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Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.06.06 00:29:00 -
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>> Ishuk-Raata Certified News >> Syndicate Region >> JQV5-9 Constellation
It has been a little over two months since I-RED has shifted its focus from Intaki and the Placid region to the pirate infested region of Syndicate. Prior to I-RED's arrival, the JQV5-9 pocket lived up to the typical lawless portrayal of the region as a whole. Serpentis Cartel operations ran unchallenged and pirate capsuleers ran amok. After focused effort and dedication to the cause of free trade, I-RED forces (in conjunction with a couple of allies) managed to weed out a majority of the piratical elements in the pocket. Cartel operations dropped significantly, and crime overall on the various planetary colonies also witnessed a decrease in crime. Recent reports suggest as high a drop as 44 percent on some colonies, with 17 percent being the lowest. Local governments have even started to create security contracts with I-RED to supplement local police forces.
"I am very thankful of I-RED and their operations down here," said small business owner Jakuro Oneidaa. "Their anti-pirate operations have paved the way for greater success of the local economies..and their presence just makes the place feel a little safer."
Talks are currently circulating among I-RED leadership of introducing a stimulus package for the planetary colonies of the pocket.
"The local economies are self-sufficient enough, and they are most certainly capable of growing themselves," stated one I-RED capsuleer. "This proposed stimulus package would be more focused on building local infrastructure, and in attracting a greater number of inhabitants and tourists...basically, to promote the JQV5-9 pocket as being a haven of sorts."
Even if the measure isn't passed, I-RED has already established its own planetary infrastructure across various systems in the pocket in the form of customs offices and moon starbases. Struggling planetary inhabitants have found solace in the fact that they can apply and work for harvesting and manufacturing plants under the supervision of I-RED capsuleers. Additionally, I-RED starbases also draw a small percentage of their employees from the local population. Some inhabitants have even found work aboard I-RED vessels as one I-RED capsuleer mentions when she stated she provides "crew opportunities."
Single mother Aria Jova had this to say, "I was struggling to provide for my children before I-RED arrived. When you go day by day just managing to scrape a living, you feel grateful when the opportunity comes for you to elevate your life and the life of your family. For me, this opportunity came when I applied for a stable, decent-wage job offered by an I-RED member."
Despite an overall warm reception of I-RED from the local inhabitants, there are some who still feel little with regards to I-RED's presence in the area.
"We left the Federation to forge our own destiny. By merely accepting the aid of these greedy capsuleers, we blight the hard work and sacrifice of those before us!" The man wished to remain anonymous, but this sentiment is echoed amongst the more independent settlements.
Regardless of any malevolent feelings, I-RED will continue to work alongside non-capsuleer entities to make the most of their new home.
A non-capsuleer I-RED commander had this to say. "Despite all the philanthropist activities conducted by I-RED, our sole purpose in Syndicate is to secure the influence and assets of the Ishukone corporation, while spreading free trade across the region and conducting anti-pirate operations. We like to view our 'financial assistance' programs as long-term investments. I have high hopes for continued prosperity of the JQV5-9 pocket." |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2012.06.06 00:58:00 -
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On behalf of the Honor Guard, I wish to extend a wish for continued success to I-RED. Assistance of the planetary inhabitants and elimination (or reduction) of piratical elements will go to great lengths to bring about stability and security in which families and businesses may thrive.
~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon WHG Recruitment Video |
Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
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Posted - 2012.06.06 01:09:00 -
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I used to spend significant time out in Syndicate on business. The baseliners out there deserve a better shot, and I hope this means less oppression for those who can't protect themselves. |
Lyn Farel
Kitzless
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Posted - 2012.06.06 11:47:00 -
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Congratulations for your efforts. |
Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
35
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Posted - 2012.06.06 17:08:00 -
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Let me present a quote
John Revenent, Ishukone-Raata Executor wrote: The Ishukone-Raata High Command will continue its efforts to create a stable economy in the Intaki system along with the Placid Region as a whole, even with the loss of Caldari Ocupancy in the constelation it will not affect our sales or our efforts to create a stable work enviroment for the Intaki people.
You exploited the resources of Intaki system for some time and now you are abandoning your contracts, "stable" work environment, "stable" economy, employees and their families, as it no longer seems profitable. I'm not going to ask why because the answer is clear, this is like a text book example of how a megacorporation operates. However, those who thought something else should probably spend a moment in quiet self-reflection.
By expressing these thoughts, my intention is not to try to stop you. Federation will take care of its own, and undoubtedly your presence in the Syndicate will be well-received by the local populace. |
CynoMonkey
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.06 17:53:00 -
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Word in the bilges is that I-red have pissed off a few of syndicates more capable alliances who, perhaps ironically, see themselves as anti pirate and are coming together to rid syndicate of the "i-red pirate scum". Perhaps OP has heard this also and is trying to spin things in order to garner sympathy?
By the way, I never post with any of my mains, that would be suicide. Post with your monkey or GTFO |
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
12
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Posted - 2012.06.06 17:58:00 -
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Bastian Valoron wrote:Let me present a quoteJohn Revenent, Ishukone-Raata Executor wrote: The Ishukone-Raata High Command will continue its efforts to create a stable economy in the Intaki system along with the Placid Region as a whole, even with the loss of Caldari Ocupancy in the constelation it will not affect our sales or our efforts to create a stable work enviroment for the Intaki people.
You exploited the resources of Intaki system for some time and now you are abandoning your contracts, "stable" work environment, "stable" economy, employees and their families, as it no longer seems profitable. I'm not going to ask why because the answer is clear, this is like a text book example of how a megacorporation operates. However, those who thought something else should probably spend a moment in quiet self-reflection. By expressing these thoughts, my intention is not to try to stop you. Federation will take care of its own, and undoubtedly your presence in the Syndicate will be well-received by the local populace.
Rest assured, Mr. Valoron, we did not "exploit" the Intaki system in any such way, shape, or form. Our business in the area was mutually beneficial to us and the local population. The local Intaki market was quite lucrative, actually, and very profitable. Our reason for moving elsewhere was based off more diplomatic affairs and the fact that our mother corporation requested our presence in Syndicate. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:05:00 -
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Bastian Valoron wrote:Let me present a quoteJohn Revenent, Ishukone-Raata Executor wrote: The Ishukone-Raata High Command will continue its efforts to create a stable economy in the Intaki system along with the Placid Region as a whole, even with the loss of Caldari Ocupancy in the constelation it will not affect our sales or our efforts to create a stable work enviroment for the Intaki people.
You exploited the resources of Intaki system for some time and now you are abandoning your contracts, "stable" work environment, "stable" economy, employees and their families, as it no longer seems profitable. I'm not going to ask why because the answer is clear, this is like a text book example of how a megacorporation operates. However, those who thought something else should probably spend a moment in quiet self-reflection. By expressing these thoughts, my intention is not to try to stop you. Federation will take care of its own, and undoubtedly your presence in the Syndicate will be well-received by the local populace.
The Intaki economy is more stable now than it ever was before, with active market competition and a steady supply and market of capsuleer goods in both Intaki and Agoze. Furthermore, I-RED has not completely left Intaki to its own devices. We still continue to regularly do business and operate Starbase Control Towers in many Placid systems, as well as sets of tax-free Planetary Customs Offices.
Furthermore, I feel it is quite amusing for you to accuse us of abandoning our contracts when you are quite literally only privy to one contract. The one between I-RED and FCO. We have abandoned nothing in Intaki. KISEC still operates in Intaki, we still have diplomatic contacts in the region and are willing to assist when called upon. The only I-RED activity which has all but ceased in the Placid region are our regular security patrols.
When your organization was but a fledgling alliance, already besieged by forces that sought your destruction; I-RED extended an offer to not only advise you on proper combat tactics but also fight for you at no cost or contract. While you declined the offer tactfully, it is shocking how quickly you forget our gestures of generosity and the diplomatic agreements between us to attack us here.
I ask you to take a moment and reconsider your insulting and hostile stance against those who perhaps considered you friends. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.06.06 21:39:00 -
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CynoMonkey wrote:Word in the bilges is that I-red have pissed off a few of syndicates more capable alliances who, perhaps ironically, see themselves as anti pirate and are coming together to rid syndicate of the "i-red pirate scum". Perhaps OP has heard this also and is trying to spin things in order to garner sympathy?
Edit: OOC comments removed - ISD Eshtir
You're words place a smile upon my face, it is good to know we are having such a effect on these more capable "anti-pirate" alliances. I am sure the people you represent are quite upset with the loss of the constellation in mere months. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. |
Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
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Posted - 2012.06.06 21:51:00 -
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First or all, it is beyond me how statement of facts and a couple of simple questions can be seen as "insulting" and "hostile" but from now on, I will be more gentle and sensitive when discussing with representatives of Caldari megacorp subsidiaries.
So the official claim is that I-RED continues to trade and produce goods for the Viriette constellation markets. I did some research on the current status of the markets in the relevant trade hubs and I could not find any orders up by anyone employed by I-RED. This of course does not prove that the claims made are lies but it does cast doubt on their veracity.
It would also be interesting to know whether the other local entrepreneurs support the idea that I-RED continues to be the source of stability for the local economy.
This is probably a good time to thank Mademoiselle Oniseki for finally revealing the real purpose of I-RED's offer of assistance. If everyone were indebted to I-RED, there wouldn't be inconvenient questions, would there? The Executive Council took this into consideration when rejecting the offer. Our material losses might have been greater but at least we maintained our freedom and independence.
In any case, it delights me to hear that I-RED's decision making process is not influenced by business and profit considerations but purely humanitarian and altruistic causes. Your investors must be delighted and impressed as well. I wish your success in your operations in the Syndicate. |
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Valdezi
Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:55:00 -
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Bastian Valoron wrote:In any case, it delights me to hear that I-RED's decision making process is not influenced by business and profit considerations but purely humanitarian and altruistic causes. Your investors must be delighted and impressed as well. I wish your success in your operations in the Syndicate.
There is an absurd false dichotomy present in this statement. The motivations of human beings are complex and those of corporations are no different. If we can help ourselves while helping others, then what is the harm? We can't all wear hair shirts and give all we have away to the poor.
I can see why Oniseki took exception to your tone, chancellor. It wavers between sarcastic and belligerent. |
Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:58:00 -
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Valdezi wrote: I can see why Oniseki took exception to your tone, chancellor. It wavers between sarcastic and belligerent.
Perhaps it is because the esteemed Chancellor is not interested in the views of painted, perfumed gigolos? You have problems keeping your shirt on at the best of times, so I understand why a hair shirt wouldn't suit you. Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
Valdezi
Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:59:00 -
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Oh, dry up, Nardieu, you great prune. |
Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2012.06.06 23:02:00 -
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To properly address the matter at hand, my predecessor long argued that the Ishukone Corporation and their subsidiaries are wolves in sheep's clothing. They play at friends with our people, but their only motivations is profit, always profit. Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
238
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Posted - 2012.06.06 23:35:00 -
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Hans Nardieu wrote:To properly address the matter at hand, my predecessor long argued that the Ishukone Corporation and their subsidiaries are wolves in sheep's clothing. They play at friends with our people, but their only motivations is profit, always profit.
The Federation would know a great deal about playing at friends while possessing ulterior motives.
If you're going to belligerently accuse a corporation that has been offering aid to people within your Federation for quite some time now and maintains a positive report from those they've aided, you may wish to bring actual proof to the table instead of simple allegations. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon WHG Recruitment Video |
Altarr Orkot
Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
20
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:43:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:The Federation would know a great deal about playing at friends while possessing ulterior motives.
Yeah a big part of the Federation was amazing at that, then they seceded and formed the Caldari State. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
241
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:51:00 -
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Altarr Orkot wrote:Malcolm Khross wrote:The Federation would know a great deal about playing at friends while possessing ulterior motives. Yeah a big part of the Federation was amazing at that, then they seceded and formed the Caldari State.
Ah, we're going to continue this discussion, are we? Our last discussion on this topic wasn't long enough ago?
I doubt anything new will be said. I should remind you, however, that the Caldari were never a big part of the Federation. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon WHG Recruitment Video |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
593
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:17:00 -
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Bastian Valoron wrote:First or all, it is beyond me how statement of facts and a couple of simple questions can be seen as "insulting" and "hostile" but from now on, I will be more gentle and sensitive when discussing with representatives of Caldari megacorp subsidiaries.
Oh that's right, snide remarks are the norm here on the IGS. Free speech for you and all that.
Bastian Valoron wrote: So the official claim is that I-RED continues to trade and produce goods for the Viriette constellation markets. I did some research on the current status of the markets in the relevant trade hubs and I could not find any orders up by anyone employed by I-RED. This of course does not prove that the claims made are lies but it does cast doubt on their veracity.
It would also be interesting to know whether the other local entrepreneurs support the idea that I-RED continues to be the source of stability for the local economy.
No, you place words in my mouth. I did not say we continue to produce goods for the Viriette capsuleer market. I said there is a constant market supply and competition on a much larger scale. Our operations within Placid have had a significant impact on the markets there, with Intaki now becoming one of the major Placid trade hubs outside the high-security border. This is also due in no small part to the cooperative efforts of FDU and ILF forces.
Bastian Valoron wrote: This is probably a good time to thank Mademoiselle Oniseki for finally revealing the real purpose of I-RED's offer of assistance. If everyone were indebted to I-RED, there wouldn't be inconvenient questions, would there? The Executive Council took this into consideration when rejecting the offer. Our material losses might have been greater but at least we maintained our freedom and independence.
The real reason for the offer was actually because me and Taisa Develon personally and vocally pushed to have an offer of assistance sent to you. I wanted to help, and so did she. We wanted to show support and friendship to a new trade partner in an effort to strengthen the diplomatic ties.
I see now this was a mistake. The offer was neither appreciated nor called for despite your appalling losses and abysmal ship fitting skills. Who was I to assume you might want some allies, and to offer this assistance and place a formal request to my superiors for deployment to your area of operations to assist where I can? No, friendly overtures are obsolete in New Eden, aren't they? End sarcasm.
You'll have to forgive me for 'taking my ball and going home', but I'm finished discussing this with you here. You've made a mockery of me and my support of FCO, and you've provided nothing but a dramatic and asinine accusations without any support or evidence (as Khross-haan pointed out).
Congratulations Chairman. You've lost a personal supporter, though I doubt you care or mind. |
Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
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Posted - 2012.06.07 02:22:00 -
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All this snark reminds me of long-ago times. Though I suppose that, in wars of words, no innocents die but the rest of us find some entertainment value.
Please, continue. |
Simca Develon
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
42
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Posted - 2012.06.07 02:24:00 -
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Hans Nardieu wrote:To properly address the matter at hand, my predecessor long argued that the Ishukone Corporation and their subsidiaries are wolves in sheep's clothing. They play at friends with our people, but their only motivations is profit, always profit.
While profit is one of our motivations you are incorrect in saying it is our only motivation. The sooner you learn and understand this the sooner most people will stop considering you an idiot.
To adress Mr. Valoron I would first like to state that Katrina and I did pressure Taisho Revenent to help you. I believe now that may have been an error in judgement on our part. We didn't offer assistance so that you would be indebted to us. We offered assistance because we thought we could help you establish yourselves and wanted to see you succeed. Perhaps next time we'll just let you burn. We neither need nor want fair weather friends, but we'll see which type you turn out to be soon enough. Je suis le commencement de votre fin. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. |
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Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
38
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Posted - 2012.06.07 16:20:00 -
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First of all, I would like to commend the superiors of Mademoiselle Oniseki for finding her as I-RED's mouthpiece. Emotional appeal is strong with her. She is a perfect cover for the practical side of your business decisions.
However, we all know how things work in New Eden. When cui bono, facts and evidence point in different direction than the words, it is only natural that people become curious. My questions could have been made by any investor and your answers are probably being red by them with great curiosity. I hope they will discover all the findings satisfactory.
The background of my questioning was based on research and on the data I-RED's representatives themselves have released. Let me apologize on behalf of everyone who missed this fact.
When it comes to war time dealings, it is very convenient to say afterwards that there was no poison in the glass. It would be underestimating you to think that your gestures during the war were an error of judgment. Please, give me a break.
When FCO was fighting for its right to exist, we had to make a choice between our principles and material values. We chose our principles.
The path of a defender of liberty, decency, prosperity and happiness in the midst of the darkness of New Eden is not an easy path to walk. It is a lonely road. Perhaps we will burn, but we will never give up. Whatever will happen, we will remain faithful to the vision that some day freedom will prevail.
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
243
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:15:00 -
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Chancellor Valoran,
I commend you for choosing to stand by your principles even when it meant sacrifice in doing so, there is honor on doing so.
I would recommend that you consider carefully the reputation I-RED has with those they have operated with and through and consider that a voice from within this circle, backed by factual evidence, will serve your allegations more appropriately than a continued charade here.
Consider that you came to I-RED's new declaration with malicious intent and sparked a debate while I-RED came to your inaugural announcement with well-wishes. Now consider how this paints your venom toward them in the public eye. You stated that your information source was I-RED's own news but you failed to provide any evidence of it, merely your own words.
If you are the man of principle and honor that you are masquerading as here, then I urge you to provide concrete, irrefutable proof of your allegations. If you cannot do so, then the reputation I-RED possesses with those they have worked with and through, as well as the consistency of their operations and its visibility to the public eye will overpower your allegations and a man of honor would do well to publicly apologize in sincerity for such a besmirching.
The burden of proof, after all, is on the accuser. I would have expected a politician, as you appear to be, to understand the importance of appearance and the value of information when backed with evidence. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon WHG Recruitment Video |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:42:00 -
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Therin lies the essential downside of politicians, Malcolm. They may acknowledge the rules their particular society has laid down in terms of due process, but in the end they realize that what is said is, ultimately, more powerful than what is proven, in regards to influencing public opinion.
A lie, repeated often and loudly enough, etcetera. |
Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
38
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:15:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:You stated that your information source was I-RED's own news but you failed to provide any evidence of it, merely your own words.
If you are the man of principle and honor that you are masquerading as here, then I urge you to provide concrete, irrefutable proof of your allegations. If you cannot do so, then the reputation I-RED possesses with those they have worked with and through, as well as the consistency of their operations and its visibility to the public eye will overpower your allegations and a man of honor would do well to publicly apologize in sincerity for such a besmirching.
The burden of proof, after all, is on the accuser. I would have expected a politician, as you appear to be, to understand the importance of appearance and the value of information when backed with evidence. Dear M Khross, you are making unfounded assumptions about my motivations. Anyone looking for investment opportunities could have asked the same questions. Let me re-cap the discussion and let the facts speak for themselves.
Here, the executor of Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive states that the Ishukone-Raata High Command will continue its efforts to create a stable economy in the Intaki system along with the Placid Region as a whole.
John Revenent wrote: The Ishukone-Raata High Command will continue its efforts to create a stable economy in the Intaki system along with the Placid Region as a whole, even with the loss of Caldari Ocupancy in the constelation it will not affect our sales or our efforts to create a stable work enviroment for the Intaki people.
This was done shortly after the Intaki Assembly had made a shipping deal with Ishukone megacorporation.
Then, Korsavius, a news releaser of I-RED, states that it has been a little over two months since I-RED has shifted its focus from Intaki and the Placid region to the pirate infested region of Syndicate.
Korsavius wrote: I-RED states that it has been a little over two months since I-RED has shifted its focus from Intaki and the Placid region to the pirate infested region of Syndicate.
I hope everyone can see that these two statements are not mutually compatible. A natural question I kindly posed was whether the intention is to maintain a presence in two locations.
Then, the personal secretary of the Executor, Katrina Oniseki, answers the question,
Katrina Oniseki wrote: The Intaki economy is more stable now than it ever was before, with active market competition and a steady supply and market of capsuleer goods in both Intaki and Agoze. Furthermore, I-RED has not completely left Intaki to its own devices. ... We have abandoned nothing in Intaki. ... The only I-RED activity which has all but ceased in the Placid region are our regular security patrols.
So, the claim is that the operations in Intaki continue as before. Research on the status of the local markets does not support this claim,
Bastian Valoron wrote: I did some research on the current status of the markets in the relevant trade hubs and I could not find any orders up by anyone employed by I-RED. This of course does not prove that the claims made are lies but it does cast doubt on their veracity.
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Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
38
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:16:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki confirms this suspicion, tries to silence the questions with a reference to a past bribing attempt and makes a threat of violence:
Katrina Oniseki wrote: When your organization was but a fledgling alliance, already besieged by forces that sought your destruction; I-RED extended an offer to not only advise you on proper combat tactics but also fight for you at no cost or contract. ... I ask you to take a moment and reconsider your insulting and hostile stance against those who perhaps considered you friends.
Taisa Develon steps in and reveals something interesting about I-RED's corporate decision making process.
Simca Develon wrote: I would first like to state that Katrina and I did pressure Taisho Revenent to help you.
Finally, she repeats the threat of violence,
Simca Develon wrote: We neither need nor want fair weather friends, but we'll see which type you turn out to be soon enough.
Thus, M Khross, I would like to ask you whether you consider these business practices honorable? Does Wiyrkomi threaten its investors with violence? Is it honorable if a megacorporation uses its investors money to advance some ominous "friendship" agenda instead of providing a good return for the investment?
And no, I'm not claiming to have or have not invested in this business venture. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
296
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:32:00 -
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Frankly, Mr. Valoron, I think these posts are proving nothing other than that you suffer from paranoid schizophrenia or that you actually have simply taken to heart what I accused you of. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
243
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:45:00 -
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Do you actually read what you write or just type it out and hope it sounds coherent, Valoron?
"Past bribing attempt?" They offered to defend you at zero cost, sounds like solid bribery to me.
You consider it odd that a CEO might actually listen to his employees from time to time? I thought "freedom of democracy" was built upon that very concept. I would have thought you'd applause this form of communal discussion instead of just ironfisted tyrannical rule.
"Threat of violence" because they don't want to waste their efforts, resources and time on someone who is going to disappear the moment things get dicey? Did you actually read anything you quoted or did you just read what you wanted to read?
The statements made by Taisho Revenent and his subordinate Korsavius are not exclusive. One says that they've shifted their focus while the other says they will continue to help the Placid Region. Just because they no longer focus on the Placid does not mean they've abandoned it.
Have you stopped to consider that I-RED did and does more than sell things in Placid space? I highly doubt they'd have had quite the cooperation from the ILF and others in the area if they were only there for profit.
In short, you've proven nothing except that you got this, entirely wrong:
Bastian Valoron wrote:Dear M Khross, you are making unfounded assumptions about my motivations. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon WHG Recruitment Video |
Valdezi
Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
38
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:13:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote: Consider that you came to I-RED's new declaration with malicious intent and sparked a debate while I-RED came to your inaugural announcement with well-wishes.
And here is the salient point. Chancellor Valoron came picking a fight and then cried foul when a fight came his way. This kind of moral cowardice reflects very poorly on the FCO, an organisation which presented a better front under its former leader. |
Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
38
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:24:00 -
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Yes, in bribery something is indeed offered for zero cost, in order to have leverage over the beneficiary.
Anyhow, as I have shown, all my claims have been confirmed by the people involved. You can stop making excuses now, M Khross.
Valdezi wrote: And here is the salient point. Chancellor Valoron came picking a fight and then cried foul when a fight came his way.
Could you elaborate? I have just asked a couple of simple questions which should have been easy to answer. |
Jev North
Anshar Incorporated
61
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:37:00 -
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Bastian Valoron wrote:Yes, in bribery something is indeed offered for zero cost, in order to have leverage over the beneficiary. Well, usually a bribe is offered in order to incentivize someone to do something for you. There's a certain leverage aspect to it, yes.. if the bribe is illicit, and the beneficiary accepts it. Has accepting that sort of bribe become such a habit you skipped right over those little details, or are you just trying to blur the lines between a sense of obligation after receiving a gift, and criminal behaviour?
Yes, rhetorical question.
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