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Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:04:00 -
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Khadann wrote:Have anyone noticced how the bombers are never cloaked in the eve trailers? I can not wait to see this winter the ships balanced: "Bombers can not cloak any longer. Resists and HP increased by 10%"
I fear a rapier far more than any stealth bomber. A single SB on a carebear ratting ship is kinda lulzy. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:04:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed.
Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1774
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:11:00 -
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Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed. Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps.
per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
200
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:18:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
AFK cloaking is not a problem for anyone. It is not out of control.. and anyone who is truly AFK is no treat to you or anyone you know.. or anyone you don't know. The cloaked can accompish nothing but collecting info. they have to decloak to do anything. AFK cloakers are not at the keyboard so they are not going to decloak.
Remove all cloaked vessels from local and never worry about the AFK again. You should never know they are there. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:22:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy.
Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy?
AFK?
Away from keyboard ?
How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means.
AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking.
Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic a that would have looked it least it's quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers. |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:52:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed. Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps. per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy. Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool.
Heh, this is one of the things I love about the internet. So, local provides a tiny bit of information (a name; no ship fitting, more exact location or other info) and that makes it perfect. Well, that's just perfect.
No, dude, local is a powerful tool and should be reduced in power for lowsec and nullsec (I still like my constellation chat idea) but it isn't perfect. Just finding a particular sense in a word's dictionary doesn't make that usage correct in any given context. Also, if your dictionary provides pronunciation advice in the form "pur-fikt" it should be recycled. The dictionary, that is. |
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
37
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:04:00 -
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Acwron wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE? It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking !
The counter to AFK cloaking is deciding which kind of balls you have. Quit Crying and Just Suck It Up |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1775
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:08:00 -
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Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed. Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps. per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy. Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool. Heh, this is one of the things I love about the internet. So, local provides a tiny bit of information (a name; no ship fitting, more exact location or other info) and that makes it perfect. Well, that's just perfect. No, dude, local is a powerful tool and should be reduced in power for lowsec and nullsec (I still like my constellation chat idea) but it isn't perfect. Just finding a particular sense in a word's dictionary doesn't make that usage correct in any given context. Also, if your dictionary provides pronunciation advice in the form "pur-fikt" it should be recycled. The dictionary, that is.
It provides that tidbit of information (also providing what relationship he has with you, a biography, corp history, access to kb information on him[i.e. likely fittings], etc.) perfectly. It is, as you say, a powerful tool (incredibly powerful when used properly) and it is perfectly reliable.
Try it. Pur-Fikt Pear-Fect are both valid and common pronunciations. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:14:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy? AFK? Away from keyboard ? How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means. AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking. Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers.
You're a goon, not gonna ask you to understand anything. But....Show this to a wiser guy : You never know if someone is afk or not, tell that to the whole alliance that is passing thru system,, industrials who supply POS's, carry stuff around. CLOAKERS CAN DISRUPT THE WHOLE THING AND YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO THEM COS GUESS WHAT ? THEY ARE CLOAKED ! AFK OR NOT ! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ? OFC NOT !
Now...I don't give a shite if I have cloaker(s) in system but for people in an alliance is a pain sometimes. Why don't I give a damn ? Figure it out for yourself. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
13
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:16:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:See you in a week. Sadly, I agree. I picked up Daiblo III sure that it would provide a month and change of entertainment. It didn't. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:18:00 -
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Boooop wrote:In High-Sec you can't tell who's actively trying to gank you in local either and there's hundreds of them. I know it's scary Null-Sec carebear but it's called risk vs. reward and you take a risk every time you undock. I don't understand how you could call being semi-afk, casually glancing at local and farming rats only to warp off as soon as a non-blue enters "playing EVE." I think EVE would be better off without you and you should be destroyed.
Is it me or you're in a NPC corp ? STFU ! |
lanyaie
418
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:23:00 -
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Acwron wrote:lanyaie wrote:I'm going to stalk the OP in my cloaky rapier and have him create an entire thread dedicated to me. I don't give a **** about your rapier. I even dare you to decloak or cyno in some friends. If you ever trained cyno to 5. That's not even what I was talking about. But some of you just like to be stupid. You like it so much as you become stupid. And again, you just don't know it.
location? Ill be on my way
PS: you cared enough to reply to t so you do give a **** (whatever 4 stars may mean) I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:26:00 -
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@ Ruby and Tippia:
Local only provides the name. You can check out all the other stuff from people and places for anyone at any time. Or even from this website. Let me guess, Ruby: your toon was created in January 2009. Magic isn't it! Your main...not so easy, but local won't tell me that either.
I'm not saying a name can't be useful, but that really is all local provides: a name in a certain system. It ain't "perfect intel". This semantic crap will be getting tedious for other forum users so let's drop this now.
An d-scan still needs 'iteration'. Improve/rejig d-scan and lots of these complaints can die CCP. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:39:00 -
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Cristl wrote:@ Ruby and Tippia:
Local only provides the name. You can check out all the other stuff from people and places for anyone at any time. Or even from this website. Let me guess, Ruby: your toon was created in January 2009. Magic isn't it! Your main...not so easy, but local won't tell me that either.
I'm not saying a name can't be useful, but that really is all local provides: a name in a certain system. It ain't "perfect intel". This semantic crap will be getting tedious for other forum users so let's drop this now.
An d-scan still needs 'iteration'. Improve/rejig d-scan and lots of these complaints can die CCP.
Iteration ? You got new inventory ! What you could do in seconds, you can do now in hours ! Who cares about broken stuff ? Let's break what works perfectly fine instead ! |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1776
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:55:00 -
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Cristl wrote:@ Ruby and Tippia:
Local only provides the name. You can check out all the other stuff from people and places for anyone at any time. Or even from this website. Let me guess, Ruby: your toon was created in January 2009. Magic isn't it! Your main...not so easy, but local won't tell me that either.
I'm not saying a name can't be useful, but that really is all local provides: a name in a certain system. It ain't "perfect intel". This semantic crap will be getting tedious for other forum users so let's drop this now.
An d-scan still needs 'iteration'. Improve/rejig d-scan and lots of these complaints can die CCP.
Local provides the name. The name is kind of important because it's what lets you learn about the person in your Local. Imagine Local that just told you your standings to someone. Much less powerful, huh? Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 19:27:00 -
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So you agree that local provides nothing but the name and system. Excellent.
Well imagine if local gave precise info on ship location, ship type and ship fitting. Wouldn't that be an improvement over current intel? And if so, then the current intel situation can't be perfect now can it?
Lovely. See, that wasn't so difficult after all was it? |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
34
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Posted - 2012.06.04 19:59:00 -
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gb2d3 Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07 or uninstall and DIAF |
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:08:00 -
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Hasn't AFK cloaking been around since pretty much covert ops cloaks? |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:09:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool.
Accurate != perfect. Note the example in the definition you referenced, it's a specific use. Local is a "perfect copy" of some character information, it is not a "perfect intel tool".
There is a lot of intel local does not provide, in the broader and more applicable use it is imperfect.
e.g. Is that person in local docked or in space? That's pretty fundamental to not be provided by a "perfect intelligence tool".
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
90
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:10:00 -
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posting in afk cloaking thread #14751
And still the same non-argument. You are not forbidden to undock just because you have a cloaked ship in your system.
There are places in eve that don't even have a local and they are not the ones complaining about afk cloakers in the system. The danger is even bigger but somehow they manage to mine, rat and do their thing without tears. Of course they always fly only ships they can afford to loose, if they are in bigger numbers they even camp the entrance to secure the operation that is going on. Still they can not be sure if someone is already in there sitting 5k from their mining barge, ready to send them back to empire the fast way.
So it is not a game issue. You probably think you have the right for a secure space where you can bring out your officer fitted ratting ship without the risk of loosing it. You don't even think about an alternative to avoid a big loss in case you get ganked.
Also it works both ways. If you rat in a drake while there is clearly a cloaked ship in the system will he attack you? How does he know it's not a trap? I mean it's clearly a trap!! drakes are always a trap!!!! And maybe sometimes it is, and sometimes you just rat.
tl;dr grow some balls, learn how this game works |
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Ezekeil Rage
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:16:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:
You can just say you don't get it. It's okay. We won't judge.
Yes we will. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
627
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:24:00 -
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There are exactly 0 covops cloaking ships in the game that can't be killed by a single PVP fit hurricane. If you can't get a single t1 battlecruiser to protect you in your own sov then you have absolutely no right to have sov in the first place. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:27:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote: As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers.
Those are bots
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:40:00 -
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Wait wait WAIT A DAMN SECOND.
Your telling me, that if someone AFK cloaks in a system, it shuts down your engines and cap and revokes all undocking rights? I lied :o
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
64
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:20:00 -
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Show us on the Doll where the bad man touched you. -á-á |\__/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |
Zelman Axe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:25:00 -
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its a relatively easy fix just make cloak ships burn liquid ozone to cloak or run a 15min cycle and make cloaks not designed for the specific ships unavailable problem solved. |
Daemon Ceed
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
152
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:29:00 -
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Abloobloobloo! Waaaaahhhhh! Somebody is cloaking in my system and I can't carebear the way I wanna because I'm gonna get suprise buttsec'ed! Fix this CCP! And warm up my milk bottle while your at it.
Seriously bro, grow a scrot. Besides, how do YOU know they are actually AFK. Maybe they are sitting there patiently. Watching. Waiting. Warming up the KY. Just because someone is ruining your game doesn't mean that they are ruining 'the' game. I'm sure they are having great fun cultivating your neverending paranoia.
Is it just me or did some people forget that this is a multiplayer game? I'm pretty sure it is. I could be wrong. I do tend to drink a lot. Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
Suqq Madiq
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪand Diablo 1 was the best in the series anyway.
Diablo 1 was ******* awful. Anybody who says otherwise is blinded by the nostalgia of 1996 and remembering what it was like when your life had promise, potential and it was still OK to live in your mom's basement. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:35:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy? AFK? Away from keyboard ? How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means. AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking. Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers. WAH WAH WAH WAH.
I'm sorry, could you repeat that without all the incomprehensible crying?
Know what this shows? That CCP needs to make it so that when you cloak you don't show in local, that way you don't have moronic whines about people being cloaked in a system. You won't know they're there to be able to whine about them being AFK cloaked, unless they pop out of cloak and shoot you, at which point you'd know they weren't ******* AFK! |
Generals4
801
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:46:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy? AFK? Away from keyboard ? How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means. AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking. Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers. WAH WAH WAH WAH. I'm sorry, could you repeat that without all the incomprehensible crying? Know what this shows? That CCP needs to make it so that when you cloak you don't show in local, that way you don't have moronic whines about people being cloaked in a system. You won't know they're there to be able to whine about them being AFK cloaked, unless they pop out of cloak and shoot you, at which point you'd know they weren't ******* AFK!
That's actually a very good point. I support this motion.
-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
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