before. |
|
|
ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
105
|
Posted - 2012.06.04 06:25:00 -
[111] - Quote
Hi Caliph,
If you want to know why your thread was locked, please file a petition under the community tab and you will have your question answered.
This thread is actualy discussing moderation, which is prohibited as stated in the forum rules and therefor it is now closed. ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |