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Cyber Viper	Posted - 2009.09.06 11:37:00 - [1] Hi folks. So i've read the various guides around about wormholes and such but the one thing i still don't understand is how to tell if a wormhole is a static one or not. Any help here would be appreciated thanks.
aka Ishur Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.09.06 11:43:00 - [2]
King Rothgar Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.09.06 11:44:00 - [3] Wormholes are not static. -----------------------------------------------------
Nishachara Minmatar Special Operations Corp	Posted - 2009.09.06 11:49:00 - [4] Edited by: Nishachara on 06/09/2009 11:51:48 If the name of the wormhole is anything else than K162 than its static... You scan what wh-s you have in your wh system... So If u have O477 than you have static entrance to class3 every day... And when one O477 wh colapses another will spawn... Or for example B247 will be static entrance to k-space from your wormhole... K162 is an exit wh so it never cant be static... And btw...wh-s in K-space are never static (at least to my knowledge), so if you find R943 for example in some K-space system..there will not be another R943 in 24 hours when this despawns... Good luck in your exploration :D *edit: Just not to be misunderstood: Static whs are NOT static entryes to same wh sys every day...They are entrance to same type of wh sys but a different sys every time wh spawns...
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2009.09.06 11:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Cyber Viper how to tell if a wormhole is a static one or not. No single wormhole is "static". The concept of static wormholes is an abstract that applies to wormhole systems (star systems whose names start with J) - the way it works is that you sit in that system for a week and scan down all wormholes you find in that system. In most class 1 and 2 systems you'll find there is always a wormhole to somewhere in hisec - this means the wormhole system has a "static" wormhole to hisec: any time you collapse the current hisec exit, another one will open up. One wormhole system I've been visiting has a "static" wormhole to hisec which will open up anywhere in Empire space (and we've seen it open in "hisec" islands of Empire controlled space in the middle of lowsec regions). Hope this helps, even though it's not really an answer to your question. [Aussie players: join channel ANZAC]
Cyber Viper	Posted - 2009.09.06 11:51:00 - [6] Edited by: Cyber Viper on 06/09/2009 11:54:02 Thanks Aka. I had thought there was a way to tell straight away if i had a static link but i guess i'll just need to watch where the wormholes lead to when in them. Edit: Thank you Nishachara thats what i had thought initially but i've not spent long enough in a single hole to tell that. Appreciate the time for the answer it'll help alot thanks.
aka Ishur Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.09.06 11:58:00 - [7]
Minmatar Assassin Minmatar Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2009.09.06 13:50:00 - [8] My corp moved out from 'static' C4 WH with 'static' everyday's links to C3. Has great bonuses. If someone interested to settle here, pls convo.
Sangii	Posted - 2009.09.08 16:07:00 - [9] Originally by: Nishachara Edited by: Nishachara on 06/09/2009 11:51:48 If the name of the wormhole is anything else than K162 than its static... I know what you mean by static. Same class WH opening when ever one is collapsed. But is it proven/true that if the WH designation is not K162 then those will always be static? The reason I am asking is I jumped into setting up a POS in a C1 yesterday that has 2 non-k162 WHs in it. One is to hi-sec. The other is to a C2. I figured which ever one turned out to be static I should still have an easy entrance to hi sec. But if you are saying that they BOTH will turn out to be static I think I will be in heaven.
Ace Secunda Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.09.08 16:34:00 - [10] K162 just refers to the trailing end of a discovered wormhole, e.g. If you discover a WH that is a V972 the other side will be a K162. However if you find a WH that was found before you from the other side you will find a K162. 'If I can't blow it up It don't exsist'

Sangii	Posted - 2009.09.08 16:50:00 - [11] Yup I am familiar with that mechanic. What I was curious about was if all-non exit point/K162 WH's are static as one of the earlier posters mentioned.
Ace Secunda Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.09.08 18:05:00 - [12] Edited by: Ace Secunda on 08/09/2009 18:05:53 No, they are created when the original WH is found, so a K162 only spawns when the other side is originally found, you cannot find a K162 WH before its other side has been discovered. 'If I can't blow it up It don't exsist'
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.09.08 19:31:00 - [13] No wormholes that originate in k-space are static in this manner (as far as I know). Most wormholes that originate in w-space are, but this is not universally true. There are a few w-space to XXX wormholes that randomly spawn, I just don't know the designations. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2009.09.08 21:06:00 - [14] Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 08/09/2009 21:06:12 Static wormholes refer to outgoing (not K162) wormholes that are always the same class. When a static wormhole collapses, another wormhole of the same class appears somewhere else in the system. When a random non-static wormhole collapses, it may not be replaced. There is no way to tell which wormholes are static without staying in the system 2-3 days or more, and scanning regularly.
Macchia Velli	Posted - 2009.09.08 22:07:00 - [15] Edited by: Macchia Velli on 08/09/2009 22:10:14 Originally by: Sangii Originally by: Nishachara Edited by: Nishachara on 06/09/2009 11:51:48 If the name of the wormhole is anything else than K162 than its static... I know what you mean by static. Same class WH opening when ever one is collapsed. But is it proven/true that if the WH designation is not K162 then those will always be static? The reason I am asking is I jumped into setting up a POS in a C1 yesterday that has 2 non-k162 WHs in it. One is to hi-sec. The other is to a C2. I figured which ever one turned out to be static I should still have an easy entrance to hi sec. But if you are saying that they BOTH will turn out to be static I think I will be in heaven. It could be that the system you are setting up your POS in, are an WH hub. By that it could have several regular exit WH's in it. Which would be a good thing to have, one for doing ops in when your system is empty. And, the one leading to hi-sec to haul the looted stuff too. Edit: Come to think of it, you shouldn't be surprised if the C2 also have a number of "regular" exits in it. Leading to all sort off space.
Sangii	Posted - 2009.09.09 14:28:00 - [16] I was hoping for that but it looks like just the hi-sec exit is static. The C2 exit was only temporary. Which answers my question of non-K162 exits always being static. They aren't. Oh well I am not too concerned with not having a static site running exit. This is a learning run for me. I will mine out the 7 grav sites and 3 ladar and use that cash to fund a large POS in a better system.


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