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XFreedomX
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Posted - 2009.09.08 19:52:00 -
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I thing I noticed was the lack of Tech 1 cruiser this year. Definitely by design from CCP's point of view. Wonder what people think the effects are. For my part, seems frig survive alot longer and did we even see one griffin this year?
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.08 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: XFreedomX I thing I noticed was the lack of Tech 1 cruiser this year. Definitely by design from CCP's point of view. Wonder what people think the effects are. For my part, seems frig survive alot longer and did we even see one griffin this year?
As they cost the same points as a Tier 1 battlecruiser unless you have a very specialised role in mind (say a blackbird because you don't have enough points for a rook) there isn't a compelling reason to field them.
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Pmut
Pronger Physics Research Dept.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: TeaDaze
Originally by: XFreedomX I thing I noticed was the lack of Tech 1 cruiser this year. Definitely by design from CCP's point of view. Wonder what people think the effects are. For my part, seems frig survive alot longer and did we even see one griffin this year?
As they cost the same points as a Tier 1 battlecruiser unless you have a very specialised role in mind (say a blackbird because you don't have enough points for a rook) there isn't a compelling reason to field them.
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Minigin
tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Minigin on 08/09/2009 23:03:14 good? now if only we would stop seeing t1 bcs... . MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
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Morvyn
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.09.09 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin Edited by: Minigin on 08/09/2009 23:03:14 good? now if only we would stop seeing t1 bcs...
BUT FEROX IS SO AWESUM...!
I like to fit lasers on them for maximum win.
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: TeaDaze
As they cost the same points as a Tier 1 battlecruiser unless you have a very specialised role in mind (say a blackbird because you don't have enough points for a rook) there isn't a compelling reason to field them.
Yep. Only an idiot would field a T1 cruiser as it stands now. But I don't get it. WHY set up the points system to GUARANTEE that not a single T1 cruiser will be fielded?? If they're so afraid of cruiser swarms (which have been arguably the most entertaining thing to watch so far in any alliance tournament), why not just add "no more than 4 ships of the same class" or something to the 2 of same ship rule?
No cruisers is just **** imo. No ruppies? No raxes? And instead we get twice as many BC's as in the last tourney. Which happen to be the most boring ship class to watch: they don't sit on peoples faces like a BS, don't do the unexpected, risky and cheeky like a T1 cruiser.
Alter the point costs to allow cruisers back in, I say. Anyone with me on this?
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Discipline
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.09 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vrikshaka
Originally by: TeaDaze
As they cost the same points as a Tier 1 battlecruiser unless you have a very specialised role in mind (say a blackbird because you don't have enough points for a rook) there isn't a compelling reason to field them.
Yep. Only an idiot would field a T1 cruiser as it stands now. But I don't get it. WHY set up the points system to GUARANTEE that not a single T1 cruiser will be fielded?? If they're so afraid of cruiser swarms (which have been arguably the most entertaining thing to watch so far in any alliance tournament), why not just add "no more than 4 ships of the same class" or something to the 2 of same ship rule?
No cruisers is just **** imo. No ruppies? No raxes? And instead we get twice as many BC's as in the last tourney. Which happen to be the most boring ship class to watch: they don't sit on peoples faces like a BS, don't do the unexpected, risky and cheeky like a T1 cruiser.
Alter the point costs to allow cruisers back in, I say. Anyone with me on this?
Yeah I'm with you, but its too late for this year, but next year, yeah there should be a point difference between a cruiser and a battlecruiser.
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Stickletodd
Amarr Industrial Mining and Construction
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Posted - 2009.09.09 14:57:00 -
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I miss Omens...but I can understand why they, and other Tech 1 cruisers, are not there. The emphasis is on getting as much DPS on the other team as fast you you possibly can. Unless the tactics change, or they are forced to change, there is no real need for cruisers. It all boils down to fast frigates, extreme dps, and ecm. Change the goals of the scrim, and the ships will change.
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.10 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Discipline Yeah I'm with you, but its too late for this year, but next year, yeah there should be a point difference between a cruiser and a battlecruiser.
Omg theres hope after all Yeah for next tournament at least, changing the rules mid-tourney would be a bit rash.
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Nol Agnot
Nightwatch Immortal
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:49:00 -
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What's wrong with giving Destroyers a 1 point value to fill out a last point/slot with? It's not like they're not a huge sig blimp anyways and will go down hard if as much as looked at.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.09.11 09:12:00 -
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It is a shame for sure. Some of the best fights last year were the Rupture/Thorax gangs that ripped apart all comers. Not to mention cruisers being much more fun to fly than BCs
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Ran Khanon
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Posted - 2009.09.12 12:42:00 -
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Indeed. Crazy that cruisers and bc's cost the same amount of points, really. They are not even close to being in the same league. A panda bear and a grizzly bear aren't in the same ballpark either just because both happen to end with 'bear' :D
Somewhere between a third and a half of the cost would be realistic in my mind.
That also might ensure that the reporters don't need to ***** on drakes so often :P
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Plague Black
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.09.12 23:57:00 -
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Brutix >> any T1 cruiser. Why on Earth would you fly a cruiser then?
What I love more is that Sabre = Bantam according to CCP standards or Condor > Thrasher
It only adds to fun I say.
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Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.13 08:37:00 -
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Called this pre-tourney. ;_;
"But the mobility of a T1 cruiser will make them viable picks!"
Haha, yeah right... _________________________
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