No. You miss the point. But make them easier is what CCP is planning to do by removing e-war. The most popular fix presented by players is to enforce killing all NPCs to capture a plex. Thats not making PVE easier for farmer alts now is it?

CCP should use modified sleeper / incursion AI for most if not all PVE conflicts. Redoing all the missions might take some time, but it is time to do it.

Plexes aren't meant to be a PVE activity..

I've mentioned several times in other posts, that I think all NPC's should have to be killed to complete a plex

Requiring all the rats to be killed is helpful and I support it. But its not the begin all and end all. We need to make plexxing the pvp mechanic that decides sov where as missions are the pve activity.

1) The timer countdown idea (the timer starts counting back down to zero automatically when you get chased out of a plex)

2) a notification when complexes are attacked

Just be careful what you wish for. This is what the Incursion folks wanted to help balance out the sites: NMC was never run because you basically had to kill every NPC, OTA was blitzed because you could kill just four NPCs to complete the site. So CCP rebalanced it to require all ships to be killed, then added more dangerous ships into the mix. OTA went from "baby can do it" to "deadly". The word "subtle" does not appear in the CCP vocabulary. The only "adjustment" tool they have is a 500lb hammer.



If you want PvP, just stick around the site long enough to get that time down due to your presence. This opens the situation up to games of defenders spreading out their forces to reclaim sites, with strike teams from the attackers claiming sites and heading out to attack the small forces left behind to reclaim sites.



That's a worthwhile effort.

But this thread is filled with people complaining how dumb the AI is. Whether or not they are intended to be PVE areas, the fact is this thread exists because of dumb AI/Mechanics.

But this thread is filled with people complaining how dumb the AI is. Whether or not they are intended to be PVE areas, the fact is this thread exists because of dumb AI/Mechanics.

Edit: Also this:

I have a feeling CCP is removing the NPC EW for all and allowing the speed tanking to take place for a while to see if the Amarr / Minmatar situation balances out on it's own.

Yet doesn't turn it into sleeper/incursion AI that requires full bore carebear PVE ship fits.

CCP doesnt care about who wins and loses, nor are they specifically changing anything at the moment just to favor one side or another, even if they're the underdog.

The E-war change is happening for one reason and one reason alone - many in the community have rightfully complained that the NPC E-war is a PvP deterrent, and interferes with PvP engagements that would be had if not for the NPC interference. The CSM took this feedback to the summit, we asked them to look into what it took to remove E-War, they did, and now its being implemented.

It's not like mission farming - Many FW missions are easier as there can be only 1 target to kill to complete the mission if the player knows which missions to pick and which to ignore.
Very easy to get in and out without being attacked.
Add to that 90% of the missions were done in Stealth Bombers so they could just cloak up and waste your time.
FW Missions did not provide PvP to those looking for it.


With a plex you know they are stuck there for a minimum of 10min.
This gives you the chance to get a fleet up and deny them the plexes almost everywhere they go - set up on the escape routes and catch them.
If they change system - follow and repeat.
The chances of pew have increased lots since the patch. I used to goto low sec and plex and not see anyone.
Now there is lots of fun and games while plexing.