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Domer Pyle
Northwest Industries International Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
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Posted - 2012.06.06 09:16:00 -
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cloaking is fine, lol. who cares if people want to go afk? they're not doing anything in-game if they're AFK! |
Fenella
Dangermouse Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.06 09:33:00 -
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/me is AFK in your system soon!
Once you've finished with Diablo of course...
I can't actually kill anything but if I can generate another rage thread I'll consider it AFK time well spent. |
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.06.06 09:37:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. I will say again : You are MISSING the point. I have nothing against them, they can stay as long as they want. I just said you should be able to counter cloaking in system for days/weeks. Personally, I don't really care cos I fly ships that hardly can be killed. Trust me on that. Been camped by goons, pl, you name it. They camped and realized they can't do much to me. I won't tell you why, they just can't. It's never impossible but it's too much trouble. BUT : There are not many in the game in my position. A cloaker in system is disturbing when you have a ratting ship and that's the only one you have. There are many and different reasons but (afk) cloaking is disrupting the system/constellation even small alliance economy. This post is not about tears, it's about a specific issue I don't like. You're free to disagree, that doesn't make me smarter or makes you smarter. Different views, that's all. Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also. Now you understand that I'm really troubled about that specific issue and not about carebearing? I tried to write this last post in a non aggressive way. I tend to be aggressive even I know it's just a game. That's my personality and I may offend people with it. But I can't help it when I get those typical stupid remarks like carebear, go to highseec, pubbie and so on. So if you could post something constructive, please do.
Why are you still here I thought you were leaving for Diablo? Come on give Blizzard your money already and make the switch. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
188
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Posted - 2012.06.06 10:38:00 -
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Acwron wrote: Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Bet you kept up with your Eve subscription anyway!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
189
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Posted - 2012.06.06 10:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪand Diablo 1 was the best in the series anyway.
True +1 Internets
tho 3 is way better that 2 I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec. Were is the FW exclusive frigate sized ship? I see the cruiser and battle ship.......... |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
954
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Posted - 2012.06.06 10:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: (I'm still in favor of having a destroyer class ship with something like "spce depth charges" that can scan down a cloaky ships grid, destroyers ARE the IRL submarine killers lol).
In the modern RN it's frigates that are specialised for ASW operations. Destroyers are designed for anti-aircraft stuff, although in fairness they do each carry a helicopter that can be used against subs. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
189
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Posted - 2012.06.06 11:02:00 -
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I for one am in favor of afk cloakie's bringing down bad space empires. If you are ruined buy that then its your bad, your no beter than this goat I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec. Were is the FW exclusive frigate sized ship? I see the cruiser and battle ship.......... |
Jta Grl
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.06.06 12:20:00 -
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I have considered applying for Vera Cruz Alliance with my main for quite some time now. Not anymore. Thats unfortunate. Apelou perdeu n+¬. |
RAP ACTION HERO
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:01:00 -
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Jta Grl wrote:I have considered applying for Vera Cruz Alliance with my main for quite some time now. Not anymore. Thats unfortunate. Apelou perdeu n+¬. i am watching this space to see when the op gets kicked. |
Jta Grl
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:52:00 -
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OldMan Gana wrote:I like camping ratting systems. I enjoy reading tears from disgruntled Brazilians who can't rat in their shiny ship. You should get with Shig Tawny, follow him around for a while. Diablo is rubbish.
Vera Cruz is mostly brazilians but this guy is romanian. I just checked his bio. Makes my portuguese comentary pointless... oh well. |
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
6
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Posted - 2012.06.06 16:19:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad.
Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today I wish, I wish heGÇÖd go away...
When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldnGÇÖt see him there at all! Go away, go away, donGÇÖt you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please donGÇÖt slam the door... (slam!)
Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today Oh, how I wish heGÇÖd go away
- Antigonish (1889) by Hughes Mearns |
Aesheera
Malum Crusis
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:29:00 -
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AFK Cloakers Primary since '07. GÖÑ |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
783
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:38:00 -
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could also get rid of local, clear this issue all up Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Serina Tsukaya
Lonetrek Trade and Industries Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:42:00 -
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It's not that big of a problem, move somewhere else to rat etc, make safes, stay aligned. If they're going to make any changes at all to the cloak, it would be to give it a one hour activation timer with no auto-repeat, disabled when hit button a second time. That way, if they're not paying attention at all, you will eventually be able to scan that person down, but if said person is watching a series and just turning it back on every now and then, it'll still work as a deterrent.
Making it so that it's easy to find the person that's cloaking or have some sort of supah anti cloak module would ruin bombers and general cloaky combat tactics. But having every single system in your constellation camped by some retards abusing the buddy program, where they simply log on, and leave that character online 23 hours a day. They're not really a risk of any kind, as they're just cloakies, and can't really do anything by themselves.
It's still a bit aggrevating though to not know if that person has recently come into the system or been there for 20 hours, as you usually have no idea what they're flying.
Cloaking is fine atm really, but it could perhaps do with some element to make it require at least some sort of presence over a very long time. Then again, something like that can easily be worked around with a simple macro tool.
Still, gotta love the people who can't seem to understand how this game is about risk and reward, and being in null has it's risks and it's downsides as it should. |
Bronya Boga
Casual Flyers
0
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:50:00 -
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I love how people are just terrified by extra people in local :D its just hilarious! DO IT MORE! |
Bronya Boga
Casual Flyers
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:58:00 -
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today I wish, I wish heGÇÖd go away... When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldnGÇÖt see him there at all! Go away, go away, donGÇÖt you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please donGÇÖt slam the door... (slam!) Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today Oh, how I wish heGÇÖd go away - Antigonish (1889) by Hughes Mearns
0.0 I LOVE YOU |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1378
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Posted - 2012.06.07 06:34:00 -
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This thread needs more love.
o7o7o7o7o7 m8m8m8m8 huehuehuehue <3
/afk You don't know |
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.07 07:07:00 -
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I used to play Diablo 3, Then I got an Error in the knee
(thank you Blizzard for making me apreaciate CCP more, Showing me how much of a feat it is to run a server that doesn't throw you out 3 out of 7 times, maybe all Diably 3 players can go bash/shoot that damn auction house that nobody wants and crashes that game over and over again) |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1067
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Posted - 2012.06.07 07:25:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:I used to play Diablo 3, Then I got an Error in the knee
(thank you Blizzard for making me apreaciate CCP more, Showing me how much of a feat it is to run a server that doesn't throw you out 3 out of 7 times, maybe all Diably 3 players can go bash/shoot that damn auction house that nobody wants and crashes that game over and over again)
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=526
CCP still holds the crown my friend. I still love you CCP, just letting this guy know you are human too. Anyone have the fanfest vid of Hilmar and the other fat guy on the boot.ini thing. It was funny, so give the link here if not already done.
Bye!
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Lester Knight Chaykin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.07 07:28:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
No you are not. The Cain is a lie. |
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Xuse Senna
Analog Folk SRS.
172
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Posted - 2012.06.07 08:38:00 -
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Idiot. D3 |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope
56
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Posted - 2012.06.07 09:20:00 -
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Acwron wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE? It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking !
There is a simple counter to afk cloaking. Not flying alone. Having a friend cloaked nearby to gank the guy if he uncloaks near you, etc.
The only reason you can't find a counter to afk cloaking is because you haven't looked.
When I lived in Stain, we had 3 guys in our main system that were always afk cloaked, except when they were not afk and were actively hunting us. It didn't stop us from farming the rats, etc, and every now and then one of them would catch one of our less aware members, and every now and then one of us would catch them. That's what EVE is about.
What I learned from that situation was to never fly alone unless my ship was capable of dealing with whatever they brought and have at least a fair chance at taking one of them down with me if it came to projectiles flying. I also learned the art of teamwork and the sneaky gank. I also fell in love with Stealth Bombers XD.
~Z
I won't say you are stupid, but you're not exactly on the Zombie menu either. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.07 12:36:00 -
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I'll make it short cos it seems not everyone has the patience or time to read how many pages a thread has :
Someone afk in my system does not bother me at all. I said it in the very first post "some of us can't play". I can. And I will. The point is : You can't counter cloaking. Imagine you're in your home and you know someone's there and you can't find him. He will be there as long as he wants, you are not gonna find him. I checked the closet, I looked under the bed as well. Nothing. If Eve is real, get it closer to reality then.
It's your system, you should have advantage over your enemies. You should be able to decloak him with a POS module as I said before. I'd allow to set guns on the gates as well, it's my system, wtf, I place weapons anywhere I want !
And Diablo is fun, doesn't require thinking, just abit of kiting. And a good mouse. Maybe a couple more for backup. And don't forget to lower the volume when one of your cats is sleeping next to the speakers. I did forget. She's still acting weird. Hope she'll be fine soon. |
RAP ACTION HERO
55
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:30:00 -
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Acwron wrote:I'll make it short cos it seems not everyone has the patience or time to read how many pages a thread has :
Someone afk in my system does not bother me at all. I said it in the very first post "some of us can't play". I can. And I will. The point is : You can't counter cloaking. Imagine you're in your home and you know someone's there and you can't find him. He will be there as long as he wants, you are not gonna find him. I checked the closet, I looked under the bed as well. Nothing. If Eve is real, get it closer to reality then.
It's your system, you should have advantage over your enemies. You should be able to decloak him with a POS module as I said before. I'd allow to set guns on the gates as well, it's my system, wtf, I place weapons anywhere I want !
And Diablo is fun, doesn't require thinking, just abit of kiting. And a good mouse. Maybe a couple more for backup. And don't forget to lower the volume when one of your cats is sleeping next to the speakers. I did forget. She's still acting weird. Hope she'll be fine soon. still sound whiney |
Yuriko Deathstrike
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:18:00 -
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I started playing EVE a little over a month ago then i got D3 when it released. A week ago i was playing my witch doctor when i got bored and logged out. And this is no joke, i logged on to EVE, hopped on my mining toon and started mining Veldspar for about 3 hours.
Its the same reason i stopped playing SWTOR and LOTRO...after all those years of playing D2 back in the day, and several years of WoW it all felt the same. Star Trek Online was actually pretty cool because it had different gameplay. But what led me away from STO was the mass amounts of idiots, pay to win, lots of downtimes and of course EVE. If SWG hadnt died i would still be playing that too, CU (which i wasnt there for) or NGE doesnt matter to me. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1189
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:21:00 -
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Yuriko Deathstrike wrote:Star Trek Online was actually pretty cool because it had different gameplay. But what led me away from STO was the mass amounts of idiots, pay to win STO was pay to win?
Pity, I can remember quite looking forward to that when I first heard of it. Then I heard it was F2P and a bit crap, so I stayed away. I never realised they went pay to win though, I assumed they were trying to support it with merchandise, vanity items and advertising or some such nonsense.
It would have been nice to have another (decent) space ship MMO, even a non-sandbox one. Just for a change.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Kerensky White
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:41:00 -
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Acwron wrote:I'll make it short cos it seems not everyone has the patience or time to read how many pages a thread has :
Someone afk in my system does not bother me at all. I said it in the very first post "some of us can't play". I can. And I will.
Except you're not, you said it's made you play Diablo III instead. So clearly you do actually have a problem with it yourself, in spite of all your blustering. The only people who an afk cloaker should truly effect are those who don't pay attention, who afk rat, who run fits fragile to pvp without backup, in short, those who deserve to lose their ship.
I've only ever lost one ratting ship to a gank, and it was my own fault. If I lose another, it's my own fault. I'm fine with this.
By the way, you do have every reason to fear for your supercaps.
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Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
67
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:49:00 -
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You nullbears are funny people. Move to wormhole space, so it won't be an issue. Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter |
Yuriko Deathstrike
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.08 04:51:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Yuriko Deathstrike wrote:Star Trek Online was actually pretty cool because it had different gameplay. But what led me away from STO was the mass amounts of idiots, pay to win STO was pay to win? Pity, I can remember quite looking forward to that when I first heard of it. Then I heard it was F2P and a bit crap, so I stayed away. I never realised they went pay to win though, I assumed they were trying to support it with merchandise, vanity items and advertising or some such nonsense. It would have been nice to have another (decent) space ship MMO, even a non-sandbox one. Just for a change.
I might be getting the terms mixed up, but i think its micro transactions.
You can farm for dilithium but it takes a long time to do it. You can also buy c-points with real money, and buy dilithium to buy 'epic' quality gear. Or you can use the c-points in their store to unlock ships, buy bridge/duty officers (gives you abilities and buffs), and buy a lot of other fluff items. |
Shig Tawny
Ceptacemia Vera Cruz Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:12:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13648972 someone is mad!! fyi: me and my corp are all USA /EURO and i am #4 on eve kill solo thx to the fun in delve!
the cloaky campers that come to my systems die and a rate of 2/3 just enetering. and guess what! I dont cry about people using cloaks and cynos! its not black magic. There plenty of other ways to combat this type of gameplay |
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