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Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:45:00 -
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CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you ! |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:45:00 -
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See you in a week. |
Gerald Taric
Adamantium Industry
61
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:49:00 -
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i feel symphaty with the computer mouse ... :) |
RAP ACTION HERO
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:49:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you ! But they can only gank you if they are there. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
519
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:54:00 -
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OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2012.06.04 12:54:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Click, click, click, kill them monsters !
No neeed to click, click, click, just hold down the mouse button for the same effect. That's now user-friendly UI works.
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Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:01:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad.
Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
516
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:02:00 -
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I believe you can AFK cloak in some of Blizzards games too. |
gfldex
545
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:03:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
Cain dies. When someone burns down your sandcastle, bring sausages. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
88
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:04:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
Really dude, whinning like that is for high sec, if you want to play in null, you gotta accept the bad with the good and learn to adapt to bad situations.
I find ways to make the situation fun for me and less fun for them. 99% of all cloaky campers are simply bluffing, the 1% that results in something like a hotdrop can be dealt with easily, or at least adapted to (which is why I keep cheaper pvp fitted ratting ships close by, just in case).
I don't like the fact that a person can set a toon in a system and cloak forever in an attempt to stop activitey in that system, and I totally believe CCP should give us some tools to actively counter such a thing (I'm still in favor of having a destroyer class ship with something like "spce depth charges" that can scan down a cloaky ships grid, destroyers ARE the IRL submarine killers lol). But until they do, we can simply not give them the satisfaction of any tears.
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RAP ACTION HERO
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:05:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy.
why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE? |
Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
27
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:05:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
Yes, go play something simpler :) |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
762
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:10:00 -
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AFK cloaking would need to be fixed if it was a problem to begin with. eh |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
88
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:12:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE?
Well said. +1
When somone camps my upgrades systems, well that just means time to pull out the scanning/plex tanking ship, put a cloak+MWD plus other "pvp defense" equipment on the dps ship, and go find plexes and/or "natural" anoms in unclaimed systesms, of which there are many. Because of upgraded systems, the "natural anoms" tend to cluster in unclaimed systems, I spent a whole day cleaning an unclaimed system of forlorn and forsaken hubs. Thak you cloaky campers for making me stretch my legs a little lol.
Again, refusing to adapt belongs in high sec, not null. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:15:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE?
It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking ! |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1040
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:15:00 -
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GTFO!
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
475
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:15:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Acwron wrote:Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you ! Cain dies.
So does Leah |
Svarek
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:17:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:gfldex wrote:Acwron wrote:Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you ! Cain dies. So does Leah
So will the OP, if he's this paranoid. Grandpa Bill: "I remember my uncle Joe who used to go mining, back then it was easy to get black lung, but we called it coughing lung because we really didnt care what color it was, the coughing seemed like it should be in the title since he did so much of it." |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7642
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:18:00 -
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GǪand Diablo 1 was the best in the series anyway. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Diesel47
Warlord General
15
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:19:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
If you want to carebear go to hi-sec.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
762
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:19:00 -
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Acwron wrote:It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking !
The counter-tactic is to ignore the AFK cloaker. It's just a harmless name in local. eh |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:22:00 -
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You should go for Special Olympics...you sound retar*ded ! |
Frying Doom
Tinfoil Hat News Ltd.
281
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:24:00 -
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Risk vs reward, You want no risk, you get no reward. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
762
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:24:00 -
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guess i'm moving a few cloaky alts down to Period Basis
c u ther eh |
Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
233
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:26:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:I believe you can AFK cloak in some of Blizzards games too.
As a former druid I can confirm this is very, very true. However, no local....but I compensated by /licking my prey to make sure they knew someone was watching them. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
82
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:26:00 -
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nulltears, not as good as greifer tears but still pretty damn good. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:27:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:guess i'm moving a few cloaky alts down to Period Basis c u ther
I'll be busy with Diablo, will log tho to train afk cloaking to 5 on all my alts. |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
280
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:31:00 -
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I once ratted in 0.0 systems with cloaked nuetrals in for 120 minutes trying to get a fight and all I got was this positive sec status and about 4 dread spawns (ammo and tags yo) ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
662
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:33:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy.
Are you the real orginal Acwron?
if so can I follow you twitter :) (don't have facebook) - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
88
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:57:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you ! If you want to carebear go to hi-sec.
Are you nuts? There are a ton of Carebears in null, I am one of them, rarely pvp unless called on or asked to join a fleet but always in Null and can be normally found in Anom's in 1 of 5 systems. |
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
347
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:58:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad.
"As I was going up the stairs, I saw a man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today, I wish, I wish, he'd go away." |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
419
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:01:00 -
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Spooky monster in your closet. It's all in your head, not under your bed. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
lanyaie
418
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:02:00 -
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I'm going to stalk the OP in my cloaky rapier and have him create an entire thread dedicated to me. I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:06:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:I'm going to stalk the OP in my cloaky rapier and have him create an entire thread dedicated to me.
I don't give a **** about your rapier. I even dare you to decloak or cyno in some friends. If you ever trained cyno to 5. That's not even what I was talking about. But some of you just like to be stupid. You like it so much as you become stupid. And again, you just don't know it. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders RISE of LEGION
86
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:16:00 -
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An AFK cloaky never hurt anyone, because someone that is AFK simply cannot push the buttons necessary to hurt someone even if they wanted to. Cause, you know, you have to be at your keyboard to mash buttan. It's the non-afk cloaky camping your system that you're worried about . |
Frying Doom
Tinfoil Hat News Ltd.
281
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:23:00 -
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Acwron wrote:lanyaie wrote:I'm going to stalk the OP in my cloaky rapier and have him create an entire thread dedicated to me. I don't give a **** about your rapier. I even dare you to decloak or cyno in some friends. If you ever trained cyno to 5. That's not even what I was talking about. But some of you just like to be stupid. You like it so much as you become stupid. And again, you just don't know it. But you admit to buying a game for the intellectually challenged Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Widow Cain
13
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:31:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
The AFKer would not be bothering you if they removed local... OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Superpooper
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:40:00 -
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So op, you can not play eve because some guy is afk? lol
O right... you call it "afk cloaking" but pretend the person is not afk...
So pick one, is the person afk or not? |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
763
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:44:00 -
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Widow Cain wrote:The AFKer would not be bothering you if they removed local...
That's like saying "Let's remove suicide ganks by removing CONCORD"
Know what both suggestions have in common? They don't fix a problem because the problem doesn't exist ;p eh |
Capt Failhard
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:45:00 -
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Diablo 3 is garbage:
- Loot drops are either way under level complete crap or more suitable for a lower level character of another class.
- The whole game revolves around the AH (soon to be RMAH) and thats why loot drops suck.
- Crafting is crap and very expensive, better items can be bought at AH for and for cheaper in some cases.
- Inferno mode act 2 has an insane jump in enemy difficulty scaling so you'll be 1 shot all the time even by some white trash mobs, BE admits that this mode was not actually tested. At this point you will spend a ridiculous amount of time farming gold to buy upgrades at the AH that all cost absolute outlandish prices.
- Many people complaining about being hacked and items have gone mysteriously missing from the AH.
- Many complaints about latency problems and rubberbanding.
- Item stats are boring and some are just plain useless.
After waiting about 12 years for this dam game I am bitterly dissapointed with the end result. In my opinion the formula that made the Diablo franchise what it is, was completely gutted and replaced by a repetative and boring, money grubbing system that exploits and insults its long time and loyal fan base. Diablo will never be the same. Shame on Blizzard Entertainment!
R.I.P. Blizzard North 1993-2005 |
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:56:00 -
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Capt Failhard wrote:Diablo 3 is garbage:
- Loot drops are either way under level complete crap or more suitable for a lower level character of another class.
- The whole game revolves around the AH (soon to be RMAH) and thats why loot drops suck.
- Crafting is crap and very expensive, better items can be bought at AH for and for cheaper in some cases.
- Inferno mode act 2 has an insane jump in enemy difficulty scaling so you'll be 1 shot all the time even by some white trash mobs, BE admits that this mode was not actually tested. At this point you will spend a ridiculous amount of time farming gold to buy upgrades at the AH that all cost absolute outlandish prices.
- Many people complaining about being hacked and items have gone mysteriously missing from the AH.
- Many complaints about latency problems and rubberbanding.
- Item stats are boring and some are just plain useless.
After waiting about 12 years for this dam game I am bitterly dissapointed with the end result. In my opinion the formula that made the Diablo franchise what it is, was completely gutted and replaced by a repetative and boring, money grubbing system that exploits and insults its long time and loyal fan base. Diablo will never be the same. Shame on Blizzard Entertainment!
R.I.P. Blizzard North 1993-2005
Just sayin... Cool story Bro....
But, I just don't care...
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1772
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:01:00 -
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Acwron wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE? It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking !
Cloaking is the Counter to Local as a Perfect Intel tool. Local is the counter to Cloaking. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Capt Failhard
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:09:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Capt Failhard wrote:Diablo 3 is garbage:
- Loot drops are either way under level complete crap or more suitable for a lower level character of another class.
- The whole game revolves around the AH (soon to be RMAH) and thats why loot drops suck.
- Crafting is crap and very expensive, better items can be bought at AH for and for cheaper in some cases.
- Inferno mode act 2 has an insane jump in enemy difficulty scaling so you'll be 1 shot all the time even by some white trash mobs, BE admits that this mode was not actually tested. At this point you will spend a ridiculous amount of time farming gold to buy upgrades at the AH that all cost absolute outlandish prices.
- Many people complaining about being hacked and items have gone mysteriously missing from the AH.
- Many complaints about latency problems and rubberbanding.
- Item stats are boring and some are just plain useless.
After waiting about 12 years for this dam game I am bitterly dissapointed with the end result. In my opinion the formula that made the Diablo franchise what it is, was completely gutted and replaced by a repetative and boring, money grubbing system that exploits and insults its long time and loyal fan base. Diablo will never be the same. Shame on Blizzard Entertainment!
R.I.P. Blizzard North 1993-2005
Just sayin... Cool story Bro.... But, I just don't care... Yeah thats why I added in the "just sayin" part at the end, specifically for worthless troll like you.
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Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:14:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Acwron wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE? It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking ! Cloaking is the Counter to Local as a Perfect Intel tool. Local is the counter to Cloaking.
Huh? Come again? Cloaking is counter to local and local is counter to cloaking? My ex-wife is counter to my belongings. Just saying, nothing related.
Your signature is clear tho, you think this game is player driven. Eve is real too? Do you believe in that crap or you're just saying it? No, Eve is driven by CCP, they just let you think that Eve it's driven by you. GET REAL ! EVE IS NOT REAL !
Read EULA...IF you fart, you may be banned. They don't have to explain you why even if you pay for the game. But hey, Eve is still driven by you ! Burp ! |
Benny Ohu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
165
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:28:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Your signature is clear tho, you think this game is player driven. Eve is real too? Do you believe in that crap or you're just saying it? No, Eve is driven by CCP, they just let you think that Eve it's driven by you. GET REAL ! EVE IS NOT REAL !
Read EULA...IF you fart, you may be banned. They don't have to explain you why even if you pay for the game. But hey, Eve is still driven by you ! Burp !
You can just say you don't get it. It's okay. We won't judge. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7645
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:32:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Huh? Come again? Cloaking is counter to local and local is counter to cloaking? My ex-wife is counter to my belongings. Just saying, nothing related. Indeed, your ex-wife is not related to local.
Cloaking is, however. It acts as a counter to the perfect, automated intel system that is local by subverting the value of the intel that it provides. Cloaking makes it so that you never know whether that unknown name is up to no good or not. Conversely, local acts as a counter to cloaking. Even if you fit that fine module that makes you impossible to find, everyone instantly knows that you're there because local says so. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1772
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:35:00 -
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Acwron wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
Cloaking is the Counter to Local as a Perfect Intel tool. Local is the counter to Cloaking.
Huh? Come again? Cloaking is counter to local and local is counter to cloaking? My ex-wife is counter to my belongings. Just saying, nothing related. Your signature is clear tho, you think this game is player driven. Eve is real too? Do you believe in that crap or you're just saying it? No, Eve is driven by CCP, they just let you think that Eve it's driven by you. GET REAL ! EVE IS NOT REAL ! Read EULA...IF you fart, you may be banned. They don't have to explain you why even if you pay for the game. But hey, Eve is still driven by you ! Burp !
Local is a Perfect intel tool. You can tell exactly who is in system with you (and thus a threat to you). Cloaking makes local an imperfect way to tell who is a threat to you (because someone cloaked and AFK is not a threat to you, but you don't have any way to know they're AFK).
Cloaking is a perfect way to hide. Nobody has any way to find you (and thus tell that you're there). Local allows other players to see that you are in system, thus allowing them to alter their behavior to deal with your possible threat.
CCP have a big effect on alliance politics, do they? Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
408
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:35:00 -
[48] - Quote
You only bought Diablo three because of AFK cloaking?
lolcasual. See you on inferno biatch. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 15:55:00 -
[49] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Acwron wrote:Huh? Come again? Cloaking is counter to local and local is counter to cloaking? My ex-wife is counter to my belongings. Just saying, nothing related. Indeed, your ex-wife is not related to local. Cloaking is, however. It acts as a counter to the perfect, automated intel system that is local by subverting the value of the intel that it provides. Cloaking makes it so that you never know whether that unknown name is up to no good or not. Conversely, local acts as a counter to cloaking. Even if you fit that fine module that makes you impossible to find, everyone instantly knows that you're there because local says so.
Are you reading from a book or all those words are yours? You're just missing the point. But you can write many words one after another without saying anything really. Or you just copy paste them., doesn't matter, still you make no sense. Or to be nice, no sense to me.
We're posting on the same thread but talking about different things.
What does really concerns me now is how the hell you got so many space likes? Anyway, I have 42, I'm getting close ! |
RAP ACTION HERO
47
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:26:00 -
[50] - Quote
lol vera cruz for having the likes of this due in their ranks. |
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Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Tippia wrote:the perfect, automated intel system that is local
RubyPorto wrote:Local is a Perfect intel tool.
Perfect? You mean, as in "cannot be improved upon"? You don't think that, say, if the F11 map gave you the location, ship type and fittings of other pilots that would be an improvement? I swear you've been told a million times not to exaggerate...
I'd like to see local changed to 'constellation chat' below 0.5 sec, cloak hunting dessies, and a revamp ('iteration') of the d-scanner. At least some presets, separate tabs and auto-repeat functionality.
Think of the carbon footprint of all those AFKers. Think how many logitech mice buttons are lost to d-scan. Oh my, think of the polar bears and the mice!
Where are my meds? |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
90
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:35:00 -
[52] - Quote
Vile rat wrote:See you in a week.
Forum bans are only a week now? Damn, I'm still banned until the 12th... I only ever emerge from the shadows when my main is banned. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1774
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
Cristl wrote:Tippia wrote:the perfect, automated intel system that is local RubyPorto wrote:Local is a Perfect intel tool. Perfect? You mean, as in "cannot be improved upon"? You don't think that, say, if the F11 map gave you the location, ship type and fittings of other pilots that would be an improvement? I swear you've been told a million times not to exaggerate... I'd like to see local changed to 'constellation chat' below 0.5 sec, cloak hunting dessies, and a revamp ('iteration') of the d-scanner. At least some presets, separate tabs and auto-repeat functionality. Think of the carbon footprint of all those AFKers. Think how many logitech mice buttons are lost to d-scan. Oh my, think of the polar bears and the mice! Where are my meds?
No, as in cannot be bypassed. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
The Crushah
the unified Negative Ten.
25
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:47:00 -
[54] - Quote
CCP, HOW DARE YOU FOR CAUSING ME STRESS WHILE IM TRYING TO HONORABLY KILL NPC'S! MAKE NULL-SEC AS SAFE AS HIGH-SEC SO I CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF! |
Klown Walk
Fat People Lag IRL
94
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
Why are you scared by AFK cloakers? |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
520
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:51:00 -
[56] - Quote
Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
He dies. So does Leah.
Dammit! I was beaten to the punch!
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Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
236
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:53:00 -
[57] - Quote
Klown Walk wrote:Why are you scared by AFK cloakers?
The problem with cloakers is you never really know if they're afk or not. I'm especially paranoid since I dedicated 90% of my wow career to stalking people out questing in prowl mode. That and the one time something decloaked off my port bow, scrambled me then cyno'd in a barbeque fleet.
EDIT: Love the corp name. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
Boooop
State Protectorate Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:56:00 -
[58] - Quote
In High-Sec you can't tell who's actively trying to gank you in local either and there's hundreds of them. I know it's scary Null-Sec carebear but it's called risk vs. reward and you take a risk every time you undock. I don't understand how you could call being semi-afk, casually glancing at local and farming rats only to warp off as soon as a non-blue enters "playing EVE." I think EVE would be better off without you and you should be destroyed. |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
520
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:56:00 -
[59] - Quote
Capt Failhard wrote:Diablo 3 is garbage:
- Loot drops are either way under level complete crap or more suitable for a lower level character of another class.
- The whole game revolves around the AH (soon to be RMAH) and thats why loot drops suck.
- Crafting is crap and very expensive, better items can be bought at AH for and for cheaper in some cases.
- Inferno mode act 2 has an insane jump in enemy difficulty scaling so you'll be 1 shot all the time even by some white trash mobs, BE admits that this mode was not actually tested. At this point you will spend a ridiculous amount of time farming gold to buy upgrades at the AH that all cost absolute outlandish prices.
- Many people complaining about being hacked and items have gone mysteriously missing from the AH.
- Many complaints about latency problems and rubberbanding.
- Item stats are boring and some are just plain useless.
After waiting about 12 years for this dam game I am bitterly dissapointed with the end result. In my opinion the formula that made the Diablo franchise what it is, was completely gutted and replaced by a repetative and boring, money grubbing system that exploits and insults its long time and loyal fan base. Diablo will never be the same. Shame on Blizzard Entertainment!
R.I.P. Blizzard North 1993-2005
Just sayin...
Please take this filth to the Blizzard forums where a vocal minority can soothe your bruised nostalgia, because nobody here gives a rats maggot-infested nostrils.
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Khadann
First Legion
29
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:00:00 -
[60] - Quote
Have anyone noticced how the bombers are never cloaked in the eve trailers?
I can not wait to see this winter the ships balanced:
"Bombers can not cloak any longer. Resists and HP increased by 10%"
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Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
236
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:04:00 -
[61] - Quote
Khadann wrote:Have anyone noticced how the bombers are never cloaked in the eve trailers? I can not wait to see this winter the ships balanced: "Bombers can not cloak any longer. Resists and HP increased by 10%"
I fear a rapier far more than any stealth bomber. A single SB on a carebear ratting ship is kinda lulzy. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:04:00 -
[62] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed.
Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1774
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:11:00 -
[63] - Quote
Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed. Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps.
per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
200
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:18:00 -
[64] - Quote
Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
AFK cloaking is not a problem for anyone. It is not out of control.. and anyone who is truly AFK is no treat to you or anyone you know.. or anyone you don't know. The cloaked can accompish nothing but collecting info. they have to decloak to do anything. AFK cloakers are not at the keyboard so they are not going to decloak.
Remove all cloaked vessels from local and never worry about the AFK again. You should never know they are there. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:22:00 -
[65] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy.
Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy?
AFK?
Away from keyboard ?
How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means.
AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking.
Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic a that would have looked it least it's quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers. |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:52:00 -
[66] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed. Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps. per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy. Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool.
Heh, this is one of the things I love about the internet. So, local provides a tiny bit of information (a name; no ship fitting, more exact location or other info) and that makes it perfect. Well, that's just perfect.
No, dude, local is a powerful tool and should be reduced in power for lowsec and nullsec (I still like my constellation chat idea) but it isn't perfect. Just finding a particular sense in a word's dictionary doesn't make that usage correct in any given context. Also, if your dictionary provides pronunciation advice in the form "pur-fikt" it should be recycled. The dictionary, that is. |
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
37
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:04:00 -
[67] - Quote
Acwron wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE? It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking !
The counter to AFK cloaking is deciding which kind of balls you have. Quit Crying and Just Suck It Up |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1775
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:08:00 -
[68] - Quote
Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Cristl wrote:RubyPorto wrote:No, as in cannot be bypassed. Okay. So a completely different word to 'perfect' then. 'Inescapable' or 'unavoidable' perhaps. per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy. Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool. Heh, this is one of the things I love about the internet. So, local provides a tiny bit of information (a name; no ship fitting, more exact location or other info) and that makes it perfect. Well, that's just perfect. No, dude, local is a powerful tool and should be reduced in power for lowsec and nullsec (I still like my constellation chat idea) but it isn't perfect. Just finding a particular sense in a word's dictionary doesn't make that usage correct in any given context. Also, if your dictionary provides pronunciation advice in the form "pur-fikt" it should be recycled. The dictionary, that is.
It provides that tidbit of information (also providing what relationship he has with you, a biography, corp history, access to kb information on him[i.e. likely fittings], etc.) perfectly. It is, as you say, a powerful tool (incredibly powerful when used properly) and it is perfectly reliable.
Try it. Pur-Fikt Pear-Fect are both valid and common pronunciations. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:14:00 -
[69] - Quote
Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy? AFK? Away from keyboard ? How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means. AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking. Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers.
You're a goon, not gonna ask you to understand anything. But....Show this to a wiser guy : You never know if someone is afk or not, tell that to the whole alliance that is passing thru system,, industrials who supply POS's, carry stuff around. CLOAKERS CAN DISRUPT THE WHOLE THING AND YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO THEM COS GUESS WHAT ? THEY ARE CLOAKED ! AFK OR NOT ! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ? OFC NOT !
Now...I don't give a shite if I have cloaker(s) in system but for people in an alliance is a pain sometimes. Why don't I give a damn ? Figure it out for yourself. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
13
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:16:00 -
[70] - Quote
Vile rat wrote:See you in a week. Sadly, I agree. I picked up Daiblo III sure that it would provide a month and change of entertainment. It didn't. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:18:00 -
[71] - Quote
Boooop wrote:In High-Sec you can't tell who's actively trying to gank you in local either and there's hundreds of them. I know it's scary Null-Sec carebear but it's called risk vs. reward and you take a risk every time you undock. I don't understand how you could call being semi-afk, casually glancing at local and farming rats only to warp off as soon as a non-blue enters "playing EVE." I think EVE would be better off without you and you should be destroyed.
Is it me or you're in a NPC corp ? STFU ! |
lanyaie
418
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:23:00 -
[72] - Quote
Acwron wrote:lanyaie wrote:I'm going to stalk the OP in my cloaky rapier and have him create an entire thread dedicated to me. I don't give a **** about your rapier. I even dare you to decloak or cyno in some friends. If you ever trained cyno to 5. That's not even what I was talking about. But some of you just like to be stupid. You like it so much as you become stupid. And again, you just don't know it.
location? Ill be on my way
PS: you cared enough to reply to t so you do give a **** (whatever 4 stars may mean) I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:26:00 -
[73] - Quote
@ Ruby and Tippia:
Local only provides the name. You can check out all the other stuff from people and places for anyone at any time. Or even from this website. Let me guess, Ruby: your toon was created in January 2009. Magic isn't it! Your main...not so easy, but local won't tell me that either.
I'm not saying a name can't be useful, but that really is all local provides: a name in a certain system. It ain't "perfect intel". This semantic crap will be getting tedious for other forum users so let's drop this now.
An d-scan still needs 'iteration'. Improve/rejig d-scan and lots of these complaints can die CCP. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:39:00 -
[74] - Quote
Cristl wrote:@ Ruby and Tippia:
Local only provides the name. You can check out all the other stuff from people and places for anyone at any time. Or even from this website. Let me guess, Ruby: your toon was created in January 2009. Magic isn't it! Your main...not so easy, but local won't tell me that either.
I'm not saying a name can't be useful, but that really is all local provides: a name in a certain system. It ain't "perfect intel". This semantic crap will be getting tedious for other forum users so let's drop this now.
An d-scan still needs 'iteration'. Improve/rejig d-scan and lots of these complaints can die CCP.
Iteration ? You got new inventory ! What you could do in seconds, you can do now in hours ! Who cares about broken stuff ? Let's break what works perfectly fine instead ! |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1776
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:55:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cristl wrote:@ Ruby and Tippia:
Local only provides the name. You can check out all the other stuff from people and places for anyone at any time. Or even from this website. Let me guess, Ruby: your toon was created in January 2009. Magic isn't it! Your main...not so easy, but local won't tell me that either.
I'm not saying a name can't be useful, but that really is all local provides: a name in a certain system. It ain't "perfect intel". This semantic crap will be getting tedious for other forum users so let's drop this now.
An d-scan still needs 'iteration'. Improve/rejig d-scan and lots of these complaints can die CCP.
Local provides the name. The name is kind of important because it's what lets you learn about the person in your Local. Imagine Local that just told you your standings to someone. Much less powerful, huh? Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 19:27:00 -
[76] - Quote
So you agree that local provides nothing but the name and system. Excellent.
Well imagine if local gave precise info on ship location, ship type and ship fitting. Wouldn't that be an improvement over current intel? And if so, then the current intel situation can't be perfect now can it?
Lovely. See, that wasn't so difficult after all was it? |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
34
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Posted - 2012.06.04 19:59:00 -
[77] - Quote
gb2d3 Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07 or uninstall and DIAF |
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:08:00 -
[78] - Quote
Hasn't AFK cloaking been around since pretty much covert ops cloaks? |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:09:00 -
[79] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:
per-+fectGÇé GÇé[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] adjective 5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
Local is accurate in every detail it provides information on. Perfect intelligence tool.
Accurate != perfect. Note the example in the definition you referenced, it's a specific use. Local is a "perfect copy" of some character information, it is not a "perfect intel tool".
There is a lot of intel local does not provide, in the broader and more applicable use it is imperfect.
e.g. Is that person in local docked or in space? That's pretty fundamental to not be provided by a "perfect intelligence tool".
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
90
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:10:00 -
[80] - Quote
posting in afk cloaking thread #14751
And still the same non-argument. You are not forbidden to undock just because you have a cloaked ship in your system.
There are places in eve that don't even have a local and they are not the ones complaining about afk cloakers in the system. The danger is even bigger but somehow they manage to mine, rat and do their thing without tears. Of course they always fly only ships they can afford to loose, if they are in bigger numbers they even camp the entrance to secure the operation that is going on. Still they can not be sure if someone is already in there sitting 5k from their mining barge, ready to send them back to empire the fast way.
So it is not a game issue. You probably think you have the right for a secure space where you can bring out your officer fitted ratting ship without the risk of loosing it. You don't even think about an alternative to avoid a big loss in case you get ganked.
Also it works both ways. If you rat in a drake while there is clearly a cloaked ship in the system will he attack you? How does he know it's not a trap? I mean it's clearly a trap!! drakes are always a trap!!!! And maybe sometimes it is, and sometimes you just rat.
tl;dr grow some balls, learn how this game works |
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Ezekeil Rage
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:16:00 -
[81] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:
You can just say you don't get it. It's okay. We won't judge.
Yes we will. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
627
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:24:00 -
[82] - Quote
There are exactly 0 covops cloaking ships in the game that can't be killed by a single PVP fit hurricane. If you can't get a single t1 battlecruiser to protect you in your own sov then you have absolutely no right to have sov in the first place. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:27:00 -
[83] - Quote
Natsett Amuinn wrote: As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers.
Those are bots
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:40:00 -
[84] - Quote
Wait wait WAIT A DAMN SECOND.
Your telling me, that if someone AFK cloaks in a system, it shuts down your engines and cap and revokes all undocking rights? I lied :o
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
64
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:20:00 -
[85] - Quote
Show us on the Doll where the bad man touched you. -á-á |\__/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |
Zelman Axe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:25:00 -
[86] - Quote
its a relatively easy fix just make cloak ships burn liquid ozone to cloak or run a 15min cycle and make cloaks not designed for the specific ships unavailable problem solved. |
Daemon Ceed
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
152
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:29:00 -
[87] - Quote
Abloobloobloo! Waaaaahhhhh! Somebody is cloaking in my system and I can't carebear the way I wanna because I'm gonna get suprise buttsec'ed! Fix this CCP! And warm up my milk bottle while your at it.
Seriously bro, grow a scrot. Besides, how do YOU know they are actually AFK. Maybe they are sitting there patiently. Watching. Waiting. Warming up the KY. Just because someone is ruining your game doesn't mean that they are ruining 'the' game. I'm sure they are having great fun cultivating your neverending paranoia.
Is it just me or did some people forget that this is a multiplayer game? I'm pretty sure it is. I could be wrong. I do tend to drink a lot. Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
Suqq Madiq
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:29:00 -
[88] - Quote
Tippia wrote:GǪand Diablo 1 was the best in the series anyway.
Diablo 1 was ******* awful. Anybody who says otherwise is blinded by the nostalgia of 1996 and remembering what it was like when your life had promise, potential and it was still OK to live in your mom's basement. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:35:00 -
[89] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy? AFK? Away from keyboard ? How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means. AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking. Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers. WAH WAH WAH WAH.
I'm sorry, could you repeat that without all the incomprehensible crying?
Know what this shows? That CCP needs to make it so that when you cloak you don't show in local, that way you don't have moronic whines about people being cloaked in a system. You won't know they're there to be able to whine about them being AFK cloaked, unless they pop out of cloak and shoot you, at which point you'd know they weren't ******* AFK! |
Generals4
801
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:46:00 -
[90] - Quote
Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. Op said AFK cloaking, and you're attacking this guy? AFK? Away from keyboard ? How stupid can the guy your quoting be if you and the OP don't know what AFK means. AFK doesn't mean, at my keyboard, watching a movie, while keeping an eye on the system I'm cloaked in in EVE. That's called multitasking. Perhaps the OP should read, CCP please fix players that can multitask in a system while cloaked. As moronic as that would have looked at least it's not quite as stupid as complaining about people not even at their computers. WAH WAH WAH WAH. I'm sorry, could you repeat that without all the incomprehensible crying? Know what this shows? That CCP needs to make it so that when you cloak you don't show in local, that way you don't have moronic whines about people being cloaked in a system. You won't know they're there to be able to whine about them being AFK cloaked, unless they pop out of cloak and shoot you, at which point you'd know they weren't ******* AFK!
That's actually a very good point. I support this motion.
-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
467
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:26:00 -
[91] - Quote
AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Widow Cain
14
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:38:00 -
[92] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Widow Cain wrote:The AFKer would not be bothering you if they removed local... That's like saying "Let's remove suicide ganks by removing CONCORD" Know what both suggestions have in common? They don't fix a problem because the problem doesn't exist ;p
Yes, nullbear there is a problem, it is called no risk intel, this guy wouldn't be complaining about the cloaker if he wasn't getting free intel. OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:10:00 -
[93] - Quote
Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone.
I will say again : You are MISSING the point. I have nothing against them, they can stay as long as they want. I just said you should be able to counter cloaking in system for days/weeks. Personally, I don't really care cos I fly ships that hardly can be killed. Trust me on that. Been camped by goons, pl, you name it. They camped and realized they can't do much to me. I won't tell you why, they just can't. It's never impossible but it's too much trouble.
BUT : There are not many in the game in my position. A cloaker in system is disturbing when you have a ratting ship and that's the only one you have. There are many and different reasons but (afk) cloaking is disrupting the system/constellation even small alliance economy.
This post is not about tears, it's about a specific issue I don't like. You're free to disagree, that doesn't make me smarter or makes you smarter. Different views, that's all.
Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also.
Now you understand that I'm really troubled about that specific issue and not about carebearing?
I tried to write this last post in a non aggressive way. I tend to be aggressive even I know it's just a game. That's my personality and I may offend people with it. But I can't help it when I get those typical stupid remarks like carebear, go to highseec, pubbie and so on. So if you could post something constructive, please do. |
TigerXtrm
Cadre Assault Force Initiative Mercenaries
25
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:22:00 -
[94] - Quote
Vimsy Vortis wrote:There are exactly 0 covops cloaking ships in the game that can't be killed by a single PVP fit hurricane. If you can't get a single t1 battlecruiser to protect you in your own sov then you have absolutely no right to have sov in the first place.
This, pretty much. An alliance is a laughing stock if a single cloaked ship can shut everything down. And self respecting corp would organize a trap/hunt. Hulk in belt and wait until he takes the bait. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:53:00 -
[95] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. I will say again : You are MISSING the point. I have nothing against them, they can stay as long as they want. I just said you should be able to counter cloaking in system for days/weeks. Personally, I don't really care cos I fly ships that hardly can be killed. Trust me on that. Been camped by goons, pl, you name it. They camped and realized they can't do much to me. I won't tell you why, they just can't. It's never impossible but it's too much trouble. BUT : There are not many in the game in my position. A cloaker in system is disturbing when you have a ratting ship and that's the only one you have. There are many and different reasons but (afk) cloaking is disrupting the system/constellation even small alliance economy. This post is not about tears, it's about a specific issue I don't like. You're free to disagree, that doesn't make me smarter or makes you smarter. Different views, that's all. Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also. Now you understand that I'm really troubled about that specific issue and not about carebearing? I tried to write this last post in a non aggressive way. I tend to be aggressive even I know it's just a game. That's my personality and I may offend people with it. But I can't help it when I get those typical stupid remarks like carebear, go to highseec, pubbie and so on. So if you could post something constructive, please do.
What!!!! How the hell does an AFK cloaker disrupt anything? WTF are you talking about? Seriously, explain it. How is someone who is afk cloaked in a system anything other then a name in a local list? And how does a single ship AFK cloaked mess up the economy of a small alliance?
Different views? I feel like maybe we're not even using the same english.
Dear CCP, Please make cloaking remove a player from the local list. |
Shepard Book
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:55:00 -
[96] - Quote
Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
Only after they remove local! You know what local is right? That free intel your getting to know someone is there to begin with... Go back to high sec so concord can hold you hand. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
775
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:08:00 -
[97] - Quote
Shepard Book wrote:Only after they remove local! You know what local is right? That free intel your getting to know someone is there to begin with... Go back to high sec so concord can hold you hand.
lmao I love how AFK cloaking whine threads attract all of the failed PvPers whining about local like flies on crap eh |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1127
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:08:00 -
[98] - Quote
To my everlasting surprise, Blizzard refunded my Diablo 3 purchase.
"I don't like this game, Blizzard. As you can see, I've barely played."
"OK Deggies, np."
I'm posting mostly off topic, because on topic was already crushed. You don't know |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:11:00 -
[99] - Quote
Vile rat wrote:See you in a week.
thought you were on the csm wheres your tag |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
775
|
Posted - 2012.06.05 01:18:00 -
[100] - Quote
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Vile rat wrote:See you in a week. thought you were on the csm wheres your tag
he didn't run for csm 7 eh |
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EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:19:00 -
[101] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Vile rat wrote:See you in a week. thought you were on the csm wheres your tag he didn't run for csm 7
ah lol ok
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Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:12:00 -
[102] - Quote
Hold the **** on. Is OP really quitting because he's too scared to fly in a system with someone in it?
What an idiot. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
|
Posted - 2012.06.05 02:17:00 -
[103] - Quote
Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered. |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
161
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:21:00 -
[104] - Quote
Find another system to rat in.
What we are doing to you is called asset denial, in this case we are denying you your upgraded ratting systems. |
Boogie Jones
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:29:00 -
[105] - Quote
You have alts. We have Fountain. Hop to it and htfu. [ 2012.05.30 22:28:43 ] Shirley C > Even Boogie Jones has more awesomes than you |
Time Funnel
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
156
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:32:00 -
[106] - Quote
Whoever is AFK camping you should be ashamed of themselves. Who plays the game like this?
Seriously if you encountering this sort of person you should immediately move to Great Wildlands. Nobody will do that to you there. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1241
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:55:00 -
[107] - Quote
Blizzard,weeding stupid since 2003. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:55:00 -
[108] - Quote
Alexa Coates wrote:Hold the **** on. Is OP really quitting because he's too scared to fly in a system with someone in it?
What an idiot.
Obviously you didn't bother to read the past posts. |
RAP ACTION HERO
50
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:57:00 -
[109] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. I will say again : You are MISSING the point. I have nothing against them, they can stay as long as they want. I just said you should be able to counter cloaking in system for days/weeks. Personally, I don't really care cos I fly ships that hardly can be killed. Trust me on that. Been camped by goons, pl, you name it. They camped and realized they can't do much to me. I won't tell you why, they just can't. It's never impossible but it's too much trouble. BUT : There are not many in the game in my position. A cloaker in system is disturbing when you have a ratting ship and that's the only one you have. There are many and different reasons but (afk) cloaking is disrupting the system/constellation even small alliance economy. This post is not about tears, it's about a specific issue I don't like. You're free to disagree, that doesn't make me smarter or makes you smarter. Different views, that's all. Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also. Now you understand that I'm really troubled about that specific issue and not about carebearing? I tried to write this last post in a non aggressive way. I tend to be aggressive even I know it's just a game. That's my personality and I may offend people with it. But I can't help it when I get those typical stupid remarks like carebear, go to highseec, pubbie and so on. So if you could post something constructive, please do. blah blah blah my butthurt inspired my brilliant and unique countermeasure idea |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:00:00 -
[110] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered.
Waiting for you. I promise I will do whatever I do as you weren't there. You will leave after a few days as anyone else. Disappointed or dead. More like disapppointed assuming you won't ever decloak. |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:06:00 -
[111] - Quote
Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered. Waiting for you. I promise I will do whatever I do as you weren't there. You will leave after a few days as anyone else. Disappointed or dead. More like disapppointed assuming you won't ever decloak.
Soooo what's the complaint about then? |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:07:00 -
[112] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered. Waiting for you. I promise I will do whatever I do as you weren't there. You will leave after a few days as anyone else. Disappointed or dead. More like disapppointed assuming you won't ever decloak. Soooo what's the complaint about then? You understood that? WTF? |
Widow Cain
15
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:09:00 -
[113] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered. Waiting for you. I promise I will do whatever I do as you weren't there. You will leave after a few days as anyone else. Disappointed or dead. More like disapppointed assuming you won't ever decloak. Soooo what's the complaint about then?
You have to have a mining laser to shoot the new Hulk Monumnet in Jita and they are pissed...
OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:11:00 -
[114] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered. Waiting for you. I promise I will do whatever I do as you weren't there. You will leave after a few days as anyone else. Disappointed or dead. More like disapppointed assuming you won't ever decloak. Soooo what's the complaint about then?
Care to read previous posts so I don't have to repeat myself? |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:20:00 -
[115] - Quote
Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered. Waiting for you. I promise I will do whatever I do as you weren't there. You will leave after a few days as anyone else. Disappointed or dead. More like disapppointed assuming you won't ever decloak. Soooo what's the complaint about then? Care to read previous posts so I don't have to repeat myself?
No?
I mean you whinge about afk cloaking then blabber on about how it doesn't affect you. |
Sheol Duncan
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:34:00 -
[116] - Quote
For the price of 500m I can order the AFK Cloakers to leave your corp alone. Please send me the isk with your corporation name in the comment. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
780
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:29:00 -
[117] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx.
suddenly the afk cloaker is in a cynohic
and not afk
lmao eh |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:32:00 -
[118] - Quote
Sheol Duncan wrote:For the price of 500m I can order the AFK Cloakers to leave your corp alone. Please send me the isk with your corporation name in the comment.
Test is making everyone laugh ! Test tears, best tears ^^ |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:34:00 -
[119] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Acwron wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Haha I just fit out a rapier too. The "What to do with it" question just got answered. Waiting for you. I promise I will do whatever I do as you weren't there. You will leave after a few days as anyone else. Disappointed or dead. More like disapppointed assuming you won't ever decloak. Soooo what's the complaint about then? Care to read previous posts so I don't have to repeat myself? No? I mean you whinge about afk cloaking then blabber on about how it doesn't affect you.
You're a goon therefore you can't understand...don't bother. |
Soldarius
TreadStone Standard The 99 Percent
224
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:35:00 -
[120] - Quote
See you in Delve this weekend. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
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Markus Reese
Incertae Sedis Cascade Imminent
203
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:53:00 -
[121] - Quote
cause I know how badly afk cloaking has affected me, it has made me pay attention in eve. Ohnoes!
Side note, here is a video blog translation about this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
783
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Posted - 2012.06.05 05:10:00 -
[122] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Test tears, best tears
the funny thing is that you're the only one posting tears
"abloobloobloo afk cloakers i'm going to play D3" eh |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1566
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Posted - 2012.06.05 05:53:00 -
[123] - Quote
That's funny, last time I cloaked in 0.0, it was because I was outnumbered and outgunned and didn't want to end up on the killboard of yet another adult-sized child with a sense of entitlement.
I remember actually being there too.
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
469
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Posted - 2012.06.05 06:46:00 -
[124] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Now you understand that I'm really troubled about that specific issue and not about carebearing? No, all I see is "WAH I CAN'T RAT WITH A MEAN PERSON IN LOCAL WHO IS CLOAKING AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS OR IF HES EVEN THERE HOLD MY HAND CCP EVEN THOUGH I'M AN ~elite ratter in an unkillable ship~ I WANT TO RAT WAH." Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
787
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Posted - 2012.06.05 06:52:00 -
[125] - Quote
OP should go buy another super from a goon Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Itherael Fate
7
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:08:00 -
[126] - Quote
I demand AFK cloaking POS Towers! Rules of The Game 1. Everyone in the world is playing The Game. A person cannot not play The Game; it does not require consent to play and one can never stop playing. 2. Whenever one thinks about The Game, one loses. 3. Losses must be announced to at least one person. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
20
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:33:00 -
[127] - Quote
So generally, how can you waste tears about AFK cloaking if you cannot know that someone is AFK? If so: No Problem.
So, after thinking about that you might gonna think "Oh hey, he is right, so cloaking is the issue, not being afk!".
I'm afraid, you're wrong.
Cloaking is working as intended. For years.
And no, you won't ever be able to place decloak probes, sonar modules or whatever comes to your desperated mind and you will never ever see "cloak fuel". Deal with it.
And yes, I like to educate people. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
788
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:40:00 -
[128] - Quote
Colonel Xaven wrote:So generally, how can you waste tears about AFK cloaking if you cannot know that someone is AFK? If so: No Problem.
So, after thinking about that you might gonna think "Oh hey, he is right, so cloaking is the issue, not being afk!".
I'm afraid, you're wrong.
Cloaking is working as intended. For years.
And no, you won't ever be able to place decloak probes, sonar modules or whatever comes to your desperated mind and you will never ever see "cloak fuel". Deal with it.
And yes, I like to educate people. Sadly, CCP has been making noises about caving to the anti-cloaky crowd lately. Seen a few quotes from Soundwave about how they are thinking about ways to 'solve' the 'afk cloaky problem'
So if we can't convince them that its not a problem, they will likely be doing something to nerf this tactic. And knowing them, probably something totally ******** that is going to destroy long term deep cover infiltration ops, as well as cloakyfags. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Luis Graca
31
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:42:00 -
[129] - Quote
YOU GUYS ARE ALL DUMB ASSES
World of tanks it's much cheaper and better CCP SUCKS |
Bianca Success
Deutsche Recycling GmbH New Eden Industrie Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:31:00 -
[130] - Quote
Hi! The best post in EVE is: STOP Whining, Carebear! You can make a discussion, really?
An AFK-Cloaker is very Dangerous, only AFK -Cloaker say they are harmless. And the name AFK-Cloaker is only a name. They stay for days by your side and wait till you accept them as normal. Some take houres and some take days, because you will play the game. The only Chance to get them is a little bit of luck or go to the garden, drink a few beer, enjoy your BBQ and ignore the strategic / military or industry lvl.
An Industrial Core need fuel, a siege-module need fuel, to jump need fuel, why not cloaking? A Fuel-Bay for 3 houres, or a Skill to scan them when they move or warp, because they jet energy. Lvl 1 allows scanning of a warp jet and lvl 2-5 raise the chance of scanning the move jet. |
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1783
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:41:00 -
[131] - Quote
Bianca Success wrote:Hi! The best post in EVE is: STOP Whining, Carebear! You can make a discussion, really?
An AFK-Cloaker is very Dangerous, only AFK -Cloaker say they are harmless. And the name AFK-Cloaker is only a name. They stay for days by your side and wait till you accept them as normal. Some take houres and some take days, because you will play the game. The only Chance to get them is a little bit of luck or go to the garden, drink a few beer, enjoy your BBQ and ignore the strategic / military or industry lvl.
An Industrial Core need fuel, a siege-module need fuel, to jump need fuel, why not cloaking? A Fuel-Bay for 3 houres, or a Skill to scan them when they move or warp, because they jet energy. Lvl 1 allows scanning of a warp jet and lvl 2-5 raise the chance of scanning the move jet.
Industrial core provides compression and massive boosts. Jumping provides transportation. Cloaking AFK provides you with no benefit. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
18
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:42:00 -
[132] - Quote
Vile rat wrote:See you in a week.
make that 5 days , we should see him clawing back REAL soon |
StainLessStealRat
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
3
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:53:00 -
[133] - Quote
To think i was considering having a change this week and camping somewhere else.
if you want to do something about it take a page out of Pangu Coalitions books, they have been the only threat so far. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
789
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:46:00 -
[134] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:Cloaking AFK provides you with no benefit. It does make harvesting tears from people unable to adapt easier
Of course, if they nerf AFK cloaking people will move to ships moving too fast to be probed out, fit with a cyno and tackle, so even if cloak mechanics were changed, the actual situations people are whining about wouldn't change. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
1013
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:55:00 -
[135] - Quote
From Vera Cruz alliance? I am disappointed... quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Nirnias Stirrum
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
183
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:29:00 -
[136] - Quote
Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
insert mandatory "No one has ever been killed by an AFK cloaker" here:
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Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
28
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:43:00 -
[137] - Quote
You can't play because you have an afk cloaker around? You are doing something wrong. Living in 0.0 - sorry my friend - but this place is not meant to be for secure carebearing only. Find a way to deal with it. |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
76
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:46:00 -
[138] - Quote
Let me tell you about staying aligned whilst grinding belt rats or anoms, and then never losing a ship to cloakies because you just warp out if they try anything.
Wait, we're still pretending that all this fuss isn't really about people's ratting macros being disrupted, right? |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
792
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:47:00 -
[139] - Quote
Pheusia wrote:Let me tell you about staying aligned whilst grinding belt rats or anoms, and then never losing a ship to cloakies because you just warp out if they try anything.
Wait, we're still pretending that all this fuss isn't really about people's ratting macros being disrupted, right?
Well, he is a botter. eh |
Onyx Nyx
Perkone Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:50:00 -
[140] - Quote
I am a AFK cloaker, and I've never hurt anyone... much. |
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OldMan Gana
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:01:00 -
[141] - Quote
I like camping ratting systems. I enjoy reading tears from disgruntled Brazilians who can't rat in their shiny ship. You should get with Shig Tawny, follow him around for a while. Diablo is rubbish. There are an awful lot of people about who have been City fans all their life, but had never mentioned football before this season. Funny that. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
29
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:12:00 -
[142] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. *waaaaaaah* Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also.
wow.. you are sooo manly with your titans and nyxes.. and you are crying on the forums like a schoolgirl at the sight of her first.. *bleep* why exactly? \ shesh, afk cloaking isnt a problem. hell even highsec people go out in their flimsy tengus in systems with hundreds of people, all of whom can kill them instantly.. got to love those tornadoes vs flimsy tengus :)
now where did i put that anathema again... |
Strychnovem
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:34:00 -
[143] - Quote
PSA: Threads like this only encourage AFK cloaking. |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
214
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:02:00 -
[144] - Quote
Posting in a "Rage against the AFK cloakers" thread... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:24:00 -
[145] - Quote
Lady Naween wrote:Acwron wrote:Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. *waaaaaaah* Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also. wow.. you are sooo manly with your titans and nyxes.. and you are crying on the forums like a schoolgirl at the sight of her first.. *bleep* why exactly? \ shesh, afk cloaking isnt a problem. hell even highsec people go out in their flimsy tengus in systems with hundreds of people, all of whom can kill them instantly.. got to love those tornadoes vs flimsy tengus :) now where did i put that anathema again...
I would tell you where to stick it when you find it. Deep inside. Whole nine yards. |
Dethmourne Silvermane
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:45:00 -
[146] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. I will say again : You are MISSING the point. I have nothing against them, they can stay as long as they want. I just said you should be able to counter cloaking in system for days/weeks. Personally, I don't really care cos I fly ships that hardly can be killed. Trust me on that. Been camped by goons, pl, you name it. They camped and realized they can't do much to me. I won't tell you why, they just can't. It's never impossible but it's too much trouble. BUT : There are not many in the game in my position. A cloaker in system is disturbing when you have a ratting ship and that's the only one you have. There are many and different reasons but (afk) cloaking is disrupting the system/constellation even small alliance economy. This post is not about tears, it's about a specific issue I don't like. You're free to disagree, that doesn't make me smarter or makes you smarter. Different views, that's all. Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also. Now you understand that I'm really troubled about that specific issue and not about carebearing? I tried to write this last post in a non aggressive way. I tend to be aggressive even I know it's just a game. That's my personality and I may offend people with it. But I can't help it when I get those typical stupid remarks like carebear, go to highseec, pubbie and so on. So if you could post something constructive, please do.
ITT: Pubbie Carebear crying because he can't rat in his super. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:13:00 -
[147] - Quote
quote]ITT: Pubbie Carebear crying because he can't rat in his super.[/quote]
Braindead. |
super babysitter
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:22:00 -
[148] - Quote
also you do know there has not been anyone killed by an afk cloaky camper right. because you cant target dudes when you are cloaked and if you are afk you are not at the computer |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1162
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:22:00 -
[149] - Quote
Diesel47 wrote:Acwron wrote:CCP, fix this afk cloaking. I for one am tired with it. You made a game some of us can't play.
Create a POS module which can be installed in a system where you hold the SOV. Module that can be activated and decloak enemy cloaked ships. Every half an hour or one hour, doesn't matter. If they wanna camp, they're free to do it. But they have to be there. Otherwise, using that module, I decloak and kill them. Would give me a chance to do something in return.
Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you ! If you want to carebear go to hi-sec. Some of us care bears live in low and 0.0 too.
Oh wait, you're a themepark MMO player that wants segregated PvE and PvP. I guess you've just misunderstood what all the care bear hate is even about.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.06.06 00:10:00 -
[150] - Quote
super babysitter wrote:also you do know there has not been anyone killed by an afk cloaky camper right. because you cant target dudes when you are cloaked and if you are afk you are not at the computer
Thanks for the info. Wanna be my friend? |
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Domer Pyle
Northwest Industries International Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
3
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Posted - 2012.06.06 09:16:00 -
[151] - Quote
cloaking is fine, lol. who cares if people want to go afk? they're not doing anything in-game if they're AFK! |
Fenella
Dangermouse Inc.
2
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Posted - 2012.06.06 09:33:00 -
[152] - Quote
/me is AFK in your system soon!
Once you've finished with Diablo of course...
I can't actually kill anything but if I can generate another rage thread I'll consider it AFK time well spent. |
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.06.06 09:37:00 -
[153] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Lykouleon wrote:AFK cloaking ships have never killed anyone. I will say again : You are MISSING the point. I have nothing against them, they can stay as long as they want. I just said you should be able to counter cloaking in system for days/weeks. Personally, I don't really care cos I fly ships that hardly can be killed. Trust me on that. Been camped by goons, pl, you name it. They camped and realized they can't do much to me. I won't tell you why, they just can't. It's never impossible but it's too much trouble. BUT : There are not many in the game in my position. A cloaker in system is disturbing when you have a ratting ship and that's the only one you have. There are many and different reasons but (afk) cloaking is disrupting the system/constellation even small alliance economy. This post is not about tears, it's about a specific issue I don't like. You're free to disagree, that doesn't make me smarter or makes you smarter. Different views, that's all. Imagine how troubled, desperate even regarding the isk. I can't carebear, Oh, Dear LORD ! Suddenly I remember that I have 2 Titans, 1 Nyx. Do I sound that desperate to you ? I'm not really. Don't even want to mention the assets. I could easily do absolutely nothing for years from now on. Accounts already payed til 2013 also. Now you understand that I'm really troubled about that specific issue and not about carebearing? I tried to write this last post in a non aggressive way. I tend to be aggressive even I know it's just a game. That's my personality and I may offend people with it. But I can't help it when I get those typical stupid remarks like carebear, go to highseec, pubbie and so on. So if you could post something constructive, please do.
Why are you still here I thought you were leaving for Diablo? Come on give Blizzard your money already and make the switch. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
188
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Posted - 2012.06.06 10:38:00 -
[154] - Quote
Acwron wrote: Meanwhile, Blizzard wants to thank you cos you made me buy Diablo 3. Click, click, click, kill them monsters ! At least here there's no afk cloak camping.
Bet you kept up with your Eve subscription anyway!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
189
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Posted - 2012.06.06 10:47:00 -
[155] - Quote
Tippia wrote:GǪand Diablo 1 was the best in the series anyway.
True +1 Internets
tho 3 is way better that 2 I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec. Were is the FW exclusive frigate sized ship? I see the cruiser and battle ship.......... |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
954
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Posted - 2012.06.06 10:54:00 -
[156] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote: (I'm still in favor of having a destroyer class ship with something like "spce depth charges" that can scan down a cloaky ships grid, destroyers ARE the IRL submarine killers lol).
In the modern RN it's frigates that are specialised for ASW operations. Destroyers are designed for anti-aircraft stuff, although in fairness they do each carry a helicopter that can be used against subs. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
189
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Posted - 2012.06.06 11:02:00 -
[157] - Quote
I for one am in favor of afk cloakie's bringing down bad space empires. If you are ruined buy that then its your bad, your no beter than this goat I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec. Were is the FW exclusive frigate sized ship? I see the cruiser and battle ship.......... |
Jta Grl
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.06.06 12:20:00 -
[158] - Quote
I have considered applying for Vera Cruz Alliance with my main for quite some time now. Not anymore. Thats unfortunate. Apelou perdeu n+¬. |
RAP ACTION HERO
53
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:01:00 -
[159] - Quote
Jta Grl wrote:I have considered applying for Vera Cruz Alliance with my main for quite some time now. Not anymore. Thats unfortunate. Apelou perdeu n+¬. i am watching this space to see when the op gets kicked. |
Jta Grl
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:52:00 -
[160] - Quote
OldMan Gana wrote:I like camping ratting systems. I enjoy reading tears from disgruntled Brazilians who can't rat in their shiny ship. You should get with Shig Tawny, follow him around for a while. Diablo is rubbish.
Vera Cruz is mostly brazilians but this guy is romanian. I just checked his bio. Makes my portuguese comentary pointless... oh well. |
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
6
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Posted - 2012.06.06 16:19:00 -
[161] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad.
Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today I wish, I wish heGÇÖd go away...
When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldnGÇÖt see him there at all! Go away, go away, donGÇÖt you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please donGÇÖt slam the door... (slam!)
Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today Oh, how I wish heGÇÖd go away
- Antigonish (1889) by Hughes Mearns |
Aesheera
Malum Crusis
61
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:29:00 -
[162] - Quote
AFK Cloakers Primary since '07. GÖÑ |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
783
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:38:00 -
[163] - Quote
could also get rid of local, clear this issue all up Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Serina Tsukaya
Lonetrek Trade and Industries Test Friends Please Ignore
13
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:42:00 -
[164] - Quote
It's not that big of a problem, move somewhere else to rat etc, make safes, stay aligned. If they're going to make any changes at all to the cloak, it would be to give it a one hour activation timer with no auto-repeat, disabled when hit button a second time. That way, if they're not paying attention at all, you will eventually be able to scan that person down, but if said person is watching a series and just turning it back on every now and then, it'll still work as a deterrent.
Making it so that it's easy to find the person that's cloaking or have some sort of supah anti cloak module would ruin bombers and general cloaky combat tactics. But having every single system in your constellation camped by some retards abusing the buddy program, where they simply log on, and leave that character online 23 hours a day. They're not really a risk of any kind, as they're just cloakies, and can't really do anything by themselves.
It's still a bit aggrevating though to not know if that person has recently come into the system or been there for 20 hours, as you usually have no idea what they're flying.
Cloaking is fine atm really, but it could perhaps do with some element to make it require at least some sort of presence over a very long time. Then again, something like that can easily be worked around with a simple macro tool.
Still, gotta love the people who can't seem to understand how this game is about risk and reward, and being in null has it's risks and it's downsides as it should. |
Bronya Boga
Casual Flyers
0
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:50:00 -
[165] - Quote
I love how people are just terrified by extra people in local :D its just hilarious! DO IT MORE! |
Bronya Boga
Casual Flyers
0
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:58:00 -
[166] - Quote
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today I wish, I wish heGÇÖd go away... When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldnGÇÖt see him there at all! Go away, go away, donGÇÖt you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please donGÇÖt slam the door... (slam!) Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasnGÇÖt there He wasnGÇÖt there again today Oh, how I wish heGÇÖd go away - Antigonish (1889) by Hughes Mearns
0.0 I LOVE YOU |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1378
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Posted - 2012.06.07 06:34:00 -
[167] - Quote
This thread needs more love.
o7o7o7o7o7 m8m8m8m8 huehuehuehue <3
/afk You don't know |
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.06.07 07:07:00 -
[168] - Quote
I used to play Diablo 3, Then I got an Error in the knee
(thank you Blizzard for making me apreaciate CCP more, Showing me how much of a feat it is to run a server that doesn't throw you out 3 out of 7 times, maybe all Diably 3 players can go bash/shoot that damn auction house that nobody wants and crashes that game over and over again) |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1067
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Posted - 2012.06.07 07:25:00 -
[169] - Quote
Mike Whiite wrote:I used to play Diablo 3, Then I got an Error in the knee
(thank you Blizzard for making me apreaciate CCP more, Showing me how much of a feat it is to run a server that doesn't throw you out 3 out of 7 times, maybe all Diably 3 players can go bash/shoot that damn auction house that nobody wants and crashes that game over and over again)
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=526
CCP still holds the crown my friend. I still love you CCP, just letting this guy know you are human too. Anyone have the fanfest vid of Hilmar and the other fat guy on the boot.ini thing. It was funny, so give the link here if not already done.
Bye!
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Lester Knight Chaykin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.06.07 07:28:00 -
[170] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you !
No you are not. The Cain is a lie. |
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Xuse Senna
Analog Folk SRS.
172
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Posted - 2012.06.07 08:38:00 -
[171] - Quote
Idiot. D3 |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope
56
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Posted - 2012.06.07 09:20:00 -
[172] - Quote
Acwron wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Acwron wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:OP is afraid of someone who isn't there. That's sad. Words of wisdom...Can I be your friend ? Can I follow you on twitter or book in the face ? Please, tell me you are not that stupid...If you are, you just don't know it therefore you should be happy. why don't you go rat somewhere else, you guys have like 10 decent ratting grounds, if the cloaker follows he aint afk AMIRITE? It's not about ratting or any other thing you do in your system. It's about you can't do nothing against. CCP said that every ship has a counter ship. Every tactic has a counter tactic. Counter afk cloaking !
There is a simple counter to afk cloaking. Not flying alone. Having a friend cloaked nearby to gank the guy if he uncloaks near you, etc.
The only reason you can't find a counter to afk cloaking is because you haven't looked.
When I lived in Stain, we had 3 guys in our main system that were always afk cloaked, except when they were not afk and were actively hunting us. It didn't stop us from farming the rats, etc, and every now and then one of them would catch one of our less aware members, and every now and then one of us would catch them. That's what EVE is about.
What I learned from that situation was to never fly alone unless my ship was capable of dealing with whatever they brought and have at least a fair chance at taking one of them down with me if it came to projectiles flying. I also learned the art of teamwork and the sneaky gank. I also fell in love with Stealth Bombers XD.
~Z
I won't say you are stupid, but you're not exactly on the Zombie menu either. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.06.07 12:36:00 -
[173] - Quote
I'll make it short cos it seems not everyone has the patience or time to read how many pages a thread has :
Someone afk in my system does not bother me at all. I said it in the very first post "some of us can't play". I can. And I will. The point is : You can't counter cloaking. Imagine you're in your home and you know someone's there and you can't find him. He will be there as long as he wants, you are not gonna find him. I checked the closet, I looked under the bed as well. Nothing. If Eve is real, get it closer to reality then.
It's your system, you should have advantage over your enemies. You should be able to decloak him with a POS module as I said before. I'd allow to set guns on the gates as well, it's my system, wtf, I place weapons anywhere I want !
And Diablo is fun, doesn't require thinking, just abit of kiting. And a good mouse. Maybe a couple more for backup. And don't forget to lower the volume when one of your cats is sleeping next to the speakers. I did forget. She's still acting weird. Hope she'll be fine soon. |
RAP ACTION HERO
55
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:30:00 -
[174] - Quote
Acwron wrote:I'll make it short cos it seems not everyone has the patience or time to read how many pages a thread has :
Someone afk in my system does not bother me at all. I said it in the very first post "some of us can't play". I can. And I will. The point is : You can't counter cloaking. Imagine you're in your home and you know someone's there and you can't find him. He will be there as long as he wants, you are not gonna find him. I checked the closet, I looked under the bed as well. Nothing. If Eve is real, get it closer to reality then.
It's your system, you should have advantage over your enemies. You should be able to decloak him with a POS module as I said before. I'd allow to set guns on the gates as well, it's my system, wtf, I place weapons anywhere I want !
And Diablo is fun, doesn't require thinking, just abit of kiting. And a good mouse. Maybe a couple more for backup. And don't forget to lower the volume when one of your cats is sleeping next to the speakers. I did forget. She's still acting weird. Hope she'll be fine soon. still sound whiney |
Yuriko Deathstrike
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:18:00 -
[175] - Quote
I started playing EVE a little over a month ago then i got D3 when it released. A week ago i was playing my witch doctor when i got bored and logged out. And this is no joke, i logged on to EVE, hopped on my mining toon and started mining Veldspar for about 3 hours.
Its the same reason i stopped playing SWTOR and LOTRO...after all those years of playing D2 back in the day, and several years of WoW it all felt the same. Star Trek Online was actually pretty cool because it had different gameplay. But what led me away from STO was the mass amounts of idiots, pay to win, lots of downtimes and of course EVE. If SWG hadnt died i would still be playing that too, CU (which i wasnt there for) or NGE doesnt matter to me. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1189
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:21:00 -
[176] - Quote
Yuriko Deathstrike wrote:Star Trek Online was actually pretty cool because it had different gameplay. But what led me away from STO was the mass amounts of idiots, pay to win STO was pay to win?
Pity, I can remember quite looking forward to that when I first heard of it. Then I heard it was F2P and a bit crap, so I stayed away. I never realised they went pay to win though, I assumed they were trying to support it with merchandise, vanity items and advertising or some such nonsense.
It would have been nice to have another (decent) space ship MMO, even a non-sandbox one. Just for a change.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Kerensky White
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:41:00 -
[177] - Quote
Acwron wrote:I'll make it short cos it seems not everyone has the patience or time to read how many pages a thread has :
Someone afk in my system does not bother me at all. I said it in the very first post "some of us can't play". I can. And I will.
Except you're not, you said it's made you play Diablo III instead. So clearly you do actually have a problem with it yourself, in spite of all your blustering. The only people who an afk cloaker should truly effect are those who don't pay attention, who afk rat, who run fits fragile to pvp without backup, in short, those who deserve to lose their ship.
I've only ever lost one ratting ship to a gank, and it was my own fault. If I lose another, it's my own fault. I'm fine with this.
By the way, you do have every reason to fear for your supercaps.
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Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
67
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:49:00 -
[178] - Quote
You nullbears are funny people. Move to wormhole space, so it won't be an issue. Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter |
Yuriko Deathstrike
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.08 04:51:00 -
[179] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Yuriko Deathstrike wrote:Star Trek Online was actually pretty cool because it had different gameplay. But what led me away from STO was the mass amounts of idiots, pay to win STO was pay to win? Pity, I can remember quite looking forward to that when I first heard of it. Then I heard it was F2P and a bit crap, so I stayed away. I never realised they went pay to win though, I assumed they were trying to support it with merchandise, vanity items and advertising or some such nonsense. It would have been nice to have another (decent) space ship MMO, even a non-sandbox one. Just for a change.
I might be getting the terms mixed up, but i think its micro transactions.
You can farm for dilithium but it takes a long time to do it. You can also buy c-points with real money, and buy dilithium to buy 'epic' quality gear. Or you can use the c-points in their store to unlock ships, buy bridge/duty officers (gives you abilities and buffs), and buy a lot of other fluff items. |
Shig Tawny
Ceptacemia Vera Cruz Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:12:00 -
[180] - Quote
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13648972 someone is mad!! fyi: me and my corp are all USA /EURO and i am #4 on eve kill solo thx to the fun in delve!
the cloaky campers that come to my systems die and a rate of 2/3 just enetering. and guess what! I dont cry about people using cloaks and cynos! its not black magic. There plenty of other ways to combat this type of gameplay |
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Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
164
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:39:00 -
[181] - Quote
There was talk of a Decloaking Ship that would make cloaking into a submarine game.. I would love that new feature if it ever comes real who knows.
The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Effect One
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
21
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Posted - 2012.06.25 07:53:00 -
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You could, y'know, do stuff as a group instead of wondering around killing rats in an NPC fit.
Or, y'know, rat in a PvP fit and call backup when he decloaks on you? |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:01:00 -
[183] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Hold on Deckard Cain, I'm gonna save you ! you clearly can't like it that much if you haven't got past act 1.
deckard dies.
oh yeah, and spoiler! |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:58:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CLOAKERS CAN DISRUPT THE WHOLE THING AND YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO THEM COS GUESS WHAT ? THEY ARE CLOAKED ! AFK OR NOT ! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ? OFC NOT !. How do they stop you mining or ratting, whilst afk?
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
RAP ACTION HERO
102
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Posted - 2012.06.25 09:03:00 -
[185] - Quote
HEY VERA CRUZ |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.06.25 09:05:00 -
[186] - Quote
Removing you name from local when you're cloaked isn't too unreasonable. |
Zalifer Esepula
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
17
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:29:00 -
[187] - Quote
These tears are so old at this stage. More new tears please. |
Xpaulusx
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:11:00 -
[188] - Quote
Diablo 3............great if your like 14 years old |
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