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Somal Thunder
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.21 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Somal Thunder on 21/09/2009 01:36:10 I'm told it's allowed, and according to this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=924060&page=1
People have already inquired about it. Generally people say that CCP have said destroyers are allowed but most people in local seem to disagree, we need to set these rules in stone.
Can we please get CCP confirmation on this?
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bassie12bf1
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Posted - 2009.09.21 07:35:00 -
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Aren't destroyers just like frigs with more guns? And I also think they are much easier to hit.
I would say allow them in FFA 5.
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Sajeera
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Posted - 2009.09.21 07:45:00 -
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Destroyers are frigate hulls and of course they are allowed in FFA5.
Destroyers are far from being instant win against other frigates so i don't understand why somebody will want them removed from the area.
FFA5 must be renamed to galente frigate area imo, only taranises and ishkurs looking for easy kills there.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.21 09:23:00 -
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Considering how often a lone T2 destroyer is left in FFA 5 surrounded by wrecks I'd say they shouldn't be allowed. Not my call, and I don't feel all that strongly about it, it just seems to make ffa5 a bit redundant for people who want to test *only* frigates (a destroyer is not a frigate, it is a destroyer). Throw in another FFA for frigs & destroyers.
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Sajeera
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Posted - 2009.09.21 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Considering how often a lone T2 destroyer is left in FFA 5 surrounded by wrecks I'd say they shouldn't be allowed. Not my call, and I don't feel all that strongly about it, it just seems to make ffa5 a bit redundant for people who want to test *only* frigates (a destroyer is not a frigate, it is a destroyer). Throw in another FFA for frigs & destroyers.
Hmmm, interceptors and assault ships are not frigates too by this logic?
And what you mean by "T2 destroyer" btw? Destroyers are just T2 variants of some frigates as far as i know.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.21 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sajeera
Originally by: Avon Considering how often a lone T2 destroyer is left in FFA 5 surrounded by wrecks I'd say they shouldn't be allowed. Not my call, and I don't feel all that strongly about it, it just seems to make ffa5 a bit redundant for people who want to test *only* frigates (a destroyer is not a frigate, it is a destroyer). Throw in another FFA for frigs & destroyers.
Hmmm, interceptors and assault ships are not frigates too by this logic?
And what you mean by "T2 destroyer" btw? Destroyers are just T2 variants of some frigates as far as i know.
No, destroyers are a seperate class, with interdictors being the T2 variants of destroyers.
Yes interceptors, assault ships, stealth bombers, covert ops, electronic attack ships and even the mighty rifter are all frigates and should be at ffa5 .. destroyers however, imho, should not.
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Sajeera
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Posted - 2009.09.21 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
No, destroyers are a seperate class, with interdictors being the T2 variants of destroyers.
Yes interceptors, assault ships, stealth bombers, covert ops, electronic attack ships and even the mighty rifter are all frigates and should be at ffa5 .. destroyers however, imho, should not.
Can't continue this without to insult your knowledge about the game so ill leave it here, however expect people after me to get really harsh on this quote.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.21 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sajeera
Can't continue this without to insult your knowledge about the game so ill leave it here, however expect people after me to get really harsh on this quote.
What are you basing that on? That destroyers use frigate size modules?
Battlecruisers use cruiser size modules, but that doesn't make them cruisers, does it?
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.09.21 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sajeera
Originally by: Avon
No, destroyers are a seperate class, with interdictors being the T2 variants of destroyers.
Yes interceptors, assault ships, stealth bombers, covert ops, electronic attack ships and even the mighty rifter are all frigates and should be at ffa5 .. destroyers however, imho, should not.
Can't continue this without to insult your knowledge about the game so ill leave it here, however expect people after me to get really harsh on this quote.
Don't worry, I'll be rude for you.
Seriously, thinking that destroyers are frigates? Don't be ridiculous. Are battlecruisers cruisers? No. And so destroyers aren't frigates, they're.... duh... destroyers.
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Tlamy
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Posted - 2009.09.21 21:10:00 -
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It would be nice if we could get a response from CCP, I've been wanting to test destroyers for a while now.
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Somal Thunder
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.25 12:16:00 -
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Still waiting for a response from CCP...
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Kralin Ignatov
Mentis Fidelis
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Posted - 2009.09.25 12:44:00 -
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Are destroyers frigates? No. But, to be simple, the other posters here have not offered a solution.
To test Battlecruisers, there is a special room for that, FFA 3. There is not, however, a special room for "Destroyers and below", and I believe it is unreasonable to tell destroyer pilots to stfu and go to FFA 4, where they will get graped by Recons, Hacs, and T3 repeatedly.
For this reason, I believe they are allowed in FFA 5. I have never had any problem fighting a Destroyer, or for that matter a Dictor. Let the Destroying continue.
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paddytehpyro
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.09.25 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Sajeera
Can't continue this without to insult your knowledge about the game so ill leave it here, however expect people after me to get really harsh on this quote.
What are you basing that on? That destroyers use frigate size modules?
Battlecruisers use cruiser size modules, but that doesn't make them cruisers, does it?
This imo
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Firefox Hairtail
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Posted - 2009.09.25 21:47:00 -
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I heard someone say on sisi that destroyers require Frigate Construction V to be built, therefore they are frigates... That was the most epic win sentence I've heard all day!
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.09.25 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Firefox Hairtail I heard someone say on sisi that destroyers require Frigate Construction V to be built, therefore they are frigates... That was the most epic win sentence I've heard all day!
Large T2 pulse lasers require small energy turret V therefore large pulses are small pulses
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Firefox Hairtail
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Posted - 2009.09.26 14:03:00 -
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Actually, he was right...
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.09.26 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Sajeera
Originally by: Avon
No, destroyers are a seperate class, with interdictors being the T2 variants of destroyers.
Yes interceptors, assault ships, stealth bombers, covert ops, electronic attack ships and even the mighty rifter are all frigates and should be at ffa5 .. destroyers however, imho, should not.
Can't continue this without to insult your knowledge about the game so ill leave it here, however expect people after me to get really harsh on this quote.
Don't worry, I'll be rude for you.
Seriously, thinking that destroyers are frigates? Don't be ridiculous. Are battlecruisers cruisers? No. And so destroyers aren't frigates, they're.... duh... destroyers.
That doesn't matter. Dessie's are still allowed in with the frigates. I can think of a few reasons e.g. the disparity between frigs and cruisers is not as vast as cruisers and bc's, however i'd say it comes down to this..
If they made a destroyer ffa, it would barely be used, hell the bc one isn't that popular either.. EVE Trivia EVE History
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Cain m
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.09.27 22:24:00 -
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Its clearly not allowed.
a) beacon name - "Frigates Only" Destroyers are frigate hunters, not frigates. ceptors/covops/af are frigate class. b) That 2008 thread is moot. At the time the beacon's name was frigate/destroyer ffa.
Originally by: YouDoNotOwnSalvage You do not in any way shape or form own salvage.
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N Ano
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Posted - 2009.09.27 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sajeera
Originally by: Avon
No, destroyers are a seperate class, with interdictors being the T2 variants of destroyers.
Yes interceptors, assault ships, stealth bombers, covert ops, electronic attack ships and even the mighty rifter are all frigates and should be at ffa5 .. destroyers however, imho, should not.
Can't continue this without to insult your knowledge about the game so ill leave it here, however expect people after me to get really harsh on this quote.
You should just stop right there. destroyers are NOT t2 frigates they are not frigates. they are destroyers its a whole different class. As far as im concerned I couldnt care less about whether they are allowed in ffa5 or not
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.09.28 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: Terra Mikael on 28/09/2009 07:14:20 I'm going to pour like 2000isk on a destroyer and go park at ffa5 tonight in protest of frigate pilots thinking they pwn all the ffa5.
We don't have an FFA, so we're taking yours. fight for it or gtfo
edit: fyi: testing destroyers involves killing frigates lolololol
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DARTHxFREE
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.09.28 11:47:00 -
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Destroyers are anti-frig class, they suck at everything else (cept salvaging)
So if Destroyers are not aloud in FFA5 what are they ment to do? practice salvaging in FFA1?
Any ways I to have experianced this dilema, I sat in FFA5 at 200km (admitingly using 2x arty thrasher acounts) and wooped so many frigates they *****ed like a girl in local...what went wrong here?
Destroyers are SLOW, to fly 200km to my 2x Thrasher to get wooped was the FRIGATE pilots error.
Conclusion: Destroyers must be aloud in FFA5, and any casualty of a Destroyer is thier own fault as they have full dictation as to avoid/fight. /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Somal Thunder
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.03 13:23:00 -
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After asking about 20 Devs, GM's and other red-tagged people, I finally found someone who told me an answer that didn't include "ask him" right at the end. Destroyers ARE allowed in FFA 5 until the GM's tell us to stop. THEY WILL LET US KNOW if this changes! Source: CCP personnel at fanfest
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el Sabor
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Posted - 2009.10.03 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: el Sabor on 03/10/2009 14:07:07 this question was recently asked and it was confirmed that destroyers are NOT allowed in FFA5. Just last week too. See This thread.
The big red text burns my eyes.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.10.03 14:20:00 -
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Since your so called "fact" is based on hear say I would recommend you follow that which has been replied in written form
Originally by: CCP Casqade Hi all,
Destroyer class ships are not allowed in the Frigate class FFAs. They are however allowed in the Crusier FFAs since all FFAs are meant to be "<Class> and below".
Frigate = all ships based on the frigate class hulls. Destroyers are not based on the frigate class hulls, therefore they may not go into the Frigate FFA, but they are allowed into the Cruiser FFA.
This means that you have (Unless I'm forgetting something):
Capital ships Battleships Battlecruisers Mining Barges Cruisers Destroyers Industrials Frigates
I hope this explains everything.
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sHERU
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Posted - 2009.10.03 19:20:00 -
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Test server whining.... serious business.
It's like a bunch of teenage morons on a school playground nagging the teachers about fair play with marbles.
Go actually test ***** ****** and write feedback/bugreports. |
Eve Spair
Caldari Curaursi
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Posted - 2009.10.04 00:43:00 -
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have a look at this dev response please.
destroyers are not frigates and arent allowed in FFA5
Originally by: CCP Casqade Hi all,
Destroyer class ships are not allowed in the Frigate class FFAs. They are however allowed in the Crusier FFAs since all FFAs are meant to be "<Class> and below".
Frigate = all ships based on the frigate class hulls. Destroyers are not based on the frigate class hulls, therefore they may not go into the Frigate FFA, but they are allowed into the Cruiser FFA.
This means that you have (Unless I'm forgetting something):
Capital ships Battleships Battlecruisers Mining Barges Cruisers Destroyers Industrials Frigates
I hope this explains everything.
link: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1184077
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Matthew97
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.04 09:47:00 -
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You sir, Are a troll.....
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0racle
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2009.10.04 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: 0racle on 04/10/2009 14:28:49
Originally by: Somal Thunder Edited by: Somal Thunder on 03/10/2009 13:22:46 I'm told it's allowed, and according to this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=924060&page=1
People have already inquired about it. Generally people say that CCP have said destroyers are allowed but most people in local seem to disagree, we need to set these rules in stone.
Can we please get CCP confirmation on this?
Let it be made clear that Destroyer action in FFA 5 will NOT cease until CCP responds!
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EDIT: After asking about 20 Devs, GM's and other red-tagged people, I finally found someone who told me an answer that didn't include "ask him" right at the end. Destroyers ARE allowed in FFA 5 until the GM's tell us to stop. THEY WILL LET US KNOW if this changes! Source: CCP personnel at fanfest
Please note I was asked not to record the conversation, so I do not have records of this.
Linkage
Check it out.
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Janjan Jansen
Amarr Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2009.10.09 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Janjan Jansen on 09/10/2009 09:16:15 I've looked at the time stamps and it seems to me Fanfest happened after 29/09/2009. So guess what the OP is right :)
edit: spelling
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CCP Oneiromancer
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Posted - 2009.10.09 09:49:00 -
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We have created a new FFA beacon for destroyers and below in FD-MLJ. FFA5 should only be used by frigates.
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