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EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:BUSTED
Nice... NDA violation... great way to lose yer account lol Too bad nothing of what he said was covered by the NDA.
I think they disagree
Hence the removed posts |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7735
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:14:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:I think they disagree
Hence the removed posts I think that neither the person reporting the post, nor the ISD, has read the Dust EULA or seen Dust in person (to say nothing of the public source of the OP's information).
Hence the silly mistake.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
782
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:17:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:MotherMoon wrote:CCP, this is getting silly. I recently jumped into the new-----Edit------NDA Violation-----|ISD Tyrozan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18AThis **** was finished 3 years ago. Can't you just give us a small room that us Roleplay people can just sit in, maybe 5 players max, and play it? I mean hell even just stick Slay into CQ and let us join other players in their CQ. I don't care anymore. It's been 3 years waiting for you to come out with WiS. The work is done isn't it? And I'm not mad or anything, just... confused. CCP has never really laid down what happen. How we went from a fully working demo, which i got the chance to play at fanfest 3 years ago, to the worst expansion of all time. -----Edit-----Sentence removed as NDA violation.
Whatever, point is, can't you guys at CCP throw us a bone? Give us a little update on what happen in the last 3 years? Why it released so puny, why you can't get two people in the same room? What the plan is moving forward? Fanfest had nothing to say about WiS. I think the 1st dev blog about WiS was 5 years ago. I love eve, and I do enjoy getting into it once in a while. But waiting for WiS has always got me logging off. I know that sounds crazy, but I played it at fanfest and the potenal was staggering. All i ask for is a break down of what happen, and where we go from here. It just.. feel like all of the work for WiS must allready be done and your just sitting on it. Which is fine but I'd like to hear why it's not out yet from CCP, and not from countless rumors on the forums. Was it really that you held it all back to release NeX? if so that feature is the devil. BUSTED Nice... NDA violation... great way to lose yer account lol
nothing i said was under NDA, this is silly, and now my email seems to be ignored. whatever, if CCP doesn't want people to know there is a gaint dust 514 ad in ps home as of today, then that's their problem. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Hermia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:18:00 -
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Adding another voice to WIS support.
I would have been happier if CCP just used Unreal Engine 4 and get content out quickly, but their perfectionism won the day. Carbon is great technology no doubt but 7 years later ...a room :( and now its on backburner.
When you do go back to it, please buy a book on psychology and realise the talk of "spaceships only please, dolls are for wussies" is elitists playing up to their peers. People want this!
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
782
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:23:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures. YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3.
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
488
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:25:00 -
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Hermia wrote:Adding another voice to WIS support.
I would have been happier if CCP just used Unreal Engine 4 and get content out quickly,
Whats sad is they mimicked EvE Avatars really well on the PSN home room. They may not be all flowy with fabric spreading and free moving hair meshes. Yet they looked like EvE avatars. |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
733
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:25:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures. YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3.
Yeah, that's fair, we pay to play EVE and PS3 players play for free and they get WiS. Nice CCP. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
783
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:34:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:So Dust players get what we should have gotten with Incarna? Figures. YUP, and it's out now, finally. but only if you own a PS3. Yeah, that's fair, we pay to play EVE and PS3 players play for free and they get WiS. Nice CCP.
WiS stations better be released F2P on PC. But what do i know, maybe if CCP actually laid out the roadmap we wouldn't have to sit around trying to figure out whats going on. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:52:00 -
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Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
I would bet half my money that you're one of those guys who makes up their own official lore and discard lore made by CCP because "it contradicts previous lore" about which no one has heard about.
Apart from that, the post is so ridicolous I'm not even caring to discuss about it. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:I think they disagree
Hence the removed posts I think that neither the person reporting the post, nor the ISD, has read the Dust EULA or seen Dust in person (to say nothing of the public source of the OP's information). Hence the silly mistake.
So then shouldnt the NDA redacted stuff be unredacted?
cause if it was fixed then, yes Id agree As its not, still doesnt look like they agree
MotherMoon wrote:
WiS stations better be released F2P on PC. But what do i know, maybe if CCP actually laid out the roadmap we wouldn't have to sit around trying to figure out whats going on.
lol WiS stations, only $300 (priced given the $80 monocle) |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7735
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:03:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:So then shouldnt the NDA redacted stuff be unredacted? Yes.
Quote:As its not, still doesnt look like they agree Doesn't particularly matter. The poor ISD is just plain wrong anyway.
The NDA covers stuff that happens in the beta and explicitly doesn't cover stuff that is public. What the OP describes is public and not in the beta.
The NDA has exactly zero relevance to what he wrote. This is why the only conclusion can be that the ISD hasn't seen the NDA (or Dust) and hasn't seen (or been told about) the public Home presence CCP has set up, and that the same holds true for whomever reported the thread.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Hermia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:17:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Hermia wrote:Adding another voice to WIS support.
I would have been happier if CCP just used Unreal Engine 4 and get content out quickly,
Whats sad is they mimicked EvE Avatars really well on the PSN home room. They may not be all flowy with fabric spreading and free moving hair meshes. Yet they looked like EvE avatars.
Yeah that's what bothers me,
WiS iteration #1 should have used off-the-shelf graphics it would have been good enough. They probably realise this now after the fallout of world of darkness, cant change the past, just annoying that it affects the future. Now they've gone down this "CARBON" route they have follow through, just means its all so far away.
My two Chars are currently out of hibernation, but ill probably go back and wait another couple of years. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
783
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:19:00 -
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I've already put the content that was removed back into the OP. in the form of a public CCP quote. so lets see them take it down now. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
734
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:26:00 -
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Quote:Next, starting this week as a part of SonyGÇÖs Virtual E3 experience, DUST 514 will be fully integrated into PlayStation Home. Our DUST 514 Home Space is a great way for you to get up close and personal with the New Eden universe, and weGÇÖre really proud of how itGÇÖs turned out. Its a War Barge cantina in the EVE Universe, you can learn about the history of New Eden, hang out, earn awesome stuff like companions and armor for Home, play multiplayer Slay GÇô the incredible strategic board game GÇô and much more. In addition, weGÇÖre very excited to let you know that we are making available a wave of 10,000 GÇ£All AccessGÇ¥ Closed Beta invites that visitors to the DUST 514 Home Space can earn by completing all the activities inside, with access to all the DUST 514 Beta events over the summer. So hurry and get yours before theyGÇÖre gone! That said, the DUST 514 Space will remain live, and new content will be added, so Home users can definitely look forward to additional Beta keys to be distributed through the DUST 514 Home Space in the future.
God damnit? Seriously, they get this cool ****? All we got was a freaking closet to walk around in? |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
153
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:32:00 -
[75] - Quote
I want WiS, so i can go to the station WC and take a dump. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
47
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:36:00 -
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I think the real fact determining that PS people get WiS and PC people don't is that all of PS people have a machine capable of running that. How many on PC would enjoy that, even if they made it? Not me, my graphic card would explode in a fireball after 20 seconds of WiS. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
784
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Posted - 2012.06.07 01:36:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Quote:Next, starting this week as a part of SonyGÇÖs Virtual E3 experience, DUST 514 will be fully integrated into PlayStation Home. Our DUST 514 Home Space is a great way for you to get up close and personal with the New Eden universe, and weGÇÖre really proud of how itGÇÖs turned out. Its a War Barge cantina in the EVE Universe, you can learn about the history of New Eden, hang out, earn awesome stuff like companions and armor for Home, play multiplayer Slay GÇô the incredible strategic board game GÇô and much more. In addition, weGÇÖre very excited to let you know that we are making available a wave of 10,000 GÇ£All AccessGÇ¥ Closed Beta invites that visitors to the DUST 514 Home Space can earn by completing all the activities inside, with access to all the DUST 514 Beta events over the summer. So hurry and get yours before theyGÇÖre gone! That said, the DUST 514 Space will remain live, and new content will be added, so Home users can definitely look forward to additional Beta keys to be distributed through the DUST 514 Home Space in the future. God damnit? Seriously, they get this cool ****? All we got was a freaking closet to walk around in? right?
come on CCP, say something ;_; Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
RAP ACTION HERO
53
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:13:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore. Here's your problem OP. People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE. CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game. Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is. At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game. I want to own space outside of CQ. I want to run a bar. I want to run a night club. I want to run a gambling hall. I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information. I want to sell sell drugs. I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp. I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face. I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare. I want to smuggle things on the station. I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot. I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself. I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships. I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS. Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.
yes i agree with that ideally but wis must be meaningful not 5 dudes in a room emoting each other but what is meaning wis? that's for team avatar/CCP to figure out, which is in progress, it may be years but it is just going to take as long as it takes. it must be done right.
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Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:22:00 -
[79] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:Quote:Next, starting this week as a part of SonyGÇÖs Virtual E3 experience, DUST 514 will be fully integrated into PlayStation Home. Our DUST 514 Home Space is a great way for you to get up close and personal with the New Eden universe, and weGÇÖre really proud of how itGÇÖs turned out. Its a War Barge cantina in the EVE Universe, you can learn about the history of New Eden, hang out, earn awesome stuff like companions and armor for Home, play multiplayer Slay GÇô the incredible strategic board game GÇô and much more. In addition, weGÇÖre very excited to let you know that we are making available a wave of 10,000 GÇ£All AccessGÇ¥ Closed Beta invites that visitors to the DUST 514 Home Space can earn by completing all the activities inside, with access to all the DUST 514 Beta events over the summer. So hurry and get yours before theyGÇÖre gone! That said, the DUST 514 Space will remain live, and new content will be added, so Home users can definitely look forward to additional Beta keys to be distributed through the DUST 514 Home Space in the future.
Haven't been into Home for ages. Tried out my Rockstar t-shirt that I got in Red Dead Redemption.
But this isn't really part of Dust. It's going to be Home avatars, not Dust avatars. So I can hang out in a EVE themed bar in my Rockstar t-shirt and beanie and interact with lot of other non-DUST avatars?
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0ccupy 4-4
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:31:00 -
[80] - Quote
I'd prefer if they launched it as a broken mess in it's entirety, at least then they would feel some compunction to do something. Something of substance with WiS, not infinite inventory iterations, what's next honestly? Redoing jet can mechanics for the winter expansion? It feels like they're content to let EVE stagnate as the reiterate the most inconsequential parts of it. |
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
736
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:39:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore. Here's your problem OP. People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE. CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game. Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is. At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game. I want to own space outside of CQ. I want to run a bar. I want to run a night club. I want to run a gambling hall. I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information. I want to sell sell drugs. I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp. I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face. I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare. I want to smuggle things on the station. I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot. I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself. I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships. I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS. Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world. yes i agree with that ideally but wis must be meaningful not 5 dudes in a room emoting each other but what is meaning wis? that's for team avatar/CCP to figure out, which is in progress, it may be years but it is just going to take as long as it takes. it must be done right.
So, they announced WiS 7 years ago. Whole MMO's have been made in less time and CCP cannot implement WiS in that time? Just how many years does something like this take? It's not like they are breaking new ground here and nobody is asking for bloody massive cities. We're talking a few shops, offices, a lounge or bar and what not.
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
785
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:57:00 -
[82] - Quote
0ccupy 4-4 wrote:I'd prefer if they launched it as a broken mess in it's entirety, at least then they would feel some compunction to do something. Something of substance with WiS, not infinite inventory iterations, what's next honestly? Redoing jet can mechanics for the winter expansion? It feels like they're content to let EVE stagnate as the reiterate the most inconsequential parts of it.
i disagree, but at the same time feel like they should releasing something. Since the work must be done. There should be a way to keep up working on core eve and abandoned features, while giving us what they finished. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Kunming
CyberShield Inc ROMANIAN-LEGION
29
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Posted - 2012.06.07 08:59:00 -
[83] - Quote
Erinn Sylvanus wrote:I figure it's a plan to make even being docked in a station unsafe.
I thoroughly expect to be walking in my quarters when some Dust 514 troopers bust down the locked door and murder me.
Gotta stront up that door
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:38:00 -
[84] - Quote
It's pretty simple. Avatar minigames and minor avatar gameplay elements didn't make sense in the EVE Universe but fit in perfectly with DUST 514, which is all about avatar gameplay so they moved everything to DUST 514. Then some really, really bad CCP member came up with Carbon and started developing it while knowing it could never be used in a large scale MMORPG like EVE. Carbon turned into Incarna which was universally hated and subscriptions took a massive dive until CCP started to refocus on non-WIS gameplay.
Those links where never coded into EVE, they were always pegged for DUST 514. What you see in your Captain's Quarters is what you get, if CCP had more believe me they'd sell it in the NEX store. Between EVE and DUST 514 and CCP cutting a lot of staff, I'd say we are looking at a good 2 years before CCP even thinks of working on WIS again.
I find these Incarna threads rather interesting. CCP has stated their position on the matter numerous times and have answered all questions about it. It's like a kid constantly asking "Are we there yet". No we're not there yet. We turned the car around. |
Hermia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.06.07 11:19:00 -
[85] - Quote
Vaal Erit wrote:It's pretty simple. Avatar minigames and minor avatar gameplay elements didn't make sense in the EVE Universe but fit in perfectly with DUST 514, which is all about avatar gameplay so they moved everything to DUST 514. Then some really, really bad CCP member came up with Carbon and started developing it while knowing it could never be used in a large scale MMORPG like EVE. Carbon turned into Incarna which was universally hated and subscriptions took a massive dive until CCP started to refocus on non-WIS gameplay.
You must doubt this statement a little, surely?
Eve is an umbrella supporting a range of different subcultures and play styles. In fact, its CCP's stated intention to build the best sci-fi experience in a virtual world. Completing the Eve experience with Avatar environments will need to happen to attract the ever increasing expectations of gamers.
I dont care so much for the high end supercapital battles and the rest of it, but im very happy that it exists. I like to know that the game is bigger than my little corner, makes it feel more relevant and alive. Its that suspension of disbelief people seek and crave more.
One day ill build my little house in space and one day some smuck will blow it up. My loss will be crushing and their elation of such effort incalculable. So frankly i think the sandcastle bashing crowd will love this |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
788
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:06:00 -
[86] - Quote
Vaal Erit wrote:Carbon turned into Incarna which was universally hated and subscriptions took a massive dive until CCP started to refocus on non-WIS gameplay.
but that's not what happened. People hating getting a single room after waiting so long, and they hated the NeX store. The greed of ccps newsletter, "greed is good" combined with only having a single room, and only minmatar, with badighting, and ****** animations.
People still want WiS, but a small number of players have been acting like this was WiS's fault. To try to steer eve away from having walking avatars. Well sorry buddy but the majority of gamers still want WiS, and the anger at CCPs greed for making WiS some kind of cash grab badly lit single room led to a lot of rage.
If WiS had be released, and it wasn't ****, it would not of had people protesting. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1404
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:22:00 -
[87] - Quote
Forum moderation discussions are not allowed on our forums. If you have questions regarding forum moderation, please file a petition to the EVE Community team. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
242
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Posted - 2012.06.07 23:25:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote: If WiS had be released, and it wasn't ****, it would not of had people protesting.
Another thing I hated about the way WiS was introduced in Incarna was that it was default - and that did go against the lore.
The lore was that getting out of the pod does happen but it's relatively rare because unpleasant and potentially dangerous. Pod pilots stay in their pods as default. But they can and do decant for good enough reasons.
So Incarna hits and what happens? Instead of the "private" de-podding experience shown in the earlier videos being optional from Hangar view, you have the pod on a landing as if it were just a shuttlecraft or something, and that by default.
Not only that, but of course it was just a single racial "cabin" and there was no multiplayer aspect to it at all. What a joke!
It was horribly jarring and set me against the Incarna update as a whole (since it was obviously a rush job and part and parcel of CCP's misallocation of priorities to bloody vampires).
However, I do support WiS, and think it should be in the game, and am looking forward to CCP revisiting it next year. But there's still quite a way to go before FiS is brought up to scratch, and ultimately it is more important, since it is the existing game. |
Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
56
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Posted - 2012.06.07 23:54:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Khoda Khan wrote:DUST is not EVE.
Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore.
Walking in Stations has nothing to do with EVE.
Walking in Stations is a complete waste of time.
If you want to "roleplay" in EVE, then actually play your "role" as a pod pilot. If you were an immortal being would you actually do something silly that removed your immortal status, even temporarily? Like, say, leaving your pod? You think you're going to hang out with your immortal buddies and play table top games? In a universe where violence is quick and sudden (and quite permanent for a pod pilot outside his pod... no waking up in the clone vat... dead is DEAD). You are a god, act like one instead of a commoner who wants to play tabletop games in his CQ with buddies.
Also, just for clarification... Walking in Stations is contrary to EVE lore. Here's your problem OP. People who are afraid of change and seem to think that thier vision of EVE is the correct vision of EVE. CCP had a vision of EVE that went beyond just FiS and for some reason, instead of HTFU they backed off to people who demanded that EVE never evolve beyond anything other then just FiS, even though it would greatly benefit the game. Every time I see people talking about sandboxes I see the same thing. EVE is the best sandbox on the market, but I dont' want to be a spaceship. Instead it feels like people like the guy I quoted have won out and convinced CCP that the magority of players don't want EVE to be anything more then it already is. At the same time I don't want what you asked for either. I want WiS, not some cut down, feature lite ability to wallk around and not do anything but play a single game. I want to own space outside of CQ. I want to run a bar. I want to run a night club. I want to run a gambling hall. I want to hack the station of another corp for valuable information. I want to sell sell drugs. I want to shoot another player in the back while he's watching an exotic dancer becaue I'm at war with his corp. I want to get missions from shady individuals or pirate corp contacts on the station, face to face. I want to board a Gallente station and set of a bomb in faction warfare. I want to smuggle things on the station. I want to be able to live my entire life on a station, not as a pod pilot. I want to pay another player to shuttle me to another station because I'm not a pod pilot and can't actually fly a ship myself. I want to start a taxi service flying players between stations because they're not a pod pilot and can't fly any ships. I want EVE to evolve beyond FiS and become the sandbox MMO that no other company can ever compare to. I want to fire up the launcher and see 100k players online at once, and that's not likely to happen if EVE never evolves beyond FiS. Stick to YOUR vision CCP, and not the vision of a group of people who can't see outside of the box, let alone beyond their own narrow little world.
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Syndrea Caedrion
State War Academy Caldari State
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Trust me, it sucks there too. I do not walk around, I access everything from where I stand because it is so mind-numbingly draining. People complain about mining, but seriously, mining is a fast-paced activity compared to that stuff. |
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