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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:07:00 -
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CCP, this is getting silly. I recently jumped into the new open part of dust, the home space. And you know what I found? I found Walking in stations. They even have the Slay minigame in there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18A
This **** was finished 3 years ago. Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max, and play it? I mean hell even just stick Slay into CQ and let us join other players in their CQ. I don't care anymore. It's been 3 years waiting for you to come out with WiS.
The work is done isn't it? And I'm not mad or anything, just... confused. CCP has never really laid down what happen. How we went from a fully working demo, which i got the chance to play at fanfest 3 years ago, to the worst expansion of all time. And it's really awesome that slay is in dust already, it's fun that anyone can play it already in the E3 space, and I love it because it brings gambling over in game assets into the eve universe in a more official way.
Whatever, point is, can't you guys at CCP throw us a bone? Give us a little update on what happen in the last 3 years? Why it released so puny, why you can't get two people in the same room? What the plan is moving forward? Fanfest had nothing to say about WiS.
I think the 1st dev blog about WiS was 5 years ago. I love eve, and I do enjoy getting into it once in a while. But waiting for WiS has always got me logging off. I know that sounds crazy, but I played it at fanfest and the potenal was staggering. All i ask for is a break down of what happen, and where we go from here. It just.. feel like all of the work for WiS must allready be done and your just sitting on it. Which is fine but I'd like to hear why it's not out yet from CCP, and not from countless rumors on the forums.
Was it really that you held it all back to release NeX? if so that feature is the devil. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Khoda Khan
Zantiu-Braun Corporation Zantiu-Braun Alliance
32
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:15:00 -
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DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1668
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:16:00 -
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We have SPACESHIPS. Why in all of New Eden do you want to walk? It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
208
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:18:00 -
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the plan is that we will be able to mingle with the dusters in stations... and have starwars type meetings to hire mecenaries face to face. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
142
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:23:00 -
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We need to be able to interact with the Dust players when it goes live or a great opportunity will be lost.
If we can all walk on the same stations and play some mini-games it will bind the two games into the EVE universe and encourage cross-over between the two parts of it.
If it doesn't happen then we will just have two separate games, there will be no "universe" and a great opportunity will be lost. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
777
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:24:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:the plan is that we will be able to mingle with the dusters in stations... and have starwars type meetings to hire mecenaries face to face.
exactly, plus dust will be a part of 0.0 warfare. you can sell to dust players, and join the same corps and alliances. you can play dust, to make isk, to transfer to your eve account, to buy your eve account a plex to play eve for free. Anyone that doesn't want dust and eve to be the same game obviously should quit now, nothing is going to stop this from coming. DUST IS EVE.
but again, it's all rumors, i don't care either way, I just want to hear CCP SAY SOMETHING. anything really.
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Andre Jean Sarpantis
University of Caille Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:24:00 -
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Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Sorry it's NOT against EVE lore.....at the very beginning all pilots were manevering their ships like the other mortals or call them nonpods until Jove brougth the Capsule technologie to the Caldaris.
Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods ( the to implementing smuggling thingie ) and other stuff....if you don#t want to get out of your pod you are free to stay there until the Universe esplodes.....on the other hand...Eve won't be a complete SciFi Simulation without WiS and CCP told since years they want Eve to be a complete SciFi SImulation so Avatars ( Bodies ) will have to get implemented, Like it or l-¦dislike it your choice....but CCP definitely will Complete this feature until they got it working.
Sincerly
Andre Jean Sarpantis (Roleplayed Nephew from the Serpentis founder ) |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
777
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:27:00 -
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1st walking in stations video was shown ... 7 years ago... Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
benji linus
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:29:00 -
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does this mean WiS is finally coming to eve?
i've waited for so long, my dreams come true... |
Spineker
207
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:30:00 -
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DUST is not EVE. Wrong
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.Wrong
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.Wrong
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.Only in your little small unimaginative world. We don't live there with you. |
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
583
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:32:00 -
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Those Dust bunnies are sooo gonna get bombarded for this... Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Rakan Stenier-Tian
Gladiators Vanguard New Eden Arena
2
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:34:00 -
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Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
What good is being immortal if you don't get to enjoy it ? Trapped forever alone in a little pod. No food , no drink , no companionship. You call that living ? You call that godhood ? A standard emperyan would go mad after year if he or she couldn't get out of that pod every once in awhile .
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
777
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:34:00 -
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Spineker wrote:DUST is not EVE. Wrong
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.Wrong
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.Wrong
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.Only in your little small unimaginative world. We don't live there with you.
That's your opinion. but sadly, You're living in a fantasy world. Why ignore the truth you really think ignoring it is going to somehow make it not happen? It's already happening. You won't be able to play eve without playing dust anymore. unless you just want to solo missions in low sec.
Every planet in low sec will let Dust mercs build weapons to shoot eve players. So if you are doing PI you better be ready.
Other rumors point towards tech 3 weapons in eve being directly created from dust only stuff. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7726
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:34:00 -
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Nah. Dust has about as much walking as EVE does.
Most of Dust is running around with your hair on fire. Speed-tanking ftw. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Orravan
Anomalie
0
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:41:00 -
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Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
(...)
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
You're invoking the game' lore, but it looks like you didn't read the numerous official stories and chronicles published since 2003 actually setting the EVE lore. Else you'd know that capsulers indeed got out of their capsules, met people in stations for a lot of reasons, and that it's a perfectly normal behaviour for a pod pilot.
And really, numerous they are, as much as rich in details and explanations on the universe you're playing in. |
marVLs
13
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:42:00 -
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+1 for WIS, gimme gimme gimme |
Erinn Sylvanus
NovaTech Universal Intersteller Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:43:00 -
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I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.
I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
745
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:45:00 -
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in dust you can walk on planets why shouldn't you be able to walk in stations? a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
LittleTerror
18
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:47:00 -
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Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
So the evolution of eve stopped there did it?
Who are you to say that walking in stations has nothing to do with eve? |
Khoda Khan
Zantiu-Braun Corporation Zantiu-Braun Alliance
32
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:48:00 -
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Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:Sorry it's NOT against EVE lore.....at the very beginning all pilots were manevering their ships like the other mortals or call them nonpods until Jove brougth the Capsule technologie to the Caldaris.
What CCP wanted was to provide a testbed for tech related to DUST 514 avatars and more specifically for World of Darkness development. Anyone who thinks that Incarna had ANYTHING to do with EVE aside from fuctioning as a testbed for other projects and as a method of introducing microtransactions into a game that is played via monthly subscriptions is simply delusional. Incarna and WiS had nothing to do with "making EVE a complete scifi simulation".
As for the lore, it's pretty well established by CCP's own chronicles and books that pod pilots do not like extricating themselves from their pod. Because every ability and advantage is stripped away. They become, for lack of a better phrase, human. They become mortal. Mortals who are both worshipped AND despised. The typical pod pilot, even a "young" one has killed hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people. And the one thing that they have as protection against the masses -- their ship and their immortality -- is stripped away from them.
Now if you want to roleplay a commoner, some little peon of no significance, and that's what pod pilots think of anyone else who ISN'T a god, that's fine. But don't say the role you wish to play is keeping with EVE lore, because it's not.
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods ( the to implementing smuggling thingie ) and other stuff....
Strange. I find that anything I need to do I can do without ever leaving my ship. Now if CCP wants to ADD things that require a pod pilot to leave their pod, then that's their perogative. Still isn't in keeping with their own lore. Just an addition to get someone out of their pod into the WiS environment so the nex store becomes more useful, and thus more likely to be used. CCP has no problems with convincing people like you that you want/need to do something in order to increase their profits, and ignore their own lore in the process.
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:if you don#t want to get out of your pod you are free to stay there until the Universe esplodes.....on the other hand...Eve won't be a complete SciFi Simulation without WiS and CCP told since years they want Eve to be a complete SciFi SImulation so Avatars ( Bodies ) will have to get implemented, Like it or l-¦dislike it your choice....but CCP definitely will Complete this feature until they got it working.
EVE is a complete "simulation". Has been since before Incarna's release. Spaceships. In space. Doing stuff. Incarna , and all the time spent developing it, actually damaged the simulation by moving the focus away from what the "simulation" is all about.
Also, just to reiterate, WiS has nothing to do with EVE. |
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Dyvim Slorm
MNU Operations Luna Sanguinem
28
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:49:00 -
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Erinn Sylvanus wrote:I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.
I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.
I'm not that much into WiS, but it would be pretty amazing if in a wardec you dock at a station and have a firefight with the war targets. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
365
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:51:00 -
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indeed you cant run in station right? i remember ccp saying somethign that running in station is silly PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
345
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:51:00 -
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What happened to nondisclosure?
Required tag- SPOILER ALERT!!!
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Khoda Khan
Zantiu-Braun Corporation Zantiu-Braun Alliance
32
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:58:00 -
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Also... I would fully support WiS if we are given a means to do grave bodily harm to other players while on station. And only if death is then permanent. The ability to permanently kill off a character would be brilliant. It would give the true feeling of what it would be like for a pilot to leave his pod.
Of course, no one would then use WiS, except mobs of griefers hanging around the concourse avatar spawn points waiting to beat down every hapless avatar that spawned. (Sounds kind of like the typical gate camp, come to think of it.) Nowhere in EVE should be safe, and dying on a station should be permanent.
That, I could get behind. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
780
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:08:00 -
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Erinn Sylvanus wrote:I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.
I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.
THIS
also posting this unrelated to your post. but still cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fDEuMqsS6c
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
780
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:10:00 -
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AFK Hauler wrote:What happened to nondisclosure?
Required tag- SPOILER ALERT!!!
it's not part of beta. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
448
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:12:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max That sure sounds an exciting and worthwhile use of the Carbon engine! Sitting quietly in a room with other people!
The idea that you need graphical representations of your character in order to roleplay is hilariously patronising. You realise that roleplayers have been managing in the pre-WiS version of Eve that existed since 2003, right? You realise there are people who roleplay with nothing more than a handful of funny shaped dice and a pencil and paper, right?
If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your character in an empty room with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
780
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:17:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max The idea that you need graphical representations of your character in order to roleplay is hilariously patronising. You realise that roleplayers have been managing in the pre-WiS version of Eve that existed since 2003, right? You realise there are people who roleplay with nothing more than a handful of funny shaped dice and a pencil and paper, right? If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your character in an empty room with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you.
so you'd be ok with In space combat without a graphical representation of spaceships and space? Because trust me me and my friends can role play a space ship Pen and paper game without playing eve. Eve could be a text based games with just the overview and the solar system map.
Are you really saying video games don't need graphics to be fun? seriously?
ok next time you feel like playing eve just sit in bed, close your eyes, and use your imagination!
If you are so unimaginative that you can't roleplay without 3D graphics of your space ship in spce with others, maybe roleplay isn't the pastime for you. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Khadann
First Legion
30
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:18:00 -
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You can not expect CCP to release a proper WIS before another 2 years.
I mean, they can not put as many dev as they used to on this: Between the layoff and the fear of another hostage situation,hum i mean eve players leaving the game, they 'll think twitce before puting any hard ressources on WIS.
The few dev doing tatoos are just doing this cause the wis is dead for the moment, but it makes us believe that CCP is putting ressources in WIS, which is not the case.
Basically, CCP is putting it aside until some random video game company whish to buy ccp. Then this company will kill WIS and most probably Eve |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
187
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:19:00 -
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Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote: Also There are things you need to do outside your pod without having continually logged your doings while beeing in the pod....like as you want to trade sensual goods
I like your ideas! |
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