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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:07:00 -
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CCP, this is getting silly. I recently jumped into the new open part of dust, the home space. And you know what I found? I found Walking in stations. They even have the Slay minigame in there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18A
This **** was finished 3 years ago. Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max, and play it? I mean hell even just stick Slay into CQ and let us join other players in their CQ. I don't care anymore. It's been 3 years waiting for you to come out with WiS.
The work is done isn't it? And I'm not mad or anything, just... confused. CCP has never really laid down what happen. How we went from a fully working demo, which i got the chance to play at fanfest 3 years ago, to the worst expansion of all time. And it's really awesome that slay is in dust already, it's fun that anyone can play it already in the E3 space, and I love it because it brings gambling over in game assets into the eve universe in a more official way.
Whatever, point is, can't you guys at CCP throw us a bone? Give us a little update on what happen in the last 3 years? Why it released so puny, why you can't get two people in the same room? What the plan is moving forward? Fanfest had nothing to say about WiS.
I think the 1st dev blog about WiS was 5 years ago. I love eve, and I do enjoy getting into it once in a while. But waiting for WiS has always got me logging off. I know that sounds crazy, but I played it at fanfest and the potenal was staggering. All i ask for is a break down of what happen, and where we go from here. It just.. feel like all of the work for WiS must allready be done and your just sitting on it. Which is fine but I'd like to hear why it's not out yet from CCP, and not from countless rumors on the forums.
Was it really that you held it all back to release NeX? if so that feature is the devil. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:24:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:the plan is that we will be able to mingle with the dusters in stations... and have starwars type meetings to hire mecenaries face to face.
exactly, plus dust will be a part of 0.0 warfare. you can sell to dust players, and join the same corps and alliances. you can play dust, to make isk, to transfer to your eve account, to buy your eve account a plex to play eve for free. Anyone that doesn't want dust and eve to be the same game obviously should quit now, nothing is going to stop this from coming. DUST IS EVE.
but again, it's all rumors, i don't care either way, I just want to hear CCP SAY SOMETHING. anything really.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:27:00 -
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1st walking in stations video was shown ... 7 years ago... Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:34:00 -
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Spineker wrote:DUST is not EVE. Wrong
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.Wrong
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.Wrong
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.Only in your little small unimaginative world. We don't live there with you.
That's your opinion. but sadly, You're living in a fantasy world. Why ignore the truth you really think ignoring it is going to somehow make it not happen? It's already happening. You won't be able to play eve without playing dust anymore. unless you just want to solo missions in low sec.
Every planet in low sec will let Dust mercs build weapons to shoot eve players. So if you are doing PI you better be ready.
Other rumors point towards tech 3 weapons in eve being directly created from dust only stuff. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:08:00 -
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Erinn Sylvanus wrote:I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.
I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.
THIS
also posting this unrelated to your post. but still cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fDEuMqsS6c
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:10:00 -
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AFK Hauler wrote:What happened to nondisclosure?
Required tag- SPOILER ALERT!!!
it's not part of beta. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:17:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max The idea that you need graphical representations of your character in order to roleplay is hilariously patronising. You realise that roleplayers have been managing in the pre-WiS version of Eve that existed since 2003, right? You realise there are people who roleplay with nothing more than a handful of funny shaped dice and a pencil and paper, right? If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your character in an empty room with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.
so you'd be ok with In space combat without a graphical representation of spaceships and space? Because trust me me and my friends can role play a space ship Pen and paper game without playing eve. Eve could be a text based games with just the overview and the solar system map.
Are you really saying video games don't need graphics to be fun? seriously?
ok next time you feel like playing eve just sit in bed, close your eyes, and use your imagination!
If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your space ship in spce with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:36:00 -
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Dalmont Delantee wrote:1) WiS needs a lot of work that we _all_ protested about to stop so they could fix FiS 2) DUST graphics engine and back code is _not_ EVE graphics engine and back code - One of the reasons we are getting lots of UI updates is not only to fix crap back also to allow easier merging of FiS with WiS (my view not blogged or anything) 3) WiS will take up more Resource we've only just taken back from the other projects, we'll get proper WiS once WoD is closer to completion (again my reading between the lines)
(Don't know the abreviations read some past posts - theres a search function now)
Overall, WiS is a nice to have not an essential, now go mine me some minerals biatch :P
but none of what you said is something CCP said. it's all player rumors.
I'm happy they put off WiS, you don;t understand, I just want to hear CCPs TEN YEAR PLAN
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:58:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:ok i get it eve was going to be ftp hence wis but then we all emoed about wis so they scrapped wis... now they use it for dust... poor us i would have liked to play eve for free...
seeing as dust will come to PC at some point, and both EVE and dust are going to share WiS 100%. You will be able to play eve for free. You will just have to pay to undock into space. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:10:00 -
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Excuse me but can I please get this moved up to someone higher than you, nothing in my post was under NDA. The E3 Dust space is 100% open to the public. It has a muli-player game named Slay. Is does not need a beta key to play, or access.
It is a 100% out of beta released feature in Playstation home and I respectably ask you to return my post to it's original content. The PSN forums are talking about this stuff and they aren't getting censored.
Are you saying we can't discuss information released at E3 publicly? did I sign an NDA to watch E3? Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:24:00 -
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Guess I'll break the NDA some more. If you watch the videos in Home on dust, and you win a game of slay you'll get a beta key. So my post is so outside an NDA breach it's almost hilarious. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:17:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:MotherMoon wrote:CCP, this is getting silly. I recently jumped into the new-----Edit------NDA Violation-----|ISD Tyrozan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18AThis **** was finished 3 years ago. Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max, and play it? I mean hell even just stick Slay into CQ and let us join other players in their CQ. I don't care anymore. It's been 3 years waiting for you to come out with WiS. The work is done isn't it? And I'm not mad or anything, just... confused. CCP has never really laid down what happen. How we went from a fully working demo, which i got the chance to play at fanfest 3 years ago, to the worst expansion of all time. -----Edit-----Sentence removed as NDA violation.
Whatever, point is, can't you guys at CCP throw us a bone? Give us a little update on what happen in the last 3 years? Why it released so puny, why you can't get two people in the same room? What the plan is moving forward? Fanfest had nothing to say about WiS. I think the 1st dev blog about WiS was 5 years ago. I love eve, and I do enjoy getting into it once in a while. But waiting for WiS has always got me logging off. I know that sounds crazy, but I played it at fanfest and the potenal was staggering. All i ask for is a break down of what happen, and where we go from here. It just.. feel like all of the work for WiS must allready be done and your just sitting on it. Which is fine but I'd like to hear why it's not out yet from CCP, and not from countless rumors on the forums. Was it really that you held it all back to release NeX? if so that feature is the devil. BUSTED Nice... NDA violation... great way to lose yer account lol
nothing i said was under NDA, this is silly, and now my email seems to be ignored. whatever, if CCP doesn't want people to know there is a gaint dust 514 ad in ps home as of today, then that's their problem. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:23:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures. YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3.
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:34:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures. YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3. Yeah, that's fair, we pay to play EVE and PS3 players play for free and they get WiS. Nice CCP.
WiS stations better be released F2P on PC. But what do i know, maybe if CCP actually laid out the roadmap we wouldn't have to sit around trying to figure out whats going on. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:19:00 -
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I've already put the content that was removed back into the OP. in the form of a public CCP quote. so lets see them take it down now. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:36:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Quote:Next, starting this week as a part of SonyGÇÖs Virtual E3 experience, DUST 514 will be fully integrated into PlayStation Home. Our DUST 514 Home Space is a great way for you to get up close and personal with the New Eden universe, and weGÇÖre really proud of how itGÇÖs turned out. Its a War Barge cantina in the EVE Universe, you can learn about the history of New Eden, hang out, earn awesome stuff like companions and armor for Home, play multiplayer Slay GÇô the incredible strategic board game GÇô and much more. In addition, weGÇÖre very excited to let you know that we are making available a wave of 10,000 GÇ£All AccessGÇ¥ Closed Beta invites that visitors to the DUST 514 Home Space can earn by completing all the activities inside, with access to all the DUST 514 Beta events over the summer. So hurry and get yours before theyGÇÖre gone! That said, the DUST 514 Space will remain live, and new content will be added, so Home users can definitely look forward to additional Beta keys to be distributed through the DUST 514 Home Space in the future. God damnit? Seriously, they get this cool ****? All we got was a freaking closet to walk around in? right?
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:57:00 -
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0ccupy 4-4 wrote:I'd prefer if they launched it as a broken mess in it's entirety, at least then they would feel some compunction to do something. Something of substance with WiS, not infinite inventory iterations, what's next honestly? Redoing jet can mechanics for the winter expansion? It feels like they're content to let EVE stagnate as the reiterate the most inconsequential parts of it.
i disagree, but at the same time feel like they should releasing something. Since the work must be done. There should be a way to keep up working on core eve and abandoned features, while giving us what they finished. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:06:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:Carbon turned into Incarna which was universally hated and subscriptions took a massive dive until CCP started to refocus on non-WIS gameplay.
but that's not what happened. People hating getting a single room after waiting so long, and they hated the NeX store. The greed of ccps newsletter, "greed is good" combined with only having a single room, and only minmatar, with badighting, and ****** animations.
People still want WiS, but a small number of players have been acting like this was WiS's fault. To try to steer eve away from having walking avatars. Well sorry buddy but the majority of gamers still want WiS, and the anger at CCPs greed for making WiS some kind of cash grab badly lit single room led to a lot of rage.
If WiS had be released, and it wasn't ****, it would not of had people protesting. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.08 06:02:00 -
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more than that, every single new trailer has pod pilots walking around.... Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.08 23:32:00 -
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Posting video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52FYhyla9EA Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.09 00:00:00 -
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Tao Arnst wrote:Tobey Darkness wrote:Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
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Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore. Looking at the latest trailers from CCP I can say that this is not the case anymore. CCP is clearly stating that this is the direction they want to go. Their vision for Eve Online. I like walking in stations and so do hundreds of other players. ccp can't even get these latest "releases" right. My question is why a confused little boy using a female avatar would want something like 'dust'?
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Posted - 2012.06.09 00:03:00 -
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oh snap, that was a pretty witty remark. you must be some kind of pro troll. how will I ever deal with a shut in who insults people over the internet Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.09 00:12:00 -
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Tao Arnst wrote:Just post what your hoping to get out of a imvu like environment. You wanna watch your pixie azz getting hit on by other confused little boys?
well I want to be able to hire dust mercs to burst down peoples doors while they make a deal over some illegal goods and shoot them in the face.
I want to undock to explore asteroid dungeons, and if my ship is destroyed outside, while I'm inside I want the only way home to be through the barrel of my my own gun.
I want to meet the dust mercs face to face, and play a game of texas hold'em to determine if they get my services, or if I'll be bombarding them from orbit. Make them pay me either way.
I want to look out the window to check up on the station camp outside.
I want to be a pilot, playing a video game where my ships are just toys i don't care if they get blown up.
I want to endlessly troll people by blocking them into corners.
I want to watch dust 514 matches on a big screen *already promised feature* and bet with other people over who will win, even if the people on the ground don't know we are watching, and covertly call in backup from space to turn the tide when my bet is going south.
I want to play arcade cabinets, bust skulls in bar fights.
I want to meet people in person who check out our local corp recruitment area, convincing people to join through somethign other than a right click menu full of spreadsheets.
Tao Arnst wrote:MotherMoon wrote:oh snap, that was a pretty witty remark. you must be some kind of pro troll. how will I ever deal with a shut in who insults people over the internet If required, I'd prefer to insult them to their face...
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Posted - 2012.06.09 00:52:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:MotherMoon wrote: I want to be a pilot, playing a video game where my ships are just toys i don't care if they get blown up. ]
nah, At a bar terminal, Loadout a Dust fit several mil heavy drone tank or fighter in an arena match and fight other players drones in a battlebots like competition that can be bet on by dusters and capsulars. While in another part of the bar people are betting and watching Dusters kill each other in a Slayer type gladiatorial arena match.
While what you said is awesome I think I gave the wring idea.
By being able to walk around and shoot other pilots in stations, it seperates us from the ships. Now I figured it out 6 years ago, but newer players feel like losing a shop is the end if world. Purely immersion wise, losing a ship feels more replacable if and when our characters feel important out side of the shipn really make us feel like god, super rich badasses who don't care if a ship is lost becuase we are immortal.
I just meant that the ships shouldn't be important, we aren't ships.
But yes some kind of battle note game would be awesome. As long as its like that new robot fighting movie, where when you lose, your toy battle robot us broken. Eve needs more tears! MORE I SAY ! Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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Posted - 2012.06.09 00:54:00 -
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Tao Arnst wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Tao Arnst wrote: nuff said... you have the wrong game...
The concept of 'change' or 'progress' must confuse and infuriate you immensely. Wanna sit over here by the atrium? Maybe start a conversation? Share a story perhaps? Like why you so mad? Most people embrace GOOD change Parasites embrace BAD change dust is the same concept as imvu. Besides ccp already broke the ui, so their capabilities seem to be VERY limited, and if they continue to TRY and POLISH this broken ui with a year-long of so-called "updates", instead of just rolling back to the one that WORKED, then any real improvement is way beyond what they can do.
SO.... YOU JUST SAID... that imvu... Is the same as GTA...
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Posted - 2012.06.09 01:27:00 -
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Dust is BF... AND IT'S ALLREADY PLAYABLE. its not what I want, its what's allready happening.
How is dust like that game you mentioned when dust is full of faceless avatars with little to no customasation? Eve is going to be every game all in one , whether or not you it I want it. I just want to know the plan so its not barbie dolls or 2nd life Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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