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BeanBagKing
Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation
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Posted - 2009.09.14 20:52:00 -
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Alright, so I was on IRC last night and someone had the idea of a battle recorder for alliance tournaments. this could (potentially?) be used to record battles by the end user, but that's way out there, lets keep it simple for the moment.
Instead of actually capturing video using some method such as FRAPS, CCP records the information the server sends to the client and vise versa. As it's only the information, all rendering would be done on the client side. This should make for both small "grid recorder" (as it's been dubbed) files as well as making it non-process intensive to record. It should be even less process intensive as it's being recorded server side by CCP.
CCP uploads these files and a special Eve Playback Utility is used to play it. It would use the installed Eve files to render everything, the difference would be that it wouldn't necessarily have to go online (everything done locally), and that you wouldn't fly a ship, the camera position would more than likely be fixed on whatever recorded the battle originally, but you could look at and move the camera round, user overview settings to view ship speed and distance, get info on ships/players, etc just as though you were watching the battle in Eve. As I said, everything would be rendered locally, so you would be limited to what your machine can support as far as graphics. If you really wanted to get fancy you could introduce slowmo and pause, rewind, etc features.
I'm sure someone will bring up the point that as it's only recorded information someone could mess with these files to produce false battles. As it's an offline file though, this isn't really important. You can make up a fake battle, but it won't affect anything in game. If you were really worried about this, then CCP could encrypt the file before putting it online for download.
Now, I don't know the exact technical limitations of what I'm talking about so now is the time for everyone to point out to me where I'm wrong. However, other than the difficulties in programming a grid recorder and playback utility, I really don't see how this would be a problem. The information is already read by the server and client and I would imagine is written to some form of file, even if temporarily. You just need to put that information into a format readable by the playback program, which could be done after the battle has finished at a later date, and build the playback program itself.
So?
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Baeryn
Corporate Sin
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Posted - 2009.09.14 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Baeryn on 14/09/2009 21:21:00 Signed, this seems like a simple engineering challenge, and with even more features than you list here. If all client-server transactions could be recorded for a time period, it would be trivial to re-create an 'instanced' (and read-only) version of that time period for replay at any time.
Instead of calling it a "grid recorder", call them "holoreels" and allow free viewing of these files to non-subscribers. Allow viewers to navigate through the battle and set camera focus on anyone/anything, integrate automated COSMOS/YouTube uploads (post-creation of an AVI export), and you'll see your active subscriber gain increase by at least 5% per month.
This would allow players to trade tiny little 5-25MB files in a ".holo" format, instead of tossing around static video files using EVE files... (often 150mb+) Role Playing Games by RolePlayGateway |
z0de
Gallente The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.09.14 21:23:00 -
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That's how fps's do it, no reason eve couldn't do it too. á á
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Sveminir Trpimirovic
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Posted - 2009.09.14 22:58:00 -
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BeanBagKing
Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation
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Posted - 2009.09.15 16:09:00 -
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Bump for more support
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jemos
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.15 17:52:00 -
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Supported /signed
Battlefield 2 have this type of engine! And one could actually support in in RP as well. It would make sense if all ships kept a black-box on-board that relayed information so the FC could review the fleets performance, and to try figuring out the opposing fleets setup etc.
One just records the sent information. save it, and rebuild it. The camera don't have to be fixed, but could be moved around since you've pre-recorded material.
With the eve-voice wich I presume the Gm's actually use (I hope they do) one could even save the conversations within the files.
Originally by: FireT
If you have capitals..... well for the love of Raptor Pope, use them before they rust away.
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Checkle
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Posted - 2009.09.20 16:41:00 -
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This would definitely be a good idea.
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BeanBagKing
Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation
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Posted - 2009.09.26 23:23:00 -
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bump
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Dante Edmundo
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Posted - 2009.09.27 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dante Edmundo on 27/09/2009 00:08:13 Interesting idea. Then people would just somehow signup in-game.
Would the server be able to handle though that many viewers at one single location??
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BeanBagKing
Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation
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Posted - 2009.09.27 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dante Edmundo Edited by: Dante Edmundo on 27/09/2009 00:08:13 Interesting idea. Then people would just somehow signup in-game.
Would the server be able to handle though that many viewers at one single location??
nono, that's the beauty of it (well, sorta) it wouldn't be live, there would be no added stress on the server. It would be nice if it were live, but your right about the server.
It's the information sent to and from the server, recorded on the server end and then packaged up and uploaded. You download this smallish file and then render/play it locally. This way you would still have access to all of your overview settings, so you could see how fast ships were going, angular velocity, distance, as well as looking up pilot and ship information.
Not live though, though if CCP implemented it then the small file size and no need to compress/upload large videos should mean that the process could be scripted and uploaded within a minute or so of a match ending.
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velocity7
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Posted - 2009.09.27 02:07:00 -
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/signed
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KissedByDeath
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Posted - 2009.09.27 07:17:00 -
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/signed
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Malen Nenokal
R.E.C.O.N. Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.09.27 09:32:00 -
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This sort of tool would be ideal for recording pvp vids and making player made eve trailers too. I would love it.
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