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NickyYo
StarHug
157
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:32:00 -
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Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Gitanmaxx
Viziam Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:34:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
or the 360 which has 3 times the player base, and isn't planned to be replaced by a new system for a few more cycles. |
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
163
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:36:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
Such is CCP's confidence that Laurino readily promised an Eve-like lifespan for Dust 514. "Our whole plan for the game, our whole roadmap, extends out over five years now," he said.
That suggests Dust 514 will be able to transition from PlayStation 3 to PlayStation 4. Will it?
"A very astute question," shuffled Laurino, "but one that I can not comment on today. But, obviously, given the statement I just made, you know, that's a very interesting topic."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-08-sony-removed-psn-barriers-for-free-to-play-mmo-dust-514 |
Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
249
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:38:00 -
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I didn't even know the ps4 was coming out, but if the price was anything like the original you can guarantee I won't be picking one up for the first few years. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7668
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:40:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? NickyYo, you do know that Christmas 2013 isn't 6 months away, right? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Grandpa Bill
Republic University Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:40:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
I agree, even this old man can see the logic in that. Its obvious once the Nintendo Playbox 4 comes out the previous one will be a dead system, everyones gonna throw them in the trash. Every game thats commin out for it from now till trash day is a waste of time obviously. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
103
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:44:00 -
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ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it it |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
134
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:48:00 -
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Ten Bulls wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? Such is CCP's confidence that Laurino readily promised an Eve-like lifespan for Dust 514. "Our whole plan for the game, our whole roadmap, extends out over five years now," he said. That suggests Dust 514 will be able to transition from PlayStation 3 to PlayStation 4. Will it? "A very astute question," shuffled Laurino, "but one that I can not comment on today. But, obviously, given the statement I just made, you know, that's a very interesting topic." http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-08-sony-removed-psn-barriers-for-free-to-play-mmo-dust-514
From the news on the PS4 - it'll run PS3 stuff -- and more.
Also from news on the PS4 - the dev kits went out some months ago but who got what would be covered under NDAs - meaning CCP couldn't talk about such things.
Being as CCP worked out its agreements with Sony long after the PS4 was being announced as in development, you can bet they were on the development kit receiving list but don't expect them to violate NDA's by saying so without permission. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
270
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:49:00 -
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CCP went with Sony because Sony would allow the communication between databases - Eve and Dust. Xbox would not allow this. That was the story when the decision was made. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:53:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
AS much as I don't like consoles and stuff alike I have to say it: simple don't buy it (new ps4) or don't play it (dust)
Everything big companies do is to make you buy even when you don't need, if you do it it's your choice not theirs. Why would you buy something you don't need or outdated ?
I'm liking fps games, Dust is not for PC then I will not play it. I'm the only one who decides what's good for me or not, not some random company for who I'm just a random milky cow like every other random company. brb |
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Velicitia
Open Designs
978
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:01:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? NickyYo, you do know that Christmas 2013 isn't 6 months away, right?
:18 months:
(was wondering when I'd get to pull that out again... thanks Tippia) |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2009
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:06:00 -
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Since they've already stated they will simply release a version compatible with the PS 4 when it comes out, I'm not overly worried. You'll be able to play from either a PS3 or a PS4 for quite some time.
Nice troll though. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
TigerXtrm
Cadre Assault Force Initiative Mercenaries
30
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:08:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
You're working on the assumption that Dust won't be playable on a PS4. That's kind of a stupid assumption, given that CCP has a 10 year roadmap for Dust, don't you think? |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
481
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:12:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Nice troll though. Does trolling now mean a complete and utter failure and not a marginally clever ruse? Internet lingo moves so fast. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
186
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:14:00 -
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If DUST is a failure it will drag EVE down with it.
You should (finally) cancel your subscription in anticipation. |
Kyle Yanowski
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
53
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:18:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
*face palm* |
Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
85
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:21:00 -
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Grandpa Bill wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? I agree, even this old man can see the logic in that. Its obvious once the Nintendo Playbox 4 comes out the previous one will be a dead system, everyones gonna throw them in the trash. Every game thats commin out for it from now till trash day is a waste of time obviously.
even though i own a ps3, i still own AND PLAY my ps2. in fact, i play my ps2 at least 3-4 times a week.
i may trade in my ps3 towards the purchase of a ps4 since ps4 is supposed to be backwards compatible with ps3 games. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
338
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:23:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
What ever your taking, stop it, for the love of god and all that's holy, for Skippy, Flipper, the littlest Hobo, for all the puppies and kittens in the world, just stop it.
Tal
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Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
238
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:32:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
You made this post AFTER the Sony E3 press conference and you still think this is true?
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
255
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:36:00 -
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NickyYo, shitposting everyday |
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
137
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:38:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
Why not prepare it for PC where they are guaranteed large purchases?
You do know that PC is here now, right? Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1245
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:43:00 -
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I hope he doesn't find out there are micro-transactions in Dust. Now that we have seen his grasp of the tech-scene, I'd hate to find out how much he knows about economics. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
213
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:47:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
I thought you rage quit weeks ago?
On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
c4 t
Push Pharmaceuticals Push Interstellar Network
47
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:55:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
Literally zero people care about your opinion(not even your mother). Please refrain from posting it henceforth.
Jake Warbird wrote:I hope he doesn't find out there are micro-transactions in Dust. Now that we have seen his grasp of the tech-scene, I'd hate to find out how much he knows about economics.
The game is F2P. Of course there are going to be microtransactions you crazy. What we have to see is how CCP does it. Hurrrrrr |
Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative
9
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? NickyYo, you do know that Christmas 2013 isn't 6 months away, right? Judging by his avatar, he probably has a hard time with basic math. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:02:00 -
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c4 t wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? Literally zero people care about your opinion(not even your mother). Please refrain from posting it henceforth. Jake Warbird wrote:I hope he doesn't find out there are micro-transactions in Dust. Now that we have seen his grasp of the tech-scene, I'd hate to find out how much he knows about economics. The game is F2P. Of course there are going to be microtransactions you crazy. What we have to see is how CCP does it. Hurrrrrr
PLEX brb |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2010
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:03:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Nice troll though. Does trolling now mean a complete and utter failure and not a marginally clever ruse? Internet lingo moves so fast. It does when a person is trying to be uncharacteristically nice. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:04:00 -
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Grandpa Bill wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? I agree, even this old man can see the logic in that. Its obvious once the Nintendo Playbox 4 comes out the previous one will be a dead system, everyones gonna throw them in the trash. Every game thats commin out for it from now till trash day is a waste of time obviously.
Elderly posting here. |
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries SRS.
197
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:36:00 -
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I too think Dust will basically be a failure for the following reasons:
1: There are a ton of FPS's, There are a ton of Sci-fi FPS's 2: Non-Eve players aren't likely to care about Dust more-so than other FPS releases. 3: Eve players are mostly PC gamer's 4: If CCP is going for something novel / more involved / hardcore with Dust then that FPS audience is also mostly on PC 5: If they aren't going for that, then its not going to have much to stand on over other FPS's, see #1 6: My confidence in CCP to make an FPS that can actually compete on technical or gameplay grounds with others out there is pretty limited. It's not like there isn't some serious investment in FPS's.
Maybe I'm wrong, but we will see. Hopefully it will be successful enough to at least keep the company solvent, and Eve safe.
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D3F4ULT
81
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:37:00 -
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Uninformed people posting dumb threads. Nothing new in GD.
DUST 514 is being digitally distributed and will follow along side SONYs new generation of consoles. Theres been a handful of the same exact misleading posts you yourself posted, concluding youre the most annoying OP on the forums. Raging about CCP while paying them and claiming you unsubbed your main +23 alt accounts, thats true irony. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
157
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:22:00 -
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If Dust fails, it will most likely be due to CCP's need to roll before they bugtest. If it starts out with as many bugs as EVE, console players will be breaking their remotes and finding something else to play.
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
339
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:26:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:I hope he doesn't find out there are micro-transactions in Dust. Now that we have seen his grasp of the tech-scene, I'd hate to find out how much he knows about economics.
He's a Banker in the city
Tal
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Lustralis
Tiny Holdings
26
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:27:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:If Dust fails, it will most likely be due to CCP's need to roll before they bugtest. If it starts out with as many bugs as EVE, console players will be breaking their remotes and finding something else to play.
This is true actually. Only the hardcore nutters stuck with Eve through beta and after release. All 6.5K of us :). |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
662
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:30:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Nice troll though. Does trolling now mean a complete and utter failure and not a marginally clever ruse? Internet lingo moves so fast.
hear hear! - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Roisin Saoirse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:34:00 -
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Gitanmaxx wrote:or the 360 which has 3 times the player base, and isn't planned to be replaced by a new system for a few more cycles. I always thought a console-based EVE fps would be a terrible idea and hoped it would flop really badly in the first month.
But as soon as MS shot down the idea of DUST on the XBox, I suddenly developed the overwhelming hope that the game would be an awesome success. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1246
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:54:00 -
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c4 t wrote: The game is F2P. Of course there are going to be microtransactions you crazy. What we have to see is how CCP does it. Hurrrrrr
Sigh... Doesn't anyone get sarcasm anymore? CCP will do great at it cause most of the other people who involve micro transactions are making bank. Take a deep breath and try re-read what I wrote. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
321
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:04:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
Oh Nicky, Nicky, Nicky.
I'm quitting, no I'm not, I'm quitting, no I'm not, I'm quitting, no I'm not.
First it was PLEX prices, now DUST514. For a boy who was supposed to be quitting, you certainly seem to have a pole up your rectum when it comes to what CCP do with their business don't you? Your troll posting has become ludicrously poor, to the point where I am forced to wonder just what substances you have been inhaling of late.
PS4 comes out in 18 months, not 6. DUST will be compatible with PS3 and PS4, updates will be issued for free unless CCP decide to just recode for the PS4 instead and through it all, you will undoubtedly continue to post your inane tripe on these forums.
So what is next on the "NickyYo wants to whine about....." list? Perhaps the cost of petrol? Maybe it will be the average wait time for a caterpillar to turn in to a butterfly? Or maybe you will just vanish inside the event horizon of your own ineptitude and save us all the grief.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:14:00 -
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Man, there has been tons of discussions why Dust wonGÇÖt come out on either XBOX or PC and yet people still say **** like GÇ£I canGÇÖt understand why DUST isnGÇÖt gonna be on the XBOX, etc, etc, etcGÇ¥. Try doing some readingGǪ
D3F4ULT wrote:Uninformed people posting dumb threads. Nothing new in GD.
DUST 514 is being digitally distributed and will follow along side SONYs new generation of consoles. Theres been a handful of the same exact misleading posts you yourself posted, concluding youre the most annoying OP on the forums. Raging about CCP while paying them and claiming you unsubbed your main +23 alt accounts, thats true irony. I dunno about that. I think masternerdtwat is most annoying for now... |
Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
166
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:17:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
man, you need to htfu at least a bit. stop whining like a 13y old on every topic. do you have anything to say that has some sense in it? Ya i get you don't like CCP so either quit or adapt. Stop whining about them ffs. It won't change anything. |
Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
166
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:20:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? Oh Nicky, Nicky, Nicky. I'm quitting, no I'm not, I'm quitting, no I'm not, I'm quitting, no I'm not. First it was PLEX prices, now DUST514. For a boy who was supposed to be quitting, you certainly seem to have a pole up your rectum when it comes to what CCP do with their business don't you? Your troll posting has become ludicrously poor, to the point where I am forced to wonder just what substances you have been inhaling of late. PS4 comes out in 18 months, not 6. DUST will be compatible with PS3 and PS4, updates will be issued for free unless CCP decide to just recode for the PS4 instead and through it all, you will undoubtedly continue to post your inane tripe on these forums. So what is next on the "NickyYo wants to whine about....." list? Perhaps the cost of petrol? Maybe it will be the average wait time for a caterpillar to turn in to a butterfly? Or maybe you will just vanish inside the event horizon of your own ineptitude and save us all the grief.
You beat me to it mate.. His bitching is getting annoying now. Seems like every topic we see, there is a NickyYo whine post stating how bad CCP is and how he would magically make it right if he was the CEO for a day or something. |
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Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
15
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:21:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Man, there has been tons of discussions why Dust wonGÇÖt come out on either XBOX or PC and yet people still say **** like GÇ£I canGÇÖt understand why DUST isnGÇÖt gonna be on the XBOX, etc, etc, etcGÇ¥. Try doing some readingGǪ
Mouse and keyboard controls are already supported in the PS 3 version of the title. If the PS 3 version is successful, a PC version might also come out. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Gogela
Direct Action LLC.
802
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:24:00 -
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Kaanchana wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? man, you need to htfu at least a bit. stop whining like a 13y old on every topic. do you have anything to say that has some sense in it? Ya i get you don't like CCP so either quit or adapt. Stop whining about them ffs. It won't change anything. I see you've discounted the possibility that he is 13.
He probably is... you're feeding the troll, dude.
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Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
166
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:31:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Kaanchana wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? man, you need to htfu at least a bit. stop whining like a 13y old on every topic. do you have anything to say that has some sense in it? Ya i get you don't like CCP so either quit or adapt. Stop whining about them ffs. It won't change anything. I see you've discounted the possibility that he is 13. He probably is... you're feeding the troll, dude.
I suppose you are right mate. He certainly has the IQ of one.. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
15
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:43:00 -
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The average 13-year-old has the same IQ as the average 33-year-old. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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NickyYo
StarHug
157
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:46:00 -
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Ah the trolls and idiots post in my sensible well structured thread.
Well people and especially Tippia, stop pulling dates out of your ass the PlayStation 4 will be released late 2012 or possible early 2013 that is about 6 months.
Lets just hope the world doesn't end in December 2012.. I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
NickyYo
StarHug
157
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:49:00 -
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And also, to all you whiners, whining about my thread..
You have a choice not to read my threads, its not as if i post in any other threads is it.
You have a choice, stop crying or GTFO. I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7676
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:53:00 -
[47] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Well people, stop pulling dates out of your ass Yes, you really should stop doing that.
The rest of us can at least source our claims. You, on the other hand, are a clueless git.
It's still 18 months, by the way. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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ian papabear
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
5
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:54:00 -
[48] - Quote
its called testing the waters. no offense to ccp but they arent activision or like origin where they can afford to spend millions on a project and have it fail and/or have it released on every console. and im pretty sure that ps4 will be like ps2 and ps3 where can you play previous versions of games on the updated console. If dust 514 succeeds and goes above and beyond their expectations they will branch out to other consoles and martket the game to a worldwide audience. Go to college and and get yourself educated on the anatomy of business then maybe you might understand what ccp is doing here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FJBdQUAO4 |
NickyYo
StarHug
161
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:59:00 -
[49] - Quote
Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:Well people, stop pulling dates out of your ass Yes, you really should stop doing that. The rest of us can at least source our claims. You, on the other hand, are a clueless git. It's still 18 months, by the way.
Noob, you pick a blog for your source and you get your date from this quote "and it's rumored to be coming in late 2013."
Your just as bad as the rest of the posters http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2012/04/12/live-blog-new-sony-ceo-kazuo-hirai/#entry_9 I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:01:00 -
[50] - Quote
While I agree that DUST 514 is pretty much doomed (the way it is planned now), to me this is nothing shocking or even CCP-specific.
Look, every so often - which is to say VERY often - some developer does something stupid. Look at Bioware and SWTOR. In early Summer beta, beta testers have said that the design is flawed at the core and that the game will be dead 3 months past release. Fanboys said "no wai!", and developers agreed. We all know how that release played out, don't we?
EVE has its own history of this nonsense, namely Incarna. CCP was told, repeatedly, that it wouldn't fly the way it was. They didn't listen, and once again we all know what happened last summer.
And this sad litany of poor decisions goes far, far back into the distant past.
Bottom line? Someone in a position of power somewhere suddenly decided that, contrary to all available evidence, doing something like this is a good idea. He is being told that this is a mistake, but he either just doesn't know about it, doesn't care, or believes everyone (including prospective customers of the upcoming product) is wrong. At this point, barring some miracle, the product is already doomed before it even sees the light of day.
Now, I admit that there have been miracle recoveries. Very few, and very far apart, and usually not in MMO genre. But they have happened. And it can happen in DUST. Even just a handful of very talented and passionate developers can turn an otherwise hopeless product into something borderline enjoyable. It just remains to be seen if it'll work this time.
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
220
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:05:00 -
[51] - Quote
what's dust ###? EGD: If you jettison what's in your brain, at least expect can flipping. |
trite boon
Solar Revenue Service F0RCEFUL ENTRY
7
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:11:00 -
[52] - Quote
Posting in a new form of EVE/DUST is dying thread |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7678
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:15:00 -
[53] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:you pick a blog for your source No. Read it again. Take note of the URL. Also note the page header.
GǪoh, and it's still 18 months, and it's still far better sourced than your clueless asspull. Idiot. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NickyYo
StarHug
161
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:you pick a blog for your source No. Read it again. Take note of the URL. Also note the page header. GǪoh, and it's still 18 months, and it's still far better sourced than your clueless asspull. Idiot.
LOL nice edit with the source..
It still doesn't say 18 months Tippia, that is early 2013 m8.
And direct attacks are not allowed, i got a warning for calling somone an idiot.. I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7678
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:23:00 -
[55] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Nope i still don't see it Get some glasses then, idiot.
Read what's on top of the page. See the name of the site? How about you use the links already provided? How about you provide the slightest shred of evidence to support your nonsense?
It's still 18 months, by the way. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NickyYo
StarHug
161
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:24:00 -
[56] - Quote
Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:Nope i still don't see it Get some glasses then, idiot. Read what's on top of the page. See the name of the site? How about you use the links already provided? How about you provide the slightest shred of evidence to support your nonsense? It's still 18 months, by the way.
Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart, i know how you work you are trying your hardest to fish the links out of me, i am aware of this haha. I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7678
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:27:00 -
[57] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart Because you made the claim. The onus is on you to prove it's not nonsense.
Quote:Tryinhg doing a Google serach and read the first 2 pages. Ok. They're all saying that a) there is no PS4 announcement for E3 2012 (so it won't be released in 2012 because then they'd be on the hype train by now), and b) it'll most likely be out of Christmas 2013 (assuming that's not just in Japan, in which case we're talking 2014 for world release and 2015 until it picks up numbers and starts getting a worth-while game libraryGǪ oh, and 2017GÇô2018 until PS3 starts reaching EOL ).
GǪand you still have no sources for your nonsense, so it's still 18 months of course. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NickyYo
StarHug
161
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:29:00 -
[58] - Quote
Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart Because you made the claim. The onus is on you to prove it's not nonsense. Quote:Tryinhg doing a Google serach and read the first 2 pages. Ok. They're all saying that a) there is no PS4 announcement for E3 2012 (so it won't be released in 2012 because then they'd be on the hype train by now), and b) it'll most likely be out of Christmas 2013 (assuming that's not just in Japan, in which case we're talking 2014 for world release and 2015 until it picks up numbers and starts getting a worth-while game library). GǪand you still have no sources for your nonsense, so it's still 18 months of course.
But it's not 18 months because you jsut said it might be in 2015, lets face it you don't really know do you? And i will admit it i don't have a precise day but im 80% sure its out in 6-9 months, hense i didn't post a source.
How about you stop derailing my thread now yes? I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7678
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:29:00 -
[59] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:But it's nto 18 months because you jsut said it might be in 2015 Nope.
Quote:And i will admit it i don't have a precise day but im 80% sure its out in 6-9 months. You also have nothing to support your nonsense, so it's still 18 months. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
326
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:30:00 -
[60] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Tippia wrote:NickyYo wrote:Nope i still don't see it Get some glasses then, idiot. Read what's on top of the page. See the name of the site? How about you use the links already provided? How about you provide the slightest shred of evidence to support your nonsense? It's still 18 months, by the way. Why should i provide links for you to try a pick a apart, i know how you work you are trying your hardest to fish the links out of me, i am aware of this haha. Try doing a Google search and read the first 2 pages, and not use a tabloid as a source..
Since you are clearly an idiot of gigantic proportions, let me spell it out for you.
"Sony says it will target an operating profit margin of 8% in its videogame segment by March 31, 2015. This is interesting since a new game console (PlayStation 4) will probably cause losses, and it's rumored to be coming in late 2013."
That's entry #9, the one you linked, from the Sony website. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
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Cpt Roghie
13
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:43:00 -
[61] - Quote
btw, its still 18 months Zzzzzzzz.
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Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
88
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:46:00 -
[62] - Quote
Kiteo Hatto wrote:ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it it
PS3 games will not work on PS4 Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system
EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
327
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:51:00 -
[63] - Quote
Twulf wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it it PS3 games will not work on PS4 Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more.
That has not been confirmed, so stop trying to appear clever. CCP and Sony have both already said that IF it is decided that PS3 games will not work on a PS4, then updates will be made to the game in the form of a digital download. The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Xander Karsoth
Racketeer's
19
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
Planetside 2, Halo 4 Eta 2012/2013
Good luck Dust 514 |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
88
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:57:00 -
[65] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:Twulf wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it it PS3 games will not work on PS4 Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more. That has not been confirmed, so stop trying to appear clever. CCP and Sony have both already said that IF it is decided that PS3 games will not work on a PS4, then updates will be made to the game in the form of a digital download. The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems.
Did not say they would not release the game for PS4 but it PS3 games wil not work on PS4, that is what they and MS and EA have been talking about for the last few months.
It is not set in stone but lets be real, if MS, Sony and EA see they can make more money then we know what they are going to do. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7681
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:59:00 -
[66] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems. GǪnot to mention that it's based on UnrealEngine, and considering what's powering a huge number of the hit titles on PS3, it's not hard to guess which company will have very early access to the the hardware to start work on something else with a GÇ£4GÇÖ at the end.
Xander Karsoth wrote:Planetside 2, Halo 4 Eta 2012/2013
Good luck Dust 514 PS2 GÇö different platform. Halo 4 GÇö different genre and different platform.
It's still in good shape. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
641
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:00:00 -
[67] - Quote
There are a few reasons why Dust will probably fail. The fact that its a downloadable game that can be easily converted to the next gen console is not one of them. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
327
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
Twulf wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Twulf wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:ps4 will have very few new games when it comes out and not like the ps3 ones won't work it it PS3 games will not work on PS4 Xbox360 games will not work on the next Xbox system EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped. This has been a big story for a few months now. Should get out more. That has not been confirmed, so stop trying to appear clever. CCP and Sony have both already said that IF it is decided that PS3 games will not work on a PS4, then updates will be made to the game in the form of a digital download. The other important point to note is that CCP was in talks with Sony long before development work began on the PS4, so they will have had access to the development kit for the new hardware and will have been able to construct DUST to work on both systems. Did not say they would not release the game for PS4 but it PS3 games wil not work on PS4, that is what they and MS and EA have been talking about for the last few months.
And as I pointed out, this has still not been decided upon. The ramifications of that course of action would have a massive detrimental effect on all three sectors of the gaming industry; Publishers, Retailers and End Users. It is those three groups that essentially control what the console manufacturers do.
I suspect that despite all the hype and talk, nothing will change from the way things are now, and we will just see more and more games switching to digital downloads only, especially as worldwide average internet speeds continue to rise. The single most important aspect in this industry is the end user. If they are not happy then the whole house of cards collapses, and that is not something Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or any of the major publishing houses can afford. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Campl3r Athonille
Bluestar Enterprises The Craftsmen
2
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:11:00 -
[69] - Quote
yo,PC |
Gitanmaxx
Viziam Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
Ban Bindy wrote:CCP went with Sony because Sony would allow the communication between databases - Eve and Dust. Xbox would not allow this. That was the story when the decision was made.
That sounds like microsuck....too bad because the xbox would have been much better of a choice. |
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:37:00 -
[71] - Quote
Twulf wrote:EA, Sony and Microsoft are trying to kill the used game market as they do not get any money from the used game market and there for it must be stopped.
Witch, if it ever happens, is perfectly normal since those consoles are more like expensive PC's and can do almost to same thing. Someone shot himself in the foot. brb |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
374
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:56:00 -
[72] - Quote
I wish I could call you a troll, but doing so would disgrace the name of the recently deceased Eduard Khil
May you rest in peace Mr. Khil. |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
You know how some people are one way on the forums and another way in game? I saw the OP aruging with pvpers in hi the other night. Sadly he's the same in game. All I hear is goons this and goons that, it's like you people are the villiagers from goons village. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
629
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:11:00 -
[74] - Quote
NickyYo is as bad at posting as he is at being a CEO. |
NickyYo
StarHug
161
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:27:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote: That's entry #9, the one you linked, from the Sony website.
Talking of idiots, the site isn't even a Sony site it is a news website blog... I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7691
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:38:00 -
[76] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Talking of idiots Yes, we noticed you're back.
Quote:the site isn't even a Sony site it is a news website blog... Did you happen to notice which news site it was and what the liveblog was reporting on?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
167
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:26:00 -
[77] - Quote
If he puts as much as thinking in writing posts as he did for his avatar then we shouldn't be surprised i suppose.. |
Shepard Book
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:36:00 -
[78] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
Wanna bet? I believe CCP has already said months ago it is compatible with upgrading to the next system. |
ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
59
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:37:00 -
[79] - Quote
Gitanmaxx wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:CCP went with Sony because Sony would allow the communication between databases - Eve and Dust. Xbox would not allow this. That was the story when the decision was made. That sounds like microsuck....too bad because the xbox would have been much better of a choice. Actually it wouldn-¦t.
First because the Microsoft network isn-¦t free and 2nd because then it REALLY would have to directly compete with the FPS-MMOish new HALO 4. |
Selinate
947
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Posted - 2012.06.05 23:46:00 -
[80] - Quote
Gilbaron wrote:NickyYo, shitposting erryday
FYP. |
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Molinator Agnon
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.06 00:04:00 -
[81] - Quote
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Nice troll though. Does trolling now mean a complete and utter failure and not a marginally clever ruse? Internet lingo moves so fast. "trolling" is now used as a defensive accusation whenever you encounter someone who has a differing opinion.
"dude, your mom told you to get 2% milk, not whole milk"
"QUIT TROLLING ME BRO, I'M GETTING WHOLE MILK" |
Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
167
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Posted - 2012.06.11 02:17:00 -
[82] - Quote
Molinator Agnon wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Nice troll though. Does trolling now mean a complete and utter failure and not a marginally clever ruse? Internet lingo moves so fast. "trolling" is now used as a defensive accusation whenever you encounter someone who has a differing opinion. "dude, your mom told you to get 2% milk, not whole milk" "QUIT TROLLING ME BRO, I'M GETTING WHOLE MILK"
Not at all.
While what you say may define a small group, actual trolling needs talent and IQ to pull off. What our beloved OP is doing is similar to standing naked in the street corner shouting at the top of his lungs that he is gonna stop drinking milk because it doesn't come in bacon flavour.
It might make everyone notice him and he might feel satisfied but in reality its idiotic and a bit sad. |
Russell Casey
One Ton
147
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Posted - 2012.06.11 02:42:00 -
[83] - Quote
IMO, CCP's banking on the Null-Lords telling their members to go buy a PS3 with multiple accounts just like EVE. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
189
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Posted - 2012.06.11 03:01:00 -
[84] - Quote
Dust already won. It's the first MMO to effectively merge a PC and a console MMO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
The Riddik
Dark Club
3
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Posted - 2012.06.11 03:55:00 -
[85] - Quote
the ps3 kicks ass over the old and dated xbox. it truely is an all in one entertainment systemm wirelessly connected to your network, and whatever is on it.
and dust will be compatible with ps4.
oh ya, kinect, whelp, not like im gonna be dancing the night away :), but hey you can make it work with the ps3, and in any case round xmas i think theyll release it for the pc.
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Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion
141
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Posted - 2012.06.11 04:07:00 -
[86] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? Oh my God, you're still frakking here? Unsub already!!!! |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2012.06.11 04:56:00 -
[87] - Quote
People say the dumbest **** on the internet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbLOokeC3VU The last of us. No it's not SW1313 that 99.9% of all the people on the face of the planet wont be able to run becuase it's going to require a $1000 video card in order render CGI quality gameplay graphics, but it still looks damn good for a game being made on a 5 year old system.
Yeah, the PS3 is so outdated and CCP should focus on making dust for a system that hasn't released yet, and won't release until sometime after dust. They should absolutely ignore the PS3 that's already out, in homes, and cost half what the PS4 is likely to cost.
Have they even talked about the PS4 at E3 yet? I haven't been able to find anything other then rumors about it yet.
We won't even get into the fact that it's a free to play game.
Star wars 1313 if you haven't seen it yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQyGu4EqZsU All gameplay footage. Frigging ********. I wish more developers would create games for hardware no one owns. Just seems like a really smart thing to do. |
Onyx Nyx
Perkone Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2012.06.11 06:37:00 -
[88] - Quote
What I wouldn't give to return NickyYo to his natural habit, USA. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
307
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Posted - 2012.06.11 07:42:00 -
[89] - Quote
Kaanchana wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? man, you need to htfu at least a bit. stop whining like a 13y old on every topic. do you have anything to say that has some sense in it? Ya i get you don't like CCP so either quit or adapt. Stop whining about them ffs. It won't change anything.
NickyYo is 13, so he is entitled to whine like a 13 year old. You want fries with that? |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.06.11 08:00:00 -
[90] - Quote
I only play PC titles. So if it is going to fail no big deal. I will never play it. |
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Domer Pyle
Northwest Industries International Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
4
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Posted - 2012.06.11 08:22:00 -
[91] - Quote
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:I only play PC titles. So if it is going to fail no big deal. I will never play it.
this. so much this. |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2012.06.11 11:10:00 -
[92] - Quote
Gitanmaxx wrote:NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right? or the 360 which has 3 times the player base, and isn't planned to be replaced by a new system for a few more cycles.
Say what?
Worldwide sales figures
Wii GÇô 95.85 million as of 31 March 2012 Xbox 360 GÇô 65.8 million as of 12 January 2012 PlayStation 3 GÇô 63.9 million as of 31 March 2012
United States sales figures
Wii GÇô 30 million as of 10 August 2010 Xbox 360 GÇô 18.6 million as of 31 December 2009 PlayStation 3 - nearly 12 million as of 14 April 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars
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saltrock0000
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2012.06.11 11:13:00 -
[93] - Quote
Ioci wrote:Dust already won. It's the first MMO to effectively merge a PC and a console MMO.
I know its not quite the same, but the original Halo was PC vs Console originaly. Untill the console analog stick jerkers cried that the mouse and keyboard was superiour.
Not the same but still the idea of cross platform gaming has been around for a while |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
276
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Posted - 2012.06.11 11:31:00 -
[94] - Quote
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:I only play PC titles. So if it is going to fail no big deal. I will never play it.
So, you do not care if it does fail, regardless?
The quantity of revenue spent on development of Dust and it's infrastructure does not concern you? Revenue that could have been re-invested back into New Eden. Revenue that cannot be recouped if Dust fails. Revenue that retrospectively may be revenue which was used against CCP, by CCP, in an attempt to keep Dust alive when it was doomed from the start?
You don't care about any of that?
The impact of Dust failing will be significant, and may even end CCP's ability to trade as an organisation, not before massive layoffs and lots of marketing expediture to promote the antithesis of that outward perception.
People who once had money, get into more debt by 'faking' the money they have; they still go to the exclusive golf club, still drive around in a fancy car (hired) and buy rounds for people so everyone knows they got cash...when they don't.
If Dust fails, I suspect CCP will not tell anyone and will say everything is going according to plan and that the quantity of people playing Dust is inline with expectations and blah-de-blah.
Even the figures for EVE have never been made public, and CCP will tell you the amount of accounts there are, but will not tell you the following:
a) How many PEOPLE have accounts b) How many accounts are 'active' within the last 30 days c) Average log in times, broken down by frequency of login d) Number of NEW subscribers per month e) Number of people cancelling within the trial period f) Marketing cost per new subscriber g) Development cost per new subscriber
In addition to this - accounts cannot be deleted by players...I wonder why. Does this mean that Hippo King is still classed as an account? What about perma-banned accounts? What about people who had an account, then were hired by CCP, and created another 'dev' account - is their old account still in the CCP figures for accounts? Even though it doesn't exist, or shouldn't, and should be deleted?
Y'see, CCP have these figures and we don't, so because we fly blind, we have to make assumptions about whether New Eden is in good hands and that our monthly expenditure into New Eden is not wasted, in that the investment of time and money will not disappear due to poor management.
In other words, if CCP make a huge boo-boo and screw up Dust, at what point do they walk away and go sit at the table with humble pie? A year? 2 years? After which time they would have 'kept up appearances' and pumped more dough into Dust...which again could have been money which could have been apportioned to New Eden/EVE.
All I know is that on a weekend there are siro 50K characters actively playing EVE, that's a small number; that's a knee-jerk number; that's a transitory number - it ain't no WoW number like 10 mill, is it? And yet...
CCP seem to think they are a global player...I think Dust will challenge that introspection.
So far all Dust has done is anger people for a few prime reasons:
1) Not on PC, the platform which EVE is on (kinda makes you wonder why they didn't release EVE for PS3 - apparently a PS3 can use a mouse and keyboard, and has TCP/IP...) 2) No one asked for it, but did ask for 'fighting in stations' as part of Ambulation.
Using my old analogy on this:
New Eden at one point felt like an exclusive club which we were proudly members of, but the owner (in true George Lucas style) decided the club could be better, and kept adding new things to the club. Like a pool table, juke box, poker table, Karaoke machine, comedy night...a 'second home' feel to it and over time, the new things which were added began to fail. The pool table was slanted, the music in the juke box is out of date now, no one uses the karaoke machine and the comedy nite has the lowest turn out all week.
The problem is that whilst the owner sees all the other clubs on Main Street with the funky neon signs and hundreds of attendees paying silly prices for silly drinks with silly names - the people in his club are happy and content to NOT be on main street.
We like it like that; we like being down a small side-street which doesn't attract the 'regular' crowds and are more than content that those people will walk straight past and not give it a second glance, and be drawn to the shiny purdy lights of main street.
But the owner ain't happy, so regardless of whether we like it or not, he is going to break down one of the walls of the club and link it into a new club which we cannot enter, and the people who go there cannot do likewise - yet we can both hear and see each other, for some reason. And he's gonna put a neon sign outside.
All we can surmise from this is that the owners do not care about its player-base and want more money.
They cannot get more money from EVE, because they hit an influx plateau (cost of getting a new subscriber became greater than cost of retaining new subscriber) and are running out of ways to add content, designed to retain/maintain existing subscription levels.
Therefore, the only way to get more money was to create a new game - when ironically they have a great game already with a dedicated userbase, willing to create spreadsheets on the game, make (extensive) guides, videos for Youtube, turn up to events, help out new players, write fiction and dedicate time to improving the cannon, artwork, design new ships, run alliances with thousands of players.
I'm sorry CCP, I really am truly and genuinely sorry, that this is NOT enough for you...and that your egotistical and materialistic needs outweigh your logical reasoning to such levels that you feel the need to risk everything.
If Dust does fail, you have yourself to blame and we will find another club.
AK
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Bossy Lady
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.11 11:57:00 -
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Yeah damb you CCP for trying to expand the EVE universe HOW COULD YOU BETRAY OUR TRUST LIKE THAT?
Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M. |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.11 11:57:00 -
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Nope I do not care about any of your issues. I like EVE but I am not dependant upon CCP for my entertainment. I do not like console games. But almost every game developer thinks they are gold. It is like build it and they will come. Heck you do not even have to have any game play really just some flashy graphics and a good marketing scheme and away you go.
Game play went out the window when mass marketing console games became the rage. I have never seen a console only game worth playing. But somehow they have a huge following. I kinda think CCP could screw it up totally and still make far more money with Dust than they do with EVE. That would upset me because then you know where they would put their time and effort and it would not be EVE.
Actually I think EVE is screwed either way. If Dust does good or bad EVE takes a hit either way. And EVE is all I care about. |
NickyYo
StarHug
175
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Posted - 2012.06.11 12:36:00 -
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DUST 514 will have Micro Transactions right? If so that will NOT work on console..
Considering nearly all the player base who play FPS on console are kiddys, i really doubt they will have a credit card to pay for dust 514 content..
I like BF3 way of MT, releasing the game bit by bit instead of charging for ammo etc.
EDIT:
Good luck to CCP i do hope it succeeds because if it does it will boost the eve subscription base as CCP could advertise EVE through the console game.
However i am worried that if it does faill it will drag eve down BIG, you got balls for doing this CCP that is for sure!
Good Luck!! I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
201
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:28:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote: That's entry #9, the one you linked, from the Sony website.
Talking of idiots, the site isn't even a Sony site it is a news website blog... You are either deliberately pretending to be a fool to troll (which I wouldn't be surprised by in the least) or you really are borderline retarded. |
Xavier Holtzman
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
37
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Posted - 2012.06.11 14:22:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:DUST 514 will have Micro Transactions right? If so that will NOT work on console..
Considering nearly all the player base who play FPS on console are kiddys, i really doubt they will have a credit card to pay for dust 514 content..
I like BF3 way of MT, releasing the game bit by bit instead of charging for ammo etc.
EDIT:
Good luck to CCP i do hope it succeeds because if it does it will boost the eve subscription base as CCP could advertise EVE through the console game.
However i am worried that if it does faill it will drag eve down BIG, you got balls for doing this CCP that is for sure!
Good Luck!!
Weren't you quitting or somthing? ... Like ... a month ago? |
Alice Saki
Analog Folk SRS.
111
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After E3 I can't see Consoles surviving unless your into Fitness games and Like Jumping around your Livingroom .... http://tinyurl.com/RifterDeath My Rifter Adventure in Null |
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Orlacc
175
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:27:00 -
[101] - Quote
Stay tuned! Next week NickyYo and his pals take on the deflation of the Euro!
P.S. PS3 is doing fine. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2050
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:43:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:I only play PC titles. So if it is going to fail no big deal. I will never play it. ... a great deal of misinformation and speculation...
CCP financials are available and have been examined extensively by the EVE community.
Subscription numbers, when released, include only ACTIVE accounts.
If CCP weren't willing to take a risk, like every other major player in the gaming industry, EVE would never have been created in the first place. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 18:26:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
You do realize that they have yet to really scratch the surface of the PS3 (and I wager, the 360), yeah? And that both Microsoft and Sony both believe that they still have a couple more good years at least before an 8th generation system is due? I understand why you think that, in the past, consoles have worked off of the five year rule. But the aforementioned console developers are gonna drag this one out a little bit further.
Oh, and there is no real info on the PS4, let alone a release date. Education, it's a beautiful thing. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
276
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Posted - 2012.06.11 23:29:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:CCP financials are available and have been examined extensively by the EVE community.
Subscription numbers, when released, include only ACTIVE accounts.
If CCP weren't willing to take a risk, like every other major player in the gaming industry, EVE would never have been created in the first place.
Exactly, not player numbers, but accounts - difference is: if you got an average of 1.5 accounts per player, every time you lose 100 players, you actually lose 150 accounts/characters. Think about it. Then expand your thought process to the other points in my post. Got it yet? Or did you skim read for mirth.
As for 'every other major player'...well, CCP are simply not a major player, although their attempt to be this is commendable, and their PR interview question-answering at the booths at shows is very 'PR-by-numbers' comments that say everything and nothing.
This is kinda what I was hinting at with the 'keeping up appearances' comment(s), as I'm sure they are playing it cool and socialising with the real major players and buying drinks for all.
If I had access to the psychological profiles of the top guys & gals at CCP, I may have some basis for suggesting that the need to release on PS3 is because the name behind it is 'Sony' and that just gives other people a different impression of a company, than one which runs a small, niche MMO from Iceland.
The Ego is a fickle thing, and it's interesting to read peoples responses to difficult questions, and then to watch them slip into autopilot PR responses.
What someone does defines who they are, not what they say, remember?
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.12 08:45:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:AlleyKat wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:I only play PC titles. So if it is going to fail no big deal. I will never play it. ... a great deal of misinformation and speculation... CCP financials are available and have been examined extensively by the EVE community. Subscription numbers, when released, include only ACTIVE accounts. If CCP weren't willing to take a risk, like every other major player in the gaming industry, EVE would never have been created in the first place.
You do not get it. Dust is not going to be released for the PC. So whatever happens to Dust is not my concern except for if it impacts EVE negatively. I will never play Dust. Further even a flop title on a counsole rig will probably do far better than EVE does as a PC title for CCP. And that is what really irritates me. CCP already seems to understand this as well. That is why they are releasing it as a counsole title instead of as a PC title. That to me says CCP is marketing to the preteen crowd IE flashy graphics and no game play.
CCP evolving like that is a bad thing IMHO. Just like playing EVE...if you can make a ton of money without much work just using some flashy graphics then why bother with difficult intense PC game play titles? Titles where the return on investment is a lot less. Like PC titles, like EVE.
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Venri Zod
Order of the Black Dagger Damu'Khonde
1
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Posted - 2012.06.12 09:11:00 -
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Don't they realize FPS sucks on console??? |
Kievan Arakyd
MarSec Industries STR8NGE BREW
49
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Posted - 2012.06.12 09:25:00 -
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Damn, unreal engine 3 games can never be moved form one platform to another.... Got my Dust514 key... |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
596
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Posted - 2012.06.12 09:33:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:CCP financials are available and have been examined extensively by the EVE community.
Subscription numbers, when released, include only ACTIVE accounts.
If CCP weren't willing to take a risk, like every other major player in the gaming industry, EVE would never have been created in the first place.
+1 to that.
Some people simply do not get that and do not follow through on the logic of it. Haters going to keep on hating, I guess. I have had the privilege of playing some Dust514 and all I can say is it's a brilliant addition to Eve. The potential interaction with all of Eve is tremendous.
Bring it on, CCP !! The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
596
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Posted - 2012.06.12 09:35:00 -
[109] - Quote
Kievan Arakyd wrote:Damn, unreal engine 3 games can never be moved form one platform to another....
hehe, good use of positive sarcasm o7
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.12 10:12:00 -
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Venri Zod wrote:Don't they realize FPS sucks on console???
Yep like skyrim. If you want to play that game with all of the add on content then you must use the PC version. The console version is stuck with very limited almost no additional content. Many things in that game are difficult to do on the console version and the PC version makes the game what it should be. Graphics can be driven to a much higher level on the PC version than what the console can do. But note the interface sucked for the PC because the game was designed for the console first. It was only later that a new pc interface was developed. Even with all of that being as it is the console version outsold the PC version 6 to 1.
In the end the pc experience is much greater than the console experience is with skyrim. And you can not run the nude mod on a console version. |
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
420
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Posted - 2012.06.12 10:14:00 -
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Venri Zod wrote:Don't they realize FPS sucks on console???
Don't you realise a whole hell of a lot of people think you are wrong?
MW3 sales by platform
VGCHARTZ wrote:A reported 1.5 million people queued at midnight globally to get their hands on Modern Warfare 3, with a total of 9.3 million copies sold on the first day. The Xbox 360 version sees around a 54% share, meaning it's the first game on one platform to pass 5 million on its first day. The PlayStation 3 version held 42%, which is around the 4 million mark. Both day ones are only slightly behind Black Ops entire first week sales. The PC version and the Wii version held the remaining 4%, which is around 370,000 units.
14.7 million people purchased it for the XBOX 360, 11.89 million for the PS3 and 1.38 million for the PC. Seems the rest of the world disagrees with you and believes that consoles are much better for FPS games, which is just one of the reasons why DUST514 is a console game, not a PC game. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
278
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Posted - 2012.06.12 13:03:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Venri Zod wrote:Don't they realize FPS sucks on console??? Don't you realise a whole hell of a lot of people think you are wrong? MW3 sales by platformVGCHARTZ wrote:A reported 1.5 million people queued at midnight globally to get their hands on Modern Warfare 3, with a total of 9.3 million copies sold on the first day. The Xbox 360 version sees around a 54% share, meaning it's the first game on one platform to pass 5 million on its first day. The PlayStation 3 version held 42%, which is around the 4 million mark. Both day ones are only slightly behind Black Ops entire first week sales. The PC version and the Wii version held the remaining 4%, which is around 370,000 units. 14.7 million people purchased it for the XBOX 360, 11.89 million for the PS3 and 1.38 million for the PC. Seems the rest of the world disagrees with you and believes that consoles are much better for FPS games, which is just one of the reasons why DUST514 is a console game, not a PC game.
MW3 had $100 million in marketing budget, and spent $1.5 million hiring Sam Worthington (lead in Avatar - go figure the target audience) to act in a live-action sequence promo.
CCP are spending how much? Oh, that's right - ZERO, because they are not a global player and have access to 1/10th of a billion $ to promote their new game which they believe really strongly about.
So confident are they, they are releasing the game F2P.
Supporting your comment slightly; People who FPS on consoles play CoD or anything else which has $100 mill marketing budgets and People who FPS on PC's don't.
/doublefacepalm GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2060
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Posted - 2012.06.12 15:30:00 -
[113] - Quote
AlleyKat wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:CCP financials are available and have been examined extensively by the EVE community.
Subscription numbers, when released, include only ACTIVE accounts.
If CCP weren't willing to take a risk, like every other major player in the gaming industry, EVE would never have been created in the first place. Exactly, not player numbers, but accounts - difference is: if you got an average of 1.5 accounts per player, every time you lose 100 players, you actually lose 150 accounts/characters. Think about it. Then expand your thought process to the other points in my post. Got it yet? Or did you skim read for mirth. As for 'every other major player'...well, CCP are simply not a major player, although their attempt to be this is commendable, and their PR interview question-answering at the booths at shows is very 'PR-by-numbers' comments that say everything and nothing. This is kinda what I was hinting at with the 'keeping up appearances' comment(s), as I'm sure they are playing it cool and socialising with the real major players and buying drinks for all. If I had access to the psychological profiles of the top guys & gals at CCP, I may have some basis for suggesting that the need to release on PS3 is because the name behind it is 'Sony' and that just gives other people a different impression of a company, than one which runs a small, niche MMO from Iceland. The Ego is a fickle thing, and it's interesting to read peoples responses to difficult questions, and then to watch them slip into autopilot PR responses. What someone does defines who they are, not what they say, remember? AK
Perhaps you should reread what you posted and put some thought into it yourself.
While you have demonstrated your grasp of basic math, when you consider that active subscriptions have steadily increased every year (remember, your original point was that they were trying to count inactive subscriptions as well) all you have proven is that not only is CCP's income is increasing, but also (unless there are statistics we haven't seen stating otherwise) since the ratio of players to number of accounts has remained the same the number of active players is therefore expanding also.
Also consider that all this is happening despite system requirements becoming a bit more demanding (limiting multi box users to a degree), and that currently thousands of accounts are banned every month for botting (again, heavy multi boxers).
You have successfully proven that CCP is heading in the right direction from a business point of view and are expanding their customer base, congratulations.
Edit: I almost forgot, while you may not consider CCP to be a major player that is simply your opinion. The rest of the gaming industry seems to disagree with you. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2060
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Posted - 2012.06.12 15:35:00 -
[114] - Quote
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:AlleyKat wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:I only play PC titles. So if it is going to fail no big deal. I will never play it. ... a great deal of misinformation and speculation... CCP financials are available and have been examined extensively by the EVE community. Subscription numbers, when released, include only ACTIVE accounts. If CCP weren't willing to take a risk, like every other major player in the gaming industry, EVE would never have been created in the first place. You do not get it. Dust is not going to be released for the PC. So whatever happens to Dust is not my concern except for if it impacts EVE negatively. I will never play Dust. Further even a flop title on a console rig will probably do far better than EVE does as a PC title for CCP. And that is what really irritates me. CCP already seems to understand this as well. That is why they are releasing it as a console title instead of as a PC title. That to me says CCP is marketing to the preteen crowd IE flashy graphics and no game play. CCP evolving like that is a bad thing IMHO. Just like playing EVE...if you can make a ton of money without much work just using some flashy graphics then why bother with difficult intense PC game play titles? Titles where the return on investment is a lot less. Like PC titles, like EVE.
Game companies can and do create games for different audiences and playstyles.
DUST is shaping up to have deeper game play by far than any other FPS console game (and most FPS shooter games) on the market.
If you have the opportunity, you might want to check out the Beta before you comment too much further. It's beginning to look pretty amazing. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
52
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Posted - 2012.06.12 15:46:00 -
[115] - Quote
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
You do not get it. Dust is not going to be released for the PC. So whatever happens to Dust is not my concern except for if it impacts EVE negatively. I will never play Dust. Further even a flop title on a console rig will probably do far better than EVE does as a PC title for CCP. And that is what really irritates me. CCP already seems to understand this as well. That is why they are releasing it as a console title instead of as a PC title. That to me says CCP is marketing to the preteen crowd IE flashy graphics and no game play.
CCP evolving like that is a bad thing IMHO. Just like playing EVE...if you can make a ton of money without much work just using some flashy graphics then why bother with difficult intense PC game play titles? Titles where the return on investment is a lot less. Like PC titles, like EVE.
So you're basically saying that since console games sells better than EVE (let me disagree. DUST will be F2P while EVE charges a monthly fee, so we will have to see how does all this goes), then CCP must be aiming for console player base, who obviously are teenagers all of them (regardless many of my friends have a PS3), who obviously will only be interested in graphics (even if the already announced interaction with EVE will be inmense). And all of this shows that CCP is a bad bad company because they want to make money and they will, somehow, manage to ruin EVE (don't you guys get tired of so much doomsaying?) because they will grow effortless, even after having mantained EVE in a extremely good level for longer than any other MMO out there (save for Runescape I guess).
Too much of assuption, don't you think? |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1526
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Posted - 2012.06.12 16:01:00 -
[116] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:Not because of the game content but becuase of CCP's planning.
So CCP is going to release this DUST 514 on the exteremely outdated Playstation 3 right? My view is this, why are they not preparing it for PlayStation 4 where they are guranteed large purchases?
CCP, you do know the Playstation 4 comes out in 6 months right?
Take PS3 source code... print to PS4 disc with proper encoding... problem solved.
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Flakey Foont
138
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Posted - 2012.06.12 16:24:00 -
[117] - Quote
I love how a bunch of fry cooks and Best Buy clerks know the right way to run a business. |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
983
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Posted - 2012.06.12 16:41:00 -
[118] - Quote
How is it going to compete when Sony is releasing not only Planetside2 but also StarHawks. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
436
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:47:00 -
[119] - Quote
AlleyKat wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Venri Zod wrote:Don't they realize FPS sucks on console??? Don't you realise a whole hell of a lot of people think you are wrong? MW3 sales by platformVGCHARTZ wrote:A reported 1.5 million people queued at midnight globally to get their hands on Modern Warfare 3, with a total of 9.3 million copies sold on the first day. The Xbox 360 version sees around a 54% share, meaning it's the first game on one platform to pass 5 million on its first day. The PlayStation 3 version held 42%, which is around the 4 million mark. Both day ones are only slightly behind Black Ops entire first week sales. The PC version and the Wii version held the remaining 4%, which is around 370,000 units. 14.7 million people purchased it for the XBOX 360, 11.89 million for the PS3 and 1.38 million for the PC. Seems the rest of the world disagrees with you and believes that consoles are much better for FPS games, which is just one of the reasons why DUST514 is a console game, not a PC game. MW3 had $100 million in marketing budget, and spent $1.5 million hiring Sam Worthington (lead in Avatar - go figure the target audience) to act in a live-action sequence promo. CCP are spending how much? Oh, that's right - ZERO, because they are not a global player and have access to 1/10th of a billion $ to promote their new game which they believe really strongly about. So confident are they, they are releasing the game F2P. Supporting your comment slightly; People who FPS on consoles play CoD or anything else which has $100 mill marketing budgets and People who FPS on PC's don't. /doublefacepalm
You seem to have missed something here. While CCP lack the worldwide stature to successfully advertise DUST514, there is someone involved in the project who does. Have you perhaps heard of a little Japanese company called Sony?
Well it seems that they are advertising DUST514, spending a lot of time and money doing so, and have been supporting the project from step one. Isn't that nice of them? Not only that but all three major console makers are watching DUST514 with great anticipation, do you know why? Because of the F2P market and it's ability to generate massive amounts of long term income.
Take League of Legends for an example, their daily income jumped up by 700% after it went F2P, and LOTRO also saw vast increases in income when it did the same. DUST514 is the worlds first AAA MMOFPS that has been designed from the ground up to be both F2P and for consoles.
So, in summary, DUST514 will be well advertised both within the existing FPS gaming community as well as to the wider market.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.13 07:19:00 -
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Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
You do not get it. Dust is not going to be released for the PC. So whatever happens to Dust is not my concern except for if it impacts EVE negatively. I will never play Dust. Further even a flop title on a console rig will probably do far better than EVE does as a PC title for CCP. And that is what really irritates me. CCP already seems to understand this as well. That is why they are releasing it as a console title instead of as a PC title. That to me says CCP is marketing to the preteen crowd IE flashy graphics and no game play.
CCP evolving like that is a bad thing IMHO. Just like playing EVE...if you can make a ton of money without much work just using some flashy graphics then why bother with difficult intense PC game play titles? Titles where the return on investment is a lot less. Like PC titles, like EVE.
So you're basically saying that since console games sells better than EVE (let me disagree. DUST will be F2P while EVE charges a monthly fee, so we will have to see how does all this goes), then CCP must be aiming for console player base, who obviously are teenagers all of them (regardless many of my friends have a PS3), who obviously will only be interested in graphics (even if the already announced interaction with EVE will be inmense). And all of this shows that CCP is a bad bad company because they want to make money and they will, somehow, manage to ruin EVE (don't you guys get tired of so much doomsaying?) because they will grow effortless, even after having mantained EVE in a extremely good level for longer than any other MMO out there (save for Runescape I guess). Too much of assuption, don't you think?
Yep I am setting the bar pretty low. CCP can surprise me with a lot of upside and I hope they do. But I am not holding my breath. Still I am not ever going to buy a console. Ergo Dust has no value to me unless it has a positive impact on EVE. But if it has a negative impact on EVE then I will be upset. And I suspect this result has the greater chance than any upside result. Just call it past experience. |
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AlleyKat
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:So, in summary, DUST514 will be well advertised both within the existing FPS gaming community as well as to the wider market.
Will it have $100 mill marketing budget or not?
If not, the point you made earlier in this post is an invalid comparision.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
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AlleyKat
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Ranger 1 wrote:Perhaps you should reread what you posted and put some thought into it yourself. While you have demonstrated your grasp of basic math, when you consider that active subscriptions have steadily increased every year (remember, your original point was that they were trying to count inactive subscriptions as well) all you have proven is that not only is CCP's income is increasing, but also (unless there are statistics we haven't seen stating otherwise) since the ratio of players to number of accounts has remained the same the number of active players is therefore expanding also. Also consider that all this is happening despite system requirements becoming a bit more demanding (limiting multi box users to a degree), and that currently thousands of accounts are banned every month for botting (again, heavy multi boxers). You have successfully proven that CCP is heading in the right direction from a business point of view and are expanding their customer base, congratulations. Edit: I almost forgot, while you may not consider CCP to be a major player that is simply your opinion. The rest of the gaming industry seems to disagree with you.
My original point has still flown over your head, sorry.
CCP is not a major player, under the following definition:
1: Have not released more than 3 AAA multi-platform titles globally, per annum 2: Have less than $50 million apportioned to R&D per annum 3: Have less than $1 billion revenue per annum
This is what the industry consider a major player, so...your point?
And, if you would be so kind to link me to the subscriber figures from CCP, that'll be interesting reading - but lets not get off point too much, it would be a shame for one of your posts to get deleted.
Dust faces many challenges, and everyone's fear is it will be largely ignored by FPS players and CCP would have been better off either supporting EVE more, or making it a singlular experience sold for $25.
CCP making other games ain't the problem - its methodology and execution, is.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
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Cutter Isaacson
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AlleyKat wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:So, in summary, DUST514 will be well advertised both within the existing FPS gaming community as well as to the wider market. Will it have $100 mill marketing budget or not? If not, the point you made earlier in this post is an invalid comparision. AK
They had such a massive budget because the game was available on more than one system, not to mention the fact that they are JUST a games company. DUST514 is only available on the PS3 and will be advertised by the very company that produces said system, so less money need be spent on advertising in order to reach its target market.
Hopefully that is clear enough even for NickyYo to understand. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:AlleyKat wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:So, in summary, DUST514 will be well advertised both within the existing FPS gaming community as well as to the wider market. Will it have $100 mill marketing budget or not? If not, the point you made earlier in this post is an invalid comparision. AK They had such a massive budget because the game was available on more than one system, not to mention the fact that they are JUST a games company. DUST514 is only available on the PS3 and will be advertised by the very company that produces said system, so less money need be spent on advertising in order to reach its target market. Hopefully that is clear enough even for NickyYo to understand.
No that is not clear, one advertisment covers all consoles because their markets are the same.. I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
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NickyYo wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:AlleyKat wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:So, in summary, DUST514 will be well advertised both within the existing FPS gaming community as well as to the wider market. Will it have $100 mill marketing budget or not? If not, the point you made earlier in this post is an invalid comparision. AK They had such a massive budget because the game was available on more than one system, not to mention the fact that they are JUST a games company. DUST514 is only available on the PS3 and will be advertised by the very company that produces said system, so less money need be spent on advertising in order to reach its target market. Hopefully that is clear enough even for NickyYo to understand. No that is not clear, one advertisment covers all consoles because their markets are the same..
So paying money to advertise in a PS3 specific magazine will also cover an advertisement in an XBOX360 specific magazine will it? Try thinking along THOSE lines and maybe you'll see what I mean.
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:NickyYo wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:AlleyKat wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:So, in summary, DUST514 will be well advertised both within the existing FPS gaming community as well as to the wider market. Will it have $100 mill marketing budget or not? If not, the point you made earlier in this post is an invalid comparision. AK They had such a massive budget because the game was available on more than one system, not to mention the fact that they are JUST a games company. DUST514 is only available on the PS3 and will be advertised by the very company that produces said system, so less money need be spent on advertising in order to reach its target market. Hopefully that is clear enough even for NickyYo to understand. No that is not clear, one advertisment covers all consoles because their markets are the same.. So paying money to advertise in a PS3 specific magazine will also cover an advertisement in an XBOX360 specific magazine will it? Try thinking along THOSE lines and maybe you'll see what I mean.
Who buys PS3 only mags? Do they even exist? People Buy console mags.. I have released a basic EVE Lottery Framework for you all you use to make lottery sites |
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