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Esiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.26 21:48:00 -
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Someone in the Fiction forums was asking about Minmatar naming conventions, which reminded me of some work I had done a year or 2 ago. Back then I had done some research and come up with a list of the ship names and the reason they why named what they where. I tried to search it out but couldn't find it. So I dug up my old notes and decided to post it on my Eve fan site.
The reason I am bringing this up here is I still have some names that I am unsure about or not satisfied with and would like to have input on them.
atron - unsure about definition velator - unsure about definition ferox - not satisfied with definition fitting into theme maller - unsure about definition prorator - not satisfied with definition fitting into theme
Feel free to look over the list I have made and disagree. I would love to see if people feel they have better definitions. (I would like CCP to someday tell us why they named things what they did but they have been very tight lipped about naming conventions.) The full list can be found at http://fiction.topcities.com under the Ship Names Banner.
Quote: Racial Themes
Gallente = Classic ancient culture (Roman, Greek, Eastern) Caldari = mostly birds (real and mythological) with a spattering of other animals thrown in. Amarr = religious terms Minmatar = most spread of the groups using several different catagories - including severe weather system names, carnivorous animals, sword names and Norse mythology
PS For Augoror I finally found a definition that I think fits.
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:05:00 -
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The caldari drake could also refer to the male duck, which would be in keeping with the bird theme that is used for their ship names, but seeing as other ships bear the names of mythical creatures it works either way really.
Interesting list, I think the Gallente ships do have a few of the more obscure names. Seeing a few that weren't familiar does explain a few things. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Esiel Minmatar = carnivorous animals
Minmatar seem to have a fixation on Cats specifically, all the animal names are felines except for the Wolf.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Esiel Minmatar = carnivorous animals
Minmatar seem to have a fixation on Cats specifically, all the animal names are felines except for the Wolf.
Sleipnir was a Horse.
I love being picky. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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AdmiralJohn
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:18:00 -
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See, the Gallente really are the most cultured.
Horrible at FW, but cultured.
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Metal Energy
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Esiel Minmatar = carnivorous animals
Minmatar seem to have a fixation on Cats specifically, all the animal names are felines except for the Wolf.
Sleipnir was a Horse.
I love being picky.
Minmatar also use Nordic names aswel storms. Not to mention words of violence EG. Ragnarok, stabber, Typhoon, Maelstrom
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:20:00 -
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Sleipnir was a specific horse though, from all that wacky Norse mythology. He had 8 legs, so we can safely say they aren't talking about the horses we know.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 26/09/2009 22:31:20
Originally by: Professor Tarantula Sleipnir was a specific horse though, from all that wacky Norse mythology. He had 8 legs, so we can safely say they aren't talking about the horses we know.
Well if some people would get out more and meet other species maybe this wouldn't be so. I know many an 8 legged horse and they are perfectly nice creatures. And contrary to popular belief they are not twice as efficient at trampling a person to death. They are 50% more efficient at it. But they do it a lot more often so I guess it balances out. But still, the stories spread about them being soulless killing machines is wrong. They are not machines at all.
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula Sleipnir was a specific horse though, from all that wacky Norse mythology. He had 8 legs, so we can safely say they aren't talking about the horses we know.
Chernobyl and GM crops have a lot to answer for ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:44:00 -
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Wow, i just discovered that Loki is actually the mother of Sleipnir, and the father of the Wolf Fenrir, somehow.
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Metal Energy
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:49:00 -
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Well that explains everything then
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Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2009.09.26 23:01:00 -
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Quote: Dreadnoughts
naglfar - Norse mythological ship made entirely from the fingernails and toenails of the dead
And its Vertical
Quote: [20:25:09] wtfepixz > did someone just shoot me?
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Gieron
Middleton and Mercer LLP
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Posted - 2009.09.26 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula Well if some people would get out more and meet other species maybe this wouldn't be so. I know many an 8 legged horse and they are perfectly nice creatures. And contrary to popular belief they are not twice as efficient at trampling a person to death. They are 50% more efficient at it. But they do it a lot more often so I guess it balances out. But still, the stories spread about them being soulless killing machines is wrong. They are not machines at all.
They also have around 150 forms of gaits, depending on how you count them.
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thoraxeb
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.27 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralJohn See, the Gallente really are the most cultured.
Horrible at FW, but cultured.
*Sips tea*
What is all this commotion about?
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Zeerover
DeadSpace Exploration and Investigations
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Posted - 2009.09.27 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula Wow, i just discovered that Loki is actually the mother of Sleipnir, and the father of the Wolf Fenrir, somehow.
Yeah the Fenrir name was really wasted on a Freighter. The Dev who was naming it should keep away from the Norse names until he/she understands what they are.
Fenrir would have been a perfect name for the Naglfar. Fenrir is afterall the killer of Odin, and it's hard to see a freighter doing that. The Naglfar would in turn, have been a fine name for the root-gawning Nidhoggur. The Nidhoggur name should then either be scrapped, or take the place of the Stabber :D
Also the Battleship lineup is missing an Norse name. Tyr would have been good as a substitute for any of them.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.27 13:37:00 -
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What i find best is the Charon (Caldari) is the son of Nyx and Erebus. Charon was also the one who ferried the dead to Hades. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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LuCiD
Amarr CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.27 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula Wow, i just discovered that Loki is actually the mother of Sleipnir, and the father of the Wolf Fenrir, somehow.
Just because:
Loki had the ability to change shape into anything he liked. He could be the male or female version as he pleased. In the case of Sleipnir, Loki was acting as a female horse in order to disrupt the building of the wall around Asgard. A male horse was being used for that and they had a little party in the woods. The result, a horse with 8 legs. Fenrir is another story that I haven't really had a proper explanation for. Loki and Angerboda (I think it was her, not sure right now) had 3 children: Hel, ruler of the underworld, the Midgard's Worm and Fenrir. A female "human", a male snake and a male wolf. You try and figure out how they were born, I won't
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Esiel
Renegade Serenity
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Posted - 2009.09.27 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Esiel Minmatar = carnivorous animals
Minmatar seem to have a fixation on Cats specifically, all the animal names are felines except for the Wolf.
Actually they have several canine names - hound, wolf, and hyena I guess I could narrow it down to canine and feline names.
Also I suppose I could add violent actions as well as nomadic names to the minmatar naming, I think I have an idea why they have some many different varriations for the minmatar. They (meaning CCP) want to have minmatar showing up as splintered or fractured. They haven't blended their cultures like the other empires have.
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I am still looking for something anything dealing with these ship names. Any ideas? atron - unsure about definition velator - unsure about definition ferox - not satisfied with definition fitting into theme maller - unsure about definition prorator - not satisfied with definition fitting into theme
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.27 19:46:00 -
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minmatar are mostly norse. Which, is a great read <3 norse mythology. --------------------------
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Ryhss
Caldari Sarum A Fortiori Sanctimony of Bellum
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Posted - 2009.09.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Serge Bastana The caldari drake could also refer to the male duck, which would be in keeping with the bird theme that is used for their ship names, but seeing as other ships bear the names of mythical creatures it works either way really.
Interesting list, I think the Gallente ships do have a few of the more obscure names. Seeing a few that weren't familiar does explain a few things.
A Drake is also a mythican bird of prey or winged serpent. This waiting 5 minutes crap needs to stop, NOW.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.27 19:53:00 -
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Ferox = "fierce" ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Ryhss
Caldari Sarum A Fortiori Sanctimony of Bellum
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Posted - 2009.09.27 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralJohn See, the Gallente really are the most cultured.
Horrible at FW, but cultured.
But the damn cultured frenchies smell like cigarettes and snails......
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Karasuma Akane
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.27 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Esiel
maller - unsure about definition
Amarr = religious terms
Maller is a variation on malleus, "hammer" in Latin. The religious connection is pretty obviously the Malleus Maleficarium, the famous "Hammer Against Witches" book used as the handbook for Inquisitors looking for and prosecuting witches in late medieval Europe.
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Originally by: Richard Phallus
Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas damn spies.
Damn counter intelligence officers.
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Hull Blaster
Gallente Missions Mining and Mayhem Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.27 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: thoraxeb
Originally by: AdmiralJohn See, the Gallente really are the most cultured.
Horrible at FW, but cultured.
*Sips tea*
What is all this commotion about?
I thought the Galleteans were of French origins? Not British! Lol .
Loving this thread though, interesting to see where a lot of the names originated from.
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Vyktor Abyss
Gallente The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.27 21:12:00 -
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I have a Megathron called "Poop deck avenger", does that fit in?
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.09.27 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 27/09/2009 21:16:54 If I remember correctly too.
Deimos is the son of Ares and Aphrodite. Twin brother of Phobos. Enyo also accompanied Ares into battle.
Nyx is the Mother of Charon*, Moros, Eris and Nemesis too.
*Erebus being the Father. I think someone mentioned this earlier in the thread. Atron however, I'm not entirely sure on.
Edit: Ishtar is ta goddess of fertility, love, war and sex according to wikipedia, with a cult of sacred prostitutes. Can't say this one isn't in line with Gallenteans.
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Esiel
Renegade Serenity
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Posted - 2009.09.27 21:52:00 -
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much thanks to Karasuma Akane for the Maller - it really fits in the theme well. Tippia for Velator and atron.
While not satisfied with atron or ferrox I have added multiple possibilities, however they just don't feel right to me yet. I am also happy to have found a proper reason for Sin to be in Gallente ship names.
I have updated the names and have the new deffinitions in place. (I also did some minor tweaking to other names to better define them)
The site is http://fiction.topcities.com if you don't feel like scrolling back to the top and want to see the changes.
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente TarNec New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.28 02:41:00 -
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Nyx and Erebus were brother and sister too, were't they?
BECAUSE OF FALCONDUST!
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.28 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Amitious Turkey Nyx and Erebus were brother and sister too, were't they?
Probably. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Geldar Wroontik
Gallente Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.28 06:00:00 -
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I think it's worth noting that Proteus, as well as being an early sea god, is also a shape-shifter, hence why that name was chosen for the Proteus strategic cruiser. One of the more appropriate ship names in the game imo.
Good job putting this together. I've looked up a few of these myself out of curiosity, so it's good to know I'm not the only one.
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